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PYW Ranking

FilipeMB
01-22-2009, 08:02 PM
as of Febraury, 9 of 2009 (http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/felipedemelobarbosa@ymail.com/ranking.htm)

co-updated by Dwight Schrute and Salum.

Salum
01-22-2009, 08:08 PM
Great stuff! Good job.

Baghdatis#1
01-22-2009, 08:17 PM
good job!

Snoo Foo
01-22-2009, 08:23 PM
This is awesome :yeah: :worship:

Sexysova
01-22-2009, 08:24 PM
good work but so unfair.. you see how Alves or Mello are high and they shouldn't be :ras: :lol:

Snoo Foo
01-22-2009, 08:25 PM
good work but so unfair.. you see how Alves or Mello are high and they shouldn't be :ras: :lol:

why shouldn't they be? if people like them, people voted for them, what's unfair about that? Don't be bitter just cuz you were too lazy to do this yourself.

Sexysova
01-22-2009, 08:27 PM
why shouldn't they be? if people like them, people voted for them, what's unfair about that? Don't be bitter just cuz you were too lazy to do this yourself.

shut up, I do almost everything about ATP TOUR.. and it's nice people like them but only because they play players who nobody knows.. if they would play in ATP they would be crushed by most of the players.. that's why only ATP TOUR will be counted..

Snoo Foo
01-22-2009, 08:33 PM
if they would play in ATP they would be crushed by most of the players.. that's why only ATP TOUR will be counted..

what do you base this on? plenty of people around here would vote thiago alves over novak djokovic (for example) the challenger pyws have fewer points, so the rankings already take into account the fact that these are measly challenger draws.

Sexysova
01-22-2009, 08:35 PM
oh come on, it's not fair at all.. that's why it should be separated.. like on Tennis Forum (WTA)..

Snoo Foo
01-22-2009, 08:39 PM
oh come on, it's not fair at all.. that's why it should be separated.. like on Tennis Forum (WTA)..

why is it not fair? it's not fair to keep them separated. if a challenger player has a lot of fans, he should get the pyw ranking he's earned just like any other player. That's the whole point of PYW, to give our favorite players some recognition just for being well-liked even if they aren't Federer or Nadal.

This isn't Tennis Forum, this isn't the WTA, I don't see your point.

Sexysova
01-22-2009, 08:45 PM
do u understand that ITF is absolutely different? there're more people interested in ATP Tour circuit, not ITF where almost all players are unknown.. I don't understand why you don't get that.. I finish this discussion because you're all absolutely weird if you think that ITF & ATP shouldn't be separated :o

Snoo Foo
01-22-2009, 08:48 PM
and what about all the players who play both atp and challenger events? under your system they really get shafted cuz their points would be split between your elitist atp-only rankings and the sad little challenger rankings.

Sexysova
01-22-2009, 08:54 PM
because of YEC we will do only ATP TOUR.. you can YEC of ITF too with best players.. but I wouldn't do ITF at all but if you want to do ITF then do your own YEC.. not combine it with ATP.. it has nothing to do with it in PYW..

Snoo Foo
01-22-2009, 09:18 PM
Why aren't challenger players allowed to play in the YEC if they qualify? The ATP includes challenger points in its ranking system, if by some miracle a player was able to get to the YEC on points from challengers would the ATP tell him no, sorry, you earned some of your points playing challengers so we can't include you? Do you also exclude grand slam points because those are also not ATP events?

Snoo Foo
01-22-2009, 09:30 PM
and in the ATP it's now actually "the ATP challenger tour"

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc179/SnooFoo828/mtf/challengerlogo.jpg

but hey do whatever way you want, you're the "Official PYW Manager," I've given you my opinion, you haven't convinced me otherwise. But I would think, as the Official Manager, you would want to consider other people's ideas instead of just coming in and announcing that this is the way it's going to be done because you said so.

FilipeMB
01-22-2009, 09:31 PM
first of all, think a little bit:
Alves has 110 points right? He played two challengers and, according to ATP Ranking rules for this season, only 2 Challengers or ATP 250 will be counted.
So, as you count ATP 250 in your ranking, I won't talk about them. If Alves won two challengers with 150k+h, he will be awarded 250 points, the same a player like the ones who plays "the toughest" will get if they win one. Let's just not forget that Alves will hardly play any ATP 250 (not mentioning ATP 500 or Masters Series) than the South American ones, so his actual position will be certainly his highest one, because he will not earn points in any of the mandatory tourneys of the year (4 gs, 8 1000s, 4 500s)..

anyway, I cannot see your point. and please, challengers are NOT a part of ITF circuit, it's an important piece in the ATP circuit.
I will not even bet with you that a challenger player won`t be in YEC with this rankings because I and I think almost everyone here are pretty sure of this.

FilipeMB
01-22-2009, 09:41 PM
and in the ATP it's now actually "the ATP challenger tour"

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc179/SnooFoo828/mtf/challengerlogo.jpg

but hey do whatever way you want, you're the "Official PYW Manager," I've given you my opinion, you haven't convinced me otherwise. But I would think, as the Official Manager, you would want to consider other people's ideas instead of just coming in and announcing that this is the way it's going to be done because you said so.

:worship::worship:

d_s
01-23-2009, 12:16 AM
Great job on the rankings :worship:

Although I don't think you should include Futures unless there will be a PYW tournament for each one

FilipeMB
01-23-2009, 12:29 AM
yes, it will. at least from now and while there is interest of people to vote on it :)

d_s
01-23-2009, 12:35 AM
well if you ever need help with Futures, I'd be happy to help. (I know there's already people doing the main tour and challengers)

FilipeMB
01-23-2009, 12:49 AM
feel free to help with challengers and futures. just let me know so I don't open up topics. check up in the first post for the available tourneys.

FilipeMB
01-23-2009, 01:12 AM
managament will be moved to another thread

FilipeMB
01-27-2009, 01:31 AM
Ranking updated as of this week, by Dwight Schrute and Salum.

FilipeMB
02-05-2009, 04:15 PM
Updated rankings will be posted today as I am without my PC where the updated ranking is saved.

FilipeMB
02-05-2009, 10:33 PM
Rankings updated after Week 4 (Australian Open, challengers and Futures). (http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/felipedemelobarbosa@ymail.com/ranking.htm)

Caio_Brasil
02-05-2009, 11:29 PM
Marcos :)

Thanks Filipe :worship:

FilipeMB
02-05-2009, 11:54 PM
thanks Bruno Salumtoo, without his help congrecating tournament results I'm sure the ranking would take yearsto be done

Salum
02-05-2009, 11:58 PM
thanks Bruno Salumtoo, without his help congrecating tournament results I'm sure the ranking would take yearsto be done

No problem ;)
Good work by the way :worship:

Caio_Brasil
02-06-2009, 12:05 AM
Bruno :bowdown:

Ozone
02-06-2009, 12:28 AM
MARCOS!!
Also great job to all the Brazilian PYW guys!:)

FilipeMB
02-09-2009, 02:45 PM
Updated rankings out, we're almost at 400 players already!!

Baghdatis#1
02-10-2009, 01:17 AM
How did Alexander Jakupovic's rank drop so much? He just won a future, unlike Photos Kallias who moved up one spot ahead of him, who he beat in the final :confused::shrug:

FilipeMB
02-10-2009, 01:19 AM
How did Alexander Jakupovic's rank drop so much? He just won a future, unlike Photos Kallias who moved up one spot ahead of him, who he beat in the final :confused::shrug:

his ranking didn't drop, he is up 208 positions actually :wavey:

d_s
02-10-2009, 02:01 AM
Actually Jakupovic appears to be in the rankings twice. He's ranked both 145 and 175

FilipeMB
02-10-2009, 03:10 PM
thank you, corrected already

d_s
02-11-2009, 12:49 AM
thank you, corrected already

hey, and also in the PYW San Jose you counted the final round of qualifying as one normal set and I think we were doing a super tiebreak (up to 10). It doesn't really matter since Round 1 is almost finished anyways, it's just that Polansky would have won instead of Devvarman :p

FilipeMB
02-18-2009, 08:24 PM
Rankings updated after week 6. Thanks Bruno Salum, Boarder35m, d_s, all the managers and people who helps PYW

Ivanatis
02-18-2009, 08:52 PM
Marcos:D
he's still unbeaten in 2009 right?

d_s
02-19-2009, 06:02 AM
Great job on the rankings! :worship:

FilipeMB
02-19-2009, 12:30 PM
and d_s, super tie-break with 10 games is now official and being used in challengers and ATP qualy.
sorry for the polansky being out :p

s_9262
02-22-2009, 08:49 AM
Wow! I didn't realize there were rankings for PYW :D
I really like this game and this makes it even better!


Really amazing job to everyone running this game. And Dwight Schrute and Salum for the rankings :D

Caio_Brasil
02-22-2009, 11:51 PM
Yes, the game is going great now :)

I think we could do a thread with a list of all champions - ATP, challengers and futures - it would be even more interesting :)

I will work on it the next days :yeah:

FilipeMB
02-24-2009, 03:21 PM
Rankings (http://br.geocities.com/felipedemelobarbosa@ymail.com/pyw2009.htm) updated after Week 7 (Buenos Aires, Memphis, Marseille, Tanger, Belgrade + ITF Futures).

Caio_Brasil
02-24-2009, 03:48 PM
Korolev rising fast :yeah:

Gastón and Pico :)

FilipeMB
03-05-2009, 12:20 AM
Rankings (http://br.geocities.com/felipedemelobarbosa@ymail.com/pyw2009.htm) updated.

FilipeMB
03-11-2009, 07:22 PM
Ranking (http://br.geocities.com/felipedemelobarbosa@ymail.com/pyw2009.htm) updated. Several corrections on formulas mistakes.

Caio_Brasil
03-24-2009, 02:08 AM
The new ranking :worship:

Top 10 looks great, hopefully Pico will enter it after Miami :)

Ozone
03-24-2009, 02:58 AM
Great job guys!!

FilipeMB
04-12-2009, 04:38 AM
if we're gonna count last year results then maybe we're going to count all tourneys (not best 2 atp 250 and below, or best 4 atp 500)

FilipeMB
05-06-2009, 12:02 AM
ranking file for those who wants faster updates
http://rapidshare.com/files/229614306/pyw2009.xlsx