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~*BGT*~
09-13-2010, 03:09 PM
Gillou needs to be at home with his baby. :rolleyes:

Puschkin
09-14-2010, 01:36 PM
According to http://www.welovetennis.fr/coupe-davis/27386-gasquet-et-monfils-a-l-entrainement Richard won a practise set against Gael 7-6 (1) and lead 5-3 in the second before they had to stop when the Argies arrived.

Schu
09-14-2010, 04:23 PM
According to http://www.welovetennis.fr/coupe-davis/27386-gasquet-et-monfils-a-l-entrainement Richard won a practise set against Gael 7-6 (1) and lead 5-3 in the second before they had to stop when the Argies arrived.

Gael had him right where he wanted - Richard up a set and a break :D.

Wonder who will actually play. I'm most curious about the doubles. Monfils and Simon are out, that leaves just Richie (who didn't seem to work too well with Llodra) or Arno. What's the rule about naming the doubles team? Can they replace a player after they name the doubles team? and if they do is that the only replacement they can make?

ImmzB
09-14-2010, 04:49 PM
What's the rule about naming the doubles team? Can they replace a player after they name the doubles team? and if they do is that the only replacement they can make?

Yes, you can change the Doubles team before the rubber starts.

You can call up a player who was not selected to take part in a rubber to replace the person who originally named.

~*BGT*~
09-14-2010, 05:15 PM
This shouldn't even be a debate. Clement and Llodra should play together. I mean, they've won a grand slam together and were one of only two teams to beat the Bryans for heaven's sake!

ImmzB
09-14-2010, 05:20 PM
If Richie plays the Singles and he wins a rubber, he can gain 40 ranking points.

Puschkin
09-14-2010, 07:04 PM
This shouldn't even be a debate. Clement and Llodra should play together. I mean, they've won a grand slam together and were one of only two teams to beat the Bryans for heaven's sake!

it is my personal suspicion, but maybe Llodra won't be an option, why otherwise would this happen?


Puis l'après-midi, sur le court n°2, Arnaud Clément a travaillé des schémas de double avec Richard Gasquet,

source: http://www.fft.fr/coupe-davis/2010/france-argentine/?ID=6565

soulage
09-14-2010, 09:14 PM
it is my personal suspicion, but maybe Llodra won't be an option, why otherwise would this happen?


Puis l'après-midi, sur le court n°2, Arnaud Clément a travaillé des schémas de double avec Richard Gasquet,

source: http://www.fft.fr/coupe-davis/2010/france-argentine/?ID=6565
They were supposed to do VTT this afternoon, it has been cancelled because mika has a little in the back and Richard personnal obligations. I assume that instead after or before Richard finished his obligations there was a little train in doubles to do something :lol:. http://www.rmc.fr/editorial/126460/la-sortie-en-vtt-annulee/ No way Mika can't be an option in doubles :p

~*BGT*~
09-15-2010, 02:58 AM
it is my personal suspicion, but maybe Llodra won't be an option, why otherwise would this happen?

Well, I am biased since Clement/Llodra are my favorite doubles team :p Lest you forget:

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l319/blackgirltennis/Davis%20Cup/DavisCup151.jpg

Puis l'après-midi, sur le court n°2, Arnaud Clément a travaillé des schémas de double avec Richard Gasquet,

source: http://www.fft.fr/coupe-davis/2010/france-argentine/?ID=6565

Hmmm, interesting. Is this the most likely team? So Gilles and Gael will handle singles or will Richard do double duty. :unsure:

Puschkin
09-15-2010, 07:05 AM
No way Mika can't be an option in doubles :p
If he is fit, of course not, but is he fully fit? That was my point.

soulage
09-15-2010, 10:08 AM
he is and even try to get a spot in single. Richard and Arno just work the double but not to team up.

Puschkin
09-15-2010, 10:15 AM
he is and even try to get a spot in single.
With "courbatures" in his back? :confused:

Schu
09-16-2010, 05:01 AM
All you in Europe are sleeping but if anyone happens to be awake I found this before I went to bed:

"‎David Nalbandian Sitio Oficial‎: La serie de Copa Davis entre Francia y Argentina comienza este viernes a las 8.30 hs de la Argentina, con TV en vivo por canal 13. David juega en el segundo turno frente a Gilles Simon."

Speaking Spanish worse than French, I THINK that means Simon is #2 singles and I suspect it will be Llodra/Clement for dubs and Richie would be the 5th man.

Guess the offical news will be out before I wake up.

Puschkin
09-16-2010, 12:40 PM
http://www.rmc.fr/editorial/126697/monfils-et-llodra-en-simple-gasquet-ecarte/

Gael and Llodra for singles on Friday, Richard not on the team. Personally I am no DC-lover so I don't mind that much, I hope Richard does not take it badly, but if France loses, I will be all over Forget. :p

ImmzB
09-16-2010, 03:06 PM
Richie. :(

ImmzB
09-16-2010, 03:08 PM
Will Richie still be there to cheer the French team or will he go to Metz to practise?

icecastle
09-16-2010, 03:15 PM
So who's playing doubles? I hope richie's not so disappointed.

~*BGT*~
09-16-2010, 03:16 PM
^^ Clement/Llodra!!! My favorite doubles team! :woohoo:

Puschkin
09-16-2010, 03:16 PM
Will Richie still be there to cheer the French team or will he go to Metz to practise?
If I was in his place, I would not stay on. Being the fifth man twice in a year is a bit heavy. Play a round of golf or two, Richard, relax and win Metz! Singles and Doubles!:D

Edit: Richard being less unforgiving than me will probably put a good face on the matter.

Jozie
09-16-2010, 03:21 PM
http://www.rmc.fr/editorial/126697/monfils-et-llodra-en-simple-gasquet-ecarte/

Gael and Llodra for singles on Friday, Richard not on the team. Personally I am no DC-lover so I don't mind that much, I hope Richard does not take it badly, but if France loses, I will be all over Forget. :p

I would really have rated Richard as being the form player, after Gael (but then i'm biased):p
I guess the risk would be playing Richard against Nalbandian, otherwise I cannot think that any of the other Argies would be a threat. They are really missing Del Potro this time round.

I am also not a mad lover of DC, and I think Richard will probably support the team for the first couple of ties, and then head off to Metz. Wasn't it said previously that Richard is a very good support for the team without playing?

reggie1
09-16-2010, 04:07 PM
I am very surprised that he is not on the team. Shame for him in some ways as I think he quite likes being part of it but at least no grief if France don't do well.

scmom
09-16-2010, 04:33 PM
I am sorry that Richard is not on the team - but I certainly cannot fault Forget for choosing Llodra as the number two singles player . He played fabulously against Spain , and was deserving of the choice again.
Now , here is my question . If things do not go France's way in the first two singles matches ( hope that does not happen , but it could ) , can Forget substitute Richard and Simon into the lineup on Sunday ?
They were named to the team - just not to the starting lineup so to speak .

teem
09-16-2010, 05:00 PM
I am sorry that Richard is not on the team - but I certainly cannot fault Forget for choosing Llodra as the number two singles player . He played fabulously against Spain , and was deserving of the choice again.
Now , here is my question . If things do not go France's way in the first two singles matches ( hope that does not happen , but it could ) , can Forget substitute Richard and Simon into the lineup on Sunday ?
They were named to the team - just not to the starting lineup so to speak .

For Simon yes, he could play day 3 but not riri except one of the four players will be injured :confused:

teem
09-16-2010, 05:01 PM
I'm not sure !

Schu
09-16-2010, 05:38 PM
If I was in his place, I would not stay on. Being the fifth man twice in a year is a bit heavy. Play a round of golf or two, Richard, relax and win Metz! Singles and Doubles!:D

Edit: Richard being less unforgiving than me will probably put a good face on the matter.

Someone is a bit bitter here ;)

You guys aren't gonna like this but for once I agree completely with Forget. AS disappointed as I think Richard might be because he does seem to really like DC, I think he too knows this was probably the right choice. Given Richard's horrid 5 set record, his recent mentally poor showing in USO against Gael, his H2H against Nalbandian and hate to bring it up but the DC 2008 "incident" and Llodra/Clement's record, Forget had safer options.

As for me I am very GLAD. If France looses, and i'd say it's 50-50 barring injury to Argentina, Richie can't be the scapegoat and I am now no longer torn over which team to pull for. No secret I like Nalbandian ALMOST as much as Richie. If Richard was playing I would of course love for him to be a DC winner at home but I'd still be torn because Nalbandian I think is only staying on the tour to get a DC title and his time is running out. With no Richie or Benneteau and not too crazy about the rest of the team. I do like the doubles duo of Llodra/Clement (their tennis as a team not them particularly) but I also do really like Monoco and Zeb? (however you spell his name). So well ...let's just say - Vamos! Talk to you guys after DC.:wavey:

I do hope RIchard isn't too bumbed out, being #5 twice when France is missing two players is probably a bit :o but maybe this inspires him to show that he can step it up when the pressure is on by winning some big matches the rest of the year - so he can play in the DC final :D

ANd I'd probably hit the road for Metz but then again he might not want to burn any bridges so I bet he stays - just better not be playing with his phone the whole time!

Puschkin
09-16-2010, 06:18 PM
As expected: Richard putting a good face on it. But the distance between him and Llodra is the farthest possible. Coincidence? :p

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs660.snc4/60078_443098838698_200510388698_4959937_4435850_n. jpg

Someone is a bit bitter here ;)

Not so much about the choice, as the way it came about. Llodra forced Richard out by publicly stating is preference for Clément. And Forget, who obviously stakes everything on Llodra, had to oblige. Llodra forgets that he himself played crap in that doubles with Richard in Ostrava.

Anyway, the choice has been made, my weekend will be less stressful, but when Forget's gamble gets wrong, I won't be silent.

Schu
09-16-2010, 08:21 PM
As expected: Richard putting a good face on it. But the distance between him and Llodra is the farthest possible. Coincidence? :p

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs660.snc4/60078_443098838698_200510388698_4959937_4435850_n. jpg



Not so much about the choice, as the way it came about. Llodra forced Richard out by publicly stating is preference for Clément. And Forget, who obviously stakes everything on Llodra, had to oblige. Llodra forgets that he himself played crap in that doubles with Richard in Ostrava.

Anyway, the choice has been made, my weekend will be less stressful, but when Forget's gamble gets wrong, I won't be silent.


the ever classy Richard puttin on a good face but I think those dark pants that stick out like sore thumb is his way of saying "shove it". Like to see a little defiance in the boy.

And Puschkin - I agree that Llodra didn't have to make RIchard look like a fool and leave Forget with no other option. But hey Llodra did step up last time and might deserve for Forget to listen to him this time.

Know you won't be silent if the French loose but I still think Forget has fielded the best team under the current circumstances and if they loose it was because they lost to a better team.

Vlad1980
09-16-2010, 08:49 PM
This is kinda sad that he can't make the team even with Tsonga out injured, Monfils semi injured, Simon struggling and Llodra almost fainting at US Open in his loss.. there is not much else to say.

mukado
09-16-2010, 09:30 PM
Richie was not in balance with Clement for the double, but with Mika and Gilles for the second single. So stop blaming Llodra. I love the way Mika improve his game with age, he should be an example for Richie, but I'm so afraid now Richie will follow PHM's way.
He shows by loosing against Gael in Us Open, that he's still mentally deficient and too tense in important matchs...and this stupid decision to split with Markus bring doubts.
The choice is rational.

kiwialicat
09-17-2010, 12:59 AM
no Richie? ouch. I don't know much about DC but I was surprised that they would have Llodra play singles and doubles. Why Simon over Gasquet?

icecastle
09-17-2010, 03:03 AM
I was still in denial this morning & actually hoping that somebody will say Richie will play for DC. I really feel bad for him. He obviously wanted to play and was very enthusiastic with the practice sessions. I actually feel hurt for him and I'm only his fan. I want to give him a big hug.

~*BGT*~
09-17-2010, 04:51 AM
Honestly, I would have played Richard just for the first day. Being #2, he'd have played Monaco, who I seriously believe he can beat. Then he can sit out the rest of the weekend. Give Mika the rest for Saturday and Sunday.

Puschkin
09-17-2010, 07:13 AM
http://www.welovetennis.fr/coupe-davis/27471-gasquet-present-pour-ses-coequipiers

Coupe Davis > Gasquet présent pour ses coéquipiers

Placé sur la touche par Guy Forget, Richard Gasquet remplit son rôle de 5e homme. Le 29e joueur mondial a partagé une séance d'entraînement avec Arnaud Clément hier, le faisant travailler tous les secteurs de jeu qu'il souhaitait perfectionner, le tout sous les yeux de Lionel Roux.

Richard is really a team-player, working with Clément in all areas he wanted on Thursday.

scmom
09-17-2010, 04:07 PM
so Llodra does win his first match in the tie. And Richard , along with Tsonga and Benneteau are there to support the team .

and I am sorry - what the heck happened to my tv coverage
seriously ? I have to see Mardy Fish play in taped tennis
when Gael and Nalbandian are getting ready to start live !
This sucks

tennisc
09-17-2010, 04:30 PM
I wonder the same thing about our tv coverage, Beth. Surely, as Americans we are expected to love Mardy Fish! These people have no clue at all.
I watched the first tie also and I feel better. It was very good to see Richard, Julien, and Jo, who I did not expect to see, cheering on their team. Perhaps we, as fans, are the ones who have bad feelings over this. We just have to trust they know what they are doing. Good luck, Frenchies!!

acd692
09-17-2010, 05:11 PM
i cant believe my tv coverage is showing the davis cup, its the first time! i don't see richard btw

ImmzB
09-17-2010, 05:28 PM
Is Richie allowed to play in the 4th or 5th rubber, if he was selected?

Puschkin
09-17-2010, 10:39 PM
Is Richie allowed to play in the 4th or 5th rubber, if he was selected?
no.

Puschkin
09-17-2010, 11:01 PM
.....il s'est entraîné avec Richard Gasquet. Et il reste du travail : «Lui a fait l'entraînement en marchant, moi j'étais à fond. J'ai fini "carpette" et lui était nickel ! Pourtant, on faisait des "droite - gauche". Je pense donc que j'ai encore un peu de boulot.»

Full article: http://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/breves2010/20100917_223403_tsonga-supporter-modele.html

The article only praises Tsonga's role as supporter, mentions Benneteau, not a word about Richard. But then it comes.

...he (Tsonga) practised with Richard this Friday morning and there remains work to be done. "He was marching and I was at the back. In the end I was ko and he was doing great. However, we did left-right (I do not know what he means by that), I think I have still work to do."

scmom
09-18-2010, 06:24 PM
just watched the French win their tie - and the whole French team looked so happy
But the announcer on our coverage said at least twice that Gasquet was injured , and thus unavailable to play in this tie
Was he just wrong ? Or has some new injury come up that I have not heard about
Any news from France that does not appear in the US papers ?

ImmzB
09-18-2010, 06:32 PM
just watched the French win their tie - and the whole French team looked so happy
But the announcer on our coverage said at least twice that Gasquet was injured , and thus unavailable to play in this tie
Was he just wrong ? Or has some new injury come up that I have not heard about
Any news from France that does not appear in the US papers ?

I don't think he was Injured.....:confused:

He's still playing Matz.

marina36
09-18-2010, 07:12 PM
just watched the French win their tie - and the whole French team looked so happy
But the announcer on our coverage said at least twice that Gasquet was injured , and thus unavailable to play in this tie
Was he just wrong ? Or has some new injury come up that I have not heard about
Any news from France that does not appear in the US papers ?

I never heard about an injury this week... I think it's wrong.

Congrats to the French team! :D:D

silverwhite
09-18-2010, 10:17 PM
Spotted this in the Direct Soir from last night...

Puschkin
09-18-2010, 11:07 PM
But the announcer on our coverage said at least twice that Gasquet was injured , and thus unavailable to play in this tie
Was he just wrong ? Or has some new injury come up that I have not heard about
Any news from France that does not appear in the US papers ?

I also heard that rumour from someone present in Lyon already on Friday, but I think it is just plain wrong. Reportedly Richard practised with Tsonga in Lyon on Friday, he is in singles and doubles draw in Metz, I can't imagine him not withdrawing on time, if he was really injured.

My interpretation is that someone just messed up Tsonga and Richard and it was repeated without checking. There was nothing about it on any of the usual French sources.

scmom
09-18-2010, 11:20 PM
Thanks for confirming my suspicions guys
American tennis announcers just don't know what they are talking about quite often
Should have known , since it was Ted Robinson making the comment
He is about as knowledgeable about tennis as my dog :)
And glad that Gasquet is healthy , and ready for action in Metz . Wishing him good luck !
and also glad to see the French team was in total support of each other at the Davis Cup tie .

Puschkin
09-18-2010, 11:50 PM
http://www.richardgasquet.net/V3/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1351&mode=&order=0&thold=0

A guy reporting from Lyon on rgnet says that Richard also practised today with Tsonga. So I really think the injury stuff is misinformation.

Puschkin
09-19-2010, 06:29 PM
Sorry for being :topic: , but the Austrian DC team beat Israel and they are back in the world group. I want them to draw France next year!;)