Blarghman

01-27-2009, 06:51 AM

Here is a look at the best and worst progression of players 'playing to their seeds' in GS events in the open era. This covers 176 GS main draws. I have checked the forum and not seen something similar, so if I missed something, please let me know. And I apologize for any mistakes or typos, there are some fairly long lists that are quite similar and easy to mess up at times. :)

For this, I assume in an 'ideal' QF, for example, seeds 1-8 would all be playing.

Final (ideal: #1 v. #2)

Most:

2 - 40 times (8 AO, 7 RG, 13 W, 12 USO)

In the Open era, the longest streak of #1 v. #2 finals is at Wimbledon, where Federer twice faced Roddick and thrice Nadal.

Least:

0 - 56 times (12 AO, 23 RG, 9 W, 12 USO)

In the period between 1988 and 2005, the #1 and #2 seed both failed to make the RG final 15 times out of 18.

Most 'Surprising':

1996 Wimbledon (#17 Krajicek d. Washington)

Krajicek earned a seed only after seeds above him pulled out.

Semifinals (ideal: #1, #2, #3, #4)

Most:

4 - 15 times (4 AO, 4 RG, 2 W, 5 USO)

1969 USO (#1 Laver | #3 Roche | #2 Newcombe, #4 Ashe)

1982 USO (#2 Connors | #3 Lendl | #1 McEnroe, #4 Vilas)

1984 RG (#2 Lendl | #1 McEnroe | #3 Connors, #4 Wilander)

1985 RG (#4 Wilander | #2 Lendl | #1 McEnroe, #3 Connors)

1985 USO (#2 Lendl | #1 McEnroe | #3 Wilander, #4 Connors)

1988 AO (#3 Wilander | #4 Cash | #1 Lendl, #2 Edberg)

1992 USO (#2 Edberg | #3 Sampras | #1 Courier, #4 Chang)

1993 W (#1 Sampras | #3 Courier | #2 Edberg, #4 Becker)

1995 W (#2 Sampras | #3 Becker | #1 Agassi, #4 Ivanisevic)

2005 AO (#4 Safin | #3 Hewitt | #1 Federer, #2 Roddick)

2006 RG (#2 Nadal | #1 Federer | #3 Ljubicic, #4 Nalbandian)

2011 RG (#1 Nadal | #3 Federer | #3 Djokovic, #4 Murray)

2011 USO (#1 Djokovic | #2 Nadal | #3 Federer, #4 Murray)

2012 AO (#1 Djokovic | #2 Nadal | #3 Federer, #4 Murray)

2013 AO (#1 Djokovic | #3 Murray | #2 Federer, #4 Ferrer)

Least:

0 - 14 times (4 AO, 8 RG, 2 W)

1970 RG (#7 Kodec | #5 Franulovic | #8 Richey, #14 Goven)

1976 RG (#8 Panatta | #7 Solomon | #5 Ramirez, #6 Dibbs)

1983 RG (#6 Noah | #5 Wilander | #8 Higueras, Roger-Vasselin)

1992 W (#12 Agassi | #8 Ivanisevic | #5 Sampras, McEnroe)

1994 RG (#6 Bruguera | Berasategui | #7 Courier, Larsson)

1995 RG (#5 Muster | #6 Chang | #7 Bruguera, #9 Kafelnikov)

1996 W (#17 Kraijcek | Washington | #13 Martin, Stoltenberg)

1997 RG (Kuerten | #16 Bruguera | Dewulf, Rafter)

1998 AO (#6 Korda | #9 Rios | Kucera, Escude)

1998 RG (#12 Moya | #14 Corretja | #15 Mantilla, Pioline)

1999 AO (#10 Kafelnikov | Enqvist | Haas, Lapentti)

1999 RG (#13 Agassi | Medvedev | Hrbaty, Meligeni)

2001 AO (#6 Agassi | #15 Clement | #16 Grosjean, #12 Rafter)

2002 AO (#16 Johansson | #9 Safin | #7 Haas, #26 Novak)

Quarterfinals (ideal: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)

Most:

7 - 6 times (1 AO, 3 RG, 1 W, 1 USO))

1969 W (#1 Laver | #6 Newcombe | #2 Roche, #5 Ashe | #3 Okker, #7 Graebner, #8 Drysdale, Lutz)

1976 RG (#8 Panatta | #7 Solomon | #5 Ramirez, #6 Dibbs | #1 Borg, #2 Vilas, #3 Orantes, Taroczy)

1983 RG (#6 Noah | #5 Wilander | #8 Higueras, Roger-Vasselin | #1 Connors, #2 McEnroe, #3 Lendl, #4 Vilas)

1984 RG (#2 Lendl | #1 McEnroe | #3 Connors, #4 Wilander | #5 Arias, #6 Noah, #7 Gomez, #9 Sundstrom)

2009 AO (#1 Nadal | #2 Federer | #7 Roddick, #14 Verdasco | #3 Djokovic, #5 Tsonga, #6 Simon, #8 del Potro)

2012 USO (#3 Murray | #2 Djokovic | #4 Ferrer, #6 Berdych | #1 Federer, #7 Del Potro, #8 Tipsarevic, #12 Cilic)

In a crazy coincidence, the 83 and 84 RG share the record, and also appear in the semifinals listed above, but for different reasons: in 83, none of the top 4 seeds made the semis, and in 84 all 4 did. The 83 tournament's 4 losses from the top 4 seeds in the QF round is the only time this happened in the Open Era.

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Least:

1 - 7 times (2 AO, 2 RG, 1 W, 2 USO)

1968 W (#1 Laver | #15 Roche | #13 Ashe, Graebner | #9 Ralston, #10 Buchholz, #12 Okker, Moore)

1994 USO (Agassi | #4 Stich | #9 Martin, Novacek | #13 Muster, Yzaga, Bjorkman, Karbacher)

1997 RG (Kuerten | #16 Bruguera | DeWulf, Rafter | #3 Kafelnikov, Norman, Blanco, Arazi)

1997 USO (#13 Rafter | Rusedski | #2 Chang, Bjorkman | #10 Rios, #15 Korda, Kraijcek, Larsson)

1998 RG (#12 Moya | #14 Corretja | #15 Mantilla, Pioline | #3 Rios, Muster, DeWulf, Arazi)

1999 AO (#10 Kafelnikov | Enqvist | Haas, Lapentti | #7 Kucera, #15 Martin, Spadea, Rosset)

2002 AO (#16 Johansson | #9 Safin | #7 Haas, #26 Novak | Rios, Ferreira, Koubek, Bjorkman)

[LEFT]The 1997 RG tournament featured just two seeds in the last 8, while the 2002 Australian was a 32 seed tournament that had 4 unseeded players in the quarters.

Round of 16 (ideal: #1-#16)

I will mention, but with a caveat, the AOs of the early 70s, which boast strong records for the top 16, but with draws of only 64.

15 - 1970 AO (#4 Ashe | #12 Crealy | #6 Raltson, #8 Taylor | #1 Roche, #2 Newcombe, #3 Okker, #10 Ruffles | #5 Smith, #7 Pilic, #9 Lutz, #11 Stone, #13 Bowrey, #14 Alexander, #15 Battrick, Dent)

14 - 1971 AO (#2 Rosewall | #3 Ashe | #4 Okker, Lutz | #6 Emerson, #10 Riessen, #12 Drysdale, #15 Cox | #1 Laver, #5 Roche, #7 Newcombe, #8 Taylor, #11 Ralston, #14 Stolle, #15 El Shafei, Giltinan)

13 - 1974 AO (#2 Connors | #9 Dent | #3 Alexander, #8 Case | #1 Newcombe, #6 Dibley, #7 Parun, #10 Crealy, #12 Stone, #13 Giltinan, #15 Ball, Zednik | #4 Borg, #14 Phillips-Moore, N'Godrella, Hancock)

Most:

14 - 2 times (1 AO, 1 USO)

2007 AO (#1 Federer | #10 Gonzalez | #6 Roddick, #12 Haas | #2 Nadal, #3 Djokovic, #7 Robredo, Fish | #5 Blake, #8 Nalbandian, #9 Ancic, #13 Berdych, #14 Djokovic, #15 Murray, #16 Ferrer, #18 Gasquet)

2009 USO (#6 Del Potro | #1 Federer | #3 Nadal, #4 Djokovic | #10 Verdasco, #11 Gonzalez, #12 Sodrling, #16 Cilic | #2 Murray, #7 Tsonga, #8 Davydenko, #13 Monfils, #14 Robredo, #15 Stepanek, #24 Ferrero, Isner)

W Best - 13 - 1 time

1969 W (#1 Laver | #6 Newcombe | #2 Roche, #5 Ashe | #3 Okker, #7 Graebner, #8 Drysdale, Lutz | #9 Emerson, #10 Gimeno, #11 Stolle, #12 Gonzales, #15 Ralston, #16 Smith, Alexander, Wilson)

RG Best - 13 - 3 times

1970 RG (#7 Kodes | #5 Franulovic | #8 Richey, #14 Goven | #1 Nastase, #4 Ashe, #11 Jauffret, Mulligan | #3 Santana, #9 Metreveli, #10 Tiriac, #12 Hoad, #13 Orantes, #16 Crealey, Fillol Sr, Panatta)

1976 RG (#8 Panatta | #7 Solomon | #5 Ramirez, #6 Dibbs | #1 Borg, #2 Vilas, #3 Orantes, Taroczy | #4 Ashe, #10 Gottfried, #11 Fibak, #14 Fillol Sr, #15 Barazzutti, #16 Jauffret, Mignot, Franulovic)

1988 RG (#3 Wilander | #11 Leconte | #9 Agassi, Svensson | #1 Lendl, #12 Sanchez, #14 Chesnokov, #15 Perez-Roldan | #2 Edberg, #4 Cash, #5 Becker, #6 Noah, #7 Carlsson, #16 McEnroe, Agenor, Gustafsson)

Least:

2 - 1 time (1 W)

2002 W (#1 Hewitt | #28 Nalbandian | #4 Henman, #27 Malisse | #18 Schalken, #22 Lapentti, Sa, Krajicek | #23 Rusedski, Youzhny, Vacek, Kratochvil, Lopez, Philippoussis, Arthurs, Clement)

AO Least - 4 - 1 time

1998 AO (#6 Korda | #9 Rios | Kucera, Escude | #1 Sampras, #4 Bjorkman, Kiefer, Berasategui | Arazi, Fromberg, Black, Pioline, Woodbridge, Raoux, Roux, Agassi)

RG Least - 4 - 1 time

2008 RG (#2 Nadal | #1 Federer | #3 Djokovic, Monfils | #5 Ferrer, #19 Almagro, #24 Gonzalez, Gulbis | #18 Mathieu, #21 Stepanek, #22 Verdasco, #28 Ljubicic, Benneteau, Ginepri, Llodra, Chardy)

USO Least - 5 - 3 times

1971 USO (#2 Smith | Kodes | #3 Ashe, #4 Okker | #5 Riessen, #7 Graebner, Froehling, Osborne | Lutz, Carmichael, Alexander, Orantes, Moore, Taylor, Pilic, Holecek)

1998 USO (#2 Wilander | #1 Lendl | #4 Agassi, Cahill | #3 Edberg, #6 Connors, Rostagno, Krickstein, Sanchez | Hlasek, Agenor, Chang, Lozano, Laurendeau, Frawley, Woodforde)

2004 USO (#1 Federer | #4 Hewitt | #5 Henman, #28 Johansson | #2 Roddick, #6 Agassi, #22 Hrbaty, Haas | #18 Robredo, #19 Kiefer, Pavel, Sargsian, Rochus, Berdych, Beck, Llodra)

Plaese let me know if there are any errors or things missing :wavey:

For this, I assume in an 'ideal' QF, for example, seeds 1-8 would all be playing.

Final (ideal: #1 v. #2)

Most:

2 - 40 times (8 AO, 7 RG, 13 W, 12 USO)

In the Open era, the longest streak of #1 v. #2 finals is at Wimbledon, where Federer twice faced Roddick and thrice Nadal.

Least:

0 - 56 times (12 AO, 23 RG, 9 W, 12 USO)

In the period between 1988 and 2005, the #1 and #2 seed both failed to make the RG final 15 times out of 18.

Most 'Surprising':

1996 Wimbledon (#17 Krajicek d. Washington)

Krajicek earned a seed only after seeds above him pulled out.

Semifinals (ideal: #1, #2, #3, #4)

Most:

4 - 15 times (4 AO, 4 RG, 2 W, 5 USO)

1969 USO (#1 Laver | #3 Roche | #2 Newcombe, #4 Ashe)

1982 USO (#2 Connors | #3 Lendl | #1 McEnroe, #4 Vilas)

1984 RG (#2 Lendl | #1 McEnroe | #3 Connors, #4 Wilander)

1985 RG (#4 Wilander | #2 Lendl | #1 McEnroe, #3 Connors)

1985 USO (#2 Lendl | #1 McEnroe | #3 Wilander, #4 Connors)

1988 AO (#3 Wilander | #4 Cash | #1 Lendl, #2 Edberg)

1992 USO (#2 Edberg | #3 Sampras | #1 Courier, #4 Chang)

1993 W (#1 Sampras | #3 Courier | #2 Edberg, #4 Becker)

1995 W (#2 Sampras | #3 Becker | #1 Agassi, #4 Ivanisevic)

2005 AO (#4 Safin | #3 Hewitt | #1 Federer, #2 Roddick)

2006 RG (#2 Nadal | #1 Federer | #3 Ljubicic, #4 Nalbandian)

2011 RG (#1 Nadal | #3 Federer | #3 Djokovic, #4 Murray)

2011 USO (#1 Djokovic | #2 Nadal | #3 Federer, #4 Murray)

2012 AO (#1 Djokovic | #2 Nadal | #3 Federer, #4 Murray)

2013 AO (#1 Djokovic | #3 Murray | #2 Federer, #4 Ferrer)

Least:

0 - 14 times (4 AO, 8 RG, 2 W)

1970 RG (#7 Kodec | #5 Franulovic | #8 Richey, #14 Goven)

1976 RG (#8 Panatta | #7 Solomon | #5 Ramirez, #6 Dibbs)

1983 RG (#6 Noah | #5 Wilander | #8 Higueras, Roger-Vasselin)

1992 W (#12 Agassi | #8 Ivanisevic | #5 Sampras, McEnroe)

1994 RG (#6 Bruguera | Berasategui | #7 Courier, Larsson)

1995 RG (#5 Muster | #6 Chang | #7 Bruguera, #9 Kafelnikov)

1996 W (#17 Kraijcek | Washington | #13 Martin, Stoltenberg)

1997 RG (Kuerten | #16 Bruguera | Dewulf, Rafter)

1998 AO (#6 Korda | #9 Rios | Kucera, Escude)

1998 RG (#12 Moya | #14 Corretja | #15 Mantilla, Pioline)

1999 AO (#10 Kafelnikov | Enqvist | Haas, Lapentti)

1999 RG (#13 Agassi | Medvedev | Hrbaty, Meligeni)

2001 AO (#6 Agassi | #15 Clement | #16 Grosjean, #12 Rafter)

2002 AO (#16 Johansson | #9 Safin | #7 Haas, #26 Novak)

Quarterfinals (ideal: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)

Most:

7 - 6 times (1 AO, 3 RG, 1 W, 1 USO))

1969 W (#1 Laver | #6 Newcombe | #2 Roche, #5 Ashe | #3 Okker, #7 Graebner, #8 Drysdale, Lutz)

1976 RG (#8 Panatta | #7 Solomon | #5 Ramirez, #6 Dibbs | #1 Borg, #2 Vilas, #3 Orantes, Taroczy)

1983 RG (#6 Noah | #5 Wilander | #8 Higueras, Roger-Vasselin | #1 Connors, #2 McEnroe, #3 Lendl, #4 Vilas)

1984 RG (#2 Lendl | #1 McEnroe | #3 Connors, #4 Wilander | #5 Arias, #6 Noah, #7 Gomez, #9 Sundstrom)

2009 AO (#1 Nadal | #2 Federer | #7 Roddick, #14 Verdasco | #3 Djokovic, #5 Tsonga, #6 Simon, #8 del Potro)

2012 USO (#3 Murray | #2 Djokovic | #4 Ferrer, #6 Berdych | #1 Federer, #7 Del Potro, #8 Tipsarevic, #12 Cilic)

In a crazy coincidence, the 83 and 84 RG share the record, and also appear in the semifinals listed above, but for different reasons: in 83, none of the top 4 seeds made the semis, and in 84 all 4 did. The 83 tournament's 4 losses from the top 4 seeds in the QF round is the only time this happened in the Open Era.

/LEFT]

Least:

1 - 7 times (2 AO, 2 RG, 1 W, 2 USO)

1968 W (#1 Laver | #15 Roche | #13 Ashe, Graebner | #9 Ralston, #10 Buchholz, #12 Okker, Moore)

1994 USO (Agassi | #4 Stich | #9 Martin, Novacek | #13 Muster, Yzaga, Bjorkman, Karbacher)

1997 RG (Kuerten | #16 Bruguera | DeWulf, Rafter | #3 Kafelnikov, Norman, Blanco, Arazi)

1997 USO (#13 Rafter | Rusedski | #2 Chang, Bjorkman | #10 Rios, #15 Korda, Kraijcek, Larsson)

1998 RG (#12 Moya | #14 Corretja | #15 Mantilla, Pioline | #3 Rios, Muster, DeWulf, Arazi)

1999 AO (#10 Kafelnikov | Enqvist | Haas, Lapentti | #7 Kucera, #15 Martin, Spadea, Rosset)

2002 AO (#16 Johansson | #9 Safin | #7 Haas, #26 Novak | Rios, Ferreira, Koubek, Bjorkman)

[LEFT]The 1997 RG tournament featured just two seeds in the last 8, while the 2002 Australian was a 32 seed tournament that had 4 unseeded players in the quarters.

Round of 16 (ideal: #1-#16)

I will mention, but with a caveat, the AOs of the early 70s, which boast strong records for the top 16, but with draws of only 64.

15 - 1970 AO (#4 Ashe | #12 Crealy | #6 Raltson, #8 Taylor | #1 Roche, #2 Newcombe, #3 Okker, #10 Ruffles | #5 Smith, #7 Pilic, #9 Lutz, #11 Stone, #13 Bowrey, #14 Alexander, #15 Battrick, Dent)

14 - 1971 AO (#2 Rosewall | #3 Ashe | #4 Okker, Lutz | #6 Emerson, #10 Riessen, #12 Drysdale, #15 Cox | #1 Laver, #5 Roche, #7 Newcombe, #8 Taylor, #11 Ralston, #14 Stolle, #15 El Shafei, Giltinan)

13 - 1974 AO (#2 Connors | #9 Dent | #3 Alexander, #8 Case | #1 Newcombe, #6 Dibley, #7 Parun, #10 Crealy, #12 Stone, #13 Giltinan, #15 Ball, Zednik | #4 Borg, #14 Phillips-Moore, N'Godrella, Hancock)

Most:

14 - 2 times (1 AO, 1 USO)

2007 AO (#1 Federer | #10 Gonzalez | #6 Roddick, #12 Haas | #2 Nadal, #3 Djokovic, #7 Robredo, Fish | #5 Blake, #8 Nalbandian, #9 Ancic, #13 Berdych, #14 Djokovic, #15 Murray, #16 Ferrer, #18 Gasquet)

2009 USO (#6 Del Potro | #1 Federer | #3 Nadal, #4 Djokovic | #10 Verdasco, #11 Gonzalez, #12 Sodrling, #16 Cilic | #2 Murray, #7 Tsonga, #8 Davydenko, #13 Monfils, #14 Robredo, #15 Stepanek, #24 Ferrero, Isner)

W Best - 13 - 1 time

1969 W (#1 Laver | #6 Newcombe | #2 Roche, #5 Ashe | #3 Okker, #7 Graebner, #8 Drysdale, Lutz | #9 Emerson, #10 Gimeno, #11 Stolle, #12 Gonzales, #15 Ralston, #16 Smith, Alexander, Wilson)

RG Best - 13 - 3 times

1970 RG (#7 Kodes | #5 Franulovic | #8 Richey, #14 Goven | #1 Nastase, #4 Ashe, #11 Jauffret, Mulligan | #3 Santana, #9 Metreveli, #10 Tiriac, #12 Hoad, #13 Orantes, #16 Crealey, Fillol Sr, Panatta)

1976 RG (#8 Panatta | #7 Solomon | #5 Ramirez, #6 Dibbs | #1 Borg, #2 Vilas, #3 Orantes, Taroczy | #4 Ashe, #10 Gottfried, #11 Fibak, #14 Fillol Sr, #15 Barazzutti, #16 Jauffret, Mignot, Franulovic)

1988 RG (#3 Wilander | #11 Leconte | #9 Agassi, Svensson | #1 Lendl, #12 Sanchez, #14 Chesnokov, #15 Perez-Roldan | #2 Edberg, #4 Cash, #5 Becker, #6 Noah, #7 Carlsson, #16 McEnroe, Agenor, Gustafsson)

Least:

2 - 1 time (1 W)

2002 W (#1 Hewitt | #28 Nalbandian | #4 Henman, #27 Malisse | #18 Schalken, #22 Lapentti, Sa, Krajicek | #23 Rusedski, Youzhny, Vacek, Kratochvil, Lopez, Philippoussis, Arthurs, Clement)

AO Least - 4 - 1 time

1998 AO (#6 Korda | #9 Rios | Kucera, Escude | #1 Sampras, #4 Bjorkman, Kiefer, Berasategui | Arazi, Fromberg, Black, Pioline, Woodbridge, Raoux, Roux, Agassi)

RG Least - 4 - 1 time

2008 RG (#2 Nadal | #1 Federer | #3 Djokovic, Monfils | #5 Ferrer, #19 Almagro, #24 Gonzalez, Gulbis | #18 Mathieu, #21 Stepanek, #22 Verdasco, #28 Ljubicic, Benneteau, Ginepri, Llodra, Chardy)

USO Least - 5 - 3 times

1971 USO (#2 Smith | Kodes | #3 Ashe, #4 Okker | #5 Riessen, #7 Graebner, Froehling, Osborne | Lutz, Carmichael, Alexander, Orantes, Moore, Taylor, Pilic, Holecek)

1998 USO (#2 Wilander | #1 Lendl | #4 Agassi, Cahill | #3 Edberg, #6 Connors, Rostagno, Krickstein, Sanchez | Hlasek, Agenor, Chang, Lozano, Laurendeau, Frawley, Woodforde)

2004 USO (#1 Federer | #4 Hewitt | #5 Henman, #28 Johansson | #2 Roddick, #6 Agassi, #22 Hrbaty, Haas | #18 Robredo, #19 Kiefer, Pavel, Sargsian, Rochus, Berdych, Beck, Llodra)

Plaese let me know if there are any errors or things missing :wavey: