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Was Roger Really The 2nd Best?

SheepleBuster
02-01-2009, 04:34 PM
I was just thinking, with the way Verdasco pushed Rafa the other day, he might have actually had a chance against Roger. He has a better serve and was way consistent this tournament. And let's not forget he showed more guts against Rafa than Roger (too bad he double faulted on that match point or they would have played for another couple of hours).

ys
02-01-2009, 04:41 PM
I was just thinking, with the way Verdasco pushed Rafa the other day, he might have actually had a chance against Roger. He has a better serve and was way consistent this tournament. And let's not forget he showed more guts against Rafa than Roger (too bad he double faulted on that match point or they would have played for another couple of hours).

Roger has no mental block against Verdasko.. Think about it. Roger has actually outplayed Rafa in each of the first four sets. Only some sudden severe mental seizures prevented him from winning it in 3 or 4. He could not win it in 5, really.

SheepleBuster
02-01-2009, 04:43 PM
I don't know about that. It's not really about a mental block but rather Roger's inability to find the right tactic. It's not as if Roger has never beaten Rafa. I'd say beating someone 6 times should give you some confidence. I really think the career trajectory of these guys changed when Roger put that forehand wide in that match in Rome (5 setter, Match point, clay). Had Roger beaten Rafa in that 5 setter, we have seen a different story between these two.

MacTheKnife
02-01-2009, 04:54 PM
Every match they've played lately has come down to two things, how well Fed serves, and how well he deals with Nadal's 2nd serve. Today he did #1 ok at times, but he was atrocious on dealing with Nadal's second serve.

Andi-M
02-01-2009, 05:01 PM
No Verdasco was clearly the 2nd best player this tournament. Bottom half of draw was weak Rodduck and Faker (who is in a bit of a state recently).

Murray or Tsonga would've presented a greater challenge to Fed than anyone in the whole of the bottom half.

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02-01-2009, 05:04 PM
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Bernard Black
02-01-2009, 05:06 PM
No Verdasco was clearly the 2nd best player this tournament. Bottom half of draw was weak Rodduck and Faker (who is in a bit of a state recently).

Murray or Tsonga would've presented a greater challenge to Fed than anyone in the whole of the bottom half.

Federer would have hammered Verdasco. Completely different match up which plays right into Federer's hands, he would have loved the pace Verdasco would have fed him - something he never gets from Nadal.

shotgun
02-01-2009, 05:07 PM
Federer should have lost to Berdych actually. He had no business being in the final today. Good for Rafa, I suppose.

SheepleBuster
02-01-2009, 05:14 PM
Federer would have hammered Verdasco. Completely different match up which plays right into Federer's hands, he would have loved the pace Verdasco would have fed him - something he never gets from Nadal.

Yeah. But Verdasco is a lefty with a much better serve and he was way too consistent. He did beat Murray, who has been a big problem for Roger. I thought Simon would pose the biggest problem to Rafa but he just couldn't take advantage of his set point.

finishingmove
02-01-2009, 05:21 PM
"Verdasco gave Nadal the sturnest test at AO 2009."

MacTheKnife
02-01-2009, 06:02 PM
Federer should have lost to Berdych actually. He had no business being in the final today. Good for Rafa, I suppose.

So it should have been Verdasco vs Berdych..

Castielo
02-01-2009, 11:07 PM
Obviously not

:Zaz:
02-01-2009, 11:14 PM
Nando did push Rogi at Kooyong, it did get pretty close, does that count for anything or don't exhibitions apply?

But I agree there wouldn't be such a mental hurdle in a Nando match

Crazy Girl
02-01-2009, 11:50 PM
What is this??????????This is.......

swebright
02-02-2009, 12:05 AM
"Verdasco gave Nadal the sturnest test at AO 2009."

True.

goldenlox
02-02-2009, 12:34 AM
You don't think Federer and his camp were rooting hard for Verdasco? That's his road to 15.
Playing finals against Murray and anyone else who can take out Nadal

fred perry
02-02-2009, 03:33 AM
we are lucky it was nadal and not the other guy. destruction on national tv is not pretty.

Corey Feldman
02-02-2009, 04:15 AM
the difference is Nadal played a helluva lot better v Fed than he did v Nando, any idiot can see that