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Sydney R16: Gasquet def Simon 6-4 6-4

~*BGT*~
01-14-2009, 06:23 AM
His second top 10 win in a week. :yeah: And I believe he has now won his past 6 or is it 7 matches over fellow Frenchman? :p

But overall, abysmal match from Gilles, I suppose. 5 aces to 10 DF. :eek: And 8 breaks of serve for the two. Is this the WTA? :o

kyleskywalker007
01-14-2009, 06:23 AM
Straight sets! :hearts:

Maybe it is time to welcome Gasquet again? Does anyone know when was the last time he defeated a top 10 player?

PS: WTF with the double faults?

Snoo Foo
01-14-2009, 06:23 AM
:worship: Double :worship: Bagel :worship:

~*BGT*~
01-14-2009, 06:24 AM
Last week over Tsonga :)

tealeaves
01-14-2009, 06:26 AM
OMG, how come simon sucked in 2009 :sad:

ORGASMATRON
01-14-2009, 06:27 AM
This is awesome. Its a big statement by Gasquet to beat the two new French stars.

kyleskywalker007
01-14-2009, 06:27 AM
Last week over Tsonga :)

Haha, feel so dumb. But I mean, he is experiencing some sort of renaissance now. WHat about in 2008?

Stensland
01-14-2009, 06:28 AM
go richie! :)

too bad i couldn't admire that backhand of yours today.

jonathancrane
01-14-2009, 06:28 AM
Good for the sport

Davodus
01-14-2009, 06:29 AM
allllleeezzzzz! but gilles :( not good serving from gilles today
keep it up richard!

Vlad1980
01-14-2009, 06:34 AM
Better player won. :D:D

Schu
01-14-2009, 06:35 AM
:yeah: YEAH Richie

HORRIBLE serving from both but Richie dealt with it better than the mental giant Simon!!

Richie has more wins over top 10 players in one week than he did all last year :eek:. (and Richie 21 THAT'S progress no matter how bad his forehand was.)

Keep it up baby.

Kolya
01-14-2009, 06:37 AM
Good one son!!! :yeah:

Cloudygirl
01-14-2009, 06:40 AM
now this is better than the whole of 2008 already. Can't knock that.

duong
01-14-2009, 06:49 AM
Haha, feel so dumb. But I mean, he is experiencing some sort of renaissance now. WHat about in 2008?

I think he beat only Ferrer among the top-10 last year in Toronto.

But he had already beaten Simon last year in Wimbledon :)

oranges
01-14-2009, 06:55 AM
Keeep going :bounce:
From the scoreboard point of view, the strangest match I've seen in quite a while.

FedererBulgaria
01-14-2009, 06:57 AM
:worship:

kyleskywalker007
01-14-2009, 06:57 AM
I think he beat only Ferrer among the top-10 last year in Toronto.

But he had already beaten Simon last year in Wimbledon :)

Wow, what a sucky year he had. Thanks for the data.

tiffanykatya
01-14-2009, 07:26 AM
good job Richard:yeah:
Please do well in AO!

Kore
01-14-2009, 07:28 AM
well done Richard!! :D

Herdwick
01-14-2009, 07:34 AM
Nothing against Gilles but :bounce: Richie - so pleased. Two good wins in a week.

Or Levy
01-14-2009, 07:54 AM
Shall we add him to the list of dark horses for AO?

Kore
01-14-2009, 07:56 AM
Shall we add him to the list of dark horses for AO?


I reckon so!
I can see him getting far in AO for some reason. :D

JolánGagó
01-14-2009, 08:19 AM
Simon will be the Ferrer of 2009.

moldani
01-14-2009, 08:25 AM
Keeep going :bounce:
From the scoreboard point of view, the strangest match I've seen in quite a while.
The last time they played (at Wimbledon), the stats looked quite similar to this one. It looks as though, for some reason, they tend to play these kind of matches against each other. But as long as Gasquet wins them, there is no reason to be dissatisfied. With no disrespect to Simon, of course.

Eliande
01-14-2009, 08:52 AM
He's doing well so far. I have a good feeling about this season.:)
Well done, Richard!;)

reggie1
01-14-2009, 08:59 AM
It sounds as though Gilles didn't play very well but a win is a win. I'm very pleased with 2009 so far.

Crazy Girl
01-14-2009, 09:11 AM
Simon will be the Ferrer of 2009......and is this a good thing?:confused:

Crazy Girl
01-14-2009, 09:12 AM
It sounds as though Gilles didn't play very well but a win is a win. I'm very pleased with 2009 so far.Reggie, happy for you:smooch:

opeth84
01-14-2009, 09:14 AM
Simon will be the Ferrer of 2009.

Agreed 100%

JolánGagó
01-14-2009, 09:20 AM
.....and is this a good thing?:confused:

Im afraid not :scared:

reggie1
01-14-2009, 09:22 AM
I think from the sounds of it the heat got to both players, it's over 40 degrees out there at the mo.

Arhaych
01-14-2009, 09:30 AM
Gasquet needs to start making the finals of these tournaments, but today was a great win for him.

Thanos
01-14-2009, 09:33 AM
I think from the sounds of it the heat got to both players, it's over 40 degrees out there at the mo.

it was i got the red arms to prove it hehehe.

i got here for the second set. both players were very aggressive today, both going for their shots. gasquet many times chip the ball and brang simon forward then passed him. from what i saw, richie is becoming more of thinking tennis player instead of just showboating.

the two funniest moment of the match is when one of simon shot were called in. gasquet start saying something in french look at the crowd, put his arms saying it was like metre long. someone in the crowd responsed back doing the same gesture.

the other was when richie was attacking and simon threw up a lob over his head and he jumped and he did this massive yelp because he missed it hehehe.

Crazy Girl
01-14-2009, 09:35 AM
Im afraid not :scared::scared::scared::scared::scared:

reggie1
01-14-2009, 09:43 AM
it was i got the red arms to prove it hehehe.

i got here for the second set. both players were very aggressive today, both going for their shots. gasquet many times chip the ball and brang simon forward then passed him. from what i saw, richie is becoming more of thinking tennis player instead of just showboating.

the two funniest moment of the match is when one of simon shot were called in. gasquet start saying something in french look at the crowd, put his arms saying it was like metre long. someone in the crowd responsed back doing the same gesture.

the other was when richie was attacking and simon threw up a lob over his head and he jumped and he did this massive yelp because he missed it hehehe.

Which player had the most support from the french in your opinion? Somebody said there were lots of Frenchies cheering for Gilles.

Thanos
01-14-2009, 09:48 AM
Which player had the most support from the french in your opinion? Somebody said there were lots of Frenchies cheering for Gilles.

i didnt see many french.. but there were many hot females in the crowd constantly taking picture of both players...

the crowd was neutral for most part, but more people were going for richard because he was leading :o.

reggie1
01-14-2009, 09:51 AM
i didnt see many french.. but there were many hot females in the crowd constantly taking picture of both players...

the crowd was neutral for most part, but more people were going for richard because he was leading :o.
Gilles has become quite the hot show boat lately! :lol: He gets loads of female attention now.

Puschkin
01-14-2009, 09:54 AM
both players were very aggressive today, both going for their shots.
At least you seemed to have gotten some compensation for the serving error festival. :o

Olympus
01-14-2009, 09:59 AM
Which player had the most support from the french in your opinion? Somebody said there were lots of Frenchies cheering for Gilles.

There weren't that many frenchies in the crowd, maybe 10 or so? They were all shoting "allez Simon". :p

reggie1
01-14-2009, 10:02 AM
Ahh, no French cheering for Richard! :sad:

habibko
01-14-2009, 10:08 AM
wow definitely didn't expect this one, how come Gasquet the mental GOAT (NOT) could win in straight sets against the ever fighting Simon? maybe Richie has the Frenchies number? :worship:

malisha
01-14-2009, 10:12 AM
expected one

Crazy Girl
01-14-2009, 10:21 AM
Ahh, no French cheering for Richard! :sad:A fratricidal battle....:sad::sad:

duong
01-14-2009, 10:26 AM
Ahh, no French cheering for Richard! :sad:

Maybe it's better for Gasquet this way :lol:

maybe that's why he wins over French players actually ... because the French are against him :haha:

More seriously : it's not a popularity poll, if it's just 10 people !

malisha
01-14-2009, 10:56 AM
Simon will be the Ferrer of 2009.

just like he was Ferrer(2007) in 2008...good eye mate

gasguet#1
01-14-2009, 11:46 AM
Another Great Win today for Richie, He sure is doing well in his matches against the Frenchies
& now we have Jeremy Chardy waiting next, You have to like Richies chances of making it too his 2nd Semi Final in a row,

I'm sure a lot of the top players at Melbourne next week will be hoping that they don't draw a confident Richie in a 3rd Round Match Up

Keep the summer down under on fire Richie

scarecrows
01-14-2009, 12:04 PM
just like he was Ferrer(2007) in 2008...good eye mate

Ferrer made a GS semifinal in 2007

reggie1
01-14-2009, 12:05 PM
Maybe it's better for Gasquet this way :lol:

maybe that's why he wins over French players actually ... because the French are against him :haha:

More seriously : it's not a popularity poll, if it's just 10 people !

No I know, I just thought he would think "all the french ,well all 10 of them are cheering for Gilles!" :lol:

Dini
01-14-2009, 12:36 PM
Gasquet!! Richie you have done me proud. Beating the top 2 Frenchmen within a week is certainly sending signals. He is making a big statement and I hope this is the restart of something very good for Richie. Keep it up :)

Venle
01-14-2009, 12:36 PM
Richie allez :worship:

Caio_Brasil
01-14-2009, 12:43 PM
Great :yeah:

~*BGT*~
01-14-2009, 01:11 PM
the two funniest moment of the match is when one of simon shot were called in. gasquet start saying something in french look at the crowd, put his arms saying it was like metre long. someone in the crowd responsed back doing the same gesture.

the other was when richie was attacking and simon threw up a lob over his head and he jumped and he did this massive yelp because he missed it hehehe.

Sounds like Richard is learning to entertain the crowd by not just his tennis. :p

gambit84
01-14-2009, 01:18 PM
I couldnt see the match but of course if Gasquet plays good is stronger and so I hope was so and not a bad show of both players

btw the season is just started and Gilles needs always a little bit more time to start playing well

Schu
01-14-2009, 01:20 PM
Sounds like Richard is learning to entertain the crowd by not just his tennis. :p

He learned some lessons from Stepanak.

THe stats were horrible, both served poorly - Richie at 34% first serves, when is the last time ANY men's player won a match at 34%? Last year if Richie couldn't get a first serve in, he pretty much just folded - so nice to see he hung in.

As for Simon, 10 DF! While he was obviously off, SOME of the horrendous serving just might have been due to Richie's aggressive returning. His coach said that was something they were working on during off season and it helped him agaisnt Tsonga. He is returning from a much more aggressive position and when you pressure the server, good things happen.

Nice Aussie run, keep it up Richie

patch55
01-14-2009, 02:29 PM
He learned some lessons from Stepanak.

THe stats were horrible, both served poorly - Richie at 34% first serves, when is the last time ANY men's player won a match at 34%?


Last year at Indian Wells Mardy Fish's first serve percentage was 34% when he beat Roger Federer.

ImmzB
01-14-2009, 02:49 PM
Come On Richie

Next Chardy

You Should Win This.

Well Done!

HattonWBA
01-14-2009, 03:00 PM
Yeeeeeeeessssss True talent prevails

groundstroke
01-14-2009, 03:35 PM
It's a very, very small step for Gasquet, to crawl out of this terrible pond he has fallen in. He needs to win this tournament.

Mateya
01-14-2009, 03:38 PM
A bit surprising for me, but you never know with Richie.

Gilles, put your serve together. :wavey:

richie21
01-14-2009, 03:43 PM
It's a very, very small step for Gasquet, to crawl out of this terrible pond he has fallen in. He needs to win this tournament.

Agree.
Considering how bad Simon seemingly played,it actually doesn't mean a lot.

Jōris
01-14-2009, 03:45 PM
Reading richie21's posts is like watching someone drown. You could have saved him, but you just didn't want to.

groundstroke
01-14-2009, 03:49 PM
Agree.
Considering how bad Simon seemingly played,it actually doesn't mean a lot.
Indeed so, if Gasquet really wants to recreate that BabyFederer name tag a lot of us gave him a long, long time ago, he should be beating Simon 6-2 6-1. However he won, so it's a start, winning Sydney is an absolute must for Gasquet, he doesn't have the mental assurance of Nadal or the mental genius of Federer, he becomes too passive when he's not confident, winning trophies makes him confident.

Rafa = Fed Killa
01-14-2009, 03:51 PM
Simon must have been drunk.

Losing to Gasgirl is horrible.

Davodus
01-14-2009, 04:04 PM
Reading richie21's posts is like watching someone drown. You could have saved him, but you just didn't want to.

:spit:

roberthenman
01-14-2009, 04:07 PM
great match :yeah:

anon57
01-14-2009, 04:26 PM
Indeed so, if Gasquet really wants to recreate that BabyFederer name tag a lot of us gave him a long, long time ago, he should be beating Simon 6-2 6-1. However he won, so it's a start, winning Sydney is an absolute must for Gasquet, he doesn't have the mental assurance of Nadal or the mental genius of Federer, he becomes too passive when he's not confident, winning trophies makes him confident.

Actually if Gasquet was trying to recreate Fed's results against Simon, Gasquet would have lost:p;)

Nice to see Gasquet winning again though:yeah:, hope this means he's started to find his way again after a dissapointing 2008.

timafi
01-14-2009, 04:51 PM
bravo Richard:yeah:

EternalxJourney
01-14-2009, 05:29 PM
Keep going Richard! fingers crossed.

Schu
01-14-2009, 05:49 PM
Agree.
Considering how bad Simon seemingly played,it actually doesn't mean a lot.

DID you SEE the match? Was everything poor about Simon's game or just that serve? Perhaps SOME of SImon's poor serving was due to a more aggressive RIchard putting pressure on the server. RIchard's serve was certainly nothing to write home about either... but why would one ever expect you to see that.

And NO I'm not thinking that this was a HUGE win for Gasquest or deluded into thinking he is back to TOp 10 status BUT it DID mean that he was able to win a second match against a TOP 10 player while serving very poorly himself. But oh - two wins against TOp 10 fellow French players full of confidence in one week was a complete fluke and he was just lucky that both handed him the matches with Richard having absolutely nothing to do with it :rolleyes: Your expectation of Gasquet must have been so high at one time that you can't even acknowledge good effort and a win from him anymore.

MsTree
01-14-2009, 06:46 PM
Aw Gilles :sad:
Let's hope it's because you're working on your serve your stats were so bad :(
Can't believe you let Richie win when his were worse!!! :o
Off back to the practise court with you!
Well done Richie (again) :rolleyes:

groundstroke
01-14-2009, 06:54 PM
DID you SEE the match? Was everything poor about Simon's game or just that serve? Perhaps SOME of SImon's poor serving was due to a more aggressive RIchard putting pressure on the server. RIchard's serve was certainly nothing to write home about either... but why would one ever expect you to see that.

And NO I'm not thinking that this was a HUGE win for Gasquest or deluded into thinking he is back to TOp 10 status BUT it DID mean that he was able to win a second match against a TOP 10 player while serving very poorly himself. But oh - two wins against TOp 10 fellow French players full of confidence in one week was a complete fluke and he was just lucky that both handed him the matches with Richard having absolutely nothing to do with it :rolleyes: Your expectation of Gasquet must have been so high at one time that you can't even acknowledge good effort and a win from him anymore.
You can see why people expected so much of Gasquet, in 2005 he was causing the likes of Federer and Nadal big trouble in all courts, same in 2006, last year he was a shadow of the player he used to be, only his serve has gotten better, but even that's failing at the moment.

gasguet#1
01-14-2009, 07:14 PM
You can see why people expected so much of Gasquet, in 2005 he was causing the likes of Federer and Nadal big trouble in all courts, same in 2006, last year he was a shadow of the player he used to be, only his serve has gotten better, but even that's failing at the moment

If you look at the stats from his opening round win against the defending titleholder Tursunov, who Richie had always seemed to have trouble playing was 1-4 before that opening round match up, I'm sure any player would be impressed by the numbers in that match, considering he was the underdog in both of these matches with HH vs Tursunov & ranking with Simon, these two wins are a step in the right direction for Richie.
Sometimes you have to scap & fight it out for a win, sure the stats for the match were pretty poor, but for Simon who is ranked #7 in the world, he wouldn't be that impressed with his stats for such an elite player

Maybe the heat got to both Richie & Gilles during this match-up,

Anyway Richie got through without impressing anyone with his stats, a few months ago a match like this could have easily turned into a whitewash for Richie, He is learning to fight & do whatever he needs to do for a win even when he is playing poorly or not too a level he wants to play at

Schu
01-14-2009, 07:24 PM
You can see why people expected so much of Gasquet, in 2005 he was causing the likes of Federer and Nadal big trouble in all courts, same in 2006, last year he was a shadow of the player he used to be, only his serve has gotten better, but even that's failing at the moment.

True, but many players have dips in their progress. Even if he never gets better than he is right now that is still no reason to continue to compare him to what everyone EXPECTED him to be or even to what he WAS. Live in the present and deal with it.

meihaditalab
01-14-2009, 07:28 PM
beat his country man :)

~*BGT*~
01-14-2009, 07:49 PM
DID you SEE the match? Was everything poor about Simon's game or just that serve? Perhaps SOME of SImon's poor serving was due to a more aggressive RIchard putting pressure on the server. RIchard's serve was certainly nothing to write home about either... but why would one ever expect you to see that.

And NO I'm not thinking that this was a HUGE win for Gasquest or deluded into thinking he is back to TOp 10 status BUT it DID mean that he was able to win a second match against a TOP 10 player while serving very poorly himself. But oh - two wins against TOp 10 fellow French players full of confidence in one week was a complete fluke and he was just lucky that both handed him the matches with Richard having absolutely nothing to do with it :rolleyes: Your expectation of Gasquet must have been so high at one time that you can't even acknowledge good effort and a win from him anymore.


Richard could cure AIDS with his tear drops and richie21 would say, "He should have discovered his healing powers years ago." :rolleyes:

Tommy fan
01-14-2009, 08:01 PM
allez!!! :rocker2: Good win!

gasguet#1
01-14-2009, 08:01 PM
True, but many players have dips in their progress. Even if he never gets better than he is right now that is still no reason to continue to compare him to what everyone EXPECTED him to be or even to what he WAS. Live in the present and deal with it.

Totally agree Schu..... so many times you see players have a breakthrough year then go back to the pack, IMHO It's looking like 2009 is going to be the Richie of old that we want to see more & more, pretty hard to not be excited with two wins over top ten players in the first two tournements of the year!,

Matt01
01-14-2009, 08:30 PM
Reading richie21's posts is like watching someone drown. You could have saved him, but you just didn't want to.


Can't you just shut up for once? :rolleyes:


Simon must have been drunk.

Losing to Gasgirl is horrible.


LOL...at least that is original..I haven't heard that before...

Tutu
01-14-2009, 09:03 PM
Lol Gilles, you suck. Oh well win AO. :D

Cloudygirl
01-14-2009, 09:04 PM
Richard could cure AIDS with his tear drops and richie21 would say, "He should have discovered his healing powers years ago." :rolleyes:


:haha:

oranges
01-14-2009, 09:10 PM
Can't you just shut up for once? :rolleyes:


Surely, you meant to direct that one to richie21 :lol:

richie21
01-14-2009, 09:23 PM
You can see why people expected so much of Gasquet, in 2005 he was causing the likes of Federer and Nadal big trouble in all courts, same in 2006, last year he was a shadow of the player he used to be, only his serve has gotten better, but even that's failing at the moment.

Finally a Gasquetaire who is not being a fanboy in this board.....

richie21
01-14-2009, 09:27 PM
True, but many players have dips in their progress. Even if he never gets better than he is right now that is still no reason to continue to compare him to what everyone EXPECTED him to be or even to what he WAS. Live in the present and deal with it.

Rarely beetween 18 and 22 though....:rolleyes:
Those are years where you are not only supposed to not get worse but to get better.
Gasquet is one of the very rare (if not the only one)player i've seen in the last decade whose level of play has gotten worse beetween 18 and 22: it's completely abnormal and says something about his true dedication during that period or/and about his coaching staff.

BaselineSmash
01-14-2009, 09:40 PM
Simon looked off the pace at the Hopman Cup, exho as it may be, and it seems like his bad form is continuing. I'm not convinced these wins for Gasquet count for all that much (Tsonga was poor in Brisbane), but at least he's showing some glimmers of promise for the season ahead. It would be great if he could make big inroads in the AO draw, but I've never been impressed by his 5-set stamina, and in the words of Fed slams are a "different animal".

Matt01
01-14-2009, 09:50 PM
Surely, you meant to direct that one to richie21 :lol:


Oh yes, sorry :o


So to richie21: Shut up! :p

Byrd
01-14-2009, 09:52 PM
Rarely beetween 18 and 22 though....:rolleyes:
Those are years where you are not only supposed to not get worse but to get better.
Gasquet is one of the very rare (if not the only one)player i've seen in the last decade whose level of play has gotten worse beetween 18 and 22: it's completely abnormal and says something about his true dedication during that period or/and about his coaching staff.

Mate stop ranting, if you bothered to look off the court, you would know Gasquet has had alot of problems like shoulder injuries which have hampered him, and problems with the french federation and the public, as he was the only real French player having some form of success. Now that Tsonga, Simon and a crop of frenchmen have done well, notice how he's having better results already this year than the whole of last year due to the pressure being taken off him. Give the guy a chance, and don't expect perfection from him every match, as this is what leads to pressure, as Federer stated last year,'I've created a monster' in reference to being so good all the time. All the best players have bad days.

groundstroke
01-14-2009, 10:48 PM
Rarely beetween 18 and 22 though....:rolleyes:
Those are years where you are not only supposed to not get worse but to get better.
Gasquet is one of the very rare (if not the only one)player i've seen in the last decade whose level of play has gotten worse beetween 18 and 22: it's completely abnormal and says something about his true dedication during that period or/and about his coaching staff.
Gasquet isn't the first, Baghdatis is similar to him, he peaked very early, reaching the AO final and then having that great match with Agassi, but injuries have ruined him, Gasquet's game has just gotten worse, his confidence has gone and mentally he is afraid to attack, something I didn't see in 2005 Monte Carlo when he was a teenager..

richie21
01-14-2009, 11:00 PM
Gasquet isn't the first, Baghdatis is similar to him, he peaked very early, reaching the AO final and then having that great match with Agassi, but injuries have ruined him, Gasquet's game has just gotten worse, his confidence has gone and mentally he is afraid to attack, something I didn't see in 2005 Monte Carlo when he was a teenager..

Not really.
Baghdatis reached the AO final at almost 21.

littleash
01-15-2009, 12:42 AM
Gas :clap2:

Forehander
01-15-2009, 04:37 PM
You guys are forgetting that they're friends. They know each others game very well. Gasquet hits much more freely against fellow countrymen.

Rumour
01-15-2009, 09:45 PM
Good result for Gasquet but not all that remarkable or surprising to me given the opponent (not a Simon fan and don't rate his game too highly despite his current ranking, however deserved it may be). What I hope is that this run of good form builds and improves his confidence because I believe that was the biggest obstacle last season, especially during the DC fiasco and leadup to RG. Once that is set then the other more tangible tools he needs to succeed on the court, like fitness and strategy, will be easier to finetune and execute.

Schu
01-15-2009, 10:19 PM
Rarely beetween 18 and 22 though....:rolleyes:
Those are years where you are not only supposed to not get worse but to get better.
Gasquet is one of the very rare (if not the only one)player i've seen in the last decade whose level of play has gotten worse beetween 18 and 22: it's completely abnormal and says something about his true dedication during that period or/and about his coaching staff.

Speaking of abnormal ...

I surrender - you win! Your endless supply of negativity and unfullfilled expectations has worn me out.

Forehander
01-16-2009, 12:24 AM
Richie, I bet I am more of a fan of Sebastien Grosjean than you are a fan of Richard Gasquets.