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AO R2: Muller beats Tomic 3-6 6-1 6-4 6-2

Salvy41
01-21-2009, 12:32 PM
Tomic hit some truly great groundstrokes but Muller served up an absolute acefest to win this. Some of the best serving I've seen in a long while.

MatchFederer
01-21-2009, 12:37 PM
His serving was made to look better than it was because Tomic has mediocre athleticism on the return of serve and in general can be wrong footed easily. That along with his serve are his weak points. He possesses good touch and court craft and good resolve when put in an awkward situation. He is definitely a big prospect and one can only hope that his muscles have a long way to go in terms of their development and that he can develop good/very good movement by the time he is in his late teens, otherwise he will have to be a supremely clever bunny to win matches at the highest level when the time comes.

Dini
01-21-2009, 12:39 PM
Wohooo Muller!!! Keep it up...loving your Slam performances recently :worship:

m9m9m9m9m9
01-21-2009, 12:40 PM
It's more to do with Tomic lack of experience in reading opponent's serve
I guess he doesn't have too much experience with a big serving lefty like Muller.
Muller also didn't give Tomic any rhythm whatsoever

zethand
01-21-2009, 12:40 PM
Go Muller! Thanks for the money :D

Tankman
01-21-2009, 12:43 PM
Bernard started well but fell away as the match went on. Didn't ever return to the intensity or level of play he had in the first set. But yes all credit to Gilles, who basically started flinging bombs down for the next three sets - Tomic never really got into a good rhythm on his serve and Muller's clutch serving whenever he faced a BP was impressive :clap2:

A lot the mistakes Tomic made, as well as his approach to Muller's service, you can probably attribute to his huge inexperience here. Muller also had him wrong-footed and out of position a lot, taking advantage of Tomic's relatively weak movement and ability to change direction, so that's something he'll have to work on in the next few years.

As Voo mentioned elsewhere, the timing and arena probably didn't give him the best chance to win. Cool conditions + RLA definitely favoured Muller, and the match never really went on long enough for Muller's last match to have any impact.

Not going to make any excuses for Tomic though. Muller deserved the win. And Tomic will be back for sure :cool:

MatchFederer
01-21-2009, 12:43 PM
It's more to do with Tomic lack of experience in reading opponent's serve
I guess he doesn't have too much experience with a big serving lefty like Muller.
Muller also didn't give Tomic any rhythm whatsoever

Yeah, there is this, but you could see that when he stood his ground and guessed right that he still doesn't quite have the athleticism and you shouldn't expect a 16 year old to quite have it yet. However, he did look unusually still on court and Muller should have tried to wrong foot him more often because the lad just can't really shift direction quickly at all yet.

JolánGagó
01-21-2009, 12:51 PM
So there goes the hyper-hype down the drain :lol:

aussie_fan
01-21-2009, 12:58 PM
Tomic did fine considering everything, having to play at primetime on RLA. Some nice shots, and hopefully with time the things Tomic needs improving on will come.

Byrd
01-21-2009, 01:01 PM
Looks like it's upto the Gooch to carry the flag.

Voo de Mar
01-21-2009, 01:04 PM
I hope Muller stays healthy, with such a good serve he should be a seeded player in Grand Slams and serious threat for Top 10 players. Maybe he will finally force Del Potro to play a tight match.

gusman890
01-21-2009, 01:07 PM
ABomb will get learning experience from this match.
Muller served very well to keep the kid off balence.

TJ20
01-21-2009, 01:14 PM
Tomic has a lot of potential if he invests in power i believe. Seems like a clean striker of the ball... with power, a definate top 20 or potential GS winner... once this top 4 era is over.

His movement could well be an issue if he wants to be the number 1 top dog. 6'3 at 16 suggests one thing... he's going to grow taller.
Andy Murray grew 2 inches whilst beginning in the ATP tour (18-20 years old from 6'1 to 6'3). It didnt effect his movement at all. But I can imagine Tomic's height stopping at 6'5 or 6'6 so his movement will always be a bit of an issue.

petar_pan
01-21-2009, 01:25 PM
bravo for bernard for great performance on AO.you are a future of tennis.just keep going.

vincayou
01-21-2009, 01:26 PM
So there goes the hyper-hype down the drain :lol:

He has won one match. Good enough to maintain the hype.

VolandriFan
01-21-2009, 01:28 PM
Well done Muller. He took advantage of his young opponent's lack of returning skills, though I'm sure that Gilles' serving display would have been too much for many players today.

Auscon
01-21-2009, 01:30 PM
alot more experience, strength, and better movement - with those he's going to give plenty of guys grief in the future.

Good AO main draw intro for Tomic...plenty of hard work to come

cath85
01-21-2009, 01:35 PM
I really enjoyed this match! Tomic sure has a great future ahead of him, but it's not for now just yet.
good luck to Gilles now, he won some great points, loved the dropshots!! if he can maintain his level this high, or maybe raise it a little, he's defo gonne give delpo a little scare :D

Drimal
01-21-2009, 01:41 PM
Gilles :rocker2:

After saving BPs at the beginning of 2nd set he had the match under control.

ORGASMATRON
01-21-2009, 04:21 PM
So much for the boy with 'more talent then Federer'. :lol:

Clara Bow
01-21-2009, 04:24 PM
So there goes the hyper-hype down the drain :lol:

He's either the 4th youngest player or 4th 16 year old to win a grand slam match in the Open era. Not really scoff-worthy imo. ;)

GlennMirnyi
01-21-2009, 04:27 PM
Great stuff Muller. Keep it up you legend.

ChinoRios4Ever
01-21-2009, 06:29 PM
vamos Gil Mula :rocker:

jonathancrane
01-21-2009, 06:34 PM
Muller maestro :worship:

ORGASMATRON
01-21-2009, 06:36 PM
Great stuff Muller. Keep it up you legend.

:lol:

CooCooCachoo
01-21-2009, 08:01 PM
Tomic looked better than I expected, but he did face one of the worst baseliners in the Top 300. Muller can do one thing and that is serve very well. His volleys are mediocre, and he can only string together a few good baseline rallies in a row once a set. He is also a headcase.

Guess I'm not a Muller fan, huh?

Peetz
01-21-2009, 08:05 PM
Therefore that Tomic seems to be so much of a hype,its quite ridiculous that there is nothing of the match in the news section on the official site

GoMullerGo
01-21-2009, 08:14 PM
Tomic looked better than I expected, but he did face one of the worst baseliners in the Top 300. Muller can do one thing and that is serve very well. His volleys are mediocre, and he can only string together a few good baseline rallies in a row once a set. He is also a headcase.

Guess I'm not a Muller fan, huh?

well even better if one of the worst baseliners of the top 300 can beat haas, almagro, daydenko in one tournament

ace ventura
01-21-2009, 08:55 PM
First set a battle of nerves .... was more like watching russian roulette, Tomic the upper hand there , will be good.

But come on Australia , we are centre stage , this is an International tournament so bring on the best.

Dont want to watch kids getting experience but what tennis is at the next step.

To think Safin and Fed play today , what a waste loosing one of those guys so early.

Wheres the god of draws ?

dam0dred
01-21-2009, 09:05 PM
well even better if one of the worst baseliners of the top 300 can beat haas, almagro, daydenko in one tournament

What? Beating a few top 50 players can be done with a good serve and little or nothing to back it up with. Ask Roddick. Or Rusedski. Etc.

Snowwy
01-21-2009, 09:17 PM
well even better if one of the worst baseliners of the top 300 can beat haas, almagro, daydenko in one tournament

CooCoo cheers for Zverev and Phau..that really says it all :lol:

CooCooCachoo
01-21-2009, 09:33 PM
well even better if one of the worst baseliners of the top 300 can beat haas, almagro, daydenko in one tournament

Don't think he won any sets with more than one break. Four out of nine sets won against these guys were tie-breaks. The man, if serving well, is practically impossible to break. Like I said, he can occasionally string a few good baseline rallies together, and that can get him the break together with some UEs from your opponent.

I am not saying he is a bad player overall, but I am saying that he relies a LOT on his serve, and that his baseline game is comparatively speaking just substandard :shrug: I don't think you can argue against this.

CooCooCachoo
01-21-2009, 09:36 PM
CooCoo cheers for Zverev and Phau..that really says it all :lol:

Uhm, I know you have made a point of disagreeing with me or poking fun at me in virtually every thread, but never ever do you solidly back up your point. It's getting quite tiresome, really. Either drop it altogether, or provide some solid reasoning for your base statements.

Phau, in any case, is a much better baseliner than Muller. Mischa's baseline game needs a lot of work, I won't deny that. In fact, I'm very disappointed in the lack of progress he has made there. But Mischa's net game is outstanding.

Snowwy
01-21-2009, 11:09 PM
Uhm, I know you have made a point of disagreeing with me or poking fun at me in virtually every thread, but never ever do you solidly back up your point. It's getting quite tiresome, really. Either drop it altogether, or provide some solid reasoning for your base statements.

Phau, in any case, is a much better baseliner than Muller. Mischa's baseline game needs a lot of work, I won't deny that. In fact, I'm very disappointed in the lack of progress he has made there. But Mischa's net game is outstanding.

You have posted the following garbage in the past two weeks.

Phau > Muller
Klein > Phau
Matsorvic > Klein

So in essence youre saying:

Matsorvic > Muller

Good one :)

Huntress555
01-22-2009, 03:24 AM
Muller served too well for Tomic to put any pressure on.
At least he got a set :p

CooCooCachoo
01-22-2009, 06:16 AM
You have posted the following garbage in the past two weeks.

Phau > Muller
Klein > Phau
Matsorvic > Klein

So in essence youre saying:

Matsorvic > Muller

Good one :)

First learn to spell a name. Matosevic. And I still stand by the fact that I think he deserved the WC over Klein, simply because of the form he was in, and Klein simply wasn't.

I never said Klein > Phau, so you might want to switch that around. And in this very moment, Phau is the better player. I really am still dumbstruck that he lost to Klein, and I very much doubt you saw it coming. There's no telling how good Klein will become, but I think he'll be happy to emulate Phau.

And I didn't say Phau is better than Muller either. He's definitely the better baseline player, but Muller is the much more explosive player. If they meet each other, I would not be sure who to pick for the win.

Clearly your ratio and your reading skills are even worse than your spelling :shrug:

FairWeatherFan
01-22-2009, 07:05 AM
Good result for Tomic I think. There are some who are saying that Tomic will be no 1 in the world, others are saying he is overrated and expected him to be triple-bageled in the AO main draw...this result doesn't give too much fodder to either camp.

Nice aggressive tennis from Muller. I liked his post-match interview too, a very frank self-assessment, he seems an honest guy.

Way to derail the thread with crap BTW

GoMullerGo
01-22-2009, 03:16 PM
Good result for Tomic I think. There are some who are saying that Tomic will be no 1 in the world, others are saying he is overrated and expected him to be triple-bageled in the AO main draw...this result doesn't give too much fodder to either camp.

Nice aggressive tennis from Muller. I liked his post-match interview too, a very frank self-assessment, he seems an honest guy.

Way to derail the thread with crap BTW

what did he say in post match interview? I was writing my exam during that one :)

cath85
01-22-2009, 04:17 PM
what did he say in post match interview? I was writing my exam during that one :)

this one? ;)
http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/interviews/2009-01-21/200901211232460378515.html

The_Nadal_effect
01-22-2009, 04:20 PM
A-TOMIC rocks!

fast_clay
01-22-2009, 04:30 PM
so much bothers me about muller.... like, why dont i get to watch this guy play for most of the year...? everytime i see him play he's just electric... dunno how he has had some of the losses he has had in recent years, though, massive salute to him that he is still out there and finally doing justice to his talent...