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Battle of the big serve: Karlovic vs. Ancic - WWW?

Horatio Caine
01-20-2009, 12:39 PM
Not usually a huge fan of this type of this thread, but this is a pretty interesting match...well, on paper at least. I guess it wouldn't be a great one to watch. :o :zzz:

Does Karlovic's serve give him the necessary edge, or will Ancic's better ground game get him through? More to the point, who would be holding up better, physically, if this one goes into a 5th set (Karlovic notoriously poor over distance matches...Ancic not the same since mono)? :tape:

petar_pan
01-20-2009, 12:52 PM
come on guys, let's get fun.

oranges
01-20-2009, 12:55 PM
Mario's not really such a big server, there's at least 10 guys in top 50 with comparable serve, though given Ivo's return, he might look like another Karlovic ;) He should win this fairly easily Ivo has nothing on him and he can't serve out of his mind the entire match.

petar_pan
01-20-2009, 12:57 PM
ancic beat verdasco(quick boy) on wimbledon last year in 1/8 of final after 0:2 deficit,so he has a power.it was 13:11(!!!!) in 5. set.also he beat petzschner in best of 5 on that wimbledon.

petar_pan
01-20-2009, 12:58 PM
Mario's not really such a big server, there's at least 10 guys in top 50 with comparable serve, though given Ivo's return, he might look like another Karlovic ;) He should win this fairly easily Ivo has nothing on him and he can't serve out of his mind the entire match.

what do you think,is his serve worse because of mono?

oranges
01-20-2009, 01:05 PM
what do you think,is his serve worse because of mono?

No, I just meant that there's quite a few guys serving as well, but their matches don't end up being Karlovic/Isner like.

duong
01-20-2009, 01:10 PM
that should be tight, but I think Ancic is a great fighter

VolandriFan
01-20-2009, 01:11 PM
Ancic in four.

Deathless Mortal
01-20-2009, 01:54 PM
Mario's not really such a big server, there's at least 10 guys in top 50 with comparable serve, though given Ivo's return, he might look like another Karlovic ;) He should win this fairly easily Ivo has nothing on him and he can't serve out of his mind the entire match.

Ivo will have chances and probably will break Mario's serve, it's obvious Ivo's serve has improved over the last years.
And I don't agree that Mario should win this easily, last time they played Ivo won 7-6 7-6, it was 3 years ago, and I think that Mario is playing worse than then and Ivo has improved. I'm not saying Ivo will win easily, or that he'll win for sure, but it will be a very interesting match and most probably in 4 or 5 sets.

Forehander
01-20-2009, 02:02 PM
Mario Ancic is a big server? :haha::haha::haha:

petar_pan
01-20-2009, 02:04 PM
i would like win,he is one of my favorite.and he will good as he was and healt.

Voo de Mar
01-20-2009, 02:05 PM
I don't expect many aces from Ancic.

RIboy
01-20-2009, 02:06 PM
ancic vs. big servers:
Ancic, Mario 0-5 Roddick, Andy
Ancic, Mario 0-1 Stepanek, Radek
Ancic, Mario 1-1 Arthurs, Wayne
Ancic, Mario 1-1 Gulbis, Ernests (mario's win was 3 years ago)
Ancic, Mario 1-4 Ljubicic, Ivan
Ancic, Mario 0-3 Fish, Mardy
Ancic, Mario 1-1 Karlovic, Ivo (marios win was 6 years ago)

hope this helps

Voo de Mar
01-20-2009, 02:08 PM
ancic vs. big servers:
Ancic, Mario 0-5 Roddick, Andy
Ancic, Mario 0-1 Stepanek, Radek
Ancic, Mario 1-1 Arthurs, Wayne
Ancic, Mario 1-1 Gulbis, Ernests (mario's win was 3 years ago)
Ancic, Mario 1-4 Ljubicic, Ivan
Ancic, Mario 0-3 Fish, Mardy
Ancic, Mario 1-1 Karlovic, Ivo (marios win was 6 years ago)

hope this helps

Stepanek is questionable in this stats.

RIboy
01-20-2009, 02:16 PM
Stepanek is questionable in this stats.


maybe but hes style is nearest what will Ivo play tomorrow...

oranges
01-20-2009, 02:16 PM
Ivo will have chances and probably will break Mario's serve, it's obvious Ivo's serve has improved over the last years.
And I don't agree that Mario should win this easily, last time they played Ivo won 7-6 7-6, it was 3 years ago, and I think that Mario is playing worse than then and Ivo has improved. I'm not saying Ivo will win easily, or that he'll win for sure, but it will be a very interesting match and most probably in 4 or 5 sets.

It's a best of five of match, he can win over pretty much anyone in best of three. I don't expect him to have many opportunities to break. If he does, Mario's playing poorly. He's better in absolutely every department except the serve and that's not exactly a weak part of his game either. No TB in the final set pretty much seals the deal IMO.

RIBoy, care to post Karlovic's record in GS against any top50 players to help us any further?

Dini
01-20-2009, 02:40 PM
Ivo should be banned from ATP...his matches are snore fests and he is so annoyingly unpredictable. Ancic has the beautiful groundstrokes and has proven that he can win the toughies and last long in a set. So I say super Mario in 4!!

petar_pan
01-20-2009, 02:41 PM
ancic vs. big servers:
Ancic, Mario 0-5 Roddick, Andy
Ancic, Mario 0-1 Stepanek, Radek
Ancic, Mario 1-1 Arthurs, Wayne
Ancic, Mario 1-1 Gulbis, Ernests (mario's win was 3 years ago)
Ancic, Mario 1-4 Ljubicic, Ivan
Ancic, Mario 0-3 Fish, Mardy
Ancic, Mario 1-1 Karlovic, Ivo (marios win was 6 years ago)

hope this helps

pa nismo mi fiumani tako štufi?ća ti je lipi moj brek.

malisha
01-21-2009, 01:20 PM
DR Ivo in 5

finishingmove
01-21-2009, 01:23 PM
i think mario will win.

zeleni
01-21-2009, 01:23 PM
Dr Ivo will win, I believe.:)

Crazy Girl
01-21-2009, 01:24 PM
Ivo,.....I'm afraid....

Tankman
01-21-2009, 01:45 PM
going for Super Mario here :cool:

again for some of the reasons mentioned above... plus Ivo's atrocious GS record

federernadalfan
01-21-2009, 02:00 PM
ancic probably because of better groundies

Horatio Caine
01-21-2009, 02:32 PM
Mario Ancic is a big server? :haha::haha::haha:

Well he doesn't dolly-drop his serves in, that's for sure. :shrug:

Okay, maybe the title should have been "Battle of the strong serves" then...Karlovic needs no introduction, and when Ancic finds the angles and lines, his own serve is difficult enough to return well on a consistent basis (at least, for 99% of the Tour).

Vida
01-21-2009, 02:35 PM
mario, mario, mario!!!

it would be so uncool if Karlovic wins this.

JolánGagó
01-21-2009, 02:35 PM
Croatian snorefest :zzz:

dr.Damir
01-21-2009, 03:04 PM
if it goes to 5, there's no doubt, Ančić will win.

SelvenluvJo
01-21-2009, 03:08 PM
mario will win!Come on!

Arkulari
01-21-2009, 03:34 PM
I hope Ancic wins, his game is far less one dimensional than dr ivo's :o

Venle
01-21-2009, 03:35 PM
Ajmo Super Mario :worship:

Bascule
01-21-2009, 03:36 PM
I would love Ancic to win, he has a game, but it all depends on Ivo's serve.

Fedexex
01-21-2009, 05:37 PM
c'mon mario!

daddy
01-21-2009, 06:19 PM
Ivo should be banned from ATP...his matches are snore fests and he is so annoyingly unpredictable. Ancic has the beautiful groundstrokes and has proven that he can win the toughies and last long in a set. So I say super Mario in 4!!

If beautiful groundstrokes are criteria for winning matches, Karanusic should have been top 5 long time ago:rolleyes:

I think you're thinking of figure skating where beauty of movement is preciated, tennis has different rules.

El Legenda
01-21-2009, 06:21 PM
this is one of those matches where tennis wins.

Bascule
01-21-2009, 06:58 PM
this is one of those matches where tennis wins.

You mean like in Djokovic - Tipsarevic match? :)

petar_pan
01-21-2009, 11:17 PM
DR Ivo in 5

lol.are you some relatives of karlo or very good frend?

enzogiovanni
01-21-2009, 11:19 PM
Go Ivo!!!!!

malisha
01-22-2009, 12:15 AM
No TB in the final set pretty much seals the deal IMO.



what deal is it?

you want to say that Ancic have more clutch than Karlo??..that he is a better player under pressure???
his GS experience is ofcourse much bigger but on the other side hes too agressive on return especially on his FH wing..and that is a not good way to return big serve

asmazif
01-22-2009, 12:51 AM
Clearly rooting for Ancic.

oranges
01-22-2009, 01:00 AM
what deal is it?

you want to say that Ancic have more clutch than Karlo??..that he is a better player under pressure???
his GS experience is ofcourse much bigger but on the other side hes too agressive on return especially on his FH wing..and that is a not good way to return big serve

Yes, I actually think he's a better player under pressure, way better fighter, he actually has a return, has a huge edge in every aspect of the game except the serve and shouldn't let Karlo come near a BP. We'll have to wait and see. It's not that long now.