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Should Roger skip clay this year?

FedFan_2007
02-05-2009, 10:20 PM
Imagine he plays Dubai, IW & Miami and then takes off all April and starts to prepare for grass in late May... He'll be unbeatable in Wimbledon if he does this I think! It's worth the hit to the ranking to try...

Dini
02-05-2009, 10:21 PM
:rolleyes:

Ridiculous.

biological
02-05-2009, 10:23 PM
I think the no. 1 ranking is too important to him for a move like that. I agree that it would make his grass season physically better but the mental edge Rafa would get from Roger effectively signing over all the clay events would be a nightmare.
I reckon it would be a bad move, all things considered. If he can win a clay tourney his confidence would rocket and that would be worth more than some extra practice I feel.

MalwareDie
02-05-2009, 10:36 PM
I think the no. 1 ranking is too important to him for a move like that. I agree that it would make his grass season physically better but the mental edge Rafa would get from Roger effectively signing over all the clay events would be a nightmare.
I reckon it would be a bad move, all things considered. If he can win a clay tourney his confidence would rocket and that would be worth more than some extra practice I feel.

Cannot agree with the bolded portion at all. If Roger doesn't meet up with Mugboar, Mugboar can't gain confidence from beating him. Mugboar may feel like all his victories are hollow victories.

I do agree that winning a clay event will help his confidence.

dootsiez
02-05-2009, 10:42 PM
Clay is big part of the game. Just because you don't think your chances of winning a title on the surface are all that great doesn't mean you just give up, skip it and try something easier. To be scared of losing, and losing to a particular player isn't just poor sportsmanship, it's poor character, and Roger would never think of it. Pfffttt

FedFan_2007
02-05-2009, 10:45 PM
Clay is big part of the game. Just because you don't think your chances of winning a title on the surface are all that great doesn't mean you just give up, skip it and try something easier. To be scared of losing, and losing to a particular player isn't just poor sportsmanship, it's poor character, and Roger would never think of it. Pfffttt

But in this case, maybe a strategic tank by skipping the clay season totally throws Nadal off and maybe allows Djokovic to win Roland Garros! :devil:

Bottom line, it' time for crazy desperation moves because Roger's window for winning on clay is almost shut. In fact 2009 might be the very last time he contends.

Obey.my.dreamz
02-05-2009, 10:45 PM
He's beaten Rafa a LOVE SET on clay.. he can win him I guarantee (on a side that im cheering him,,.am being objective)
I think after this AO,.. he's gonna play almost like he has nothin to lose,..and am sure he'll gonna be a pain in the a** for rafa this season,.. so I'd rather he plays every clay masters(1000series) !! Some people just don't get how good he is on clay,.. its just that he has this monster rafa against,.. look at Sapmras ,..some may say they are the same (both rock on grass and both sux on clay) HELL NO,.. Rog is SICK on clay,.. he reached a final 4 times,.. he would won 4 times hadnt there be nadal,..and plus others clay tours like hambugr ,montecarlo 2008, rome 2006..and all other finals he had play,..
He shouldn't be missing clay season for the world,...!

FedFan_2007
02-05-2009, 10:48 PM
It just seems that 2008 clay season mentally destroyed him at Wimbledon.

cool bird1
02-05-2009, 11:26 PM
I think roger should do hat ever he wants. But what ever he does do I just want him to stop being scared. I just want him to go and sort out his head.

FedFan_2007
02-05-2009, 11:36 PM
I think roger should do hat ever he wants. But what ever he does do I just want him to stop being scared. I just want him to go and sort out his head.

Don't you think he can't get rid of his fear of Nadal for good reasons?

#1 - apparent winners come screaming back for winners by Nadal
#2 - 5hr14 minute match doesn't faze Nadal for the final(fitness monster)

Don't you think he's justifiably intimidated?

cool bird1
02-05-2009, 11:46 PM
Don't you think he can't get rid of his fear of Nadal for good reasons?

#1 - apparent winners come screaming back for winners by Nadal
#2 - 5hr14 minute match doesn't faze Nadal for the final(fitness monster)

Don't you think he's justifiably intimidated?

No I dont. I would be thinking ok you got that one get this one. Or can you get this drop shot. Or that Im gonna be out here til the sun comes out if that what it takes.

FedFan_2007
02-05-2009, 11:48 PM
No I dont. I would be thinking ok you got that one get this one. Or can you get this drop shot. Or that Im gonna be out here til the sun comes out if that what it takes.

Yeah but does he have the fitness to engage in that mindset? Nadal is like - "I relish the fight and will fight you for 10 hours if need be", whereas I don't get that vibe from Federer. He wants to be out of there as quickly as possible.

cool bird1
02-05-2009, 11:55 PM
Yeah but does he have the fitness to engage in that mindset? Nadal is like - "I relish the fight and will fight you for 10 hours if need be", whereas I don't get that vibe from Federer. He wants to be out of there as quickly as possible.


Well all I can say to that is if Federer is not willing to stay out there one more hour more then Nadal or anyone then maybe its time to rethink things.

FedFan_2007
02-05-2009, 11:57 PM
Well all I can say to that is if Federer is not willing to stay out there one more hour more then Nadal or anyone then maybe its time to rethink things.

That's what hiring a new coach could do - tell Roger these things! I think Roger lives in a bubble of yes-people and worshipers who are afraid to tell Roger what he needs to hear! I don't think he needs a technical guy, because nobody is smarter in tennis then Roger in terms of forehands/backhands/serves/footwork. He needs a mental coach only, some guy who will push him!

cool bird1
02-06-2009, 12:07 AM
I dont know its not for me to say. But I was thinking if you where Roger coach what could you say to him.
I dont think there is anyone out there who could get him out of his slump with Nadal. He is well inside Federer head and everyone knows it

Obey.my.dreamz
02-06-2009, 12:08 AM
nice point fedfan,.. i think had federer woken up from coma (God forbid )and some1 told him he's the no.1 in tennis and he's playing vs some 150ranked guy called nadal,.. that he managed to have 10-1 in meetings,.. he'd rip him of thinking its gonna be a 11-1 ^^,.. the point is,.. He is somehow unable to close the set,.. to stay tough until the last point, him federer,.... whole 2008 every set against nadal i think he had adv... like 4-1 , 5-1 and serving,..but he was unable to close it... It has something to do with nadal's consistent play,.. but ,.plz,..
I watchd him play Rafa and when he was beating him., you could see he was playing to and expecting that,.. u could see he simply made his mind like that,.. i mean,.. coming back from set down, against nadal ON CLAY it just cant be just luck or skill,.. its all abut the head,... so he managed to outclass nadal on clay!! that lovely summer in hamburg on 07

cheerz

nobama
02-06-2009, 12:17 AM
What a ridiculous thread. I guess I shouldn't be surprised by OP. :rolleyes:

NYCtennisfan
02-06-2009, 02:36 AM
What a ridiculous thread. I guess I shouldn't be surprised by OP. :rolleyes:

The thread is ridiculous because Federer isn't going to skip the clay season, but I believe that if he did, he would up his chances at Wimbledon. Sampras all but skipped the clay season late in his career and prepared for the grass.
The last time Federer left RG early (2004), he played exceptionally well at Halle and the first week of Wimbledon.

dootsiez
02-06-2009, 06:13 AM
It's ridiculous because people are making foregone conclusions before a single ball has been played yet. And knowing the nature of tennis, you just don't know what will happen, so why give up? Especially when you're a 3 time finalist.

nobama
02-06-2009, 07:32 AM
Roger's a 3 time RG finalist. The #2 player on clay. He's got a boat load of points to defend. I don't think skipping the clay season is an option at this point. And certainly not something he's going to do.

t0x
02-06-2009, 05:03 PM
Roger still has a chance at RG...

It may only be a small one, but still, he'll be second favourite.

SUKTUEN
02-06-2009, 05:48 PM
I think he don't

Obey.my.dreamz
02-06-2009, 08:42 PM
It's 'doesn't ' and I disagree,.. HE DOES!!! he's thinking the same way that u are ..thats why he aind grabbin' it just yet... But I think with this loss and those tears he unleashed a negative part that was accumulating in him,and now as not being a favorite..the pressure should be off, and he should outclass nadal aswell!
cheers

Eden
02-07-2009, 03:25 PM
The thread is ridiculous because Federer isn't going to skip the clay season, but I believe that if he did, he would up his chances at Wimbledon. Sampras all but skipped the clay season late in his career and prepared for the grass.
The last time Federer left RG early (2004), he played exceptionally well at Halle and the first week of Wimbledon.

Do you really think Roger would have better chances in Wimbledon and in a possible final against Nadal if he doesn't play the claycourt tournaments? He did fine on grass the last year's when he reached the finals of nearly all clay tournaments.

Roger has shown in the past that he is the 2nd best player on clay. He even did well in a lot of his matches against Nadal there, though Rafa was able to turn around those matches.

RogiFan88
04-05-2009, 11:38 PM
Rogi should only or would only skip the clay season (highly unlikely tho) IF he is not healthy and fit. Let's see if this 3-week break is enough for him to recuperate, have his back seen to, start training for the clay.

oneandonlyhsn
04-06-2009, 09:56 AM
As much as I hate the dirt, Roger should only skip clay if his back is bothering him. If not, then he needs to play, he needs more matches and he desperately needs a big Win.

tennis2tennis
04-06-2009, 03:47 PM
roger is not roddick he doesn't 'give up' on a surface...

juninhOH
04-06-2009, 04:01 PM
Roger will rest pretty much an entire month before he plays again. There are Monte Carlo and Barcelona before he is back. I doubt his back will still be bothering him.

ExpectedWinner
04-06-2009, 06:58 PM
Roger will rest pretty much an entire month before he plays again. There are Monte Carlo and Barcelona before he is back. I doubt his back will still be bothering him.

If you believe his interviews, it's been going on since November. :shrug: What makes you think that the recovery "has been scheduled" for May?

timafi
04-06-2009, 08:29 PM
unlike Roddick and his countrymen,Roger has been the 2nd best clay court player behind Nadal,for years now.He has the results to back him up.Why should he skip it?:shrug:

I mean why not hook up with Cahill as soon as this week and work hard as hell and having Cahill stay in Europe for 2 months for the clay and grass court seasons and stay in the States after Wimbledon and work in Vegas there.I know baby Federer will come soon but if Roger rents a house with Mirka and baby;it will be ok for them;as long as baby is comfortable and they are together,happy and safe

he can't be that tired really and the back is not hurting these days.

yoga and pilates and acupuncture might be a good idea for that sore back of his.I can attest to that.I have 2 bulging discs and I just got my 2nd epidural injection just 4 weeks ago:mad:

time to sack the trainer/physio if the back is still an issue because his training sessions should be modified to fit his age and his needs.They should be very aggresive with the method they are using or go a different way.We need long term relief and results

juninhOH
04-06-2009, 08:42 PM
Every player has pains. It's not like Roger is the only one. He can win titles despite his back. He has not been losing because of his back.

nobama
04-07-2009, 12:12 AM
Every player has pains. It's not like Roger is the only one. He can win titles despite his back. He has not been losing because of his back.And how would you know that? :scratch:

Sunset of Age
04-07-2009, 12:17 AM
And how would you know that? :scratch:

If you believe René Stauffer in his biography of Roger, his back has been troubleing him on-and-off during his entire career. It's not something that has only been there since November 2007...

tennisfan444
04-07-2009, 02:19 AM
Its only my op, but if he skipped the entire clay season RG and went on to win Wimby and the Open, the press and many in the tennis world would still be all over him for it. They would call him a quitter on clay, say his record is tainted blah blah blah. While I don't like his chances, if he comes through with a win at RG, its going to be huge. Alot of people will lay off and give the man as much credit as his fans know he deserves. If I had to choose only one slam for him to win this year, its RG. Win RG, lose Wimby and the Open its still a great year.

rofe
04-07-2009, 04:29 AM
Its only my op, but if he skipped the entire clay season RG and went on to win Wimby and the Open, the press and many in the tennis world would still be all over him for it. They would call him a quitter on clay, say his record is tainted blah blah blah. While I don't like his chances, if he comes through with a win at RG, its going to be huge. Alot of people will lay off and give the man as much credit as his fans know he deserves. If I had to choose only one slam for him to win this year, its RG. Win RG, lose Wimby and the Open its still a great year.

That guy in your avatar needs to come to 2009.

wackykid
04-07-2009, 06:21 AM
unlike Roddick and his countrymen,Roger has been the 2nd best clay court player behind Nadal,for years now.He has the results to back him up.Why should he skip it?:shrug:

agree... and he might do even better in clay compare to hard courts this year... where he seems to be finding problem defeating murray... djoko... and nadal... but on clay murray and djoko have not shown to be able to play on that surface... so clay is the best bet for federer to at least stay on at no.2....


regards,
wacky

FedFan_2007
04-07-2009, 10:27 AM
The upshot on clay is that you can't many winners on this surface anyways, so Fed can focus on just hitting solid groundstrokes.

Daniel
04-07-2009, 05:25 PM
No, Roger shouldnt skip the clay season. He got a chance to win RG beating the pig in the final.. ;) :worship:

nobama
04-07-2009, 06:42 PM
If you believe René Stauffer in his biography of Roger, his back has been troubleing him on-and-off during his entire career. It's not something that has only been there since November 2007...I didn't say that. But I don't know how people on the sidelines can make blanket statements like that. We can all have our theories, but none of us know for sure why he's in the slump he is right now.

FedFan_2007
04-07-2009, 07:33 PM
Mellow - you of little faith.

juninhOH
04-07-2009, 08:05 PM
Well I don't know, MY.

I just think he isn't losing because of his back. His game is still there. Just all out of a sudden it goes off and he loses.

DAMNNNNNN I can't believe I'll have to wait for almost a month to see him playing again. That's sad! :(

Rita
04-07-2009, 08:09 PM
Well i'd rather see him mentally refreshed (hopefully :unsure: )in one month than see him perform the kind of tennis he played last week :tape:

timafi
04-07-2009, 08:11 PM
Well I don't know, MY.

I just think he isn't losing because of his back. His game is still there. Just all out of a sudden it goes off and he loses.

DAMNNNNNN I can't believe I'll have to wait for almost a month to see him playing again. That's sad! :(

I know but in the meantime let's hope that as soon as this week;he'll start working hard on his weaknesses.(even Roddick's 2 hander has improved compared to Roger's and it pains me to say that:help:)
Roger's game is still very much there people;we've seen flashes of brilliance on his part:bowdown:
I'm just asking myself why he can't hook up with Cahill during the clay and grass court seasons in Europe and work with Cahill during the summer.I mean Cahill is always there so why not:shrug:

anon57
04-07-2009, 08:28 PM
:scratch:Isn't Cahill signed with Adidas now so that he's only allowed to coach players sponsored by Adidas, kind of the same deal as Sven Groenefeld. So I don't think it's possible for Roger and Cahill to work together, plus they couldn't come to an agreement about a coaching relationship before IW, I don't quite see how that would change now:confused:

Sunset of Age
04-08-2009, 02:12 AM
:scratch:Isn't Cahill signed with Adidas now so that he's only allowed to coach players sponsored by Adidas, kind of the same deal as Sven Groenefeld. So I don't think it's possible for Roger and Cahill to work together, plus they couldn't come to an agreement about a coaching relationship before IW, I don't quite see how that would change now:confused:

That's a very interesting take on the Cahill situation, Kim. I guess you are right - it was more than ' just' the traveling problems that hindered the coopertation. Believed so right from the start... threre's a lot of rubbish involved in such contracts - pay-off money, etc.
In any case, it is a sad situation indeed.

Eden
04-08-2009, 10:33 AM
My French isn't the best, but apparently Roger plays a preparation tournament before the French Open which takes place from May 20th to 22nd. Other players in the field are Nadal, Murray, Nalbandian, Monfils, Blake or Safin.

Maybe someone can translate the original article below:


Du beau monde à Paris avant Roland-Garros
08/04/2009-[10:20] - Sports.fr

Rueil-Malmaison accueillera la crème du tennis mondial du 20 au 22 mai, soit deux jours avant le début de Roland-Garros, à l’occasion du premier Masters Guinot Mary Cohr. Ainsi, Rafael Nadal, Roger Federer, Andy Murray, David Nalbandian, Gaël Monfils, James Blake ou encore Marat Safin ont répondu présent pour disputer un tournoi de préparation sur les courts en terre battue de la ville des Hauts-de-Seine. L’occasion pour certains des grands favoris aux Internationaux de France 2009 de se tester une dernière fois avant d’entrer en scène sur les courts de la Porte d’Auteuil.

Here's the link to the tournament: http://www.guinotmarycohrmasters.com/?C=D;O=A#

MariaV
04-08-2009, 10:35 AM
To answer the original question - yes he absolutely should. :D

^Sue^
04-08-2009, 11:56 AM
No, he shouldn't skip bcos' he shd focus on winning his French Open this year..the coming years are tough for him to hold the French Open's trophy with a bunch of new budding stars coming out recently..... Plus, if he skip, what'll b the advantage of it???

Sunset of Age
04-08-2009, 01:26 PM
My French isn't the best, but apparently Roger plays a preparation tournament before the French Open which takes place from May 20th to 22nd. Other players in the field are Nadal, Murray, Nalbandian, Monfils, Blake or Safin.

You got it quite right there. Okay, a lousy attempt from my head:

Tennis stars will be in Paris before Roland-Garros
08/04/2009-[10:20] - Sports.fr

[The Paris Golf & Country Club of] Rueil-Malmaison will receive the top stars of worldwide tennis from 20 till 22 May, two days before the beginning of Roland-Garros, for the first Masters Guinot Mary Cohr[-tournament]. As such, Rafael Nadal, Roger Federer, Andy Murray, David Nalbandian, Gaël Monfils, James Blake or alternatively, Marat Safin, have been announced to compete for a preparation tournament on clay court at the city of Hauts-de-Seines. This will provide an opportunity for some of the big favourites for the French Open of 2009 to practice a last time before entering the stages on the courts of the Porte d'Auteuil.

Something like that.
So, IF THIS IS TRUE, Roger will indeed attend an (invitational) preparation tournament before RG. About which I have to admit having mixed feelings.

Skipping Estoril and Monte Carlo, but indeed appearing here? Hmmm hmmm.

nobama
04-08-2009, 02:42 PM
You got it quite right there. Okay, a lousy attempt from my head:

Tennis stars will be in Paris before Roland-Garros
08/04/2009-[10:20] - Sports.fr

[The Paris Golf & Country Club of] Rueil-Malmaison will receive the top stars of worldwide tennis from 20 till 22 May, two days before the beginning of Roland-Garros, for the first Masters Guinot Mary Cohr[-tournament]. As such, Rafael Nadal, Roger Federer, Andy Murray, David Nalbandian, Gaël Monfils, James Blake or alternatively, Marat Safin, have been announced to compete for a preparation tournament on clay court at the city of Hauts-de-Seines. This will provide an opportunity for some of the big favourites for the French Open of 2009 to practice a last time before entering the stages on the courts of the Porte d'Auteuil.

Something like that.
So, IF THIS IS TRUE, Roger will indeed attend an (invitational) preparation tournament before RG. About which I have to admit having mixed feelings.

Skipping Estoril and Monte Carlo, but indeed appearing here? Hmmm hmmm.So how does one or maybe two exhibition matches (if that's what it is) = a tournament? I have mixed feelings about him skipping MC if all the other big names (sans Roddick) are playing there. Mixed feelings because I want him to get healthy and the time off will be good for his mind and body, but also don't want Djerk and Murray closing in on #2. But a meaningless exho a few days before RG to me is just as good if not better than practice sessions with Luthi and some lower ranked player.

Sunset of Age
04-08-2009, 02:46 PM
So how does one or maybe two exhibition matches (if that's what it is) = a tournament?

That's what they - organization - call it themselves. I'd rather say 'exho matches' myself as well. :shrug:

I have mixed feelings about him skipping MC if all the other big names (sans Roddick) are playing there. Mixed feelings because I want him to get healthy and the time off will be good for his mind and body, but also don't want Djerk and Murray closing in on #2.

Exactly the same here...

But a meaningless exho a few days before RG to me is just as good if not better than practice sessions with Luthi and some lower ranked player.

Difference is that this thingie will draw a lot of attention from the media again, and I don't know if one can indeed view this as proper practice. Sounds more like a 'showing off'-kind of occasion to me.
But of course I don't know. It's just my general dislike of players playing exho's while skipping official tournaments that kind of bugs me.

timafi
04-08-2009, 04:59 PM
Blake imo has no business playing there amongst the bunch:rolleyes:

nobama
04-08-2009, 06:28 PM
It's just my general dislike of players playing exho's while skipping official tournaments that kind of bugs me.I guess for me it's one thing if it's an exho over several days that ends up looking just like a tournament. But if it's a one or two day hit and giggle it doesn't bother me so much. Plus I've yet to see an 'exho' that Roger or Nadal have particiapted in that didn't end up being somewhat serious.

RogiFan88
04-08-2009, 09:53 PM
To answer the original question - yes he absolutely should. :D

hey, MariaV, what are you doing here and why do you want Rogi to skip the clay season this year? you have to back up your reply! ;)

MariaV
04-09-2009, 07:52 AM
hey, MariaV, what are you doing here and why do you want Rogi to skip the clay season this year? you have to back up your reply! ;)

:wavey: Nice to see you here too! :) I just happened to drop by yesterday. :o
I thought that with the baby underway maybe he should kinda support Mirka more, and not cause additional trauma to himself with losses on clay. ;)
That's just me.... kidding. :p I'm sure he'll play on clay if he's healthy. :D

tufani
04-09-2009, 01:40 PM
Roger will play Monte Carlo, he received a WC. Source (http://www.sport24.com/tennis/fil-info/federer-sera-present-253641/), and also check the tournament's thread (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=140084&page=4).

Puschkin
04-09-2009, 02:13 PM
Roger will play Monte Carlo, he received a WC. Source (http://www.sport24.com/tennis/fil-info/federer-sera-present-253641/), and also check the tournament's thread (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=140084&page=4).

And I am going. :banana: :)

nobama
04-09-2009, 02:25 PM
There is a note on rf.com from Roger that he has indeed accepted a wild card for Monte Carlo. :)

yanchr
04-09-2009, 03:01 PM
What is with his decision to be in Monte-Carlo? Is he thinking of getting back No.1? Is he thinking of winning RG? He should forget about both under the current circumstances. Is he desperate to be back on court and prove sth? Then he really doesn't have to. If his back is still not back to 100% (which looked like it in Miami), he should take enough rest to heal his back. The realistic thing is really to focus on Wimbledon this year. I don't quite understand his decision here. Not to say another exhibition before RG? Good for the tournaments and the fans who are going though.

lunahielo
04-09-2009, 03:19 PM
Well, bonne chance in Monte Carlo! Have fun, Roger. I'll be cheering for you once more. :)

Luna

nobama
04-09-2009, 03:54 PM
Is it possible that Roger could drop to 3-4 in the rankings prior to Wimbledon. I guess I'd like to see him hang on to his #2 ranking as long as possible. Of course I don't want to see him risk long term health either. I hope this is the right decision in the end.

trickcy
04-09-2009, 05:26 PM
I see that Roger's playing MC.. He has a lot of points to defend, and skipping both MC and Estoril would not be the way to go, and he must be confident enough about his back to play, and that's a good thing.. but maybe it'd have been better if he'd maybe waited until Rome to play as planned, and sorted things out. Hope his decision works out the best way:shrug:

Sunset of Age
04-09-2009, 07:32 PM
Is it possible that Roger could drop to 3-4 in the rankings prior to Wimbledon. I guess I'd like to see him hang on to his #2 ranking as long as possible. Of course I don't want to see him risk long term health either. I hope this is the right decision in the end.

It IS possible (don't ask me about the exact maths though, but I think it was posted in the 'rankings'-thread in GM a couple of days ago) - but at least it won't have ANY influence on his seeding at Wimbledon, as they do the special 'grass'-seeding over there. :)

And well, if he does well in MC, chances of him losing his #2 spot have become a lot less.

SUKTUEN
04-09-2009, 07:40 PM
Roger will go to Monte Carlo!

Rita
06-08-2009, 11:29 PM
ALLEEEZ :hearts: :hearts:

recessional
06-08-2009, 11:42 PM
:lol: What an awesome bump.

Obey.my.dreamz
06-08-2009, 11:47 PM
i think he should skip clay this year.. hbu?

Dini
06-09-2009, 12:27 AM
Bump of the year. :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

I can't stop laughing. Sorry Alex. :o

wackykid
06-09-2009, 02:19 AM
But in this case, maybe a strategic tank by skipping the clay season totally throws Nadal off and maybe allows Djokovic to win Roland Garros! :devil:

Bottom line, it' time for crazy desperation moves because Roger's window for winning on clay is almost shut. In fact 2009 might be the very last time he contends.

quote... :lol::lol::lol:


regards,
wacky

refero*fervens
06-09-2009, 05:07 AM
:lol: Aww, I love the strange way things work out sometimes. ;)

iSzavay.
06-09-2009, 05:13 AM
:rolls: OMG gr8 bump!!!

trickcy
06-09-2009, 09:30 AM
Awesome bump :rolls: :haha:
Rita :yeah:

cool bird1
06-09-2009, 10:45 AM
:haha::haha::haha: God some of us where is such a slump after Federer lost to Nadal at the Aussie Open.

He proved me wrong in so many ways and though out the whole of FO he showed me what a fighter he really is.

FedFan_2007
06-09-2009, 04:09 PM
Oh god I'm so embarrassed. :o

recessional
06-09-2009, 07:44 PM
Oh god I'm so embarrassed. :o

:lol: It's okay. :hug:

trickcy
06-10-2009, 09:17 AM
Oh god I'm so embarrassed. :o

:lol: :p

anon57
06-11-2009, 05:23 PM
:lol:Awesome bump:p