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Good luck Roger in the Olympics!!!!!

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Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 05:12 PM
For love of all that is sacred Rogi, break him and win this!!!!

Raquel
08-17-2004, 05:12 PM
Come on Roger! Please come through this.

Mrs. B
08-17-2004, 05:12 PM
damn. the Czech serves an ace for 4-5! :(

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 05:13 PM
Damn, Damn Damn

WyveN
08-17-2004, 05:13 PM
Is Roger getting a chance on Berdych's service games? Who looks more likely to break?

Mrs. B
08-17-2004, 05:13 PM
Mrs. B is Rogi just making too many errors? What is going on? Thomas must be playing very well but what is up with Rogi today?

pretty similar to yesterday. too many errors indeed. not typical of Roger to overhit on those fh's. returns on B's 1st serves are no good.

ytben
08-17-2004, 05:14 PM
Please hold now Rogi ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Raquel
08-17-2004, 05:14 PM
Come on Roger, come out and serve well.

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 05:15 PM
Why cant the Olympics get a scoreboard like Wimby.org. Their's is very informative and fast

Mrs. B
08-17-2004, 05:16 PM
5-5

yanchr
08-17-2004, 05:16 PM
Rogi, pls, Rogi...

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 05:16 PM
I'm on the edge of my seat and I'm not even watching the match. This is too much. Come on Rogi, come on!!!

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 05:17 PM
Break him. Pls Rogi break him.

lsy
08-17-2004, 05:17 PM
gosh...:help:

Please hold Rogi!!!

asotgod
08-17-2004, 05:17 PM
All thanks to God Roger was able to hold just now. This is nerve-wracking for those of us not even watching. Hope he breaks now.

Raquel
08-17-2004, 05:17 PM
Thank God he held. Come on Rogi!

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 05:19 PM
Mrs. B, you are my only life line. Thank you! Scream at Rogi through the tv for me. Tell him to BREAK HIM.

Dirk
08-17-2004, 05:21 PM
How is Haas doing?

WyveN
08-17-2004, 05:22 PM
How is Haas doing?

2-4 in second set to Andy
Haas won the first

asotgod
08-17-2004, 05:22 PM
Haas is down a break in the second, won the first.

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 05:22 PM
WTG Haas!!

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 05:23 PM
Update, pls? This is giving me an ulcer!

Mrs. B
08-17-2004, 05:24 PM
shit. Roger has 2 bp's there at 15-40. Berdych was hitting unbelievable fh dtl's. :( 6-5

it's now or never. HOPP, ROGER!!!!!

RogiFan88
08-17-2004, 05:24 PM
ROGI, talk about doing it the hard way... I can't stand this either... don't know if it's worse reading the comments or watching live... ROGI... come on!!!!!!! You have to win this match!!

Raquel
08-17-2004, 05:25 PM
Please hold Roger!! *praying!*

asotgod
08-17-2004, 05:25 PM
Actually had 4 breakpoints there but Tomas held.

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 05:26 PM
Damn Roger! Come on

Dirk
08-17-2004, 05:26 PM
Rogi could have just blew his last chance. If he loses he loses. Bad days happen.

ytben
08-17-2004, 05:27 PM
From Mrs. B's curseing I think Thomas hold

C'mon Rogi just hold your serve here pleasseeeeeeeeeeee

RogiFan88
08-17-2004, 05:28 PM
it has to go to a TB now, Rogi... take a deep breath and focus... this is far worse than Toronto...

ROGI, HOPP to it!!!! VAMOS, DAVAI, anything... GO!!!!

lsy
08-17-2004, 05:28 PM
This is too much for me to follow.

COME ON ROGI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Raquel
08-17-2004, 05:29 PM
There is no TB in Olympics. It is like Davis Cup and goes to 8-6, 9-7 etc.

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 05:29 PM
RogiFan there is no TB in final set

Mrs. B
08-17-2004, 05:30 PM
it's OVER!!!! :sad:

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 05:30 PM
Oh My God!! I'm going to cry

RogiFan88
08-17-2004, 05:31 PM
I'm too distraught to remember that... makes it even worse somehow...

HOLD and BREAK and HOLD... !!!!!!!!!!! A monumental task, but ROgi, you must do it...

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 05:31 PM
Rogi lost?

Mrs. B
08-17-2004, 05:31 PM
10 double faults.

49% on first serves

:sad: :sad:

asotgod
08-17-2004, 05:31 PM
As expected. Shameful performance from Rogi. Anyways, he better go get his acts together for the U.S Open. He's gotta wait another 4 years. Period.

ytben
08-17-2004, 05:32 PM
Rogi :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

I'm speechless.

Raquel
08-17-2004, 05:32 PM
:sad: I can't believe it :sad:

RogiFan88
08-17-2004, 05:32 PM
ROGI... is it true???

RogiFan88
08-17-2004, 05:33 PM
No... Rogi lost... I knew the pressure was too much... poor Rogi... his dream is shattered and he has to go and play his dbles now...

No point watching on the weekend the only coverage we have... unless TommyR or Gonzalez, Feli or Max can win...

What a blow...

asotgod
08-17-2004, 05:34 PM
Thanks Mrs. B. That's no excuse. He messed up. Plain and simple. No one is putting pressure on him. He is putting pressure on himself. He's gotta humble himself and just play his own game. He cannot expect way too much from himself. That's why the second set was important. You dont double-fault three times when serving to stay in a set. Pretty disgusting performance from him. He better get a coach, and get his acts together or he may expect many more people to gun for him.

Dirk
08-17-2004, 05:34 PM
Stop being so damn hard on him. So he had a bad day. He had his chances but blew it. Just happens. Rogi will have plenty of time to rest up for the Open now. I hope he just gets the hell out of Athens and gets to a bed actually big enough to rest in. Disgraceful performance but it doesn't matter. This year has already been historic and there is still many events left.

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 05:34 PM
I feel like I am dreaming. I can't believe it. I know Rogi has to feel bad. I feel like crying for him. I still Love you Rogi.

yanchr
08-17-2004, 05:35 PM
The first thing came to my mind is...my poor Rogi has to wait for another 4 years...

sol
08-17-2004, 05:35 PM
Yes.. is over 6-4 5-7 5-7 http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/sauer/angry-smiley-010.gif :sad:

lsy
08-17-2004, 05:35 PM
sigh...

Rogi must be devastated, so are we.

RogiFan88
08-17-2004, 05:36 PM
Being flagbearer has it downside... poor baby!

I think Rogi is v tired mentally... it will take him awhile to bounce back for the USO I think...

So much for Athens... now I can concentrate on work... how exciting.

Dirk
08-17-2004, 05:37 PM
Oh shut up Astogod. Rogi will learn from this loss. Shit just happens. I thought he was used to the courts but it wasn't. He played terrible and he will have to figure out why that is. He should just pull out of doubles. He will have to do all the work as usual. Its no fun for him. Just go home and rest up.

Mrs. B
08-17-2004, 05:37 PM
Mrs. B, you are my only life line. Thank you! Scream at Rogi through the tv for me. Tell him to BREAK HIM.

lol. believe me i've been screaming like mad, esp. on his unforced errors!

poor Roger. he just wasn't in the zone today (nor yesterday), and Berdych played fearless esp. on the last 2 sets even if he made 12 ue's.

RogiFan88
08-17-2004, 05:37 PM
Rogi for sure is devastated... how can he play his dbles now? Yves will have to give him a pep talk... ouahh!!!!!

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 05:38 PM
The good news is he is still in it for doubles!!! Go Rogi in doubles!!

Dirk
08-17-2004, 05:39 PM
Oh please Rogi is no victim. Yes its tragic but its a tennis event. He should have won this match and didn't. That is for him to figure out. There is always 4 years from now. As long as he stays healthy he could be the favorite there too. Just one of those days. I do think this will take him a long time to recover. I just hope he can play well at the Open.

Raquel
08-17-2004, 05:41 PM
:sad::sad: Having watched his match yesterday, I got a feeling he just looked really tired. It's been a big year mentally and he has played so much in the last few months.

Roger, rest and come back strong in New York :hug:

ytben
08-17-2004, 05:41 PM
Yeah Rogi must be so devastated :sad: :sad: :sad: I don't think he will be able to perform well in double, still too soon to recover emotionally from this loss.

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 05:41 PM
Oh please Rogi is no victim. Yes its tragic but its a tennis event... I do think this will take him a long time to recover. I just hope he can play well at the Open.
You are right! He is no victim.

yanchr
08-17-2004, 05:42 PM
I'm wondering how he can handle the double now...:sad:

This absolutely will be in his mind for quite some time. God knows if he can recover fully before the USO starts...

RogiFan88
08-17-2004, 05:43 PM
You know, Rogi has had such an incredible yr so far, is it any wonder he lost today? He's been winning and winning, he's bound to start slowing down... you can't go on forever and ROgi is NOT a machine, he's a human being w emotions. Such a shame it had to happen NOW at this time but that's what happens sometimes... trying to rationalize here beyond my emotions for Rogi.

Well, let's hope that 3 worthy players end up on the podium now that MY 3 faves are out... ouahh....

Mrs. B
08-17-2004, 05:43 PM
this was part of his major goal this year, he's accomplished the No. 1 and defended Wimby, this was supposed to be his hattrick. oh well, all good things come to an end. Roger is human, the gods on Mt. Olympus just wanted to remind us, folks! ;)

Lley
08-17-2004, 05:45 PM
Oh my God....I just can't believe that.....Roger lost......I cried....and still cry :(

asotgod
08-17-2004, 05:46 PM
Dirk,

I am not being hard on him. Look, I like Roger as much as anyone here. But, I think he is becoming arrogant and too full of himself. Secondly, he is the one putting pressure on himself. He needs to play within himself and what he can play, not what he cannot play. His match yesterday showed a lack of a game plan but a move to try to overpower his opponent. He needs to humble himself, play his own and stop trying to do things he is not fully sharp on. He knows he doesn't have an overpowering serve. So, why should he be going for too much. He doesn't need it. Unnecessary dfs and easy forehands missed all because he is going for too much. He deserves to be blamed. I blame myself for expecting him to play within himself. He is having a very ugly trend of weird wins and games, right from Toronto which he won.

He needs to be himself. He cannot please all of us. So, why the pressure? He is human, and that will remain the same. So, he should play within himself. Going for too much on returns and serves are not necessary. What made him #1 is his ability to set up points, and that must remain. Not unnecessary shanks and trying to play a power game. That's just my opinion.

mitalidas
08-17-2004, 05:46 PM
it will give him enough time to go back, recuperate and de-stress before the USO. AND, he could still medal with Yves in double. Roger wished to medal in the olympics, he did not say necessarily in singles.

lsy
08-17-2004, 05:47 PM
:hug: Rogi

It's tough for him to be up on court for his doubles for sure, but just try your best Rogi...let's not put too much pressures on yourself. There's always another 4 years :)

:hug: Rogi

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 05:47 PM
I know this is just a tennis tourny, but it truly heartbreaking. I really feel deep sorrow for him and us, his fans. Damn!

WyveN
08-17-2004, 05:47 PM
Don't be to upset for Roger, unlike 99% of athletes at the olympics he doesn't have to wait at least a year for his next major event and this almost certainly improves his USO chances.

Also he is still in the doubles, he experienced carrying the Switzerland flag and he will still be at peak in 4 years time.

Lley
08-17-2004, 05:47 PM
But that's life....but why he lost in the Olympics??????
Anyway, we love you Roge. You're No.1 ;)

Dirk
08-17-2004, 05:48 PM
Rogi just had a bad day. I do think he will be devastated by this for some time but just as long as he stops feeling sorry for himself before the open and can train for it. He just needs to rest up and relax and unwind this pressure on him. He puts too much on himself. He is very smart and will figure it out. WHY THE FUCK DID HE STAY IN THE VILLAGE ON THAT TINY FUCKING LITTLE BED???????? No wonder he will be tired. WHO THE FUCK COULD SLEEP ON THAT THING????????? :fiery:

RogiFan88
08-17-2004, 05:49 PM
Win or lose, we still support and love Rogi...

asotgod
08-17-2004, 05:49 PM
Look Dirk, with all due respect, pls dont tell me to shut up. We have our own different opinions of Roger, even if we both like him. Nevertheless, it's my opinion that he put the pressure on himself. No one did. Whatever he needs to do, he should. That's just it. I dont care that much anymore.

Mrs. B
08-17-2004, 05:52 PM
Rogi just had a bad day. I do think he will be devastated by this for some time but just as long as he stops feeling sorry for himself before the open and can train for it. He just needs to rest up and relax and unwind this pressure on him. He puts too much on himself. He is very smart and will figure it out. WHY THE FUCK DID HE STAY IN THE VILLAGE ON THAT TINY FUCKING LITTLE BED???????? No wonder he will be tired. WHO THE FUCK COULD SLEEP ON THAT THING????????? :fiery:

:lol: if we find excuses Dirk i'll put the blame on his hair. It was all over today and we know how much he loves to tuck those strands inside his bandana. Today with the wind, and not wearing hairpins, parts of it were in front of his forehead, maybe it covered his eyes? he didn't see the ball well then. :haha:

he did hit some weird shots there, like on the frame and went to outer space.

jtipson
08-17-2004, 05:53 PM
I have to agree with astogod, Roger certainly did put a lot of pressure on himself for the Olympics. Just reading his interviews gave me that feeling. He handled the situations at the AO and Wimbledon much much better.

Skyward
08-17-2004, 05:54 PM
A friend of mine is a figure skating coach. She says that flagholders rarely do well at the Olympics. They spend a lot of emotions even before competition starts and carry on expectations of the whole nation.

jtipson
08-17-2004, 05:54 PM
Win or lose, we still support and love Rogi...

Yes, of course we do :)

Pity that there's no one left bothering about in the singles competition though :(

ytben
08-17-2004, 05:56 PM
Yeah the pressure to win a medal for his country with him considered a shoe-in for a medal is just too much imo. Hopes his confidence doesn't take a big blow from this, it can affect the rest of his season.

:hug: Rogi. Hopes he will recover quickly from this one.

WyveN
08-17-2004, 05:57 PM
WHY THE FUCK DID HE STAY IN THE VILLAGE ON THAT TINY FUCKING LITTLE BED???????? No wonder he will be tired. WHO THE FUCK COULD SLEEP ON THAT THING????????? :fiery:

:haha:
Berdych probably stayed in a 5 star hotel

yanchr
08-17-2004, 05:57 PM
Can't believe it, but somehow have to accept it. Rogi, we all know you have put your full heart on this olympics, so don't feel too sorry for yourself, it's really a mixture of too many things.. maybe you are just not ready to shoulder this much pressure...it's ok..life should go on...You still have doubles, remember? Even no doubles left, there's always USO, TMS, TMC left, which is actually more important in the tennis world.

Go back to Switzerland, my boy, you have to totally forget what happend here in Athens. You know USO is coming in sight...:hug: Go rest yourself now :)

lsy
08-17-2004, 05:58 PM
oh come on guys :lol:

No need to get all work up here. Yes, he lost, he's sad, we're disappointed but he had done well all year long. I'm sure he knows how to recover from this, no need to be so harsh oh him. He knows his games and why he lost much better than anyone of us here I'm sure.

So we're blaming his haid for this loss huh, Mrs. B?

ytben
08-17-2004, 05:59 PM
Pity that there's no one left bothering about in the singles competition though :(

Same here Jtipson, all three faves of mine(Rogi Juanqui Marat) are out today. Sigh I have lost any interest in Olympics now.

WyveN
08-17-2004, 05:59 PM
Go back to Switzerland, my boy, you have to totally forget what happend here in Athens. You know USO is coming in sight...:hug: Go rest yourself now :)

Go home? No way!
There is a gold medal to be won, I still believe! Go Yves and Roger.

lsy
08-17-2004, 06:00 PM
oh so let's see, we can blame all the followings :

- tiny little bed
- bad hair
- carrying flag...

btw, what shirt was he wearing? Can we blame that also? :lol:

Mrs. B
08-17-2004, 06:00 PM
oh come on guys :lol:

No need to get all work up here. Yes, he lost, he's sad, we're disappointed but he had done well all year long. I'm sure he knows how to recover from this, no need to be so harsh oh him. He knows his games and why he lost much better than anyone of us here I'm sure.

So we're blaming his haid for this loss huh, Mrs. B?

just remember Samson, lsy, he lost his strength when his hair was cut! :lol:

why didn't he use those hairpins? he had those on yesterday. :mad:

Dirk
08-17-2004, 06:01 PM
Rogi had pressure at Wimbly and he dealt with it cold and all. Astogod I don't think Rogi's become arrogant. He knows what his abilties are. Its up to him to take away what he did wrong out there today. Maybe he changed his plan because of the court and conditions who knows but your toronto assumption is wrong because well Santoro played a very good match and yes Rogi was crap in the Thomas first set but found his game. We don't need to talk about that final. Rogi will be fine. He will get over this before the Open. He is a great champion and great champions lose as well. They all had their fair share of big losses. He will be fine in due time but I don't blame him for crying. Just as long as he learns something from it and becomes better.

Skyward
08-17-2004, 06:01 PM
:haha:
Berdych probably stayed in a 5 star hotel

The kid is just 18. I remember at that age you can have fun till 5 am and be fresh as a cucumber at 10 am. :lol:

lsy
08-17-2004, 06:02 PM
Go home? No way!
There is a gold medal to be won, I still believe! Go Yves and Roger.

:yeah: way to go WyveN!

I still belive too! Let's go Rogi!!!

yanchr
08-17-2004, 06:03 PM
Go home? No way!
There is a gold medal to be won, I still believe! Go Yves and Roger.
ahhhhhhh my bad :p
Yes, go Rogi and Yves!!

Mrs. B
08-17-2004, 06:05 PM
The kid is just 18. I remember at that age you can have fun till 5 am and be fresh as a cucumber at 10 am. :lol:

he had nothing to lose against the world's no. 1 and just went for his shots. and it worked.

btw. to those who don't know what he looks like, he's blonde, tall, and...wears a ponytail. ;)

asotgod
08-17-2004, 06:05 PM
Of course, I still support him. But, I just want him to be himself and play within himself. I know it's difficult, but that's what he was before. Why the pressure? If he starts thinking he is infallible or unbeatable, then he wont last long on top.

I am not trying to be mean, but I think Roger has being getting arrogant. Some comments he makes now, he doesn't before. That's not good at all. I try to overlook it, but the simple truth is God despises the proud. He needs to be humble and take things one at a time. Hopefully, he will be able to be what is necessary to remain on top.

ytben
08-17-2004, 06:06 PM
Yeah good luck in your double Rogi! :bounce:
A win is just what the doctor order to bounce back :)

asotgod
08-17-2004, 06:07 PM
Ok, Dirk. I wont get all worked up over one loss. Good luck to Roger.

gogo_guga
08-17-2004, 06:10 PM
I'll die if Roddick wins the Olympics!!!!!!!!!!
He sooooo does not deserve it!!!!!!!!

lsy
08-17-2004, 06:13 PM
just remember Samson, lsy, he lost his strength when his hair was cut! :lol:

why didn't he use those hairpins? he had those on yesterday. :mad:

:lol: Mirka is not there to do it for him I guess, can't really expect Yves to pin Rogi's hair.

Lley
08-17-2004, 06:13 PM
Yeah, he had a bad day. Very bad day. But while his playing I had a thought that it wasn't Roger's tennis - the tennis that we all love.....

He's tired, and he should go home and rest. But Rode must play doubles....

I remember his smiling face at the Opening, he looked so nice and happy.....and what now......

tangerine_dream
08-17-2004, 06:14 PM
Every time I think Roger has it made and has nothing to worry about, he loses. :sobbing: He wanted this medal so badly, he must be heartbroken. The pressure must really be getting to him. :sad:

Good luck medaling in doubles, Roger. :bounce:

ytben
08-17-2004, 06:14 PM
:lol: Mirka is not there to do it for him I guess, can't really expect Yves to pin Rogi's hair.

:haha: :haha: That's a very disturbing image you painted there lsy.

Dirk
08-17-2004, 06:15 PM
No if you want to that is ok Astogod. I am sad too and very sad that Rogi couldn't think through this problem. Rogi should have won this match and I hope he learns what he did wrong out there. I thought he played a pretty good match to beat Davey. He had his chances but lost it today. He errored himself to death just like he used to do. I just hope physically he can be ok for the Open. I do think he will be fine mentally going into it.

Lley
08-17-2004, 06:16 PM
I'll die if Roddick wins the Olympics!!!!!!!!!!
He sooooo does not deserve it!!!!!!!!

yeah, he doesn't deserve that. I don't like him - he wins because of his serving :(

asotgod
08-17-2004, 06:17 PM
Hopefully, Dirk. Like Tangy said, anytime I think Rogi is finally stabilizing he loses. I dont just know why. Secondly, I am not trying to be superstitious or anything, but anytime after he plays Davydenko, he has lost almost immediately or messed up later on. Dont know why either. :)

asotgod
08-17-2004, 06:18 PM
Anyone who wins deserves it guys. I am no Roddick fan, although I wanted him and Roger to meet again in the final. It's not his fault that Roger lost. He needs to face the opponent in front of him, nothing more.

Skyward
08-17-2004, 06:19 PM
:lol: Mirka is not there to do it for him I guess, can't really expect Yves to pin Rogi's hair.

Besides, Roddick said that Mirka is a better coach than we think . :lol:

lsy
08-17-2004, 06:24 PM
It's not eveytime. We had seen him going through tough patches to come through and win, IW, Toronto. Today is just not one of those days he can unfortunately. Yes he didn't manage to think through the match today, and that's bad but I'm sure he will look back and learn something from it. Not everyday can be a rosy day.

But hey, asotgod, you might be right. It must be Davydenko ;)

WyveN
08-17-2004, 06:25 PM
I wonder when the last time roger went to a tournament without Mirka was

ytben
08-17-2004, 06:28 PM
So another reason for Rogi's loss, the Davydenko jinx ;)

Dirk
08-17-2004, 06:28 PM
Roger will be just fine after a few days. I am sure he will see this match on tape at home and know exactly what he did wrong. Rogi just played like shit and that is what it took for Thomas to win. Every match I believe firmly is in Rogi's hands. Today he just didn't play like he should have to win it. He will be fine, just fine. :hug:

Dirk
08-17-2004, 06:29 PM
Hamburg 02 she was not there.

ytben
08-17-2004, 06:31 PM
Someone said that in some DC matches usually Mirka also didn't come?

asotgod
08-17-2004, 06:35 PM
Ok guys, all jokes apart. If Roger wants to stay #1 for long, he needs to learn how to fight more and be mentally stable especially in close matches. Roddick is indeed a better fighter than Roger, although Roddick has a more important weapon, his serve, to get him out of trouble. But Roddick barely loses to people he should not lose to. Roger does lose to people he should not more often than Roddick. That's not good for him if he has any plans to say #1. He must learn to intimidate from the get go and play within himself. No unnecessary freebies. No need to be overfanciful on shots. I am really serious. Yeah, tennis is good for entertainment, but winning is much better and that he must learn. That's what worries me most. Like when he lost to Hrbaty, I know he was tired but he could have won the match if he had good fighting abilities. But, he wilted. Roddick most likely would have fought through that, and that's his major rival now. For him to retain #1 for more than this year, he needs to play the big points better against lesser opponents so they dont build unnecessary confidence. He needs to make lesser opponents work harder especially when they are facing breakpoints. What made Roger #1 was his ability to set up points, not the power game. Wimbledon was really the last time I saw him play with great point constructions. That's doesn't make me happy at all.

Dirk
08-17-2004, 06:41 PM
OH NOW GO FUCK YOURSELF ASOTOGOD. :fiery: Rogi played with great point construction yesterday and in Toronto. He played a bad match today and lost. If you are so damn sad about this loss then please kill yourself now so I don't have to see you here anymore. You are the kind of shit that wrote Rogi off after his terrible summer of 02. Here today gone tomorrow. You are almost as bad as Tangy.

gogo_guga
08-17-2004, 06:45 PM
Ok guys, all jokes apart. If Roger wants to stay #1 for long, he needs to learn how to fight more and be mentally stable especially in close matches. Roddick is indeed a better fighter than Roger, although Roddick has a more important weapon, his serve, to get him out of trouble. But Roddick barely loses to people he should not lose to. Roger does lose to people he should not more often than Roddick. That's not good for him if he has any plans to say #1. He must learn to intimidate from the get go and play within himself. No unnecessary freebies. No need to be overfanciful on shots. I am really serious. Yeah, tennis is good for entertainment, but winning is much better and that he must learn. That's what worries me most. Like when he lost to Hrbaty, I know he was tired but he could have won the match if he had good fighting abilities. But, he wilted. Roddick most likely would have fought through that, and that's his major rival now. For him to retain #1 for more than this year, he needs to play the big points better against lesser opponents so they dont build unnecessary confidence. He needs to make lesser opponents work harder especially when they are facing breakpoints. What made Roger #1 was his ability to set up points, not the power game. Wimbledon was really the last time I saw him play with great point constructions. That's doesn't make me happy at all.

SHUT UP!!!!!! SO MUCH CRAP!!!!!!
Can someone show me the rivalry???? This rivalry everyone talks about is soooo theoretic. Roger is totally dominating Andy, I mean, just look at their head-to-head record: 7-1!!!!!
The last thing I need right now is people preaching!!!!! :mad:

Dirk
08-17-2004, 06:49 PM
Guga I read your other post. I can't believe you think that one loss takes away Rogi's aura. Unbelievable. Yep when Pete and Andre and all the other greats took unexpected losses, their careers turned on a dim and dead. :rolleyes:

WyveN
08-17-2004, 06:54 PM
Relax people. Both with the overreactions and the overreactions to the overreactions. :lol:

Roger has had far tougher losses then this and he will be fine.

Skyward
08-17-2004, 06:54 PM
Even if his aura is shaken a bit at the moment, it 'll be restored quickly if he starts to play like we know he can.

asotgod
08-17-2004, 06:57 PM
Look gogo-guga and Dirk, you people seem to have no sense of decency or else, you wont be using the words you have used against me so far. However, I am not inclined to take that anymore from you. Every fan has an opinion and the opinions should be giving politely, not rudely as both of you are. Maybe you tell your siblings and friends to shut up or what a view, but please dont use that against me again. I dont need to take that from you.

For your information, I am not writing him off, I am just saying the things that bother me, and I believe i have a right to say that. But if discussions cannot be done meaningfully, there is no need listening to what you guys have to say or coming on this forum as you guys then would be no better than the "Rodducks" whom you claim to be whatever. So, for the last time, pls respect yourselves.

RogiFan88
08-17-2004, 06:59 PM
No winning gold for SUI was a BIG deal for Rogi... we're all emotional now... give us a few days to calm down and become rational once again [well, for some of us anyway!!].

tangerine_dream
08-17-2004, 07:03 PM
And WyverN complains that some of the "Rodducks" can't handle criticism of their faves? :rolleyes:

Dirk and gogo (I thought you were banned?), you guys are pathetic. asot didn't say anything to deserve such nasty language. He was expressing his concerns. Roger didn't lose his "aura", he lost a match. Big deal. Only the 6th one in the entire year! Nobody else can claim that. He's allowed to lose once in a while without hypersensitive twits like you guys freaking out about it.

He's still in the doubles match. Chill.

Skyward
08-17-2004, 07:08 PM
I only panic when my favorite players have injures.

asotgod
08-17-2004, 07:11 PM
Thanks Tangy. They need to learn how to communicate without using those offensive languages on me. I still believe in Roger. He's had a good year. I am just worried about his long-term plans to stay as #1. Simple.

mitalidas
08-17-2004, 07:13 PM
But Roddick barely loses to people he should not lose to. Roger does lose to people he should not more often than Roddick. That's not good for him if he has any plans to say #1.

and this is evidence that roddick does not lose to people he should not lose to??
:retard:
Bjorkman (doha), rank: 3-6 4-6
Enqvist, Thomas (SWE ) rank: 51 6-7(10) 3-6 S Spadea, Vincent (USA ) rank:64 7-6(5) 3-6 4-6
Henman, Tim (GBR ) rank: 17 7-6(6) 6-7(1) 3-6
Haas, Tommy (GER ) rank:90 3-6 4-6
and the Clincher of them all:
Mutis, Olivier (FRA ) Rank: 153 6-3 3-6 7-6(5) 3-6 2-6

asotgod
08-17-2004, 07:18 PM
Look, matildas, losses on clay by Roddick dont matter to me personally. Anyone can tell that's not his surface nad it will never be. Bjorkman is a tougher nut to crack, so is Enqvist, Henman and even Haas. Roger has a bigger aura around him than Roddick does. So, the expectation is that he should not lose to these guys. In a match between Roddick and say Henman, Bjorkman, Enqvist and Haas, Roddick is most often a 60% favorite, while the matches Federer has lost to Nadal, Hrbaty, and now Tomas Berndych, he is a much bigger favorite than Roddick. That's just my point, and if you cannot see it, I cannot help you.

Skyward
08-17-2004, 07:24 PM
This is the first time this year Roger lost to a person whom is not " supposed" to lose. Henman is a top player and very dangerous indoors( was it indoors?). Costa and Guga are FO champions, it's not a shame to lose them on clay. Nadal is a talented kid, future star who could care less, whom is playing number 1 or 1001( also Roger had a flu or smth), Hrbaty is known for beating number1-s when they are on hot streaks( I think he caught Roddick too).

asotgod
08-17-2004, 07:29 PM
Look Skyward, there is no need to argue about this. Did u see me mention Henman, or Guga or Costa. Nope I didn't. They are known names. Hrbaty beat him when he was relatively new on tour. So, that's why I mentioned him.

mitalidas
08-17-2004, 07:33 PM
I don't need your help, astogod. I made a point, just like you tried to.

Your explanation for all losses of Roddick is that either the opponent is very good/tougher nut, or the surface does not suit him. That's rather convenient. Berndych wins against Federer is no different than Mutis wins against Roddick.

The people Federer lost to he generally had a losing record against, or had never played before. Being number 1, the expectation should be that Roger should lose to no one, and obviously that cannot always be the case. He will lose to some, and roddick will lose to some. And they've both lost to people well below their rankings

Since it is virtually impossible for Roger to win every time he steps on the court, these losses (whether to high-rankers or low-rankers) are offset by 8 BIG wins incl. 2 GS and 3 MS. That is not the case for rodick --his losses are not offset by such big wins at all

RogiFan88
08-17-2004, 07:33 PM
Rogi often loses to so-called nobodies [which is what the Swiss paper called Berdych today] -- he actually plays better v. the top guys.

NEVER underestimate the enemy, I always say!

RogiFan88
08-17-2004, 07:34 PM
These "nobodies" or more than nobodies are always surprising top players and gloating to boot... happens all the time... not that I like it when it happens to my faves, but there you have it -- voila!

Skyward
08-17-2004, 07:35 PM
Look Skyward, there is no need to argue about this. Did u see me mention Henman, or Guga or Costa. Nope I didn't. They are known names. Hrbaty beat him when he was relatively new on tour. So, that's why I mentioned him.

I' m not " fighting" with you, I'm just trying to say that it's really FIRST BAD loss of the year.

RonE
08-17-2004, 07:52 PM
This is a terribly bitter pill to swalow, especially as it seems Rogi reverted to his 'old' ways, and he wanted to win a medal so badly :sad:

Nevertheless, as I said in the GM forum, I think this loss is a blessing in disguise- it will enable him to get more rest, fly to NY earlier, get over the jetlag faster, get more time to get used to the conditions there.

But most importantly, I believe it will give him the INCENTIVE to win the Open. Every time he has suffered a really bad stinging loss in the last year, he has come back with a vengeance, all guns blazing. Remember DC 2003 vs. Hewitt? That loss hurt him so much, it stayed with him during his run at TMC and at AO and I believe it really gave him the drive to have that amazing streak.

Shocking numbing loss to Guga at RG? No problem, comes out guns blazing to take Halle, Wimbledon, Gstaad and Toronto. Besides, this is a Grand Slam we're talking about- those are the ones that REALLY count, with all due respect to the Olympics.

Dirk
08-17-2004, 08:00 PM
Astogod in your first stupid post you said that Rogi is not a fighter. Now you say you don't doubt him? Winning or losing a match doesn't measure how hard you fight. Rogi on paper gave that match away with his errors and double faults, but I am sure he tried his best to win the match. I will use whatever kind of langauge I want to when it comes to fans who are only here for the good times. Rogi lost early in a big event and that makes him different than no other great. They all have bad losses. I would love to see Rogi win the Open but if he ends up making the qrts I will be happy enough for him. I hate seeing him play like shit but let's be honest these athletes are allowed to have their shitty days and not take shit from us in the peanut gallery.

RonE
08-17-2004, 08:38 PM
Dirk, Guga, while I disagree with asotgod's post, there was no reason to address him/her the way you guys did. I'm just as pissed as you are with Rogi's loss however that is not an excuse to lash out at people like that for expressing an opinion. Asotgod wasn't being offensive to anyone and he/she is entitled to their opinion just like everyone else. As Rogi himself says: "It is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice" :)

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 08:41 PM
I tell you all, I feel like curling up in a ball and just :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

Mrs. B
08-17-2004, 08:55 PM
and they lost their doubles match, 2-6, 6-7 :sad:

Skyward
08-17-2004, 08:56 PM
From the article on yahoo

" Federer was uncharacteristically wild.

He made 59 unforced errors and had only 19 winners. He also had 10 double-faults and lost his serve four times, including in the final game.

``Unbelievable,'' Berdych said. ``Maybe Roger was not on his form.''

mitalidas
08-17-2004, 09:03 PM
Yesterday, Rogi said in the interview that he felt a lot of pressure during the Olympics. Ultimately, he just wanted it very very badly -- it was one of the three goals for the year, it was one he came so close to the last time, and it only surfaces once every 4 years. And, as the Nr. 1 seed obviously everyone expected him to sail through. That's all ,lets move on.

He has given all of us fans SO MUCH this year, lets just move on. ON to the USO!!!!

mitalidas
08-17-2004, 09:11 PM
GUYS, here is something to get our spirits up. PLEASE read this and have a good laugh, and lets raise our spirits!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Equestrian: Tompkins left starry eyed by Federer

18.08.2004
By KEVIN NORQUAY
Bubbly New Zealand Olympic Games equestrian rider Heelan Tompkins has been left starry eyed by world tennis No 1 Roger Federer.

Tompkins, 26, met the tennis star in a cafeteria at the athletes village after the opening ceremony, when she sat down at his table to eat a salad for "midnight munchies".

She did not realise who the Swiss flag bearer was, she said.

"I said what's your name, and he said Roger," she said.

"I go what do you do? And he said I play tennis.

"I thought, oh my God, Roger Federer. Oh my goodness I sitting next to Roger Federer, I think I'm in love!

Read it all on
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sports/olympics/olympicstorydisplay.cfm?storyID=3585043&thesection=sport&thesubsection=olympics&thesecondsubsection=

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 09:13 PM
Roger and Yves lost their doubles match. :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

ytben
08-17-2004, 09:20 PM
:lol: :lol: GREAT article mitalidas. Thanks for posting it. It did lift my spirit and put a smile on my face :D

What a sweet boy Rogi :angel: That girl has a good taste ;)

RonE
08-17-2004, 09:23 PM
Great article :yeah:

ytben
08-17-2004, 09:28 PM
Not really dissapointed about the double, not really expecting much against Paes/Bhupathi. I did pray they can pull a win, to cure the dissapointment a bit but I realize it's a very slim chance. Can't imagine what's Rogi feeling now :sad: Hopes Mirka, his family and friends can comfort him.

Rest up Rogi! Takes care and don't think too much from these loses. :hug:

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 09:29 PM
Such a cute article. Some up-lifting after this trying and sad day for us Rogi fans.

Mrs. B
08-17-2004, 09:38 PM
maybe this girl will go all the way and win her competition! thanks for posting, mitalidas.

if it makes you all feel better Roger had a sweet smile during changeover in his doubles match. i'm sure he'll be ok tomorrow. get back to Basel and chill.

life goes on...

RogiFan88
08-17-2004, 09:52 PM
What a cute interview... another Rogi fan in the making!

Mrs. B., if only SUI had won their GOLD in fencing before today, perhaps that w have taken just a little pressure off our dear Rogi... oh well.

Time to look forward... poor Rogi/Yves losing the dbles too.

Well, we can cheer for the SUI ladies now, Casanova/Schnyder won their dbles! And Patty's still in it for the sgles.

gogo_guga
08-17-2004, 10:20 PM
How come it says ADVERTISEMENT under the article???

Dirk
08-17-2004, 10:44 PM
59 Errors? :eek: Wow, well my theory about Rogi holds up. He can only lose due to erroring himself to death. The funny thing is, he nearly won playing this shitty. :rolls: Time will heal his wounds. Ron and others I am sorry for bashing Astogod but I cannot let his inaccurate assumptions go unnoticed. I don't mind causing conflict in order to spread the truth about Rogi and his career. Saying he hasn't played well or done great point construction since wimbly is just wrong and saying he isn't a fighter is wrong too. All this because he lost a match. Well get ready to get the fuck off the Federer Express then Astogod because Rogi will lose many more matches in what hopefully will be a long career.

Shy
08-17-2004, 11:15 PM
It is sad, but he is not invincible. Based on yesterday interview, I feel that he feels and put to much pressure on himself . One match doesn't mean that he won't win anymore.

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 11:28 PM
It is sad, but he is not invincible. Based on yesterday interview, I feel that he feels and put to much pressure on himself . One match doesn't mean that he won't win anymore.
You are right. Us, Fed fans, have put such great expectations on Rogi because he has shown glimpses, many times, of being the best ever. We all hope that he will dominate men's tennis...i.e. Sampras, Borg style. We've seen him only loss 6 matches this year, which is unbelievable, we've seen him place a choke hold on the number 1 position, we've seen him win two slams so far this year. All this builds our great confidence in him. And when he loses in the second round of an event that he made a goal to win and loses to, as many would as, a "nobody" it's shocking. And to boot, the event only comes around ever four years. People start to lose hope. But, us, real Fed fans, we are on the Federer Express for the long haul. And as many have said, if he does not win another match this year(which is highly doubtful), he still has had a historic year.

I Still Love You Roger!!! :kiss:

Shy
08-17-2004, 11:33 PM
Even if play shitty for the rest of his career (I hope not), he would still have a better career than 95 % of the other players.

Skyward
08-17-2004, 11:39 PM
I'm sure Andre Agassi and Lleyton Hewitt are as dissapointed as we are today. :lol: I think they would have loved to see Roger arriving at NY with some hardware in his bag, being physically and mentally ehausted.
I know that the Olympics were important for Roger, but tennis players will always be judged by amount of GS won.

Lady Natalia
08-17-2004, 11:51 PM
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I know that the Olympics were important for Roger, but tennis players will always be judged by amount of GS won.
I can't agree more.

Skyward
08-18-2004, 12:11 AM
From another article on yahoo

" ``It's a terrible day for me. I was aiming for a better result than this,'' said Federer, who carried Switzerland's flag in the opening ceremony. ``I wasn't pleased with my serve, my forehand, my backhand, my movement. That about sums it up. It's a pity.''

I've tried to keep my nerves in check the whole day. But to hear it from him is just :sad:

Shy
08-18-2004, 12:16 AM
From another article on yahoo

" ``It's a terrible day for me. I was aiming for a better result than this,'' said Federer, who carried Switzerland's flag in the opening ceremony. ``I wasn't pleased with my serve, my forehand, my backhand, my movement. That about sums it up. It's a pity.''

I've tried to keep my nerves in check the whole day. But to hear it from him is just :sad:

This is pretty much the kind of attitude that he had after the Paris TMS, and we all know what happen after.

asotgod
08-18-2004, 12:27 AM
Dirk,

Look anyone can tell that the number of errors he made resulted in his loss. That's pretty obvious. It's not like you are telling many people anything new. Any explanation can be given for why he lost. It's just an opinion, be it right or wrong. Nevertheless, it doesn't change the notion I have in mind that he is reading his presses too much and becoming overconfident and arrogant. Or else, he wont be making some comments he has been making, which he normally doesn't.

I feel bad for him that he lost and it's true every great losses once in a while, but I will not deceive myself that Roger has the mental fortitude of a Sampras, neither will I say he fights as well as Hewitt or Roddick, and yes i mean Roddick.

I am pretty sure many people disagree with my view of Roger, of late, but anyone who follows my write ups will know I am no Roger hater, neither am I trying to be a short-term Roger fan. However, it's fans like you, Dirk, that make people root against Roger. So, go learn to speak politely. Every tennis player is taught about dfs. Roger double-faulted 3 times to lose the second set. What was that all about? The pressure? What pressure, when it was not even the 3rd set? That's where the match turned, as far as I am concerned. He is the #1 player and is not expected to make such judgments when serving. But, I guess I expect too much from him, and I dont need to anymore, neither is it worth rooting for him with fans like you. Good luck!

Lady Natalia
08-18-2004, 12:30 AM
This is pretty much the kind of attitude that he had after the Paris TMS, and we all know what happen after.
Yes we do! And he will take the USO by storm.

Shy
08-18-2004, 12:39 AM
He lost one match and people act like it is the end of his career or something. :o Losing is sometimes good, it makes you work harder and learn more stuff.A lots of people forget,but in switzerland they don't have that many top athlete.He is one of their top athlete that is expected to bring a gold medal home. He is big over there. So,I do think that he has more pressure than a lots of tennis player whom country get MANY medals .Anyway, it is nice to see a young player like Thomas gets a big break like this

Skyward
08-18-2004, 12:44 AM
Dirk,

Nevertheless, it doesn't change the notion I have in mind that he is reading his presses too much and becoming overconfident and arrogant. Or else, he wont be making some comments he has been making, which he normally doesn't.



What comments? Roger's always saying that he expects a tough match, that anyone who plays well can beat him, that it's not normal to win in straight sets every time.

Skyward
08-18-2004, 12:57 AM
Dirk,

neither is it worth rooting for him with fans like you.

This is just nonsense! :rolleyes: :eek: Roger or other players haven't chosen their fans. I like Roger for his tennis and his attitude( yes!). I'll keep rooting for him even if Fumus becomes a regular on this board. :lol:

yanchr
08-18-2004, 01:00 AM
Poor Rogi lost their doubles :sad: But I think it's already good that Rogi did show up in the doubles. Now it's all over, the Athens nightmare, oh, not totally nightmare, at least he was smiling and having a good time carrying the Swiss flag. It seems like he has done this task and go :p...Next time, let's do another task for a change, winning a medal

Thanks Mrs.B:) I'm a little better to hear that Rogi did smile in the doubles. Yeah, he will recover sooner than I will expect.

Take rest Rogi, you need a break physically and mentally. We all know what an amazing year you already have! So get over that, let's go in USO! I hope to see a sharp as usual Rogi in this USO.

Shy
08-18-2004, 01:19 AM
As a teenager and even now as the world number 1 - when you have had bad days, what was the best advice or words of encouragement your mother, dad or girlfriend gave you?

You always learn from the bad days, you need to look forward and focus on the future matches.

EHendrick
08-18-2004, 01:34 AM
First of all, :crying2: literally. just got done watching the taped match. I always cry when Rogi loses, it's so embarassing :o But I still have a couple dogs in this fight, so the Olympics are not ruined as far as I'm concerned. :)



Look anyone can tell that the number of errors he made resulted in his loss. That's pretty obvious. It's not like you are telling many people anything new.

I quite agree.

It's just an opinion, be it right or wrong. Nevertheless, it doesn't change the notion I have in mind that he is reading his presses too much and becoming overconfident and arrogant. Or else, he wont be making some comments he has been making, which he normally doesn't.

Ok, I agree about the press. Maybe he reads the over-the-top fluff pieces and gets to thinking he's invincible/can't lose or puts too much pressure on himself to produce brilliant tennis every time. I dunno if you've noticed, but some people do think he's invincible, calling him God, etc. :p :cuckoo:
There's a lot of hype that could be damaging if he lets it get to him (the best player ever, able to break Sampras' record.. um HELL-o, he's only won three). As for the comments, I have no frickin' idea what you're talking about. After the Davydenko match, his interview comments were spot on. I have never heard something from him that I think is arrogant except maybe, "It's really incredible, you know, I've played some amazing tennis," but he had played amazing tennis... I'm with Skyward, here, I'd like some evidence.

I feel bad for him that he lost and it's true every great losses once in a while, but I will not deceive myself that Roger has the mental fortitude of a Sampras, neither will I say he fights as well as Hewitt or Roddick, and yes i mean Roddick.

I have no idea about Roger's mental fortitude, so I won't comment, but Roddick is a great fighter, it's true. He always impresses me, especially the Haas match today. I think the gold is Roddick's to lose this time.

I am pretty sure many people disagree with my view of Roger, of late, but anyone who follows my write ups will know I am no Roger hater, neither am I trying to be a short-term Roger fan. However, it's fans like you, Dirk, that make people root against Roger. So, go learn to speak politely. Every tennis player is taught about dfs. Roger double-faulted 3 times to lose the second set. What was that all about? The pressure? What pressure, when it was not even the 3rd set? That's where the match turned, as far as I am concerned. He is the #1 player and is not expected to make such judgments when serving. But, I guess I expect too much from him, and I dont need to anymore, neither is it worth rooting for him with fans like you. Good luck!

Please don't judge all Roger fans by a couple. :) And hopefully this is just one of those "Well, I'll take my ball and go home, then, so there!" things that you will get over with shortly. I like your posts, they're interesting to think about. We don't want any "group-think" here.

Lady Natalia
08-18-2004, 01:52 AM
First of all, :crying2: literally. just got done watching the taped match. I always cry when Rogi loses, it's so embarassing :o . :)

:lol:
I do the same thing. I though I was the only person, besides probably Rogi and Mirka, that cries when he loses. Actually, I have cried when he won, esp. Wimby(both times). Dont be embarrassed, as long as you dont do it in public(LIKE I DID) ;)

Skyward
08-18-2004, 01:56 AM
" I dunno if you've noticed, but some people do think he's invincible, calling him God, etc."

Those people are not very knowledgable. Men's tennis is very deep. There's a reason only a handful of people were able to win 2GS and 3TMS a year.

EHendrick
08-18-2004, 02:01 AM
I do the same thing.
:lol: It's good to know!! This was a very hard loss for me for some reason.
Looking forward to the USO, it's nice that Roddick is the favorite, so maybe Roger can relax a little. I'm not looking forward to the rowdy crowds, though. (I can hear it now, "AN-DY! AN-DY!") The Wimbledon crowds are the kind I like. :angel:

Lady Natalia
08-18-2004, 02:04 AM
I'm with you there. I like the crowds of Wimby more than USO.

EHendrick
08-18-2004, 02:07 AM
By the way, is it safe for Federer fans to visit GM yet? I don't want to read anything by gloating Roddick fans. ("Yesss!!! Maybe this will happen in the USO, too!", etc.)

Lady Natalia
08-18-2004, 02:13 AM
Actually, there has been NO gloating. All the Rodducks, that have posted, have shown sincere sorrow and disappointment in Rogi's loss.

Skyward
08-18-2004, 02:16 AM
Roger's interview

http://www.athens2004.com/en/resultsTennis/results?oid=eee6a72697e6ef00VgnVCM4000002b130c0aRC RD&dcpnews=1&rsc=TE0000000

EHendrick
08-18-2004, 02:19 AM
Oh, I'm glad to hear it! It can get pretty wild and hurtful over on GM and I just wasn't sure I wanted to get more upset unnecessarily or run into a misyou post. Thanks! :yeah:

Lady Natalia
08-18-2004, 02:20 AM
Thank you Skyward!

asotgod
08-18-2004, 02:40 AM
EHendrick,

Look, I am not judging Roger fans by just a couple of posts against me today. I know the bulk of Roger fans are nice. Even the ones in disagreement with me are nice when they wanna be. I know that. I was just stating an opinion when a couple of posters jumped on my throat saying I should shut up and using some obscene words. I dont need that from anyone.

On a second case, when Roger was asked about his match yesterday, he said something like 'I am the favorite and will like to take advantage of it." Another time when asked about the rivalry between himself and Roddick, he said something in the tune of, he is to determine who his rival is. Now those comments pretty much will mean nothing if he is not the #1. He knows everyone is gunning for him. So, he needs to tread softly especially when being asked questions.We all know he is the favorite in every of his match, but he doesn't have to say it because everyone will be gunning for him, and if he flops, a lot can be said. That's all I am saying. It's difficult to be #1 because everyone will keep trying to say stuffs about you. Both comments dont sit well generally, and dont come up like the way I have known him. It's not as if he is lying or not saying his mind. It's just that such stuffs put him in a hole when he loses.

My apologies to any Roger fan that I upset unknowingly in my posts. I did not mean that, neither do I regard you all as evil or hypocritical. Thanks and have a great day.

EHendrick
08-18-2004, 03:13 AM
well ok, then. I haven't read that interview.

Skyward
08-18-2004, 03:29 AM
Number 1 is automatically a favorite for every tournament. What's wrong with that? I've never seen " I determine who is my rival" in print. Anyway, these comments are taken out of contest. Even when he says "I'm the favorite", he points out right away that a lot of guys can win. Btw, before FO he said -"I'm not a favorite" and was critisized by some for downplaying his chances and lack of confidence. There's no way he can please everyone on this earth.

sol
08-18-2004, 04:28 AM
Thanks for the interview,

Well, I think that Roger being based on his good results is pressing to himself. He is hopping to play each match at his best level, but this is not always possible although a player has all the capacities and stay in the high point of the men tennis. The human beings have ups and downs in our lives should learn how to live with that fact and to use that with a positive connotation for the personal and professional growth. This happens to all the sportsmen, in any specialty. You can be in the Top of the physical and mental preparation, but suddenly can fall in a “Slump.”
I am happy with his current results, and would not be disappointed if Roger cannot win another big championship this year. In fact he has achieved more holding and victories that the recent world #1 since the ATP implemented the Indesit champions Race system. I think that Roger should be focused in each match without caring the following one, to forget that he is the favourite to be #1, and all his fans we should be there to support him in the good and bad moments.

PD: English is not my language. Sorry for my bad spelling and writing. :awww:

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SUKTUEN
08-18-2004, 05:19 AM
ROGER, I REALLY LOVE YOU ! ! ! :hug: :hug:

WE ALL ROGER FANS LOVE YOU SO MUCH, I know you are sad, we sad too,

but I know be may the GOD want to test you and give you much more
power and STONG WIN in the future ! !

:worship: GOD PLEASE COMFORT ROGER!!! :worship:

I believe that you will MAKE ROGER MORE POWERFUL ! ! ! :bounce: :bounce:

may be this lost is good to Roger, ;)

:yeah: he need some pain to come back HIS CLAM AND SMART HEAD ! ! :yeah:

ROGER, remember, WE ALWAYS LOVE YOU ! :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

Skyward
08-18-2004, 05:44 AM
This's from Roger's cite( French article)

Disappointment is enormous. I do not know how long it will take me to forget. I know that the first practices won't be amusing ", said Roger Federer after having lived what he called a" terrible day ". "It's done and I must live with it."

"The pressure that I feel, it was imposed by myself. I wanted to do better than Sydney, which means that I wished a medal. I've been dominating during all the season, but I lost confidence after my 1st round. I didn't have confidence in any of my shots against Berdych. I didn't find my rhythm here. However I arrived rather early. I thought that my preparation would be sufficient but apparently not."

"The week off I took after Gstaad was important, but probably not sufficient. Unfortunately it's here at the Olympic Games that I feel it. I will have a new pause after the US Open ", said Federer, who will go to New York on Monday or Tuesday.

Dirk
08-18-2004, 06:40 AM
No Rogi is right. ALL OF HIS MATCHES ARE LEFT UP TO HIM. THOMAS DIDN'T BEAT ROGI TODAY ROGI BEAT HIM. WHEN YOU MAKE 59 ERRORS AND 10 DOUBLES INCLUDED IN 3 SETS SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG. Rogi gifted him that match. Rogi needs to rest up over the weekend and try to take it easy and get into form for the open. I much MUCH RATHER HAVE A WEARY ROGI WHO LOSES EARLY THAN AN INJURIED NINJA.

Astogod I am sorry when I have to attack Rogi fans but some of your bullshit was too much to swallow today. Saying Rogi doesn't fight and is arrogant is wrong. Rogi is not arrogant for stating the facts. HE IS THE FAVE AND CAN WIN ANY EVENT NO MATTER WHERE IT IS.

I don't care about the GM. Most of them like or love Rogi. Some Andy fans are happy but deep down they know Andy could never do what Rogi does. The others just hate Rogi because he is dominate. I do feel sorry for Rogi. I hate seeing him in pain, I wish this was just some small meaningless event but sadly its not. Still I bet Rogi wouldn't trade any of his last three titles he won for that medal. Making history with Borg is a rare feat. Some dope will win a gold medal every four years. You tell me which you rather have?

mitalidas
08-18-2004, 07:46 AM
How come it says ADVERTISEMENT under the article???

Because there's an advertisement for New Zealand Stamps by mail!!!! What? Are you serious? New to the internet? :)

Lley
08-18-2004, 08:01 AM
Roger lost doubles...Of course we can understand him....It was a difficult day 4 him.
But we love him not less....
We love you Rogi!!!

eleven
08-18-2004, 08:03 AM
ATHENS, 12 August -
The gold medallist from the Men's Singles at the Seoul Olympics in 1988, Miloslav MECIR, has spoken about the draw for upcoming Men's Olympic Tennis Tournament.

He pointed out that even though Switzerland's Roger FEDERER is a hot favourite for the gold medal, that the competition always has a chance.

"Roger FEDERER has had good results and good performances in the Grand Slam tournaments. But you cannot say that he will be the winner. In tennis you cannot say who will win before the end of the match and that's beautiful," he said.

This is a very fair comment on today's tennis and it doesn't like some other exaggerated ones which were said by some other 'experts' who just aim to promote tennis although it is not a bad issue.

Every players also has chances to win or lose in a match.

This one is just came at the wrong time to our Rogi! :sad:

Roger, there are still a lot of matches that you're going to win ;) so be well prepared for the rest of them.

You are always my most beautiful player to watch on this planet!!! :eek:
Keep it up!!!

eleven from downunder....... :wavey:

Daniel
08-18-2004, 08:28 AM
Roger I love you :kiss:

i dont care abpout the loss, u r still my tennis god :worship:

now train and w in the US Open :kiss:

shaoyu
08-18-2004, 09:04 AM
Astogod and Dirk, shake hands and be well again, we all share common appreciation of Roger's game. Dirk might be a little rude today, but astogod your endless criticize and complaint were also making us fans uneasy. It's always easy to be critical, but at this moment it is also important to show support and understandings of our Roger. Especially considering all those so-called tennis fans who hates Roger to be #1, we should really show each other some understandings and be re-united as one!

Colosseo
08-18-2004, 09:17 AM
Thouth now I feel so sad!
Oh!
Anyway, Roger wish still be happy!
The result can't show anything!

mitalidas
08-18-2004, 09:23 AM
Touche, shaoyu. fully agree with you, we are her to show understanding and our support for R

Astogod and Dirk, shake hands and be well again, we all share common appreciation of Roger's game. Dirk might be a little rude today, but astogod your endless criticize and complaint were also making us fans uneasy. It's always easy to be critical, but at this moment it is also important to show support and understandings of our Roger. Especially considering all those so-called tennis fans who hates Roger to be #1, we should really show each other some understandings and be re-united as one!

RonE
08-18-2004, 10:38 AM
Oh, I'm glad to hear it! It can get pretty wild and hurtful over on GM and I just wasn't sure I wanted to get more upset unnecessarily or run into a misyou post. Thanks! :yeah:

Don't take everything people in GM say so seriously. If I took every single post in MTF to heart I'd probably already have had 50,000 heart attacks by now.

Who cares what some anti-Fed troll posts? You'll always have the Misyous and the HitchHikers around in GM and in other places. Just ignore them. Rogi's results and his game speak for themselves.

I was actually concerned that if Rogi did well in the Olympics he might arrive in NY too jaded to keep it going, so like I said before I think this is a blessing in disguise.

Winning is important, but even as a fan of a player, it is sometimes good for your favourite to lose because it puts things into perspective and makes us all appreciate all the more how great Rogi's accomplishments have been this year. Don't get me wrong, I dearly wanted Rogi to bring home the gold, but what is done is done, and now we should try to draw as much of the positive things out of the situation as possible.

And there are plenty of positive things to draw out of this situation- as was said earlier, this will give him more time to rest and prepare for the Open, but more importantly it might put back the fire in his belly, just like his loss to Hewitt at DC really pushed him to greater heights at TMC end of last year and AO this year.

Fedex
08-18-2004, 11:04 AM
What the fuck has happened here??!! :mad: :o :rolleyes: So, i leave for a few days, and this is what i come to. Now we dont need this. Please lets try and get along, and no more bashing. We dont need this to become messy. I am very sad at the moment, as I'm sure most of you are, but I will live, and I Think this will only make Roger want to win the USO even more. Its unfortuante, that Roger's next chance at a Gold medal, is in 4 years. Who knows what will have happend by then. For all we know he could be somewhere in the 100 rankings, or could of had a career ending injury. So I really think this was a missed oppertunity. I doubt Roger will be the same player in 4 years, and i have serious doubt that he'll ever win one now. This was his chance. Oh well. On to the USO.

Asar
08-18-2004, 01:14 PM
me is very sorry for Federer that he loss in second round Olympics games. hope he is win new york us open maybe is better for him.
i am like Tommy Haas very very much but i think federer is good person outside the tennis, no?

asotgod
08-18-2004, 02:19 PM
Shaoyu,

Thanks for the motion for peace. Look, Dirk and I are great friends. We just had a minor disagreement. My apologies to everyone for letting my opinions get the better of the whole motive of this forum: support for Roger. I have and always will be an ardent fan of Roger. However, I want everyone to know that any negative opinion about Roger does not mean one does not like him. He is not perfect, neither are we. So, let's not take things said much more personally than they are actually.

Anyways, thanks once again for your wonderful gesture and those of Fedex and matildas.

Here is hoping that Roger will pick up like a ninja on a mission and win the U.S Open. Talk to y'all later.


asotgod.

lsy
08-18-2004, 03:45 PM
:hug: all Rogi fans...

I just went to Rogi's site and good to see him having so many fans leaving him encouraging words and were all trying to cheer him up :hug: I saw many of his home fans also in the guestbooks, not that I can understand what they had written but I'm sure it's some encouraging words :)

I'm sure he will bounce back strong in USO :)

gogo_guga
08-18-2004, 05:48 PM
Yeeeessssssssss!!!!
Roddick lost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gogo_guga
08-18-2004, 05:56 PM
6-4 6-4 to Gonzo!!!!
Gonzo is "da man"!!!!!!

Skyward
08-18-2004, 06:53 PM
I can't beleive it- the Berdych kid beat Robredo. I thought he was going to have a letdown after beating number 1 player in the world.

Dirk
08-18-2004, 07:37 PM
Tomorrow I think he will hit the wall. Dent will be tough to beat for him and plus this kid played two tight matches back to back. I think he will be tired. Thomas really could have lost yesterday. Rogi was super shitty but still barely lost. :sad: oh well as long as Rogi gets well before the Open.

ytben
08-18-2004, 07:39 PM
Yeah he had like 4-10 win loss record for this year :eek:. If he gets a medal it will be a great story, he come out of nowhere basically to win it.

ytben
08-18-2004, 07:42 PM
Yeah that's also my only hope for Rogi to be able to bounce back and do well in USO Dirk. Maybe we should start the USO thread now so we have something to look forward to and not dwell on this loss.

Dirk
08-18-2004, 07:44 PM
I just want Rogi to make the qrts at the Open. I would love for him to win it but right now its just R&R. I think all this pressure Rogi put on himself tired him out mentality as well. I think he will enter the event with the right attitude.

Skyward
08-18-2004, 07:45 PM
Yeah that's also my only hope for Rogi to be able to bounce back and do well in USO Dirk. Maybe we should start the USO thread now so we have something to look forward to and not dwell on this loss.


Where is Billabong these days? He opened the thread about Wimbledon, and it was a lucky charm for Roger. :)

Teemuh
08-18-2004, 08:01 PM
It's a day later, so I can post. Terribly disappointed in this loss for Roger---more probably because I know how much it mean't to him. But a day's reflection shows, it's not the end of the world. Rogi's had such a glorious year, and still another slam to come! He's already done everything you could ask of him and more. Let's see how he reacts to the Open. Maybe this early loss will take all the pressure off of him. It was his fear, and it happened, and , it's okay. He can only add to his tally. Gooo Rogi!

ytben
08-18-2004, 08:03 PM
I am sure we can track him down in the Guga's forum ;)

Yeah Dirk I am also not expecting him to win USO, just defending his points or better is enough for me.

LCeh
08-18-2004, 08:45 PM
Another time when asked about the rivalry between himself and Roddick, he said something in the tune of, he is to determine who his rival is.

Sorry to bring this up again, but I hate it when the media doesn't post the whole excerpt because it's often misleading. Here is the full response:

Q. Not that this should bother you, but can you really see it as a real rivalry if you're always winning, to your good fortune?

ROGER FEDERER: I don't know. Ask Andy. For me, I'm in the driver's seat, you know. I'm No. 1 in the world. I've won the last couple of meetings, I've won the big tournaments lately. For me, you know, whoever comes, I'll try to beat him. But it's almost up to me to decide who's my rival, isn't it (smiling)? No, Andy has been playing great tennis. I think he's a great player. He's good for tennis. We need Americans who are good. He's definitely got the character as well. I'm looking forward to playing him many more times, but we shouldn't forget other players. There's many other great players as well.

Dirk
08-18-2004, 08:54 PM
Ah yes thanks for the context. HEY ASOTGOD COME HERE AND SAY YOU ARE SORRY FOR CALLING ROGI ARROGANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :fiery: OH AND HEY IS ANDY NO LONGER A FIGHTER BECAUSE HE LOST TODAY TOO? DID ANDY JUST LIE DOWN AND DIE FOR GONZO?????????? :rolleyes:

Even Ninja need time to restore himself before he can continue on with his missions. ;) I'm not worried about Rogi but if he loses to someone lowly ranked then I will pause for concern. Rogi will have plenty of time win or lose the Open to rest up for the indoor season. I just hope he gets enough rest till Monday when he leaves for the Open and doesn't push himself too much during his training there before the Open. I think things will be alright. :)

mitalidas
08-18-2004, 09:35 PM
in the grand scheme of things, i dont think the Olympics loss will hurt him. many of the great players (Pete, Rafter, Becker, etc) did not think of winning at the Olympics as a big part of their tennis-vita.

the only reason i feel terribly is that it meant so much to him personally; but when he has moved on from there, hopefully he'll realize that somehow correctly or otherwise a Gold medal does not appear to mean much in tennis circles. (Agassi is never introduced as the 8-time-slam-winner-plus-olympic-medallist--- its only those that never won anything else that are introduced as olympic -this-colour-medal-winner, etc)

Dirk
08-18-2004, 11:03 PM
Becker and Stich won Gold Doubles. There is always 4 years from now. Its just one event. Rogi can't win them all unless he has a chance to play them every year. He will be fine just fine. He couldn't have done anything anyways. The season he had so far was to blame for him being physically and mentally drained. I wouldn't trade one of those titles for a Gold Medal. Not one, besides Athens doesn't pay anything. He has already brought so much glory to Swiss and will continue to do so. I do understand that is meant so much to him and its still sad but then I take a look at what he has done so far in his year and career and :)

asotgod
08-19-2004, 12:42 AM
Dirk,

You are very funny. I knew the context where Roger said it before even posting. But, my point is that many people would take it out of context just because he is #1 and should tread carefully. It was obvious Roger was joking when he made the comment, but it can still be seen as offensive to other players, and as lack of respect for the game, even though that may not be his intention. Hence, I own no one no apologies concerning that. I was just saying Roger needs to be careful what he says because people will be gunning for him.

Anyways, as the old saying goes, "Let sleeping dogs lie." You and myself have done quite a lot to scare the RF forum, and we sure dont need that. I hope you understand that. Thanks for listening, and have a good day.

asotgod.

Shy
08-19-2004, 12:50 AM
I was just saying Roger needs to be careful what he says because people will be gunning for him.

I don't know about anybody else, but I hate it when a player is being too carefull, and give interview that are too polish in order to be politically correct.To me, it shows no personality, and it make them looks like some kind of robot who say what everyone want to hear.

Dirk
08-19-2004, 01:18 AM
Ok Astogod now comment on your stupid "fighter" remark. Rogi is simply telling it like it is. Rogi doesn't offend anyone, they mostly all love him in the locker room. Stop this nonsense about being liked. Pete was super anti social. It doesn't mean a damn thing.

Skyward
08-19-2004, 01:19 AM
I don't know about anybody else, but I hate it when a player is being too carefull, and give interview that are too polish in order to be politically correct.To me, it shows no personality, and it make them looks like some kind of robot who say what everyone want to hear.

The thing is that you never can please everyone, no matter how careful you are. Some people are always reading between the lines and making their own interpretations. Also the media has that annoying habit of making something out of nothing.

ytben
08-19-2004, 07:25 AM
I don't know about anybody else, but I hate it when a player is being too carefull, and give interview that are too polish in order to be politically correct.To me, it shows no personality, and it make them looks like some kind of robot who say what everyone want to hear.

I am in the same opinion as you Shy. If all players have to be too carefull in their answers, soon all interview will look like factory manufactured clone. There will be no point reading them. I prefer players being genuine in their answers even though they may step on some toes.

The thing is that you never can please everyone, no matter how careful you are. Some people are always reading between the lines and making their own interpretations. Also the media has that annoying habit of making something out of nothing.

This is so true Sky. It will be a futile effort trying to please all party. The only thing players can do is just to be themselves and if people don't like it, well that's not their problems.

mitalidas
08-19-2004, 09:54 AM
off this line of discussion, i found this :

ATHENS, Greece - Pumped up in the aftermath of a dramatic win (against Haas), Andy Roddick bumped into Roger Federer in the locker room and asked his rival how he fared.
Talk about a faux pas.
“I lost,” Federer answered, “7-5 in the third.”