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At last, tennis under the lights at Wimbledon

rocketassist
04-21-2009, 03:55 PM
BBC Sport confirms the roof's lights will enable play at Wimby way past 2200. So if there's a long day of tennis and it gets to 10pm with two men one set all they can carry on.

Personally I'd love to see afternoon session and night session now (starting at around 8pm)

Clay Death
04-21-2009, 04:01 PM
BBC Sport confirms the roof's lights will enable play at Wimby way past 2200. So if there's a long day of tennis and it gets to 10pm with two men one set all they can carry on.

Personally I'd love to see afternoon session and night session now (starting at around 8pm)

best news i have ever heard from those clueless british fucksticks-- who call themselves organizers-- stuck in the bloody stone ages for centuries.

now work on a sunday start morons.

tangerine_dream
04-21-2009, 04:02 PM
It's about time the British discovered the modern miracle of lighting.

Action Jackson
04-21-2009, 04:03 PM
Welcome to slippery grass.

Beforehand
04-21-2009, 04:05 PM
I reckon they won't be playing forever into the night anyway, if it's one of those matches that just gets to a set all. I mean...yeah...the grass won't really like that, will it?

JolánGagó
04-21-2009, 04:06 PM
Talk to T.A.Edison about unintended consequences, Fed will now be able to regain his Wimby crown :rocker:

HNCS
04-21-2009, 04:07 PM
Hmm... so now it's just the french open that needs to get some common sense.

Jimnik
04-21-2009, 04:09 PM
The grass won't last more than two days if they play beyond 10pm.

Har-Tru
04-21-2009, 04:13 PM
is it gonna be only on centre court? if so, with the anti-rain roof as well, the semis and final with be played on earth.

JolánGagó
04-21-2009, 04:14 PM
The grass on centre court won't last more than two days if they play beyond 10pm.

This is obvioulsy a conspiracy by Uncle Tony and the Majorcan mafia to have two clay GS under the motto: La hierba para las vacas!

Clay Death
04-21-2009, 04:15 PM
This is obvioulsy a conspiracy by Uncle Tony and the Majorcan mafia to have two clay GS under the motto: La hierba para las vacas!

:haha::haha::haha:

big_don
04-21-2009, 04:19 PM
there's going to be a match with Tin Henman and Kim Clijsters against Steffi Graf and Andre Agassi (all other players are in tournaments) to test out the court when the roof is over.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/henman-and-agassi-to-mark-wimbledon-roof-opening-1630787.html

l_mac
04-21-2009, 04:20 PM
best news i have ever heard from those clueless british fucksticks-- who call themselves organizers-- stuck in the bloody stone ages for centuries.

now work on a sunday start morons.

A Sunday start?


Great to see people thinking intelligently here :worship: Lets have one day where they play 24 hours!

Jimnik
04-21-2009, 04:30 PM
This is obvioulsy a conspiracy by Uncle Tony and the Majorcan mafia to have two clay GS under the motto: La hierba para las vacas!
Didn't you know it's already played on green clay. They just want to make sure it's the right colour for the final. Too confusing to have to visually adapt from one GS to the next.

Horatio Caine
04-21-2009, 05:05 PM
@ ClayDeath and Tangy::lol: But couldn't agree more... ;)

@ rocketassist...would also love to see a night session, but I think that has been firmly ruled out. I guess we'll only see late-night tennis if a scheduled match(es) goes on for quite a bit longer than anticipated.

LinkMage
04-21-2009, 05:09 PM
It's about time the British discovered the modern miracle of lighting.

Too bad the French haven't yet.

decrepitude
04-21-2009, 05:44 PM
I hope they have organised late transport as well. I usually use the special buses to get back to Victoria Station.

SBruguera
04-21-2009, 05:55 PM
So Federer won´t lose another tournament because of the fading light.

Hugh Jaas
04-21-2009, 09:24 PM
best news i have ever heard from those clueless british fucksticks-- who call themselves organizers-- stuck in the bloody stone ages for centuries.

now work on a sunday start morons.

SPARTA!!!

IT TAKES 3 YEARS TO PUT A ROOF on a tennis court?Those brits are Total MUGS

GlennMirnyi
04-21-2009, 09:26 PM
Welcome to slippery grass.

x2.

Hugh Jaas
04-21-2009, 09:28 PM
x2.

GlennMirnyi x2 = FAIL

BaselineSmash
04-21-2009, 09:38 PM
Suffice to say, this is going to favour the guys who get scheduled on centre court i.e. the top seeds. Wimbledon isn't like the AO where the odd, infrequent spell of rain does very little to distort the scheduling. Sustained rainfall over SW19 is an annual event (bar outstanding years like 2006), and you can rest assured there will be some controversial events up ahead.

I can see Nadal taking out Ferrero 6-2 6-2 6-2 in R4 under cover of the roof, whilst poor Dimitrov slaves over two days to eventually prevail over Roddick 11-9 on court one. The organisers will then ensure this 'blockbuster quarter-final' takes place at about 3pm the next day, and the seventeen-year old will only be able to turn up in person, his second serves clocking an average 66 mp/h.

As a spectator, I'm relieved they've FINALLY done something to combat the weather's perennial interruptions of one of the world's most famous tennis events. But the usual issues over scheduling will resurface, only in a slightly different form, and I suspect a lot of fans are going to feel that their faves have been unfairly treated over the fortnight.

Or Levy
04-21-2009, 09:53 PM
One year too late.

Johnny Groove
04-21-2009, 10:01 PM
Hopefully no player suffers an ankle injury on the grass as the night wears on. Unless they have some anti-dew spray or something, an injury is likely.

Har-Tru
04-21-2009, 10:08 PM
Hopefully no player suffers an ankle injury on the grass as the night wears on. Unless they have some anti-dew spray or something, an injury is likely.

Wouldn't a closed roof be anti-dew? Just wondering.

MacTheKnife
04-21-2009, 10:11 PM
Wouldn't a closed roof be anti-dew? Just wondering.

One would think so, depending on when they close it. Also, uncovered courts after heavy rain are slick too, specially if the humidity stays high after the rain stops. If the sun comes out fast, it doesn't last long though.

adee-gee
04-21-2009, 11:09 PM
Bad idea, utterly pointless. As others have pointed out, the grass won't be able to handle it. Plus it'll only be on Centre Court. The whole idea of night matches is for the atmosphere, and Centre Court has the atmosphere of a funeral for most matches.

miura
04-21-2009, 11:20 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/8010511.stm

Video from the new roof.

I think the lights are a good idea. I don't think they will reschedule just because of them, but they will indeed come in handy if a match is delayed because of rain or if the schedule is messed up and they need the afternoons/nights to be able to recover.

Hugh Jaas
04-21-2009, 11:30 PM
Hopefully no player suffers an ankle injury on the grass as the night wears on. Unless they have some anti-dew spray or something, an injury is likely.

Anti- Jew spray? That means andy roddick is going to boycott a certain grass GS tournament.

miura
04-21-2009, 11:34 PM
Tim Philips said exactly what I'd expected in that interview.

MrChopin
04-21-2009, 11:50 PM
Suffice to say, this is going to favour the guys who get scheduled on centre court i.e. the top seeds. Wimbledon isn't like the AO where the odd, infrequent spell of rain does very little to distort the scheduling. Sustained rainfall over SW19 is an annual event (bar outstanding years like 2006), and you can rest assured there will be some controversial events up ahead.

I can see Nadal taking out Ferrero 6-2 6-2 6-2 in R4 under cover of the roof, whilst poor Dimitrov slaves over two days to eventually prevail over Roddick 11-9 on court one. The organisers will then ensure this 'blockbuster quarter-final' takes place at about 3pm the next day, and the seventeen-year old will only be able to turn up in person, his second serves clocking an average 66 mp/h.

As a spectator, I'm relieved they've FINALLY done something to combat the weather's perennial interruptions of one of the world's most famous tennis events. But the usual issues over scheduling will resurface, only in a slightly different form, and I suspect a lot of fans are going to feel that their faves have been unfairly treated over the fortnight.

Good point, except that Nadal is never the benefactor of inclement British (and US) weather, only and always the innocent victim. So in your scenario, it's actually Dimitrov that benefits.

l_mac
04-21-2009, 11:57 PM
Good point, except that Nadal is never the benefactor of inclement British (and US) weather, only and always the innocent victim. So in your scenario, it's actually Dimitrov that benefits.

I was just about to correct Baseline's Smash's post replacing "Nadal" with "Federer". :D :haha: :tape:

Mind you, RogiGOAT will likely be bumped to Court 1 or 2 this year.

Har-Tru
04-22-2009, 12:00 AM
talking about wimby courts, judging by that video it looks like the new court 2 is going to be pretty nice. wonder if it'll still be the legends' graveyard... I see Fed losing in straights to Taylor Dent.

MrChopin
04-22-2009, 12:12 AM
I was just about to correct Baseline's Smash's post replacing "Nadal" with "Federer". :D :haha: :tape:

Mind you, RogiGOAT will likely be bumped to Court 1 or 2 this year.

At least in that case, Roger will be able to again (tearfully) use the poor-lighting excuse.

BaselineSmash
04-22-2009, 12:15 AM
Good point, except that Nadal is never the benefactor of inclement British (and US) weather, only and always the innocent victim. So in your scenario, it's actually Dimitrov that benefits.

Not at all. This roof ensures that Nadal's Wimby hex is over and that his 2007 nightmare will never recur again. SW19 roof=smalltime player killa.

On the other side of the draw, Fed will take out Fish 6-1 3-0 ret. in R4 whilst on court one Santoro and Clement engage in the second-longest match of all time, a match lasting two days. Fed's prospective opponents, Nalbandian and Safin, then follow on court one, engaging in the third-longest match of all time, with Nalby prevailing. On the third day, Nalby turns up on centre court for the quarter-final with a Hawaiian shirt on. The tournament referee steps onto court, and pleads with Nalbandian to replace his Hawaiian shirt with a tournament-approved white sleeved polo neck. Nalby refuses, and is disqualified, departing the court to a chorus of boos.

Nadal and Fed both win.

l_mac
04-22-2009, 12:18 AM
Not at all. This roof ensures that Nadal's Wimby hex is over and that his 2007 nightmare will never recur again. SW19 roof=smalltime player killa.



You don't get it. It's not a hex, it's a conspiracy. "They" don't want Nadal winning anything. (see Wim 07 (and to a lesser extent 08- without the rain delays Fed loses in straights) RG 08, USO 08, AO 09)

luie
04-22-2009, 12:22 AM
This will surely benefit nadal by destroying the grass & making it even more of a clay court.

rocketassist
04-22-2009, 12:22 AM
People will still slip more on clay and hard courts than on night time grass.

BaselineSmash
04-22-2009, 12:28 AM
You don't get it. It's not a hex, it's a conspiracy. "They" don't want Nadal winning anything. (see Wim 07 (and to a lesser extent 08- without the rain delays Fed loses in straights) RG 08, USO 08, AO 09)

Defending champ plays one (two max) matches off centre court. The AELTC stuffed shirts are going to have to weave some intricate conspiracies to derail Rafa this time.

With Keothavong, Murray, Nadal, and Bogdanovic on the same side of the draw, there would be elbow room for some behind-the-scenes plotting. If Keothavong and Boggo can get some runs going, it could give the organisers an excuse to shortchange Nadal in the scheduling.

Long odds indeed on this scenario, I think.

nkp2
04-22-2009, 02:08 AM
Boggo! HA! Not likely.

And as for playing "late into the night" as far as I understood the article, play would be UP UNTIL 10pm, not after it. Previously play has gone on til around 8.30/9pm light permitting, but now you could play until 10pm because you would have artificial light. But they have said they won't play any longer than this, probably for the grass as people have already mentioned.

Action Jackson
04-22-2009, 04:16 AM
People will still slip more on clay and hard courts than on night time grass.

Are they going to wear screw in studs on their shoes?

FairWeatherFan
04-22-2009, 09:15 AM
Not sure if I'm a fan of this change. Nothing wrong with the current situation, they should keep the traditional playing times at Wimbledon the same.

GlennMirnyi
04-22-2009, 01:30 PM
Rafzillia will spay anyone on the sacred grass

Rafzilla? Are you in a deep coma or what?

Hopefully no player suffers an ankle injury on the grass as the night wears on. Unless they have some anti-dew spray or something, an injury is likely.

Yeah, an anti-dew spray. Considering the definition of spray is "liquid that is blown or driven through the air in the form of tiny drops", replacing a liquid with another one seems like a really brilliant idea.

What's next, Einstein?

Hugh Jaas
04-22-2009, 01:38 PM
Rafzilla? Are you in a deep coma or what?



Yeah, an anti-dew spray. Considering the definition of spray is "liquid that is blown or driven through the air in the form of tiny drops", replacing a liquid with another one seems like a really brilliant idea.

What's next, Einstein?

shut your goddam mouth.

reggie1
04-22-2009, 01:41 PM
best news i have ever heard from those clueless british fucksticks-- who call themselves organizers-- stuck in the bloody stone ages for centuries.

now work on a sunday start morons.

It's about time the British discovered the modern miracle of lighting.:haha: Oh you two are mean, we're just quaint don't you know!
It was shown on the evening news last night and the bit that made me laugh was that they are refusing to reveal how much it has all cost! I know CD that you will want to burn me at the stake for this, but I quite like the drama and disruption of the rain delays, it kind of adds to the excitement. Wimbledon won't seem the same without having to constantly check BBC2 to see if play has resumed. Yes, I'm a Dinosaur. :o

Harmless
04-22-2009, 03:47 PM
:haha: Oh you two are mean, we're just quaint don't you know!
It was shown on the evening news last night and the bit that made me laugh was that they are refusing to reveal how much it has all cost! I know CD that you will want to burn me at the stake for this, but I quite like the drama and disruption of the rain delays, it kind of adds to the excitement. Wimbledon won't seem the same without having to constantly check BBC2 to see if play has resumed. Yes, I'm a Dinosaur. :o

I'm with you, I'll miss the rain delays too. :sad: I was already lamenting them last year in July.
They added a welcome element of chaos to the tournament that I thought was inherent in making it so unique and special.
Maybe I'm a bit dinosaurish like you :lol:, but it'll lose a part of it's identity for me as well.

The Sunday afternoon that you spend waiting and pacing around, turning the TV on and off continually...I'll miss that frustration. :D

nkhera1
04-22-2009, 05:10 PM
I'm with you, I'll miss the rain delays too. :sad: I was already lamenting them last year in July.
They added a welcome element of chaos to the tournament that I thought was inherent in making it so unique and special.
Maybe I'm a bit dinosaurish like you :lol:, but it'll lose a part of it's identity for me as well.

The Sunday afternoon that you spend waiting and pacing around, turning the TV on and off continually...I'll miss that frustration. :D

If there is rain there will still be delays but you'll just be able to have one match going on. If it's a women's match you will still be able to get that same frustrated feeling. ;)

Chris Seahorse
04-22-2009, 05:27 PM
Welcome to slippery grass.

The idea of night time matches at Wimbledon is a lovely one but the practical fear of how slippery the grass who be that late in the evening is one that seriously concerns me too.

Fumus
04-22-2009, 05:29 PM
Welcome to slippery grass.

Yea, I'm confused I thought dew started to form on the grass. Will they clean it somehow or dry it?

Henry Chinaski
04-22-2009, 05:41 PM
I'm with you, I'll miss the rain delays too. :sad: I was already lamenting them last year in July.
They added a welcome element of chaos to the tournament that I thought was inherent in making it so unique and special.
Maybe I'm a bit dinosaurish like you :lol:, but it'll lose a part of it's identity for me as well.

The Sunday afternoon that you spend waiting and pacing around, turning the TV on and off continually...I'll miss that frustration. :D

weirdo.

I certainly won't miss sitting through that Borg McEnroe tiebreak for the 576th time or Sue Barker sliming over whatever male ex-pro happens to be in the studio with her at the time.

Macbrother
04-22-2009, 06:15 PM
Sports professionals of all shapes and sizes requiring any number of movement and ball coordination have been playing on night grass for some time now. Amazingly, the world didn't come to an end. It certainly wouldn't seem to be more wet than courts after a rain delay. This is a good change for scheduling and for the players.

Truly, some people will complain about anything.

rocketassist
04-22-2009, 06:31 PM
Dew is something that takes time to form on a grassy surface, it doesn't just magically appear.

At the end of the day Wimbledon's courts have been far worse, such as when the rain stops and the grass has been soaked, they still go back on not too long later, compare this grass with a night court where a few little droplets might appear after a while.

Can't see there being any injuries unless Monfils by some miracle scrapes on to the Centre Court schedule and starts sliding all over the place.

Oh and Seahorse, the rep system isn't for disagreeing, this thread is. :wavey: :retard:

alfonsojose
04-22-2009, 07:08 PM
The grass won't last more than two days if they play beyond 10pm.

Exactly. it isn't about traditions. Humidity makes grass softer and dangerous for the players.

Jōris
04-22-2009, 07:08 PM
I know CD that you will want to burn me at the stake for this, but I quite like the drama and disruption of the rain delays, it kind of adds to the excitement. Wimbledon won't seem the same without having to constantly check BBC2 to see if play has resumed. Yes, I'm a Dinosaur. :o

I'm with you, I'll miss the rain delays too. :sad: I was already lamenting them last year in July.
They added a welcome element of chaos to the tournament that I thought was inherent in making it so unique and special.
Maybe I'm a bit dinosaurish like you :lol:, but it'll lose a part of it's identity for me as well.

The Sunday afternoon that you spend waiting and pacing around, turning the TV on and off continually...I'll miss that frustration. :D

Jesus.

maki925
04-22-2009, 07:47 PM
Who cares about lights when there is a roof?:lol:


http://i43.tinypic.com/14wbpzk.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/2s8skyo.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/sxdlzl.jpg

Certinfy
04-22-2009, 08:54 PM
Would be awesome, would spend all of the 14 days at Wimbledon non-stop without coming home :)

reggie1
04-22-2009, 08:57 PM
If it's a women's match you will still be able to get that same frustrated feeling. ;)
Yes, I often feel like that watching WTA matches lately! :o

Mr. Oracle
04-22-2009, 09:09 PM
Great so now Dokovic can get shafted again with a late match followed by a super early match. How far does the conspiracy go?

Garson007
04-22-2009, 11:06 PM
Yeah, an anti-dew spray. Considering the definition of spray is "liquid that is blown or driven through the air in the form of tiny drops", replacing a liquid with another one seems like a really brilliant idea.

What's next, Einstein?
Um... actually, such stuff do exist and it does actually work. :p

miura
04-22-2009, 11:12 PM
Great so now Dokovic can get shafted again with a late match followed by a super early match. How far does the conspiracy go?
Hahahhaha you're still bitter because of the scheduling? :haha:

I can't hear no complaining when he's winning.

finishingmove
04-22-2009, 11:27 PM
they should install heaters below the grass

wally1
04-22-2009, 11:59 PM
Unless I've missed something, they've installed a fancy air conditioning system that kicks in when the roof closes to prevent dew or condensation making the grass slippery, either late into the evening or any other time.

scoobs
04-23-2009, 12:11 AM
Unless I've missed something, they've installed a fancy air conditioning system that kicks in when the roof closes to prevent dew or condensation making the grass slippery, either late into the evening or any other time.
correct.

The roof takes 10 minutes or so to close and the climate control kicks in to make the indoor atmosphere suitable to keep the grass in the best possible shape. I'm sure the climate control will counteract dew while it's on.

iSzavay.
04-23-2009, 12:20 AM
Hopefully night sessions will become scheduled too :D

scoobs
04-23-2009, 12:25 AM
Hopefully night sessions will become scheduled too :D
maybe in time but the official stance at this point is that this is still a day tournament.

Winners take all
04-23-2009, 12:43 AM
Very good, Fedchoker will no longer have such lame excuses as the light to moan about, and he wont be able to hide his tears in the rain as well haha.

"I'll never let you see
The way this broken heart is hurting me
I've got my pride
And I know how to hide
All the sorrow and pain
I'll do my crying in the rain" (Crying in the rain - The Everly Brothers)

federernadalfan
04-23-2009, 01:00 AM
:woohoo:

Sapeod
04-23-2009, 01:02 AM
shut your goddam mouth.
Rafzilla :lol: What next?

Hugh Jaas
04-23-2009, 01:03 AM
Rafzilla :lol: What next pork dork?

Clay King
King of Clay
GOAT
SPARTA

Sapeod
04-23-2009, 01:06 AM
Clay King
King of Clay
GOAT
SPARTA
Any others? Maybe the Forbidden One or He who should not be named? :lol:

BTW you like putting extra words onto the other posters quotes don't you? Pork dork? :lol:

bobbynorwich
04-23-2009, 01:17 AM
they should install heaters below the grass

lol

madlove
04-23-2009, 01:52 AM
yay! about time...