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Wilander picks Djokovic

xargon
01-17-2009, 06:09 PM
Those baking courts won’t suit Federer or Nadal. In Paris and Wimbledon, explains Wilander, their superior spin wins titles. “Melbourne is not their favourite surface. It’s a surface for the likes of Djokovic, [Jo-Wilfried] Tsonga, who take the ball earlier and hit with no spin. This surface in Australia is dead, and it’s fast because it’s so hot.”

Wilander’s favourites for Melbourne are Federer or Djokovic, “if Novak survives the early rounds”. But he adds: “I think Andy Murray is in there.”

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/60590b2c-e40a-11dd-8274-0000779fd2ac.html

biological
01-17-2009, 06:12 PM
Has he forgotten Fed's 3 AO titles?

No respect for the guy after what he said about Roger anyway.

nsidhan
01-17-2009, 06:20 PM
Wilander is full of it.

Commander Data
01-17-2009, 06:21 PM
Those baking courts won’t suit Federer or Nadal. In Paris and Wimbledon, explains Wilander, their superior spin wins titles. “Melbourne is not their favourite surface. It’s a surface for the likes of Djokovic, [Jo-Wilfried] Tsonga, who take the ball earlier and hit with no spin. This surface in Australia is dead, and it’s fast because it’s so hot.”

Wilander’s favourites for Melbourne are Federer or Djokovic, “if Novak survives the early rounds”. But he adds: “I think Andy Murray is in there.”

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/60590b2c-e40a-11dd-8274-0000779fd2ac.html


Aha.... Federer, Djokovic, Murray or Tsonga might do well. Wow, very impressive insight from the expert....No way I could have guessed that.

prima donna
01-17-2009, 06:25 PM
Those baking courts won’t suit Federer or Nadal. In Paris and Wimbledon, explains Wilander, their superior spin wins titles.
Then how does one explain Roger's five successive U.S. Open titles on an even quicker surface under conditions which are equally, if not more grueling than those in Melbourne ? In addition, Wilander conveniently ignores Roger's most recent victories over both Djokovic and Murray, both of which occurred at a Grand Slam played on a surface other than grass or clay.

At times one gets the impression that ex-players tend to be more subjective than objective in terms of how they choose to analyze the game. Particularly when it involves players who have surpassed their accomplishments -- however mediocre such accomplishments may in fact be.

elessar
01-17-2009, 06:30 PM
I still remember last year's article in L'Equipe where he said Tennis Australia couldn't have picked a surface more perfect for Roger even if they'd tried :worship:

Awesome analysis by former greats as always.

ORGASMATRON
01-17-2009, 06:30 PM
Wilander Pilander he's done too much crack again.

Bilbo
01-17-2009, 06:40 PM
wilander is a tool

Byrd
01-17-2009, 06:42 PM
The surface is more better for Roger and Murray, as it takes slice well and keeps low, Wilander knows shit apart from talking about people's balls.

dam0dred
01-17-2009, 06:48 PM
He has absolutely no credibility at all. He'll say anything to get some media attention. Wanker.

Vida
01-17-2009, 06:49 PM
djoker is what we can call a "smart pick". saying he wont win it on account of his recent poor form, bad body language or racket change doesn't cut it. he's done it before (winning AO) and is fairly consistent at the slams, likes the surface, has something to prove and is off the main light. most of the pundits are saying andy or fed, so in case they win, rarely who would turn out to have made a smart chose, but rather go with the flow. if djoker wins it, willander and the likes can boost about it.

Spes
01-17-2009, 06:51 PM
Djokovic was hitting with plenty of spin in Sydney.

biological
01-17-2009, 06:53 PM
He has absolutely no credibility at all. He'll say anything to get some media attention. Wanker.

quite

theDreamer
01-17-2009, 07:57 PM
He has absolutely no credibility at all. He'll say anything to get some media attention. Wanker.

I don't think that's the case. He really doesn't need the
media attention - he's just giving his own opinion, which
he's entitled to do. And that doesn't mean he's right - it's
just an opinion. We'll have to wait and see what really happens.

finishingmove
01-17-2009, 08:02 PM
:lol:

dam0dred
01-17-2009, 08:09 PM
I don't think that's the case. He really doesn't need the
media attention - he's just giving his own opinion, which
he's entitled to do. And that doesn't mean he's right - it's
just an opinion. We'll have to wait and see what really happens.

Well then that's even worse. If saying things like "Federer has no balls" isn't just to grab headlines but actually reflects what he thinks, he's even more of an idiot than I took him for.

Mechlan
01-17-2009, 08:19 PM
If I'm reading that clip right he's effectively backed 3 of the top 4. Such insight. Probably waiting to see which way Bud Collins goes. Smart man.

theDreamer
01-17-2009, 10:31 PM
If I'm reading that clip right he's effectively backed 3 of the top 4. Such insight. Probably waiting to see which way Bud Collins goes. Smart man.

:lol: yes - he said so much that he ended up not saying much at all. :lol:

theDreamer
01-17-2009, 10:34 PM
Well then that's even worse. If saying things like "Federer has no balls" isn't just to grab headlines but actually reflects what he thinks, he's even more of an idiot than I took him for.

Not really - its understandable why some people think/thought
that. During his prime, he generally won so easily that his fighting qualities weren't tested. It's only now that his matches
are closer and he's losing more, that his fighting qualities are
being shown clearly.

groundstroke
01-17-2009, 11:00 PM
Wilander is full of shit. The title is Federer's or Murray's.

l_mac
01-17-2009, 11:04 PM
I don't think that's the case. He really doesn't need the
media attention - he's just giving his own opinion, which
he's entitled to do. And that doesn't mean he's right - it's
just an opinion. We'll have to wait and see what really happens.

He craves it.

Iván
01-17-2009, 11:14 PM
I like Wilander, he is very passionate but he does come out with some crazy gunge.

Kolya
01-17-2009, 11:40 PM
Wilander was one of the smartest players ever on court...

But off court :smash:

Outfielder
01-18-2009, 01:06 AM
He was good player... :drink:

Arkulari
01-18-2009, 01:39 AM
the usual pass "glories" trying to get headlines aka the Borg syndrome or the bandwagoning express :retard:

Thanos
01-18-2009, 01:42 AM
Wilander is full of it.

full of knowledge and a mastermind. that is correct.

carry on.

duong
01-18-2009, 06:31 AM
I don't think that's the case. He really doesn't need the
media attention - he's just giving his own opinion, which
he's entitled to do. And that doesn't mean he's right - it's
just an opinion. We'll have to wait and see what really happens.

in many previous players' case, I would agree with that,

but not for Wilander, who has at least contracts to make articles with Eurosport, l'Equipe in France ...

Anyway, after last US Open, he has said that Federer would win more than 20 Grand Slams :rolleyes:

... after saying the opposite months before of course :haha:

he doesn't just speak frankly like the other oldies

Voo de Mar
01-18-2009, 06:37 AM
Wilander has tendency to exaggerate but if I had to choose one player, it would be Djokovic, despite his poor performance in first two '09 tournaments.

gambit84
01-18-2009, 08:02 AM
as always Wilander tells something unexpected and extremely smart :rolls:

incredible how is always the same, slam after slam :rolls:

crude oil
01-18-2009, 08:07 AM
dead surfaces are like paris ams. nalbandian does well on those surfaces.

wally1
01-18-2009, 08:26 AM
Those baking courts won’t suit Federer or Nadal. In Paris and Wimbledon, explains Wilander, their superior spin wins titles. “Melbourne is not their favourite surface. It’s a surface for the likes of Djokovic, [Jo-Wilfried] Tsonga, who take the ball earlier and hit with no spin. This surface in Australia is dead, and it’s fast because it’s so hot.”

Wilander’s favourites for Melbourne are Federer or Djokovic, “if Novak survives the early rounds”. But he adds: “I think Andy Murray is in there.”

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/60590b2c-e40a-11dd-8274-0000779fd2ac.htmlMost of the big matches at the AO these days are played at night.

RoyBatty
01-18-2009, 08:43 AM
..and he'll lose too.

scoobs
01-18-2009, 01:53 PM
I wouldn't trust Wilander to pick Djokovic out of a lineup.

the graduate
01-18-2009, 03:00 PM
who cares about these old timers on the other hand Djoko is not winning anything.Roger is the top dawg down under

madmanfool
01-20-2009, 05:14 PM
This is hilarious. There is an interview on eurosport website and he's saying he expects an upset from Chardy. Make up your mind Wilander, Djokovic can't both go out in the second round and win the tournament :)

duong
01-20-2009, 05:35 PM
This is hilarious. There is an interview on eurosport website and he's saying he expects an upset from Chardy. Make up your mind Wilander, Djokovic can't both go out in the second round and win the tournament :)

That's typical of him.

He always wants to catch the attention

... and he has no problem for saying something one day, and the opposite a week later :haha:

He's a media professional now : he says what can catch the attention.

I think very often he doesn't speak sincerely.

the graduate
01-20-2009, 05:40 PM
Kiss of death.Wilander has never been on point with his predictions

finishingmove
01-20-2009, 05:54 PM
I wouldn't trust Wilander to pick Djokovic out of a lineup.

negative. the sharp skull makes him an easy target.

finishingmove
01-20-2009, 05:56 PM
He's a media professional now : he says what can catch the attention.

I think very often he doesn't speak sincerely.


exactly, i think he's just trying to stir up the masses.

buzz
01-20-2009, 06:02 PM
He also picked Federer to win the tournament...

scarecrows
01-20-2009, 06:16 PM
he just needs to pick Nadal and Murray in the next few days and he cant be wrong

unless Duck-boy burns him

ORGASMATRON
01-20-2009, 06:31 PM
Wilander is obviously on coke but i for one dont think Djoker should be underestimated. I dont think he'll win the tourny but i do think he is too dangerous to be written off. He is lethal off the ground and is after all the defending champ.

Dougie
01-20-2009, 06:35 PM
Wilander is obviously on coke but i for one dont think Djoker should be underestimated. I dont think he'll win the tourny but i do think he is too dangerous to be written off. He is lethal off the ground and is after all the defending champ.


I don´t think anyone is saying Djokovic is not a threat. But there is nothing to indicate that he would be able to defend his title or be a bigger favorite than Murray, Fed and Nadal.

ORGASMATRON
01-20-2009, 07:09 PM
I don´t think anyone is saying Djokovic is not a threat. But there is nothing to indicate that he would be able to defend his title or be a bigger favorite than Murray, Fed and Nadal.

A lot of people here are writing Djoker off i think. Most people dont expect him to get to the semi's.

Clydey
01-20-2009, 07:19 PM
He picked Federer on Eurosport. Wilander really is a worthless **** of a pundit.

JoshDragon
01-20-2009, 07:20 PM
A lot of people here are writing Djoker off i think. Most people dont expect him to get to the semi's.

I could see Djokovic making it to the semis but I don't think he'll be able to win the open this year. Djokovic, has a horrible head-to-head vs both Rafa and Roger.

ORGASMATRON
01-20-2009, 08:21 PM
I could see Djokovic making it to the semis but I don't think he'll be able to win the open this year. Djokovic, has a horrible head-to-head vs both Rafa and Roger.

Agreed, i hope him and Nalbandian square off in the quarters, should be a cracker. But if he wins he will struggle against Fed.

Federerhingis
01-20-2009, 08:34 PM
Agreed, i hope him and Nalbandian square off in the quarters, should be a cracker. But if he wins he will struggle against Fed.

Given that Roger makes the semis that is! ;)

He does have a rather favorable draw on the other hand.

Halba
01-20-2009, 08:42 PM
Given that Roger makes the semis that is! ;)

He does have a rather favorable draw on the other hand.

no federer does not. he faces 5 big hitters in a row before hitting murray in the final

he faces

korolev- unpredictable
safin- in great form, nothing to lose
berdych - played well so far
del potro - won auckland played good so far
djokovic - clean hitter
murray

thats a tough draw.

ORGASMATRON
01-20-2009, 08:48 PM
Given that Roger makes the semis that is! ;)

He does have a rather favorable draw on the other hand.

Yeah i assumed Roger would make the semi's. Come to think of it Safin is dangerous, but i still think Roger will win and dont see him having problems with the Pony. In the semi's he could be tested and the final will be tough i think.

Steelq
01-20-2009, 10:07 PM
I could see Djokovic making it to the semis but I don't think he'll be able to win the open this year. Djokovic, has a horrible head-to-head vs both Rafa and Roger.
His h2h against Nadal on HC is 4-3,against Federer 2-5,against Murray 3-2.That's not horrible...

Greatness
01-21-2009, 01:03 AM
Novak didn't look good in his first match: slow, uninterested, careless. He better start caring soon otherwise he will get ousted in the early rounds.

jeremda01
01-21-2009, 01:29 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if the top 4 get in to the semi finals. It would be great to see.