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Anyone else thinking Monfils will be this years 'surprise' finalist'?

Langers
01-17-2009, 01:39 PM
With that draw it's hard to see him not doing well this year. His draw is so favourable and despite the fact he's carrying a little niggle he should breeze into the second week. The injury is perhaps the only thing that could stop him from going as deep as his draw should allow him. He's still patchy in his effort at times and I don't think he'll win the AO but I could see him adding to the long list of surprise finalists in Melbourne...

duong
01-17-2009, 01:57 PM
With that draw it's hard to see him not doing well this year. His draw is so favourable and despite the fact he's carrying a little niggle he should breeze into the second week. The injury is perhaps the only thing that could stop him from going as deep as his draw should allow him. He's still patchy in his effort at times and I don't think he'll win the AO but I could see him adding to the long list of surprise finalists in Melbourne...

If I had to choose a "surprise finalist" for this year, it should be him or Simon.
Because yes, they have a good draw.

And 3rd choice would be Gulbis : he also has a good draw, and somebody said that he can suffer very well the heat and the tiredness in Australia.

Ivanatis
01-17-2009, 01:59 PM
I can see him making the QF. But I don't think he can make it past Nadal once again.

Johnny Groove
01-17-2009, 02:02 PM
Nadal will be the surprise finalist

biological
01-17-2009, 02:07 PM
I think it'll be Roger v Rafa. That's what I hope for also.

Burrow
01-17-2009, 02:08 PM
I think it'll be Roger v Rafa. That's what I hope for also.

:zzz:

duong
01-17-2009, 02:11 PM
Nadal will be the surprise finalist

:yeah:

shotgun
01-17-2009, 02:11 PM
Monfils won't get past Nadal IMO. The one with the best chance to be a surprise finalist is Nalbandian, if he can get past Djokovic and Federer.

biological
01-17-2009, 02:13 PM
:zzz:

I'd rather watch Rafa than Murray :shrug: Plus they haven't played each other in ages, it'd be interesting.

gulzhan
01-17-2009, 02:53 PM
I wish :sad:

mickymouse
01-17-2009, 02:58 PM
He has the heart and the weapons but the maniacal way he plays leaves one wondering how far he can go before he gets himself injured or out of steam.

ORGASMATRON
01-17-2009, 03:11 PM
Murray humiliated Monfils in Madrid. ;)

And Monfils won the all important slam meeting.

Albop
01-17-2009, 03:19 PM
And Monfils won the all important slam meeting.

A first round played 2 years and a half ago in Murray's worse surface.

Surely that was most important.

Clydey
01-17-2009, 03:25 PM
And Monfils won the all important slam meeting.

All of them? Wow, here was me thinking that they'd played only once in a GS. On Clay. In 2006.

Yes, that's more relevant than a hard court match played 3 months ago.

BaselineSmash
01-17-2009, 03:55 PM
Monfils may have to get past Youzhny, Almagro (whose matches against Federer on hard show that he's a bit underrated on the surface), and Ancic before the quarter-finals. How is that an easy draw? The Frenchman's habit of treating every match like it's a grand slam final may be entertaining, but it doesn't exactly correspond with the energy conservation that is an absolute must for the AO. That said, I do see him making a date with Nadal and coming through after 3-odd hours of fist-pumping and repeatedly screaming "Allez!!!" at the top of his lungs. He's got a good chance, at least, but if he goes on to face Murray in the semi-finals he doesn't have a prayer. The potential is there for him to reach the Scot's level at some time in the future, but at present his tactics and his stamina are completely inadequate to match the world number 4 at present.

So even if Monfils has enough in the tank to beat Nadal (who looked tame in Doha, and struggled physically contrary to official reports), I think he'll be too exhausted to make a go of it in the semis, whomever he meets.

reggie1
01-17-2009, 04:01 PM
I wouldn't write Monfils off. He is playing really well at the moment and I doubt if many saw Tsonga as a potential finalist this time last year, that's the great thing about tennis, it's full of surprises and upsets.

Henry Chinaski
01-17-2009, 04:02 PM
All of them? Wow, here was me thinking that they'd played only once in a GS. On Clay. In 2006.

Yes, that's more relevant than a hard court match played 3 months ago.

haha. clydey getting so exited at the mention of murray that he totally misreads a simple english sentence. though in fairness ruanz did omit the hyphen from "all-important"

Clydey
01-17-2009, 04:21 PM
haha. clydey getting so exited at the mention of murray that he totally misreads a simple english sentence. though in fairness ruanz did omit the hyphen from "all-important"

I read it as it was written. :shrug:

Maybe I should be more lenient in future. :lol:

nsidhan
01-17-2009, 05:20 PM
I think it will be Blake ;). He has an easy draw till the Quarters.

He will beat Rafa in the semis who would be coming off a TOUGH quarterfinal win against Monfils and Fourth Round win over Hewitt.

Blake will beat Murray in the Quarters. Murray will struggle to beat Stepanek and Melzer (he beat Melzer coming back from 0-2 sets at USO). Plus Murray is injured so he is not totally invincible.

Byrd
01-17-2009, 05:34 PM
Their not surprise finalists if you expect them to get there, a surprise finalist is someone who comes out of nowhere like Baghdatis and Tsonga.

Arhaych
01-17-2009, 05:37 PM
I think it will be Blake ;). He has an easy draw till the Quarters.

He will beat Rafa in the semis who would be coming off a TOUGH quarterfinal win against Monfils and Fourth Round win over Hewitt.

Blake will beat Murray in the Quarters. Murray will struggle to beat Stepanek and Melzer (he beat Melzer coming back from 0-2 sets at USO). Plus Murray is injured so he is not totally invincible.

Murray made Blake look clueless in AD. Make of it what you will as an exhibition, but it showed that Blake has no significant weapons to hurt Murray.

As for the injury, it seems to be all cleared up, according to his last interview.

I think Nalbandian might be the surprise finalist, he's looking sharp.

nsidhan
01-17-2009, 05:42 PM
Their not surprise finalists if you expect them to get there, a surprise finalist is someone who comes out of nowhere like Baghdatis and Tsonga.

I see your point. Someone you don't expect to get to the final, but think they can. Otherwise it would be random pick amoung non favorites .

peterparker
01-17-2009, 06:46 PM
Unlikely. He would have to possibly beat 3 guys who play a better version of his own style. His footwork and balance look like they have gotten better though.

Quakes
01-17-2009, 07:33 PM
He will face Murray in the semis. That would be very interesting, but it's unlikely that he'll make it pass the Scott.

Medina
01-17-2009, 07:35 PM
Mva will win :dance:

Spes
01-17-2009, 07:39 PM
I won't completely dismiss the idea, but I don't think his game can take six best of five matches in the blazing temperatures of Australia - he would be toast by the fourth round or quarterfinals. He needs to step inside the court a little more.

prima donna
01-17-2009, 08:19 PM
No.

ORGASMATRON
01-17-2009, 08:28 PM
All of them? Wow, here was me thinking that they'd played only once in a GS. On Clay. In 2006.

Yes, that's more relevant than a hard court match played 3 months ago.

Can you speak english? Thought they spoke english over in Scotland. I said all important, not all of them.

Vin Judah
01-17-2009, 08:28 PM
he has the game to get to the finals, unless he faces the "favourite" in the semis. in that case he's done

LleytonMonfils
01-17-2009, 08:29 PM
I won't completely dismiss the idea, but I don't think his game can take six best of five matches in the blazing temperatures of Australia - he would be toast by the fourth round or quarterfinals. He needs to step inside the court a little more.

This is my worry. It's a whole different animal beating guys like Nadal in 5 sets. Same goes for the Federer & Murray's of the world as well. What Monfils needs to do in his early matches is take care of business as quickly as possibly. No need to linger out there in a long 4 or 5 set match because he'll need everything in the tank if he runs into Nadal in the QF which is a serious possibility.

ORGASMATRON
01-17-2009, 08:30 PM
I won't completely dismiss the idea, but I don't think his game can take six best of five matches in the blazing temperatures of Australia - he would be toast by the fourth round or quarterfinals. He needs to step inside the court a little more.

Good point. If Monfils start stepping into the court we just might have a new grand slam champion very soon.

MurrayFan1
01-17-2009, 09:00 PM
Good point. If Monfils start stepping into the court we just might have a new grand slam champion very soon.

True. I don't get how he can hurtle about the court when he is pushed but he seems reluctant to play agressively off of his own initiative.

Henry Kaspar
01-17-2009, 09:03 PM
Who knows. He is one of 7 or 8 players who would not surprise me in the final. Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Tsonga, del Potro, Monfils. Maybe old battle horse Roddick and Nalbandian if hey have a good run. Simon first needs to reach his forst GS quarterfinal before we start talkng about finals.

fat_bastard
01-17-2009, 09:40 PM
I wouldn't be stunned if he reached the final, but I'm certainly not expecting it. He's still too patchy and despite the win over Nadal in Doha, didn't really display the maturity of handling a big win by coming out to play another match against a top player. I'm still expecting Murray d Federer in the final.

General Suburbia
01-17-2009, 09:53 PM
Donald Young. Oh wait, did he even make the draw?

Clydey
01-17-2009, 10:17 PM
Can you speak english? Thought they spoke english over in Scotland. I said all important, not all of them.

Use a hyphen next time.

duong
01-17-2009, 10:24 PM
Donald Young. Oh wait, did he even make the draw?

No :lol:

About Monfils, it's sure that it would be a problem for him if Youzhny was fully recovered and played well :
it would be a tough match

I'm not afraid about his resistance to play Nadal, but playing Nadal after Simon might be physically tough.

And then Murray ... for sure if Murray plays as he knows, very few players have some chance.
But you know, last year in US Open, Murray was near to losing in the first rounds ... after losing in the 1st round of the Olympic Games.

Murray is not Bjorn Borg yet :lol:

federernadalfan
01-17-2009, 11:47 PM
this years surprise finalist: simon, nalby, rafa
monfils will have a hard time just reaching the sf

GlennMirnyi
01-18-2009, 12:16 AM
Monfils would be a surprise 2nd rounder.

LleytonMonfils
01-18-2009, 12:25 AM
Monfils would be a surprise 2nd rounder.

Yea because he's reached atleast the 3rd round of every Slam he has played in the last two years. :rolleyes: When are you going to take your medicine like a good boy and shut up? Those who don't know WTF they are talking about shall not speak. ;)

ORGASMATRON
01-18-2009, 12:41 AM
Yea because he's reached atleast the 3rd round of every Slam he has played in the last two years. :rolleyes: When are you going to take your medicine like a good boy and shut up? Those who don't know WTF they are talking about shall not speak. ;)

:haha: Looks like he's out of the cave to get owned some more...

GlennMirnyi
01-18-2009, 12:49 AM
Yea because he's reached atleast the 3rd round of every Slam he has played in the last two years. :rolleyes: When are you going to take your medicine like a good boy and shut up? Those who don't know WTF they are talking about shall not speak. ;)

Does that mean he's gonna repeat that again?

According to your flawless logic, Haas is the favorite to make the AO SF, considering his past results here.

You really know shit about tennis...

GlennMirnyi
01-18-2009, 12:50 AM
:haha: Looks like he's out of the cave to get owned some more...

Look who's talking, the guy who says isn't a fanboy but has a link to some website called "Federer the Greatest of All Time". :lol:

LleytonMonfils
01-18-2009, 01:01 AM
Does that mean he's gonna repeat that again?

According to your flawless logic, Haas is the favorite to make the AO SF, considering his past results here.

You really know shit about tennis...

You are comparing Haas who's ranking has consistently dropped in the last year to Monfils who's ranking has cosistently gone up the last year? What exactly are you talking about? I hope you realize that your comparison makes absolutely no sense considering Haas didn't play in 2 Slams, and made it to the 2R and 3R in the other two in 2008. Who doesn't know shit about tennis?

Gael made it to the 3R of every slam he played in 2007. He made it to the semis and the 4R in the two slams he played in last year. Again I repeat his ranking has consistently improved, and you say I don't make any sense?

I'd swear if it didn't say you were 22 I would swear you were younger than me. Your immaturity and lack of knowledge shows. How many times must you get knocked down before you realize you're better off staying down? I don't mind beating you up though, it's rather entertaining, but I wish you wouldn't make it so easy. You should spend more time FAPing to your lover boy Stepanek and less time on these forums....:wavey:

And just in case you were keeping score... that's ME 3 You 0... you should call for the trainer.

GlennMirnyi
01-18-2009, 01:27 AM
You are comparing Haas who's ranking has consistently dropped in the last year to Monfils who's ranking has cosistently gone up the last year? What exactly are you talking about? I hope you realize that your comparison makes absolutely no sense considering Haas didn't play in 2 Slams, and made it to the 2R and 3R in the other two in 2008. Who doesn't know shit about tennis?

Gael made it to the 3R of every slam he played in 2007. He made it to the semis and the 4R in the two slams he played in last year. Again I repeat his ranking has consistently improved, and you say I don't make any sense?

I'd swear if it didn't say you were 22 I would swear you were younger than me. Your immaturity and lack of knowledge shows. How many times must you get knocked down before you realize you're better off staying down? I don't mind beating you up though, it's rather entertaining, but I wish you wouldn't make it so easy. You should spend more time FAPing to your lover boy Stepanek and less time on these forums....:wavey:

And just in case you were keeping score... that's ME 3 You 0... you should call for the trainer.

Lack of maturity is saying things like : me 3 you 0. You should put: Monfils mug, you mugger.

Monfils is a mug who, apart from that fluke SF in RG, has made nothing of worthy in the tour, except for choking in many MM finals.

Knocked down by a fanboy who thinks Mugfils is a good player? You gotta be joking me. You might be one of the most opportunistic fanboys ever here. Only shows up when your favorites aren't being embarrassed. Maybe you should show up during the rest of the year, when Mugfils is being humiliated like when Ljuba Truba defeated him with an underarm ace. :haha:

Stepanek has won a title this year and has a career-high ranking much better than Mugfils'. :wavey:

Arkulari
01-18-2009, 01:41 AM
I don't think he has what it takes to take down Roger, Rafa, Djoker or Muzza, specially in HC :shrug:

Corey Feldman
01-18-2009, 01:42 AM
its not impossible but La Monf would need to win his first 4 rounds in good style

LleytonMonfils
01-18-2009, 01:44 AM
Lack of maturity is saying things like : me 3 you 0. You should put: Monfils mug, you mugger.

Monfils is a mug who, apart from that fluke SF in RG, has made nothing of worthy in the tour, except for choking in many MM finals.

Knocked down by a fanboy who thinks Mugfils is a good player? You gotta be joking me. You might be one of the most opportunistic fanboys ever here. Only shows up when your favorites aren't being embarrassed. Maybe you should show up during the rest of the year, when Mugfils is being humiliated like when Ljuba Truba defeated him with an underarm ace. :haha:

Stepanek has won a title this year and has a career-high ranking much better than Mugfils'. :wavey:

No unlike you I have priorities in life and usually a tennis forum doesn't top the list. Why are you attacking Monfils, when I am just presenting facts to back my opinion? Has nothing to do with being a "fanboy" as you say, which is sort of gay in itself but that's for another time. Guy has a decent draw and can make a run in this tournament. No one is in here to get into a pissing match and Stepanek has nothing to do with this. Stay on the topic at hand man. Completely changing the topic just proves you were wrong, not willing to admit it, and are trying to change the subject to deflect everything else. I understand it's cool man, but please when facts actually are in front of your face time and time again, have the balls/cajones to admit your wrong ok? That's called being a man, fan"boy"! 4-0

GlennMirnyi
01-18-2009, 01:53 AM
Your priority should be gettin' a working brain, mate.

Your list of players is typical of a fanboy: they have nothing to do with each other and they're all top players. Except for Young.

Come back when you've become a real tennis fan. :wavey:

LleytonMonfils
01-18-2009, 02:33 AM
Your priority should be gettin' a working brain, mate.

Your list of players is typical of a fanboy: they have nothing to do with each other and they're all top players. Except for Young.

Come back when you've become a real tennis fan. :wavey:

5-0

ballbasher101
01-18-2009, 03:22 AM
I highly doubt it, he could go deep but reaching the final is too huge a task for Monfils.

kyleskywalker007
01-18-2009, 06:09 AM
Actually, surprise should mean something that no one saw coming.... You can expect Monfils to do some damage. You can expect Simon to do something as well.

A surprise finalist would be someone like, I don't know, just to give an example, Tommy Haas on a comeback trail....

opeth84
01-18-2009, 06:27 AM
I don't see him getting through Nadal in a best of 5 format.I wouldn't read to far into the Doha result. He will be lucky to get to the Quarterfinals.

Kalinikos
01-18-2009, 06:33 AM
No shot.

Venle
01-18-2009, 09:38 AM
We'll see. Monfils could be the surprise finalist, yes.

Nathaliia
01-18-2009, 03:18 PM
Hard to say if Monfils would be so surprising regarding him hanging around the top 20 for quite a while now and with a recent Doha performance. Just like Byrd said, a surprising one comes out of nowhere.

I'd love Nalbandian to play the final. Both Federer and Djokovic haven't been in brilliant shape, but he's so much able to lose now in the 2nd round, would be quite much like him.

ORGASMATRON
01-18-2009, 03:40 PM
5-0

:haha: Seems i have missed out on the fun last night. I can see you did a good job at owning him again. Personally im getting bored at owning the chump, he just makes it too easy. And he keeps repeating this fanboy shit when he keeps sucking the gooche's dick :rolleyes:

ORGASMATRON
01-18-2009, 03:42 PM
I dunno if there will be a surprise finalist again i mean its getting ridiculous. Especially with the top four so tight it will be hard.

Johnny Groove
01-18-2009, 03:49 PM
Your priority should be gettin' a working brain, mate.

Your list of players is typical of a fanboy: they have nothing to do with each other and they're all top players. Except for Young.

Come back when you've become a real tennis fan. :wavey:

So people aren't allowed to support a variety of players? :lol:

Andi-M
01-18-2009, 03:49 PM
I dunno if there will be a surprise finalist again i mean its getting ridiculous. Especially with the top four so tight it will be hard.

On current form alone the top 4 aren't guranteed anything at all. Nalbandian could come throght Jokers quarter and Monfils through Nadal's.

ORGASMATRON
01-18-2009, 04:08 PM
On current form alone the top 4 aren't guranteed anything at all. Nalbandian could come throght Jokers quarter and Monfils through Nadal's.

Agreed, but that would only be semis right? :rolleyes:

Andi-M
01-18-2009, 04:14 PM
Agreed, but that would only be semis right? :rolleyes:

Yes, but in semi's anything could happen. If Nalby reaches peak form chances are Fed will not make the final.

ORGASMATRON
01-18-2009, 04:16 PM
Yes, but in semi's anything could happen. If Nalby reaches peak form chances are Fed will not make the final.

I seriously doubt Nalby could beat Fed, but if Monfils gets that far he can upset Murray for sure.

Andi-M
01-18-2009, 04:24 PM
You know what your gonna get from Monfils he is a very good player and on clay I'd pick him to upset Andy but on a HC. I doubt it.

Clydey
01-18-2009, 05:15 PM
I seriously doubt Nalby could beat Fed, but if Monfils gets that far he can upset Murray for sure.

Nalbandian is every bit as talented as Federer. It's not unheard of for Dave to outplay Fed on a hard court.

Burrow
01-18-2009, 05:57 PM
Nalbandian is every bit as talented as Federer. It's not unheard of for Dave to outplay Fed on a hard court.

:unsure::scratch:

Clydey
01-18-2009, 06:09 PM
:unsure::scratch:

Physical talent does not always translate into results.

ORGASMATRON
01-18-2009, 06:13 PM
Nalbandian is every bit as talented as Federer. It's not unheard of for Dave to outplay Fed on a hard court.

I wouldnt mind seeing a Monfils/Murray and Nalby/Roger semi's, but i think Murray might struggle againts Tsonga.

Clydey
01-18-2009, 06:25 PM
I wouldnt mind seeing a Monfils/Murray and Nalby/Roger semi's, but i think Murray might struggle againts Tsonga.

Tsonga obviously has the potential to beat him, but I doubt he will. Besides that, we don't know how fit Tsonga is. Even at 100%, Murray would be a big favourite. With injury, I'm not sure Tsonga will make the quarters.

LleytonMonfils
01-18-2009, 06:27 PM
You guys realize how many times we're going to be discussing these different potential matches? We have the potential for so many blockbuster macthups. It's going to be some good few weeks!

Clydey
01-18-2009, 06:31 PM
You guys realize how many times we're going to be discussing these different potential matches? We have the potential for so many blockbuster macthups. It's going to be some good few weeks!

I have a sociology exam on Tuesday that I should be studying for, but I'm too keyed up for the start of the AO. :mad:

luie
01-18-2009, 06:38 PM
[QUOTE=Clydey;8024021]Nalbandian is every bit as talented as Federer. It's not unheard of for Dave to outplay Fed on a hard court.
[/QUOTE :haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

meihaditalab
01-18-2009, 08:52 PM
4th round. maybe the QF

New Balls Please
01-19-2009, 10:57 AM
It is conceivable for him to be a finalist... but when many people think that he can make the final the element of 'surprise' is compromised. I hope Nalbandian can be this year's 'surprise' finalist, or even better 'surprise' winner. But to go out on a limb, I predict Gasquet to be the surprise finalist.

Audacity
01-19-2009, 11:27 AM
No.