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PYW Management 2009 - April to June tournaments available

FilipeMB
01-24-2009, 11:48 PM
Please the one who wants step up here to help. And all players are invited to suggest and discuss improvements and change in the PYW game.

2009 PYW Calendar
April


Date Tournament Manager

30/3/2009 Napoli CH FilipeMB
30/3/2009 St. Brieuc CH FilipeMB
30/3/2009 USA F7 d_s
30/3/2009 10k Future d_s


6/4/2009 Casablanca Caio/Filipe
6/4/2009 Houston Caio/Filipe
6/4/2009 Athens CH Caio
6/4/2009 Baton Rouge CH Ozone/Mens Clay Court
6/4/2009 Monza CH Caio
6/4/2009 San Luis Potosi Caio
6/4/2009 Russia F1 d_s
6/4/2009 Korea F1 d_s
6/4/2009 USA F8 d_s
6/4/2009 10k Future d_s




13/04/2009 Monte Carlo Ozone
13/04/2009 Johannesburg CH FilipeMB
13/04/2009 Mexico City CH FilipeMB
13/04/2009 Rome CH FilipeMB
13/04/2009 Russia F2 d_s
13/04/2009 Korea F2 d_s
13/04/2009 France F6 d_s
13/04/2009 Uzbekistan F1 d_s
13/04/2009 10k Future d_s


20/04/2009 Barcelona Filipe/Caio
20/04/2009 East London CH Ozone/Mens Clay Court
20/04/2009 Puebla CH Ozone/Mens Clay Court
20/04/2009 Rome 2 CH Ozone/Mens Clay Court
20/04/2009 Sofia CH Ozone/Mens Clay Court
20/04/2009 Tallahasse CH Ozone/Mens Clay Court
20/04/2009 Korea F3 d_s
20/04/2009 France F7 d_s
20/04/2009 India F3 d_s
20/04/2009 Italy F7 d_s
20/04/2009 Uzbekistan F2 d_s
20/04/2009 10k Future d_s

27/4/2009 Rome chowdahead25
27/4/2009 Ostrava CH
27/4/2009 Pereira CH
27/4/2009 Rhodes CH
27/4/2009 Tenerife CH
27/4/2009 Tunis CH
27/4/2009 Korea F4 d_s
27/4/2009 India F4 d_s
27/4/2009 Italy F8 d_s
27/4/2009 Mexico F3 d_s
27/4/2009 Australia F3 d_s
27/4/2009 10k Future d_s



May


Date Tournament Manager
4/5/2009 Belgrade chowdahead25
4/5/2009 Estoril
4/5/2009 Munich
4/5/2009 Ramat Hasharon Ozone/Mens Clay Court
4/5/2009 San Remo CH Ozone/Mens Clay Court
4/5/2009 Savannah CH Ozone/Mens Clay Court
4/5/2009 Iran F1 d_s
4/5/2009 Italy F9 d_s
4/5/2009 China F3 d_s
4/5/2009 Australia F4 d_s
4/5/2009 10k Future d_s

11/5/2009 Madrid
11/5/2009 Bourdeaux CH
11/5/2009 Busan CH
11/5/2009 Florianopolis FilipeMB
11/5/2009 Izmir CH
11/5/2009 Sarasota CH Ozone/Mens Clay Court
11/5/2009 Zagreb CH
11/5/2009 Iran F2 d_s
11/5/2009 Italy F10 d_s
11/5/2009 China F4 d_s
11/5/2009 Brazil F2 d_s
11/5/2009 10k Future d_s

18/5/2005 Portschach Ozone
18/5/2005 Cremona CH
18/5/2005 Fergana CH
18/5/2005 Italy F11 d_s
18/5/2005 Brazil F3 d_s
18/5/2005 Poland F1 d_s
18/5/2005 Kuwait F1 d_s
18/5/2005 10k Future d_s

25/5/2005 Roland Garros Ozone/Mens Clay Court
25/5/2005 Alessandria CH
25/5/2005 Carson CH
25/5/2005 Karlsruhe CH
25/5/2005 Italy F12 d_s
25/5/2005 Kuwait F2 d_s
25/5/2005 Venezuela F3 d_s
25/5/2005 10k Future d_s



June


Date Tournament Manager
1/6/2009 Furth CH
1/6/2009 Nottingham CH
1/6/2009 Prostejov CH
1/6/2009 Yuba City CH
1/6/2009 Spain F19 d_s
1/6/2009 10k Future d_s

8/6/2009 Halle Ozone
8/6/2009 London chowdahead25
8/6/2009 Warsaw Ozone
8/6/2009 Kosice CH
8/6/2009 Lugano CH
8/6/2009 USA F12 d_s
8/6/2009 Netherlands F1 d_s
8/6/2009 10k Future d_s

15/6/2009 s-Hertogenbosch Ozone
15/6/2009 Eastbourne chowdahead25
15/6/2009 Bytom CH
15/6/2009 Milan CH
15/6/2009 USA F13 d_s
15/6/2009 Netherlands F2 d_s
15/6/2009 Germany F6 d_s
15/6/2009 France F8 d_s
15/6/2009 Italy F15 d_s
15/6/2009 Ireland F1 d_s
15/6/2009 Norway F1 d_s
15/6/2009 10k Future d_s

22/6/2009 Wimbledon Ozone/Mens Clay Court
22/6/2009 Constanta CH
22/6/2009 Reggio Emilia CH
22/6/2009 Netherlands F3 d_s
22/6/2009 France F9 d_s
22/6/2009 Italy F16 d_s
22/6/2009 Ireland F2 d_s
22/6/2009 Norway F2 d_s
22/6/2009 USA F14 d_s
22/6/2009 10k Future d_s

29/6/2009 Braunschweig CH
29/6/2009 Rijeka CH
29/6/2009 Turin CH
29/6/2009 France F10 d_s
29/6/2009 Italy F17 d_s
29/6/2009 Germany F8 d_s
29/6/2009 10k Future d_s

http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.atptennis.com/en/tournaments/fullcalendar/challengers2009.pdf

Baghdatis#1
01-24-2009, 11:50 PM
good work here ;)
do you think u can run a CH next week?
We have people running Carson, but we need Helibronn and Bucramanga

FilipeMB
01-25-2009, 12:01 AM
I can, I prefer to let people choose if they want to run any tournament then, if no one wants, then I step up to manage.

10K Futures Qualifier
01-25-2009, 02:07 AM
Ozone (No Lets) ad I are running all of the U.S. challengers. So you can put us down in the code for all of them.

FilipeMB
01-25-2009, 10:49 AM
Ozone (No Lets) ad I are running all of the U.S. challengers. So you can put us down in the code for all of them.

Due to CooCooCachoo desire to not mess with Futures and Challengers forum, we are going to run all the Challengers in the same week in the same thread and all the futures in the same week in the same thread. :wavey:
For me, thread's starter does not matter but who is going to start the thread must be knowing this and must open the topic making the two tournaments with manager (Bucamaranga me, Carson you and Ozone) in the same thread.

d_s
01-26-2009, 02:39 AM
I can do Heilbronn and a couple of the Futures as well :)

(maybe Mexico F1 and USA F3, but you don't have the USA one on there :confused:)

d_s
01-26-2009, 03:31 AM
Actually I just noticed that you're already doing Heilbronn, so I don't mind running more Future tournaments. Should there be one thread for all the Futures for the whole tournament like the Challengers?

Baghdatis#1
01-26-2009, 03:39 AM
can i do the Morrocco F1?

Baghdatis#1
01-26-2009, 03:39 AM
I think we should have a sub-forum for PYW Challengers and another 1 for PYW Futures.

FilipeMB
01-26-2009, 12:15 PM
I think we should have a sub-forum for PYW Challengers and another 1 for PYW Futures.

here in PYW forum?
because in Challengers and Futures forum, CooCooCachoo already said no. :sad:

FilipeMB
01-26-2009, 12:16 PM
Actually I just noticed that you're already doing Heilbronn, so I don't mind running more Future tournaments. Should there be one thread for all the Futures for the whole tournament like the Challengers?

no, please run Heilbronn if you want to because then I would only run AO and Bucamaranga this week. The game would have more managers and the work would be better split.
but, yes, one thread for all the futures and for whole tournament, unfortunately. :)

FilipeMB
01-26-2009, 12:17 PM
can i do the Morrocco F1?

for sure, it's yours.

Baghdatis#1
01-26-2009, 08:13 PM
Where do I post the thread?

FilipeMB
01-27-2009, 01:01 AM
Where do I post the thread?

in Futures forum but please wait to the draws to be released, if they aren't, which I guess are not.

Baghdatis#1
01-27-2009, 01:10 AM
^They have been released. I just want to run the Morocco one. Can I do that or no? I think we need a forum for challengers and a forum for futures.

Baghdatis#1
01-27-2009, 01:16 AM
I'll make a thread for all of the futures, but I'll only count the scores for the one in Morocco.

FilipeMB
01-27-2009, 01:22 AM
I'll make a thread for all of the futures, but I'll only count the scores for the one in Morocco.

OK, I count for Germany F4

Baghdatis#1
01-27-2009, 01:27 AM
I think you should make the thread, since you are running most of them, and I can't edit your posts to update draws, but you can;).

FilipeMB
01-27-2009, 01:29 AM
I think you should make the thread, since you are running most of them, and I can't edit your posts to update draws, but you can;).

I'll only manage one future but :confused:

Baghdatis#1
01-27-2009, 01:34 AM
Well, I'll try my best in counting votes. The threads have to be up. Draws can be found here:
http://www.itftennis.com/mens/

d_s
01-27-2009, 02:06 AM
If it's okay, I can open the thread for the PYW Futures since I'll be able to run a few of the tournaments but I'll need help.

and also, I was thinking for Futures, the scores should be counted as one normal set (up to 6) but win by 2 (so instead of 7-6, it'll keep going until the player wins by 2 votes)

Baghdatis#1
01-27-2009, 02:13 AM
^I like sudden death, so leave it as it is, unless others disagree:shrug:

d_s
01-27-2009, 02:24 AM
Well whatever is fine with me, I'm just wondering if we have sudden death will the matches go by too fast?

d_s
01-27-2009, 02:44 AM
and another question, for Futures we're using the same ranking points as ATP right?

FilipeMB
01-27-2009, 09:59 AM
and another question, for Futures we're using the same ranking points as ATP right?

yes.
About sudden death, if matches keep going too fast, then yes :wavey: imho :)

Caio_Brasil
01-27-2009, 02:27 PM
I have to agree with what Ozone wrote in the futures thread. I think it's too much making all the tournamets. It will be too much work to the managers (there are weeks with almost 20 tournaments) and we know very few future players anyway. I barely knew the player that I voted for today, almost only the latin-american guys and one or other from the rest of the world.

We could make something different for futures or not do it. Maybe everyone can pick his/her favourite player from the draw and the player with most votes is the champion :shrug:

what do you guys think?

FilipeMB
01-27-2009, 03:32 PM
:)I have to agree with what Ozone wrote in the futures thread. I think it's too much making all the tournamets. It will be too much work to the managers (there are weeks with almost 20 tournaments) and we know very few future players anyway. I barely knew the player that I voted for today, almost only the latin-american guys and one or other from the rest of the world.



It wasn't my intent to run all the tournaments in any week. I mean, i selected some futures, that I made available for everyone else to pick one to manage and I pick one myself. If only me and him had step over to help, then only our two tournaments would be run.

d_s post all the draws for this week but we should set, as you said Caio, for now on, a limit of futures every week.

For this week, I choose the ones who seemed with more interesing entry list: Prodon, Ouahab, Aldi, Balleret @ Morocco F1, Nunez, Witten, Todero, Sabau, Paul @ USA F3, Satschko, Monroe, Elias @ Mexico F1, Rosol, Goodall, Bemelmans, Minar

but running some tournaments like Spain F3, Israel F2, Guatemala F1, France F1, Austria F2 is totally freak in any week even if managers enough.


We could make something different for futures or not do it. Maybe everyone can pick his/her favourite player from the draw and the player with most votes is the champion :shrug:

what do you guys think?
it's a good idea also

d_s
01-27-2009, 11:45 PM
Yeah I also think it might be too much to do all the Futures every week :p
It'd also be a lot of work to do the rankings!

I think it might be better to do only 10k+H and higher tournaments (and maybe just one or two 10ks at most a week)

FilipeMB
01-28-2009, 12:14 AM
all futures are crazyness, I will take about an hour to update the scores right now :p
the ranking, myself and Salum split the work so it will be as always published on next monday. probably next week we'll run only one or two futures as there will be 3 main tour tournaments and 3 challengers.
If anyone wants to manage main tour tourneys, just say here.

d_s
01-28-2009, 12:19 AM
Do you think we should leave all the Futures for this week or take out all the 10ks?

FilipeMB
01-28-2009, 12:39 AM
Do you think we should leave all the Futures for this week or take out all the 10ks?

take out the 10ks, imho,

Baghdatis#1
01-28-2009, 12:45 AM
all futures are crazyness, I will take about an hour to update the scores right now :p
the ranking, myself and Salum split the work so it will be as always published on next monday. probably next week we'll run only one or two futures as there will be 3 main tour tournaments and 3 challengers.
If anyone wants to manage main tour tourneys, just say here.

Sexysova and AustralianDream_2009 will run all ATP tourneys ;)

FilipeMB
01-28-2009, 12:48 AM
Sexysova and AustralianDream_2009 will run all ATP tourneys ;)

as far as I am concerned, Sexysova left managing anything related to PYW. :wavey:

d_s
01-28-2009, 02:33 AM
I have taken out all the 10k futures.

This is just an idea,
if there are people that want to have certain 10k tournaments, or if there are some weeks with no 15ks, every week we can set up a poll with all 10k tournaments and the top 2 tournaments will be included for PYW. What does everyone think?

FilipeMB
02-01-2009, 12:32 PM
good idea d_s,
anybody wants to manage any of next week tourneys?

Caio_Brasil
02-01-2009, 12:35 PM
I can run next week's futures, it will be my last week off

just tell me what tourneys they will be :wavey:

FilipeMB
02-01-2009, 12:54 PM
I think of Egpyt F2 (http://www.itftennis.com/mens/tournaments/tournamentacceptancelist.asp?tournament=1100019235&event=&order=Position), France F2 (http://www.itftennis.com/mens/tournaments/tournamentacceptancelist.asp?tournament=1100019000&event=&order=Position) and Colombia F1 (http://www.itftennis.com/mens/tournaments/tournamentacceptancelist.asp?tournament=1100019235&event=&order=Position).
What do you think?

Caio_Brasil
02-01-2009, 03:03 PM
Fine :yeah:

Will the futures have one thread per week or one for the whole year?

FilipeMB
02-01-2009, 03:16 PM
I think so if we stay on Futures forum.

Caio_Brasil
02-01-2009, 03:21 PM
Ok.

I will finish Zagreb qualy first round in 10 minutes, is that ok? :wavey:

Not many people are voting it seems :scared:

FilipeMB
02-01-2009, 03:27 PM
yep, Australian Open and forum's slowness may be helping to this to happen..

I'm questioning myself if we should run the challengers and futures here in PYW forum. Would it be better?

Caio_Brasil
02-01-2009, 03:30 PM
I don't think so. Less people would vote IMO.

FilipeMB
02-01-2009, 03:34 PM
yep.. let's see how challengers perform this week now in order to see if we have to make some changes.

d_s
02-01-2009, 04:21 PM
So those are the 3 tournaments for Futures? I thought it was all the 15ks

FilipeMB
02-01-2009, 04:31 PM
I am open to suggestions, I said those because I think they have interesing entry list and are different from the ones we ran this week.
If you have any suggestions, please let us know

d_s
02-02-2009, 12:14 AM
Well I had my suggestion above where for Futures we can do all the 15ks each week, and add a poll with all the 10ks with the top 1 (or 2) tournaments also included for the PYW.

I think this way it's more fair to decide which tournament to use. If you just look at the entry list, people's opinions on which tournament has a more interesting entry list will be different.

and also I don't mind running the Futures tournaments every week :)

FilipeMB
02-02-2009, 12:31 AM
you did a pretty good job this week, btw ;)

for me, as long as some futures are ran, I don't care which one as long there is somebody to run and people interesed to vote :)

d_s
02-02-2009, 12:55 AM
Thanks :)

I think I'm going to open up the thread for next week with the poll and we can just try it out and see how it goes. If it doesn't work out or if people don't like it, we can change it.

Caio_Brasil
02-02-2009, 11:11 AM
Outstanding job with the futures, d_s :worship:

d_s
02-03-2009, 05:20 AM
Thanks Caio Brasil :)

and Dwight Schrute, I have a question about the PYW tour events. For the qualifiers, are they just being placed randomly, or is it supposed to follow the actual draw?

FilipeMB
02-03-2009, 12:48 PM
Thanks Caio Brasil :)

and Dwight Schrute, I have a question about the PYW tour events. For the qualifiers, are they just being placed randomly, or is it supposed to follow the actual draw?

when available, they will be in the correct place in actual draw. when not available at the time the topic is opened, then I ran random.org to place them.

NyGeL
02-03-2009, 03:33 PM
Nice to see all of you doing your best to run the game including Futures and Challengers when last year we couldn't even finish a Grand Slam.

One thing that I don't like is: When a staffer says "vote again", he shouldn't be the one to do it first or at least he should wait some hours becouse if not, it will seems that he is doing it to finish his favorite player match or something like that.

Also, I don't know how many voters you have at Futures/Challengers but instead of having like 3 vote again per round you could try making it best of 1 set.

Caio_Brasil
02-03-2009, 03:51 PM
Nice to see all of you doing your best to run the game including Futures and Challengers when last year we couldn't even finish a Grand Slam.

One thing that I don't like is: When a staffer says "vote again", he shouldn't be the one to do it first or at least he should wait some hours becouse if not, it will seems that he is doing it to finish his favorite player match or something like that.

Also, I don't know how many voters you have at Futures/Challengers but instead of having like 3 vote again per round you could try making it best of 1 set.

I agree with your point about the vote again. Maybe 3 voters after the manager saying vote again would be ok.

The futures already are best of 1 set and it's working pretty well.

About the challengers, there were something like 15 voters in each round. So a good idea would be doing all the matches super-tiebreakers (the best of 10 games). This way it would probably be only 1 vote again and long 3-setters wouldn't exist. When tied at 9 it would go 11 and so on.

What do you guys think?

FilipeMB
02-03-2009, 04:47 PM
Nice to see all of you doing your best to run the game including Futures and Challengers when last year we couldn't even finish a Grand Slam.

One thing that I don't like is: When a staffer says "vote again", he shouldn't be the one to do it first or at least he should wait some hours becouse if not, it will seems that he is doing it to finish his favorite player match or something like that.

Also, I don't know how many voters you have at Futures/Challengers but instead of having like 3 vote again per round you could try making it best of 1 set.

I agree with vote again, I usually only call this when needed to finish a round and, in vote again, does not represent my favorite but sometimes the players closer to end quickly the match.
but that`s ok and I agree with it. maybe compiling rules for management would be good
I agree with Caio and you about super tie-break for challengers, 3-sets have been difficult to end. I dont know how much the problems in MTF server and AO had troubled this but...

Caio_Brasil
02-03-2009, 08:08 PM
As FilipeMB said, we don't know how much did the MTF slowly and the AO interfered, so I think we should give the 3-setters another go this week. If the number of voters continue the same we move to super tiebreak :yeah:

Caio_Brasil
02-05-2009, 12:28 PM
First round of the challengers took so long again, so I decided to implement the match tiebreak already in the second round. I think it will be better for the challengers :yeah:

FilipeMB
02-05-2009, 04:18 PM
Wise decision Caio.
I'm sorry about ranking delay. I'm without my computer (it's being fixed; usb problems) and the ranking updated file is there. The ranking will be posted today, as speedly as I get my PC back.

Caio_Brasil
02-07-2009, 01:44 AM
Do you guys think we should make qualifyings 10-point tiebreakers, like in challengers?

FilipeMB
02-07-2009, 02:16 AM
or one set-only, both ways works fine IMHO

Caio_Brasil
02-07-2009, 03:03 AM
Let's do it one set :yeah: the favourite will win and it won't take too long.

Deal? :wavey:

jcreback
02-07-2009, 04:09 AM
If I may throw an opinion out there, I think qualies for ATP events a Proset (first to 8). Still won't go as long as the 10, but still longer than a tent.

Caio_Brasil
02-07-2009, 02:31 PM
If I may throw an opinion out there, I think qualies for ATP events a Proset (first to 8). Still won't go as long as the 10, but still longer than a tent.

I liked that :yeah: I think we should do it.

Caio_Brasil
02-07-2009, 02:42 PM
Actually I kinda changed my mind :tape:

Judging from the number of voters until now I think a 10-point set would be ok :yeah:

Let's do this week 10 points, if it doesn't work we change to 8 :)

jcreback
02-07-2009, 04:51 PM
Sounds good. I do prefer 10 to 8, I just thought you were going to push to 6 games only, and I would rather have more games.

FilipeMB
02-08-2009, 11:32 PM
We finished tourneys in time this week :worship:

Caio_Brasil
02-08-2009, 11:35 PM
It's getting better :)

Btw, I will not be able to open qualifying threads next week as I was doing. :wavey: Actually, the best thing to do is that anyone opens the threads when draws are avalilable, this way no one will be stuck with the job :yeah:

FilipeMB
02-08-2009, 11:36 PM
I can do it sometimes but it's definitely needed somebody else to help us out.

Boarder35m
02-08-2009, 11:37 PM
I can manage a tournament next week :wavey:

FilipeMB
02-08-2009, 11:38 PM
next week you mean after Rotterdam/Sauipe/San Jose? then just choose which one/ones you wanna

Boarder35m
02-08-2009, 11:42 PM
I´ll manage Dubai and if noone takes over Acapulco and Delray Beach I could do them as well.
But maybe someone else wants to do them :p

FilipeMB
02-08-2009, 11:54 PM
manager whatever you want to, probably nobody is gonna complain. ozone/vamosvinchenzo manages some challengers, d_s manages the futures and me and caio more or less do an overall job on all tourneys

Boarder35m
02-08-2009, 11:57 PM
Well I thought about the time difference, but probably it will not matter that much :p

d_s
02-09-2009, 01:27 AM
I'm going to open the Week 6 Futures thread right now.

and also I'd be happy to help with the main tour tournaments as well if needed.

FilipeMB
02-09-2009, 01:59 AM
feel free to help d_s, to open round topics when needed, declare vote again and post scores :)

10K Futures Qualifier
02-16-2009, 12:53 AM
The Humacao Challenger was cancelled.

10K Futures Qualifier
02-17-2009, 02:50 AM
I need to pull out of commitment for the Baton Rouge challenger. Its the week of the Clay Courts. Sorry!

FilipeMB
02-17-2009, 05:52 PM
I will have less time to manage tourneys from March to July. Is there anybody willing to help? I will still be able to do the rankings and maybe manage one or other tourneys but not all tourneys.

FilipeMB
02-17-2009, 05:54 PM
I will be able to be on-line I think everyday by night and I don't know if it's gonna enough for the tourneys.

FilipeMB
02-20-2009, 07:24 PM
We def need some managers from March-June, I won't be able to manage every tourney besides futures

Ariel_506
02-23-2009, 04:06 PM
como se hace para ser moderador de un torneo??

FilipeMB
02-23-2009, 05:58 PM
no es muy trabajo. solamente usted need to open the threads when the matches are over and provide scores

Caio_Brasil
02-26-2009, 03:11 PM
Will we play Davis Cup throughout the year? I think it would be fun :yeah:

FilipeMB
02-26-2009, 06:22 PM
Will we play Davis Cup throughout the year? I think it would be fun :yeah:

good idea, what you guys think about it?

Salum
02-27-2009, 02:38 AM
I think we should play.

FilipeMB
02-27-2009, 04:58 PM
See this post guys. http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=8215686&postcount=9

Should we change it too for main tour tourneys?

Caio_Brasil
02-27-2009, 05:02 PM
I think that making it only 1 thread wouldn't change the course of the tournament that much. Probably all voters would keep voting, it's just a matter of letting everyone know in the first post and in the thread title. Let's wait for other responses to the topic, if more people complain we can change it IMO :shrug:

Regarding the DC issue, I really think we should do it. World Group ties and the WG play-offs in the end of the year wouldn't be much work. No need for Zonals though.

FilipeMB
02-27-2009, 05:48 PM
I think that making it only 1 thread wouldn't change the course of the tournament that much. Probably all voters would keep voting, it's just a matter of letting everyone know in the first post and in the thread title. Let's wait for other responses to the topic, if more people complain we can change it IMO :shrug:

Regarding the DC issue, I really think we should do it. World Group ties and the WG play-offs in the end of the year wouldn't be much work. No need for Zonals though.

I think it would be nice to have zonals but it'd bee too much work. but I was thinking about PYW DC and something appeared in my mind: what if we "promote" a nation who happens to lose in R-L DC and they don't have a team set-up for the time WG 1st round is played or QF :confused:
We have to have in mind that PYW is the only game who promotes a "tennis reality" beyond the real one.

Caio_Brasil
02-27-2009, 06:48 PM
I see what you mean. I think it's a nice idea, until the start of the matches on next Friday we could see which countries are doing the best jobs at PYW this year and define the 16 WG participants. We don't have to follow R-L exactly, right? I mean, France singles players would be Gasquet and Tsonga (best ranked at the moment), Brazil could have a spot having Bellucci in the top 20 and Alves in the top 60, Argentina would play with Gaudio and Schwank and so on. We just need to define a chriteria and this can be done. What you guys think?

Salum
03-02-2009, 08:19 PM
Great idea Caio. We can follow the real draw for round 1, but the playes should be the best in PYW. I guess it will be really fun.

FilipeMB
03-05-2009, 11:33 PM
Davis Cup (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=139550) thread opened :worship:

10K Futures Qualifier
03-10-2009, 01:53 AM
When will the April commitments go up?

FilipeMB
03-10-2009, 02:04 AM
When will the April commitments go up?

I forgot to update, Glab. We're following ATP schedule except 10k futures. I know your special interest on US challengers and we're gonna have them on April 6 and April 20 week. Also, on March, as you might know, we're gonna have the awesome Sunrise challenger, just next week.

chowdahead25
03-10-2009, 04:15 AM
I know this may sound a little weird, but if it would be allowed, I'd like to set up a PYW for the IW quallies.
If I can get quick response, I can go ahead and set it up tonight.

If not, let me know. You wont crush my dreams or hurt my feelings.:D

chowdahead25
03-10-2009, 04:17 AM
Sorry, double post.

d_s
03-10-2009, 04:26 AM
I know this may sound a little weird, but if it would be allowed, I'd like to set up a PYW for the IW quallies.
If I can get quick response, I can go ahead and set it up tonight.

If not, let me know. You wont crush my dreams or hurt my feelings.:D

We already do PYW qualifying for ATP tournaments. I'm not sure if there is anyone managing Indian Wells yet though.

chowdahead25
03-10-2009, 04:29 AM
Ah ok cool.
If you need a manager, I'd be more than happy.

FilipeMB
03-10-2009, 11:26 PM
Ah ok cool.
If you need a manager, I'd be more than happy.

sure, for me it's fine to you to open the thread and i believe the other guys think the same way.

FilipeMB
03-11-2009, 01:41 AM
Just let you guys know, the ranking will be out late this week. Bruno ("Salum") sent the results of this week today but I'll have to correct some formula mistakes on the ranking file. It is a consequence of a big list like the one we have.
The ranking will probably be out tomorrow or Thursday, depending on how much free I'll have these days.

Ozone
03-27-2009, 03:11 PM
Where are April comittments?? Its already March 27th and no sign-ups?? For the futures, just look at the itftennis.com schedule if thats the problem. Challengers are listed all the way up to June. ATP tourneys should be very easy to find. Can I get the comittment sheet up?

FilipeMB
03-27-2009, 05:46 PM
April to June tournaments available on First page

Ozone
03-27-2009, 06:28 PM
Me and Mens Clay Court have all USA challengers.

I will take....
Monte Carlo
All May 4 week challengers (Ramat Hasharon, San Remo, Savannah)
Portscach
Roland Garros or Wimbledon... If NO RG, then all challengers that week. If NO Wimbledon, then all challengers on that week;)
Halle
Constanta CH, Reggio Emilia CH

That should work good for my calendar. May add or take way. But I think its fine:)

10K Futures Qualifier
03-27-2009, 07:08 PM
Mens Clay Court confiriming all U.S.A. chalengers with 'Ozone.' Also, we would like to run Roland Garros and Wimbledon.

FilipeMB
03-27-2009, 07:22 PM
well, just please accept picks don't matter how it's posted, okay? thank you very much for helping pyw, it's your game as much as it's mine.

Ozone
03-27-2009, 07:23 PM
OK if me and Mens Clay COurt get to do both RG and Wimby together then scracth out the challengers for me those weeks. If not, follow my post:)

FilipeMB
03-27-2009, 07:36 PM
OK if me and Mens Clay COurt get to do both RG and Wimby together then scracth out the challengers for me those weeks. If not, follow my post:)

done :worship:

Ozone
03-27-2009, 08:49 PM
The Ramat Hasharon, San Remo CHs very actually only mine. But it shouldnt matter since me and MCC have a USA CH that week.

Caio_Brasil
03-28-2009, 01:14 AM
I can't fully manage any tournament, but as long as the managers agree I like to update scores when I have time, just willing to help :wavey:

10K Futures Qualifier
03-28-2009, 04:00 AM
Caio_Brasil you are such am asset to PYW, anything you need or polls you want me to vote for let me know. You can always post live scores.

Filipe I will accept picks no matter what. I got over the lazy people on here.

I am so pumped for Roland Garros and Wimbledon!!!

FilipeMB
03-29-2009, 03:25 PM
nobody claimed this week (Mar 30) challengers so I'll take them.

Ozone
03-31-2009, 02:25 AM
What happened to Sexysova and hellas?

FilipeMB
03-31-2009, 06:04 PM
What happened to Sexysova and hellas?

sexysova got pissed when we users tried to post matches scores and also when she/he talked about including challengers and futures points into ranking.
hellas i don't know but as far as i know there is nothing "bad" from him, like from sexysova

Ozone
04-01-2009, 12:01 AM
:lol:

Caio_Brasil
04-01-2009, 01:13 AM
Guys, I'm starting to think the challengers should be the winner of 8 games. The 'vote agains' are starting usually after 12/13 votes, so a match hardly ends at 10 without the 'vote again'. I think that with 8 games the results wouldn't be affected and we wouldn't end the tournaments so late (last week tournaments ended today, which means tuesday night!). ATP's and futures scorings look ok though.

What do you guys think?

FilipeMB
04-01-2009, 01:34 AM
I have always been supportive of 8 games for challenger. I agree with your point Caio, let's see what other people think

Ozone
04-01-2009, 01:42 AM
*sigh* First of all, we can't jump straight into 8 games without better advertising. I say we need to spice this game up. Sorry to say this, but PYW is just kind of dull. Its just vote for your fave player and thats it. We need to advertise PYW more and spice it up. Any ideas?

Also, we could do short sets like they do in some junior tourneys if raining. Ex. 4-0 = 6-0; 4-3, 6-5; 5-3= 7-5; 4-4= 5-5; 4-2= 6-3

FilipeMB
04-01-2009, 01:45 AM
*sigh* First of all, we can't jump straight into 8 games without better advertising. I say we need to spice this game up. Sorry to say this, but PYW is just kind of dull. Its just vote for your fave player and thats it. We need to advertise PYW more and spice it up. Any ideas?

Also, we could do short sets like they do in some junior tourneys if raining. Ex. 4-0 = 6-0; 4-3, 6-5; 5-3= 7-5; 4-4= 5-5; 4-2= 6-3

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Caio_Brasil
04-01-2009, 01:46 AM
I don't think it's dull, I like voting for each round and checking the champions at the end of the week :shrug: amd that's how the game works. What we can do to make it more interesting is posting some stats at the start of eavch tournament (like: PYW stars this week - player A champion at tournaments X, Y and Z). When I update the stats next week we will have all this info pretty easy.

Caio_Brasil
04-01-2009, 01:49 AM
I will also try to create a newsletter which would come at the end of each week. I would post it here at the PYW forum and send a PM with it to the active voters. It would include the champions of the week, stats, curious matches etc. This way we can attract some ATP-only voters to challengers/futures. I'm kinda busy during the week so it would be better if the tournaments ended on Sunday, but that's something we can work out with the time :yeah:

FilipeMB
04-01-2009, 01:51 AM
I don't think it's dull, I like voting for each round and checking the champions at the end of the week :shrug: amd that's how the game works. What we can do to make it more interesting is posting some stats at the start of eavch tournament (like: PYW stars this week - player A champion at tournaments X, Y and Z). When I update the stats next week we will have all this info pretty easy.

and it has always been like this from 5 years, in the other tennis forums I have reason to believe that PYW score works the same way.
good ideas btw caio. I have also thought about making draw more interesing (e.g. similar to ATP real one) or post player pictures or face, to the "users" to have more "touch" with the players.
btw, we are rulling so much at dtt :p

FilipeMB
04-01-2009, 01:54 AM
I will also try to create a newsletter which would come at the end of each week. I would post it here at the PYW forum and send a PM with it to the active voters. It would include the champions of the week, stats, curious matches etc. This way we can attract some ATP-only voters to challengers/futures. I'm kinda busy during the week so it would be better if the tournaments ended on Sunday, but that's something we can work out with the time :yeah:

I have thought of some way to "force" matches to follow schedule (two days for 1R, two for 2R, one for QF, one for SF and one for final). But I'm not with the time I wanna have during the week to be here in MTF and check how the game is doing so either we think about another way we can use to make tournament ends on right schedule or somebody else steps up to help us to do this

Caio_Brasil
04-01-2009, 01:59 AM
and it has always been like this from 5 years, in the other tennis forums I have reason to believe that PYW score works the same way.
good ideas btw caio. I have also thought about making draw more interesing (e.g. similar to ATP real one) or post player pictures or face, to the "users" to have more "touch" with the players.
btw, we are rulling so much at dtt :p

Man, we are! :bigclap: Let's win this thing.

I have thought of some way to "force" matches to follow schedule (two days for 1R, two for 2R, one for QF, one for SF and one for final). But I'm not with the time I wanna have during the week to be here in MTF and check how the game is doing so either we think about another way we can use to make tournament ends on right schedule or somebody else steps up to help us to do this

Setting a period for each round would be great IMO. I also don't have much time during the week, but at night I can spend some time updating the scores. We also have Ozone/MCC helping us.

Snoo Foo
04-01-2009, 02:00 AM
I can do something, at least in the near future, if you tell me what you need...

FilipeMB
04-01-2009, 02:06 AM
I can do something, at least in the near future, if you tell me what you need...

basically posting scores, calling vote again and see if tournament is following real-life schedule for rounds...
whatever you can do that i haven't said it's a great addition to pyw. it's just because this year i will mainly only post during night or a little bit at afternoon. suggestion for making the game more interesting would be nice :p we kind of are enjoying a moderate popularity. all main tour tournaments are ending on date, which didn't happen last year and in 2007.

Ozone
04-01-2009, 02:09 AM
just advertise the game in your sig and make it flashy until we find a way to spice it up

Ozone
04-01-2009, 02:12 AM
Filipe, Caio, others, we need to think of ideas of how to give this game a spark and get more attention. Something new needs to happen other thank voting for faves, compiling rankings.

Caio_Brasil
04-01-2009, 02:14 AM
Filipe, Caio, others, we need to think of ideas of how to give this game a spark and get more attention. Something new needs to happen other thank voting for faves, compiling rankings.

That's where my newsletter idea enters :p

Ozone
04-01-2009, 02:26 AM
Can we hear more about this newsletter?

BUt im also saying we should add something new to the game. i know you may like it the same, but spicing it up would be great!

FilipeMB
04-02-2009, 05:22 PM
i thought of something interesting for the game:
players profiles, with results, bio, data, etc.. not for all players, obviously but i thought it could be nice

Ozone
04-02-2009, 09:14 PM
Good idea:) We can open up a thread and anyone could post a player's PYW profile if not already made. Should include current/high ranking, 2009(current year) highlights, career highlights, etc.

Ozone
04-11-2009, 12:13 AM
Ill take Madrid.

And I am appreciative of the help but when I alone sign up to manage a tournament, I expect that I start the thread. Filipe, if you want to manage all these tourneys you can sign up for them. Now since Filipe has started thread for Monte Carlo, that I signed up for to manage, I cannot change the title and edit the 1st post.

FilipeMB
04-11-2009, 01:33 AM
Ill take Madrid.

And I am appreciative of the help but when I alone sign up to manage a tournament, I expect that I start the thread. Filipe, if you want to manage all these tourneys you can sign up for them. Now since Filipe has started thread for Monte Carlo, that I signed up for to manage, I cannot change the title and edit the 1st post.

i really don't wanna neither would have time if i wanted to :p

FilipeMB
04-11-2009, 01:36 AM
just to add, the tourneys I want to manage are only the brazilian ones. I manage the others when there is no other manager available, so, PYW can still bealive

Ozone
04-11-2009, 01:41 AM
Ill take Warsaw too. As well as s-Hertengobash

FilipeMB
04-17-2009, 05:49 PM
d_s was unable to manage his futures this week and people is pretty unable to follow tourneys progress without updating thread's title, etc, so it's likely PYW Futures week 15 will not be on the ranking;

Ozone
04-17-2009, 05:57 PM
Ah sorry Filipe, I wont be around s-Hertengobash week, so scratch that. Me and MCCM will take all those challengers after 1st RG week(June 1 challengers(4)). Yes we can do this because the smaller rounds will be running at that time.

FilipeMB
04-17-2009, 05:59 PM
you're doing a great job @ Monaco ozone :)

Ozone
04-17-2009, 06:07 PM
Thanks, despite the qualy issue:lol: Mistakes are for learning though;)

chowdahead25
04-18-2009, 07:42 AM
Is Barcelona taken?
And I'll do Rome.

chowdahead25
04-18-2009, 07:49 AM
I'll do Belgrade, London, and Eastbourne as well.


So the whole list is:
Barcelona (if not taken, Felipe made the qually thread, but it doesnt have anyone on the list)
Rome
Belgrade
London
Eastbourne.

Ozone if you want help with any of the ones you are doing by yourself I'll help you out. PM me.

chowdahead25
04-18-2009, 08:51 AM
If Barcelona is taken, I can do the Sofia CH instead next week.

FilipeMB
04-18-2009, 07:46 PM
list updated

Ozone
04-18-2009, 08:19 PM
Awesome chowdahead, if you need any help just let me know and I can do live scores for you. Im doing enough tourneys, so you can take care of all of those. I would be glad to help though;)

chowdahead25
04-19-2009, 06:19 PM
Thanks! :wavey:

FilipeMB
04-23-2009, 11:32 PM
either someone steps out and help us to post scores in a day-after-day basis or the game can be on risk of disappearing again!

iSzavay.
05-02-2009, 02:18 AM
I'll help score, but I don't want to manage tournaments. I'll only score if it is by sets though, because it seems to have changed in Rome :help:.

FilipeMB
05-02-2009, 02:23 AM
I'll help score, but I don't want to manage tournaments. I'll only score if it is by sets though, because it seems to have changed in Rome :help:.

it has not changed, relax :p

chowdahead25
05-02-2009, 06:42 AM
Dibs on US Open:D:D
When you think commitment thread for future tourneys will open?

FilipeMB
05-02-2009, 01:04 PM
probably by late may/early june we'll have the schedule for the last months

Ozone
05-02-2009, 02:48 PM
I doont think I can do Portschach when RG qualies are going on.

iSzavay.
05-02-2009, 04:50 PM
it has not changed, relax :p
Mmm okay then. I will help keep score whenever I can in ATP events :).

chowdahead25
05-02-2009, 10:52 PM
I doont think I can do Portschach when RG qualies are going on.
I can help you with RG quallies if you want.

Ozone
05-03-2009, 03:27 AM
No me and Greg already have that well covered, but you can help me with Portscach?:)

chowdahead25
05-03-2009, 03:28 AM
Certainly.

Ozone
05-06-2009, 12:16 AM
Gah, I really need someone to do scores in the challengers this week. I am stacked with homework. Thanks a lot:wavey:

Boarder35m
05-06-2009, 02:52 AM
Gah, I really need someone to do scores in the challengers this week. I am stacked with homework. Thanks a lot:wavey:

I am making them at the moment, but it would be nice if you could change the thread title afterwards :wavey:

Boarder35m
05-06-2009, 03:51 AM
:mad::mad::mad: d_s was making them, too :mad::mad::mad:

Caio_Brasil
05-08-2009, 11:19 PM
Just to make it noted, I opened Madrid qualy thread but I won't neccessarily run the tournament. This works for the whole year, I open threads/post scores when I have time :wavey:

Ozone
05-09-2009, 02:31 AM
Thanks Boarder, glad someone can show some compassion and have a good attitude and help me.

Ozone
05-09-2009, 02:34 AM
I am withdrawing everything I manage besides, Halle, Wimby, RG, and me and glab's challnegers. It isnt really a whole lot. But his is because of school and TT management conflicts.

chowdahead25
05-10-2009, 03:43 AM
I can run Madrid this week if you want.
PM me, cuz I wont remember to check here:D

Ozone
05-14-2009, 01:37 AM
I must now withdraw from Halle due to TT management. Yes, PYW is better, but TT is time-consuming. Me and Greg will dominate RG and Wimby and our challengers:)

chowdahead25
05-14-2009, 06:07 AM
Ill do Halle.

Caio_Brasil
05-23-2009, 02:27 AM
Hey guys, I don't think I'll manage PYW anymore, sorry :wavey:

Anyone can move on with this week's threads I was running :wavey:

chowdahead25
05-23-2009, 02:43 AM
Looks like the end of PYW, as I cannot commit to managing like you did.
Sorry everyone.
Someone please step up:(

10K Futures Qualifier
05-24-2009, 12:06 AM
Anyone who can help with Roland Garros this week even if just scores for one match is so helpful!

I have exams, then might be taking some PYW withdraws because of traveling for my tennis.

iSzavay.
05-25-2009, 01:49 AM
I can do scores and I will manage Kitzbühel and Düsseldorf tomorrow, but then I can't do anything for a week.

chowdahead25
05-26-2009, 02:43 AM
Lets try to keep this game going guys.
We can do it.

d_s
05-27-2009, 06:14 AM
I don't think I'll be running PYW futures anymore...but it's not like it was that popular anyways :p

chowdahead25
05-27-2009, 06:39 PM
The hits keep on coming:(

10K Futures Qualifier
05-30-2009, 01:35 AM
I am sorry to say, but I had to cancel the Carson 2 PYW this week. No one votes anymore. Unfortunately also due to my extremely busy schedule, I will have to pull out of all of my commitments. I will do Roland Garros and Wimbledon, but that will be it. Hopefully whenever I get time I can post live scores or something.

Ozone
05-30-2009, 01:43 AM
Hey Greg how about asking ME to run the tourney. In case you dont know, I am co-running these challengers and everything else you do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Open your eyes and ask me to do it!!!!!! Goodness.

I will solely do all challengers that concur during USA Challenger weeks. Thats it thuogh RG, Wimby, and USA Challenger weeks

Boarder35m
05-30-2009, 01:50 PM
I am sorry to say, but I had to cancel the Carson 2 PYW this week. No one votes anymore. Unfortunately also due to my extremely busy schedule, I will have to pull out of all of my commitments. I will do Roland Garros and Wimbledon, but that will be it. Hopefully whenever I get time I can post live scores or something.

Hey Greg how about asking ME to run the tourney. In case you dont know, I am co-running these challengers and everything else you do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Open your eyes and ask me to do it!!!!!! Goodness.

I will solely do all challengers that concur during USA Challenger weeks. Thats it thuogh RG, Wimby, and USA Challenger weeks

I know you guys are young, but please don´t post so many private messages in the PYW threads.
If you have to say something that is in no way important to all who post there please leave it out of the threads. PMs work perfectly on that. :p

Otherwise it keeps getting more and more confusing for us all.
I must admitt that I gave up picking this week, because of all those comments.

I understand that you want to make it easier by putting all of PYW in one thread, but if you don´t inform those who vote regularly you´ll lose voters there as well, because not everyone reads the PYW manager´s thread :wavey:

NyGeL
06-07-2009, 04:30 PM
We should forget about Roland Garros and start doing Halle and Queens.

It was a shitty decission to do the Qualys best of 3 sets when that's a Challenger-level.

We must learn from this. Challengers and Futures are not that special and we don't need to have them every week.

Keep going guys!

Ozone
06-13-2009, 06:24 PM
Sorry again, but the votes just are coming in for the challengers. I will have to withdraw from all my challengers I comitted to. I just cannot put that on my plate. However, I may start a week of PYW challenegrs here and there, and just cant be obligated to do it every week. So now just RG and Wimby for me, but I probably will do some other stuff. Thanks



And also, where are Caio and Filipe!?!? They havent been in charge of things like they used to be. Have you guys given up? I am way too busy with TT and summer stuff I cannot take over Filipe's and Caio's ways. We also need more voters.

Caio_Brasil
06-15-2009, 04:09 AM
Hey guys, I don't think I'll manage PYW anymore, sorry :wavey:

Anyone can move on with this week's threads I was running :wavey:

I posted this many time ago Scott :wavey: