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ITF contemplates Tomic life time ban

Matchu
02-02-2009, 07:08 AM
Tennis Australia will accept Bernard Tomic life ban
By Leo Schlink
February 02, 2009 TENNIS Australia will throw Bernard Tomic to the wolves even if the star junior is given a life ban from the Pro Tour circuit for walking off court in Perth in December.

Tennis Australia's director of player development Craig Tiley declared Tomic would not receive any support from officials if the ITF bars the 16-year-old prodigy from the Pro Tour.

Such a ban would not prevent Tomic contesting ATP or grand slam events, but eviction from the Pro Tour's Challenger and Futures events would block the Queenslander's bid to improve his ranking.

TA's hardline stance comes amid revelations an official at the Sorrento futures event filed a police complaint against a player's parent.

WA police confirmed a complaint had been lodged on December 2 and investigated, but would not name the parent.

A spokesperson said no action was taken and the report was forwarded to TA.

John Tomic was ordered to make a public apology by TA for forcing his son to default the match and has privately described the experience as the most humiliating of his life.

Bernard Tomic was fined $1350 for walking off court during the second-round match when trailing Marinko Matosevic.

The youngster could be charged with aggravated behaviour by the ITF, an offence which could lead to a Pro Tour life ban.

Tomic will rise to about 550th in the new rankings and will probably be selected to make his Davis Cup debut for Australia against Thailand next month.

But his immediate fate rests in the hands of London-based ITF officials.

"Two things with that. John Tomic's copped his penalty from us in a public apology. Then also we're not going to defend the ITF's decision," Tiley said.

"Quite often what happens is that the ITF makes a decision which is pretty harsh. Then the national federation comes in and tries to overturn it. We've told the ITF we're not going to be doing that.

"So whatever the ITF's decision is, we're supporting it."

Tomic walked off court after being ordered to do so by his father, who had repeatedly accused officials of not taking action against Matosevic's alleged foot faults.

An argument ensued after the match between John Tomic and officials.

Tiley said the Tomic's had been counselled and he did not expect a repeat of the behaviour.

"John knows and Bernard knows that (defaulting) is against the rules," Tiley said.

"You don't walk off the court without a reason. You get punished for that and you get penalised for that.

"And then you don't talk about the officiating after the match or talk to the officials."

"You get penalised and punished for that - that's the rules of the game. We don't have jurisdiction over the parent, only the athlete."

Tennis Australia won't help him if it does happen. Guess Bernard would have to rely on the goodwill of other national federations to give him wildcards into ATP events. I can see some countries giving him qualifying wildcards so I don't think it would be that bad if he did get banned.

au_sports_opinion
02-02-2009, 07:15 AM
Its from a newscorp newspaper which for people who dont know = fox news = scandalous journalism etc, we know he won't get a life ban.

finishingmove
02-02-2009, 07:19 AM
that would be pretty retarded

-Evita-
02-02-2009, 09:32 AM
The youngster could be charged with aggravated behaviour by the ITF, an offence which could lead to a Pro Tour life ban.

So he's not even charged yet and they are already talking about the biggest possible punishment? Scandalous journalism at its best :retard:

Kolya
02-02-2009, 10:07 AM
How can you ban this guy?

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/Petrosian63/Tomic.jpg

azza
02-02-2009, 10:14 AM
i call bs.

MurrayFan1
02-02-2009, 10:19 AM
He gets a lifetime ban for walking out in the second round of, what is this, like a challenger event or an ITF vent? Pathetic.

Thanos
02-02-2009, 10:21 AM
How can you ban this guy?

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/Petrosian63/Tomic.jpg

i got ho's, i got ho's in different area codes.

new-york
02-02-2009, 10:26 AM
a fine and a warning that he better not do that again would be way enough.

duh.

Aliciasace
02-02-2009, 10:45 AM
haha they'll never ban him

bad gambler
02-02-2009, 10:49 AM
:lol:

Hola Mr. SK
02-02-2009, 11:05 AM
How can you ban this guy?

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/Petrosian63/Tomic.jpg
:haha:

Matchu
02-02-2009, 12:56 PM
Tomics on the moveDavid Lewis

February 2nd, 2009

HE doesn't turn 17 until October but Bernard Tomic -- the Southport kid who briefly swooned the nation at the Australian Open -- believes he will be cutting down top 10 tennis players within two years.

After showing flashes of his shimmering potential in his grand slam debut at Melbourne Park, where he reached the second round after felling 77th-rated Italian Potito Starace, gangly young gun Tomic is a cover story in the making.

But to fast-track his assault on the tennis turrets, he and the rest of Team Tomic -- father John, mother Ady and tennis-playing sister Sarah -- will swap the Gold Coast for Florida or London to be better placed to push for a place on the ATP Tour and land more wildcard entries to mainstream tournaments.

With the might of global management giant IMG behind him and an armoury of shots from the tennis text books, the kid with the instincts of a sniper knows he has the world between the strings of his racquet.

"If I can beat Starace now, considering that he was once ranked 26 in the world, then maybe I will beat top 10 players in two years," said Tomic.

"I want to be making my mark in two years or so. I've taken a lot of confidence from the last month but I know I have to leave Australia now to try and better myself.

"I'll get the chance to play with a wider range of practice partners and also be closer to where the tournaments are being played. IMG stage a few tournaments on the ATP and there could be wildcard opportunities for me there."

Newly ranked at 560 in the world, Tomic added: "I grew up on the Coast (after arriving as a three-year-old when his Croatian father John gained refugee status for the family) and I will miss it. But if I'm to get to the top I have to make the move. There are just so many opportunities for me overseas."

"The Australian Open (where his fairytale was ended in four sets by Luxembourg's Gilles Muller) showed me I can mix it with some of the top guys, I just need to stay healthy, get stronger and play a few tournaments."

The 2008 Australian Junior champion returns to action at the $US50,000 Burnie Pro Circuit in Tasmania today hoping there will be no post-Open hangover.

He believes he has tamed an impetuous streak which threatened to double-fault his future.

"I've worked hard to keep my cool on court," said Tomic. "I've had periods where I've been very calm on court but there have been times when I've thrown my racquet around in frustration. You learn you shouldn't do these things."

Despite his abundant talent, Tomic knows he must improve his game if he is to realise his dream of breaking into the top 10 by the time he's 20.

"I'm working on building up my legs for a start, I need greater court speed," he said.

"If I had the speed of Rafael Nadal now I'd be top 10, but I don't. I'm also trying to improve my serve.

"I'm up to about 190km/h, but I need to be hitting them at 220."

While rubbing shoulders with the greats of the game at the Open, Tomic is not overawed by players who were once his idols.

As Tomic himself puts it: "Now I have to look at becoming my own idol."


Looks like hes already thinking about getting wildcards into ATP tournaments this year! I guess hes going to be like Carsten Ball and play all the American challengers for the rest of the year.

I hope he doesnt take up American citizenship thats all.

Experimentee
02-02-2009, 01:06 PM
He has no chance of getting a lifetime ban. What sensational journalism :rolleyes:

Henry Chinaski
02-02-2009, 01:12 PM
"If I can beat Starace now, considering that he was once ranked 26 in the world, then maybe I will beat top 10 players in two years," said Tomic.

flawless logic. but hey, at least he's confident.

rocketassist
02-02-2009, 01:19 PM
The ITF should fuck off and let him get on with his career.

CooCooCachoo
02-02-2009, 01:29 PM
"If I had the speed of Rafael Nadal now I'd be top 10, but I don't. I'm also trying to improve my serve.


:rolls:

Langers
02-02-2009, 02:28 PM
Worst "report" ever.

alfonsojose
02-02-2009, 02:48 PM
Some people here seem to forget the Dokic, Capriati, Pierce fiascos. Ok, it was WTA but i've seene crazy, mean dads/coaches in the G1 junior even here in Barranquilla. Lifetime still seems harsh but crazy tennis dads need to be punished.

petar_pan
02-02-2009, 02:53 PM
How can you ban this guy?

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/Petrosian63/Tomic.jpg

really good question?:cool:

Bazooka
02-02-2009, 02:59 PM
Hey, tomic, while you work in the Nadal's mobility area, don't forget to learn from him some humility. Common sense is always useful too.

petar_pan
02-02-2009, 03:38 PM
this ban is really bs.

jcreback
02-02-2009, 03:42 PM
The ITF isn't going to ban a kid who has top ten potential. It would only hurt themselves.

kiwi10is
02-02-2009, 03:43 PM
leaving the court was wrong but this guy is only 16 years old. They should give him a fine and let him go on with his career. There are worse cases than this one.

r2473
02-02-2009, 08:10 PM
I heard that Tomic and Donald Young are planning an exhibition tour together, so the ban shouldn't be much of a problem.

Tickets for the event should go on sale soon. $300 / seat.

gusman890
02-03-2009, 01:45 AM
With Nadal's speed, he would be in the top 10?

I call bullshit.

GlennMirnyi
02-03-2009, 01:57 AM
It would be nice, though.

Knightmace
02-03-2009, 02:20 AM
With Nadal's speed, he would be in the top 10?

I call bullshit.
maybe with Federer's Forehand
Djokovic Backhand
Andy ROddick serve
Nadal's speed
Verdasco's looks
Nalbandian's appetite.
Davydenko's hair

He could be a top 10 player no?

alfonsojose
02-03-2009, 05:34 AM
maybe with Federer's Forehand
Djokovic Backhand
Andy ROddick serve
Nadal's speed
Verdasco's looks
Nalbandian's appetite.
Davydenko's hair

He could be a top 10 player no?

Federer's tears ;)

Tankman
02-05-2009, 01:02 PM
bump for petar pan

yeah tomic can be extremely arrogant... however many tennis players are, and many of us here would argue this is the case for many of the top players. so if he can get the results, he can trash talk all he likes.

as for punishing his dad - this does nothing to punish his dad. barring his dad from tournaments would punish his dad. but all they would do by this is punish bernard.

Forehander
02-05-2009, 03:54 PM
this ban is really bs.

The ban is far from bs. I know him well here in Australia since I train down in Gold Coast alot for tennis. His attitude problem (including his dad's) is a HUGE issue here in tennis Australia. Absolutely no one can get along with him due to his arrogance. Of course in a way it is understandable, not only does he have such a crazy dad, but he's never even had proper highschool education before (never even been to grade 8, replaced by homeschooling. The media says grade 10 but that's load of bullshit trying to mask the truth). So it's no big surprise there that his EQ is incredibly low.

Tankman
02-05-2009, 04:03 PM
WOAH.

Well your first-hand experience means everything to us then. So in your opinion, do you think banning him is the right thing to do? Or is there a way to target his dad or something?

I wish I knew more about the vagaries of international tennis :lol:

And may I commend you on being up way late... although something tells me you're not in Australia right now :p

Forehander
02-06-2009, 12:17 AM
WOAH.

Well your first-hand experience means everything to us then. So in your opinion, do you think banning him is the right thing to do? Or is there a way to target his dad or something?

I wish I knew more about the vagaries of international tennis :lol:

And may I commend you on being up way late... although something tells me you're not in Australia right now :p

You're missing something. It's not only his dad's whose having the issue but Bernard himself with Tennis Australia. His disrespect towards the seniors of the association is absolutely incredible, I must even give him credit for that. The ban might be harsh yes, but it's not without a reason. To simply put, it's far from being bullshit.

And by the way, it was thursday night. Why would you be surprised if I'm up late lol? It's me who should doubt if you're from Australia or not right?

Tankman
02-06-2009, 02:49 AM
You're missing something. It's not only his dad's whose having the issue but Bernard himself with Tennis Australia. His disrespect towards the seniors of the association is absolutely incredible, I must even give him credit for that. The ban might be harsh yes, but it's not without a reason. To simply put, it's far from being bullshit.

And by the way, it was thursday night. Why would you be surprised if I'm up late lol? It's me who should doubt if you're from Australia or not right?

I know I'm missing something. Which is why you're filling in the blanks :p That's an incredible attitude from such a young guy. And :lol: I can say that now being what 2 years his senior.

So obviously the possibility of a ban is not w/o reason. and far from bs

anyway I understand what? 2-3am but not... wait you posted at 2:54am... ok I take back what I said :lol:

And I honestly had no idea it was thursday.... days of the week kinda mean nothing when you're stuck at home with chickenpox 24/7 :help:

Also I never doubted you were from Australia :p I doubted the fact that you were in the country, but I'm not that skeptical :p

Nathaliia
02-15-2009, 08:40 PM
Of course he won't get a ban, TA won't shoot in their own knee. It's not like they are having better junior prospects around.

Would be funny enough if Tomic senior followed the Damir Dokic footsteps and Tomic junior played for Croatia.

jmf07
02-16-2009, 12:33 AM
Would be funny enough if Tomic senior followed the Damir Dokic footsteps and Tomic junior played for Croatia.

That would be a dream come true and I am Australian

petar_pan
02-16-2009, 12:42 AM
Of course he won't get a ban, TA won't shoot in their own knee. It's not like they are having better junior prospects around.

Would be funny enough if Tomic senior followed the Damir Dokic footsteps and Tomic junior played for Croatia.

that is not impossible.that would be great.we in croatia,like more when croats from diasphora play for croatia, than croats from croatia.

Machiavelli
02-16-2009, 12:57 AM
He will for sure easily get wild cards for croatian challengers on clay in Zagreb and Rijeka if he wants them....

Matchu
02-16-2009, 03:32 AM
He will for sure easily get wild cards for croatian challengers on clay in Zagreb and Rijeka if he wants them....

Yeah he already got a wildcard into Rijeka last year. Perhaps he will get wildcards into ATP qualifying tournaments in Croatia?

jenks10s
02-16-2009, 03:58 AM
there's no way they'll give him a life time ban. That's crazy.

Dupuis2006
02-16-2009, 04:31 AM
is this a joke?

jmf07
02-16-2009, 05:12 AM
I know this is probably just another case of the media overhyping something but I can't help but think if this incident was more serious than first reported as it seems strange for the ITF to be considering a lifeban and it mustn't be complete BS as Tennis Australia have acknowledged that there is a chance he might receive one plus it must not be forgottern that there was a report filed to the police from the same tournament about one of the parents of a player which I am 95% sure would have been over this.

Did anyone actually see this incident or spoken to someone who saw it firsthand?

Raquel
03-10-2009, 12:25 AM
Not sure if this has been posted but he's just banned for a few more weeks, rather than life :p
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25163487-12428,00.html



BERNARD Tomic has been suspended and fined by the International Tennis Federation for walking off court in Perth in December.

Tomic, 16, has been barred from all ITF Pro Circuit tournaments until April 6 and fined $1560 for behaviour which was yesterday described as "major offences of aggravated behaviour".

The rising star claimed his first Challenger victory 10 days ago, lifting his ranking to 382nd in the world. The Gold Coast right-hander cannot contest any ITF Pro Circuit event until early next month, leaving the ATP World Tour as his only avenue of improving his ranking.

The ITF's penalty came after a long investigation into Tomic's contentious default at the Sorrento Challenge.

Tennis Australia last month vowed it would support any disciplinary measure doled out by the ITF - even if Tomic were barred from the Pro Tour for life.

Tomic was undoubtedly spared a heavier sanction after the ITF took into account the role of Tomic's father, John, in the furore.

John Tomic ordered his son off the court in protest against the officiating in Sorrento.

Tomic senior was aggrieved that Bernard's opponent, Marinko Matosevic, was allegedly foot faulting on a regular basis - and getting away with it.

After exchanging words with officials, John Tomic demanded his son leave the court, for which he was automatically defaulted.

John Tomic was ordered by TA to make a public apology for forcing his son to default the match and has privately described the experience as the most humiliating of his life.

Bernard Tomic was initially fined $1350 for walking off court during the second-round match.

Tennis Australia director of player development Craig Tiley last month said the Tomics had been counselled and he did not expect a repeat of the behaviour.

"John knows and Bernard knows that (defaulting) is against the rules," Tiley said. "You don't walk off the court without a reason. You get punished for that."

fast_clay
03-10-2009, 01:01 AM
that's pretty cool... the ban is p!ss weak so there is a good chance that tomic won't learn his learn-lesson and we'll have a new bad boy on the scene...

Chiseller
03-10-2009, 01:16 AM
In terms of drama, this guy has the potential to become the next Djokovic! :worship:

petar_pan
03-10-2009, 01:54 AM
good news.