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Rotterdam R2: Nadal def. Dimitrov 7-5, 3-6, 6-2

habibko
02-12-2009, 09:16 PM
no thread?

very promising stuff from the Bulgarian, he was cramping a little bit in the third and the approach on the backhand really won Nadal many free points, but still good stuff from Grigor :yeah:

Nadal stats:
Aces/DF: 3/1
1st serve%: 61%
break pts won: 7/12

Dimitrov stats:
Aces/DF: 9/9
1st serve%: 59%
break pts won: 2/9

Nidhogg
02-12-2009, 09:16 PM
Grig has game, that's for sure. Shame that he cramped up in the middle of the third set.

EnriqueIG8
02-12-2009, 09:16 PM
Wonderful performance by Dimitrov but Rafa didn't play his best.
Future top 10 star this 17 yo :worship:

TMJordan
02-12-2009, 09:17 PM
Damn I was hoping Dimitrov would give the middle finger to the chair ump there.


Good showing from the future GOAT :rocker2:

Lucky Nadal will be roasted next round :rocker2:

coria_fan
02-12-2009, 09:17 PM
Great mach for Grigor! Nadal is totally lucker, but nextime Grigor will be beat him!

FedererBulgaria
02-12-2009, 09:17 PM
Grigor,you`re amazing!I`m sooo proud!

SniperBG
02-12-2009, 09:17 PM
Grigor played very well ! I'm impressed . More luck next time ;)

finishingmove
02-12-2009, 09:18 PM
dimitrov is forrealz

HeretiC
02-12-2009, 09:18 PM
2 1/2 hours against No 478 is just what doctor ordered.:rolleyes: Lundgren did a fine job with the youngster, but to be honest Nadal probably had more UE's than he usually has during the course of the whole tournament :eek:

Andi-M
02-12-2009, 09:19 PM
GriGOAT losing to HC mug Nadal is a shock.

Nice performance from the kid. He looks good.

federernadalfan
02-12-2009, 09:19 PM
nadal will not go far in this tourny

HattonWBA
02-12-2009, 09:19 PM
Yh this Dimitrov looked very impressive and will be great player for sure, volleys and fitness need some work but that will come with experience, that forehand in the second set was huge, keep it going rafa

m9m9m9m9m9
02-12-2009, 09:20 PM
167km/hr forehand passing shot in 2nd set :worship:

ChinoRios4Ever
02-12-2009, 09:20 PM
this kid is amazing, he will be very good if he stays healthy and keep his mind in the right way :yeah:

oranges
02-12-2009, 09:21 PM
I really like this kid, he's got game and he's not easily impressed :worship: Made no1 frown a lot and pull his triple muscle flexing to boost himself :bowdown: :D

Voo de Mar
02-12-2009, 09:22 PM
Dimitrov looks like a guy who wants to copy every single shot of Federer :) He must to adore him ;) 10 years ago 17 year-old Federer played in Rotterdam 3-setter against Kafelnikov.

richie21
02-12-2009, 09:23 PM
Dimitrov played well but let's be honest,Nadal was fucking poor in that match.
As someone said,he made as many UEs in that match as he usually makes in a whole tournament!

Yves.
02-12-2009, 09:23 PM
Nadal :o, I dont think he'll reach the F...

l_mac
02-12-2009, 09:26 PM
Rafa :haha:

Worst I've seen him play since this time last season.

Tess Gray
02-12-2009, 09:26 PM
Very impressed with Grigor :worship: Nice backhand:)

Rafa:o you should have played much better tonight. You better step it up if you want to win this tournament.

Johnny Groove
02-12-2009, 09:26 PM
Indoor King on display here :o

malisha
02-12-2009, 09:27 PM
good win for the 1

Labamba
02-12-2009, 09:27 PM
love this kid :) miles ahead of Tomic right now

in the long run it was probably better that he lost today, less hype etc.

ret
02-12-2009, 09:27 PM
:worship::worship::worship: to Grigor

good win for the 1
and good lose for the 478:D))

so proud of him.

PiggyGotRoasted
02-12-2009, 09:30 PM
Nadal will never win a tournament again.

Stanko Dapa
02-12-2009, 09:31 PM
Amazing Grigor :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

safinalium
02-12-2009, 09:31 PM
I cannot be objective of course but Grigor for me is a future goat. With a little more experience and self control he can go very far.. And he's still 17, so he has all the time ahead of him :)
So proud of our Bulgarian boy!!! :hug:

ChinoRios4Ever
02-12-2009, 09:32 PM
Yeah, Rafa was poor today, but the kid make him look bad too, those bh's slice were sick (See Roger? ;)). :eek:

Diorelli
02-12-2009, 09:32 PM
Rafa was all over the place today. Very promising, this young GOATlet.

l_mac
02-12-2009, 09:35 PM
but the kid make him look bad too,

:lol:

mimosa
02-12-2009, 09:35 PM
Wow, wow, wow...
What impressive game, Grisha! I am so proud of you!!!:worship:
Thank you and good luck! The next time you will be the winner.:hug:

Filipo
02-12-2009, 09:40 PM
very good stuff from Grigor :worship: Nadal made a lot of errors, but that is promising :D Keep it up Grisho :rocker2:


Nadal stats:
Aces/DF: 3/1
1st serve%: 61%
break pts won: 7/12

Dimitrov stats:
Aces/DF: 9/9
1st serve%: 59%
break pts won: 2/9

the stats on the stream was absolutely wrong. Nadal has 4/8 BPs, while Grigor's DF were 6 :)

2 1/2 hours against No 478 is just what doctor ordered.:rolleyes: Lundgren did a fine job with the youngster, but to be honest Nadal probably had more UE's than he usually has during the course of the whole tournament :eek:

Ludngren will start to work soon with Grigor (Muratoglu academy).

Michael Bluth
02-12-2009, 09:45 PM
Is this a future World No. 1?

decrepitude
02-12-2009, 09:46 PM
Are you all calling him a kid because he is young or because he is a baby goat? :confused:

spriwi
02-12-2009, 09:48 PM
rafa wtf :o

Smoke944
02-12-2009, 09:49 PM
Beautiful tennis is back :wavey:
Dimitrov has an amazing game, hope he can now get pumped up for futures and challenger matches in order to get his ranking up really fast.

Bazooka
02-12-2009, 09:49 PM
LOL at the mind games with the sliced BH's.!!!

Seriously, Nadal played decently the first 15 minutes and the last 10 or so. The rest was maybe his worst tennis since... here past year.

Grigor really "learned" during the match and improved bit by bit, understanding his tricks, and went from clueless in the first (despite the 7 5) to actually winning rallies in the second and winning his set.

Very likely he's top 10 material, and deserves more WC's.

Smoke944
02-12-2009, 09:51 PM
Yeah, Rafa was poor today, but the kid make him look bad too, those bh's slice were sick (See Roger? ;)). :eek:

Agreed, he can really knife it.
Also, at 17 years old he seemingly already handles the high BH better than Fed :lol:

vamosinator
02-12-2009, 09:53 PM
These are the great matches, when you play your worst and still win, like in the Australian Open Final :D

CescAndyKimi
02-12-2009, 09:53 PM
Grigor at 17 has an amazing BH. Not going to jump the gun by saying future slam winner etc, but definitely top top talent. top 3 IMO, with a slam here and there by the time he's 20.

Bazooka
02-12-2009, 09:55 PM
Agreed, he can really knife it.
Also, at 17 years old he seemingly already handles the high BH better than Fed :lol:

Yeah, maybe we should wait for a day when Rafa is actually playing, but seemed to be the best 1H backhand vs Rafa, I've ever seen! :P

andylovesaustin
02-12-2009, 09:56 PM
Get em Rafa.

I thought "the kid" might win because I don't think Rafa has recovered from the AO. But as always, Rafa somehow finds a way.. It's amazing.

Where is Roger anyway? He's not playing a tournament this week?

Bazooka
02-12-2009, 10:00 PM
Get em Rafa.

I thought "the kid" might win because I don't think Rafa has recovered from the AO. But as always, Rafa somehow finds a way.. It's amazing.

Where is Roger anyway? He's not playing a tournament this week?

Federer won't play until Dubai in 2 weeks.

And yes, one of the unique things about Rafa is that he finds a way to have good results when playing bad. His lowest form is good enough to win very often and go deep in tournaments, that's lots of ATP points... he's reached the later rounds of every tournament past year except Rome and Rotterdam, while the other top 10 have often early exits or average results.

A_Skywalker
02-12-2009, 10:01 PM
I watched only a little. I hope Rafa loses next match so he can rest more.
Dont get burnt for small tournaments Rafito.

l_mac
02-12-2009, 10:01 PM
Is this a future World No. 1?

Current :sport:

Smoke944
02-12-2009, 10:03 PM
These are the great matches, when you play your worst and still win, like in the Australian Open Final :D

:lol: :lol: :lol:

vamosinator
02-12-2009, 10:04 PM
I watched only a little. I hope Rafa loses next match so he can rest more.
Dont get burnt for small tournaments Rafito.

No need for rest, there's winning to be done :)

A_Skywalker
02-12-2009, 10:05 PM
No need for rest, there's winning to be done :)

Yes, French Open and Wimbledon :p

tennizen
02-12-2009, 10:08 PM
Rafa's unforced errors were hilarious. That said Grigor:worship: He is not afraid to play against the #1 player in the world. I think that's the biggest positive for him. Excited to see how his career turns out.

shotgun
02-12-2009, 10:08 PM
Good effort by the Bulgarian Donald Young.

vamosinator
02-12-2009, 10:08 PM
AMEN SISTER SKYWALKER calender year grand slam here THE RAFA comes :wavey:

andylovesaustin
02-12-2009, 10:11 PM
Federer won't play until Dubai in 2 weeks.

And yes, one of the unique things about Rafa is that he finds a way to have good results when playing bad. His lowest form is good enough to win very often and go deep in tournaments, that's lots of ATP points... he's reached the later rounds of every tournament past year except Rome and Rotterdam, while the other top 10 have often early exits or average results.

Wow, that's a long break for Roger, isn't it?

Thanks for the info..!

Modetopia
02-12-2009, 10:19 PM
Cool kid, love that bh tricky slice @ 2nd set game7 :devil:
reminds me Fed used it against Hewitt @ Miami 2002.

Yves.
02-12-2009, 10:25 PM
What happened to Nestor/Zimonjic?

BackhandMissile
02-12-2009, 10:29 PM
I haven't seen him play since the AO final but the high number of UE's by Nadal suggest he's probably trying to take it easy as long as he can (which does result in longer matches, but with lower intensity).

Not taking away anything from Dimitrov, who sounds like he's got game, but as Federer said, Grand Slams are a different animal.

oranges
02-12-2009, 10:30 PM
Good effort by the Bulgarian Donald Young.

He already has far better weapons, not to mention the attitude.

Yves.
02-12-2009, 10:35 PM
Dimitrov looks like a guy who wants to copy every single shot of Federer :) He must to adore him ;) 10 years ago 17 year-old Federer played in Rotterdam 3-setter against Kafelnikov.

:eek:

guga2120
02-12-2009, 10:43 PM
It is great for Rafa to be in these battles in crap tournaments, at this point in the year. It will be good for him later in the year.;)

Yes, French Open and Wimbledon :p

He's already got those, New York, is next.

adee-gee
02-12-2009, 10:45 PM
Ludngren will start to work soon with Grigor (Muratoglu academy).
I think he's already been working with him a bit, I saw them together on the practice court at the US Open. When Grigor hit a scorching backhand winner, Lundgren shouted "better than Federer" :lol:

Good effort from Dimi here :yeah: if he keeps working hard he'll go far in the game.

dylan24
02-12-2009, 11:15 PM
can't wait for murray to roast this pig on sunday

meihaditalab
02-12-2009, 11:19 PM
good job Rafa:) its all about winning, no difference if its in 2-3 sets. all that counts is that he won the match:):)

Pea
02-12-2009, 11:50 PM
Great tourney, Grigor!

alfonsojose
02-13-2009, 12:34 AM
Hopefully Clownga will stop Pocahontas tomorrow

Nathalia
02-13-2009, 12:59 AM
What a beautiful backhand this Dimitrov boy has. Love it. He's one to watch, has a great future ahead of him.

GlennMirnyi
02-13-2009, 01:01 AM
Rafa :haha:

Worst I've seen him play since this time last season.

Wow, for someone so used to Nadull's game, to read this is quite funny.

GugaF1
02-13-2009, 01:05 AM
This Dimitrov has one of the nicest by far...Games that I have seen in a youngster in a while. No two handed generic backhand shot, no generic topsin forehand. Lovely game... He makes Djokovic look like an amateur, as far as when I first saw matches early in their career.

cmurray
02-13-2009, 01:08 AM
Rafa's unforced errors were hilarious. That said Grigor:worship: He is not afraid to play against the #1 player in the world. I think that's the biggest positive for him. Excited to see how his career turns out.

Me too. I enjoyed Dimitrov's game.

That being said - um, nice forehand Rafa. :rolls: Tsonga's going to massacre him tomorrow.

FiBeR
02-13-2009, 01:15 AM
I wonder if Dimitrov is the new Ryan Harrison :scratch:

Guy Haines
02-13-2009, 01:18 AM
can't wait for murray to roast this pig on sunday

Yeah, since Federer is an also-ran, I think they made a deal: under-the-radar #1 Nadal could have the Australian as long as "favorite" Murray took...Rotterdam.

Really want to see this match. That's a funny factoid, Voo.

What surfaces will Dimitrov excel on? All of them?

Also, what the hell is happening (or not) with Berankis?

wilmar
02-13-2009, 01:28 AM
Wow, for someone so used to Nadull's game, to read this is quite funny.

Well, it just goes to show that we "so-called fan-boys" in your eyes are actually not blind clueless idol worshipers.:angel:

We do know when Nadal excels and when he did not deliver. And better, we can have a sense of humour about it too ;)

GlennMirnyi
02-13-2009, 01:31 AM
Well, it just goes to show that we "so-called fan-boys" in your eyes are actually not blind clueless idol worshipers.:angel:

We do know when Nadal excels and when he did not deliver. And better, we can have a sense of humour about it too ;)

No, it's funny because Nadull's game is always the same and can't be shittier. Only someone totally blind can say seriously something like what she said.

luie
02-13-2009, 01:38 AM
No, it's funny because Nadull's game is always the same and can't be shitter. Only someone totally blind can say seriously something like what she said.
:spit:
I like the bulgarians game.:)

vamosinator
02-13-2009, 02:06 AM
This is a great experience for THE RAFA to have a free shot at glory albeit minor glory. Nobody would expect him to be in top form so far out from Roland Garros so to win Rotterdam would be a huge bonus and to get some more scalps mentally (Tsonga, Murray) is extremely beneficial :D

Kolya
02-13-2009, 02:07 AM
Dimitrov >>> Tomic :haha:

wilmar
02-13-2009, 02:42 AM
No, it's funny because Nadull's game is always the same and can't be shitter.

12 Masters, 6 Slams and a #1...to too bad for a game so shit

GlennMirnyi
02-13-2009, 03:31 AM
12 Masters, 6 Slams and a #1...to too bad for a game so shit

Mug era + slow courts.

:wavey:

Voo de Mar
02-13-2009, 04:02 AM
“He will certainly be a great player and for sure reach the top 10” Nadal said.

MalwareDie
02-13-2009, 04:11 AM
A typical Mugboar comment.

vamosinator
02-13-2009, 06:14 AM
THE RAFA's comments about 'improvement' being his goal each year correlates perfectly with indoor carpet being his worst surface hence the need to win Rotterdam. Indoor carpet and winning the US Open are probably his points of emphasis this season, as they were his 2 weaknesses last year :mad:

MalwareDie
02-13-2009, 06:25 AM
his goal each year correlates perfectly with indoor carpet being his worst surface hence the need to win Rotterdam.

This would make sense if carpet tournaments still existed.

vamosinator
02-13-2009, 07:01 AM
Ah that's right the PBZ Zagreb Indoors in Croatia is Indoor Carpet, while Rotterdam is merely hardcourt :p

mikkemus23
02-13-2009, 07:55 AM
His backhand was nice, and Rafa couldnt take advantage of it. In contrast to Feds...

HattonWBA
02-13-2009, 07:59 AM
Yh Dimitrov looked like a really good prospect, but still too early to tell, i mean theres arguabbly not many players more talented than gasquet and he is getting worse at the minute

Stefanos13
02-13-2009, 08:00 AM
Nadal looked tired unfortunately. He reminded me of how he looked and played during his pre-USOpen last year: uncharacteristically unsettled, impatient, and out of sorts. And when he looks/feels tired he misses a lot of his strong shots, such as the forehand as well as many volleys.

I hope he recovers for Tsonga because I do think he hasn't recovered yet from the trip to Australia

rafa_maniac
02-13-2009, 08:43 AM
can't wait for murray to roast this pig on sunday

:haha: Rafa is NOT making the final.

Rafa, do us a favour and don't let Krajicek con you into attending this useless tournament next year, it seems to bring out your worst tennis. :wavey:

delpiero7
02-13-2009, 08:56 AM
Biggest loads of bollocks performance that Nadal has put in for quite a while. That plus he seemed to be taking the piss more than usual with his time between serves.

vamosinator
02-13-2009, 09:33 AM
THE RAFA is playing his B-game to avoid mental fatigue, it leads to a lot of unforced errors but his clutchness sees him through. His A-game (as in the game where he makes very few unforced errors) is mentally exhausting so he isn't using it in this tournament. The B-game is a kind of 'go with the flow swing for the fences' kind of game which is good enough to beat most players. When he plays Tsonga he will have to make the decision of either continuing with the B-game or lifting to the A-game :D

oranges
02-13-2009, 09:46 AM
^^ OMG, the Nadal camp got it's own ruanz :help:

adee-gee
02-13-2009, 12:52 PM
^^ OMG, the Nadal camp got it's own ruanz :help:
:rolls:

scarecrows
02-13-2009, 01:43 PM
theRAFA is clearly an account created for trolling

groundstroke
02-13-2009, 03:10 PM
Grigor at 17 has an amazing BH. Not going to jump the gun by saying future slam winner etc, but definitely top top talent. top 3 IMO, with a slam here and there by the time he's 20.

Doubt it, for him to become top 3 he'll have to do something extraordinary, the way he is playing now he will never win a Grand Slam or reach the top 3. You're over-hyping him.

Corey Feldman
02-13-2009, 03:12 PM
see what happens when Nadal actually plays on a real surface? struggles v mugs

Uncle Toni will sort these tournament organizers out next year like he's done everywhere else

tennizen
02-13-2009, 03:13 PM
see what happens when Nadal actually plays on a real surface? struggles v mugs

Uncle Toni will sort these tournament organizers out next year like he's done everywhere else

I think old age is getting to Uncle Toni. He's not as quick as he used to be. You would have thought he would have sorted these guys out after Seppi-gate last year:rolleyes:

vamosinator
02-13-2009, 03:30 PM
see what happens when Nadal actually plays on a real surface? struggles v mugs

Uncle Toni will sort these tournament organizers out next year like he's done everywhere else

THE RAFA is playing his B-game to avoid mental fatigue, it leads to a lot of unforced errors but his clutchness sees him through. His A-game (as in the game where he makes very few unforced errors) is mentally exhausting so he isn't using it in this tournament. The B-game is a kind of 'go with the flow swing for the fences' kind of game which is good enough to beat most players. When he plays Tsonga he will have to make the decision of either continuing with the B-game or lifting to the A-game :D

There really is no reason for THE RAFA to use his A-game (Grand Slam-level intensity) in this tournament. However he may be tempted to if he feels beating Tsonga serves him a psychological advantage for upcoming Slams should they meet :D

Venle
02-13-2009, 05:28 PM
Dimitrov will be a future-great, mark my words :worship:

GlennMirnyi
02-13-2009, 06:01 PM
This would make sense if carpet tournaments still existed.

:lol: pure ownage.

Ah that's right the PBZ Zagreb Indoors in Croatia is Indoor Carpet, while Rotterdam is merely hardcourt :p

There are no more carpet tournaments. Time to get a clue.

Bazooka
02-13-2009, 06:12 PM
Glenn, if you really hate Rafa so much, talk about Grigor's game. You're becoming even more obsessed than usual. One would think you will never post here again if Nadal retired.

GlennMirnyi
02-13-2009, 06:14 PM
Glenn, if you really hate Rafa so much, talk about Grigor's game. You're becoming even more obsessed than usual. One would think you will never post here again if Nadal retired.

I will post just the same. What's your point?

Why should I talk about a 17 year-old no-one's game? When he's a developed player there will be a chance to talk about his game.

A_Skywalker
02-13-2009, 06:29 PM
Glenn, if you really hate Rafa so much, talk about Grigor's game. You're becoming even more obsessed than usual. One would think you will never post here again if Nadal retired.

No, I dont think he will stop to post. This Glenn is smart, he is spending all his time in enterteinment here on MTF :lol:

Certinfy
02-13-2009, 06:35 PM
Very surprised by the youngster, defo has a bright future ahead of him :)

BaselineSmash
02-13-2009, 07:54 PM
I reckon the first thing to look for in up-and-comers is whether they have a sound head on their shoulders i.e. the opposite of Florian Mayer. Dimitrov looked like he belonged, and really took to the occassion in a very self-composed manner. And that single-handed backhand looks good, but it remains to be seen how it translates to other surfaces. Another name to add to what is already a pretty illustrious camp of potential, future big-title contenders.

vamosinator
02-14-2009, 02:08 AM
:lol: pure ownage.



There are no more carpet tournaments. Time to get a clue.

Here is YOUR clue:

http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/schedule;_ylt=AsYxWqa.6JRnjJCRd4p10_44v7YF

Feb 2 - Feb 8 -- PBZ Zagreb Indoors -- Zagreb, Croatia -- Carpet:wavey:

MalwareDie
02-14-2009, 02:19 AM
Here is YOUR clue:

http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/schedule;_ylt=AsYxWqa.6JRnjJCRd4p10_44v7YF

Feb 2 - Feb 8 -- PBZ Zagreb Indoors -- Zagreb, Croatia -- Carpet:wavey:

Here's a clue:

Don't use garbage sources.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/1/en/tournaments/profile/2276.asp

wilmar
02-14-2009, 02:20 AM
Glenn, if you really hate Rafa so much, talk about Grigor's game. You're becoming even more obsessed than usual. One would think you will never post here again if Nadal retired.

Glenn is actually a closet Nadal fanboy. ;)
He's a bit stunted in expressing his yearning emotions for Rafa, so that's just his way of showing his lurrrrve. :wavey: