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Battle of the "has beens"

kyleskywalker007
01-12-2009, 07:39 AM
Just thinking about past seasons and former great players, i remembered Safin, Hewitt and Ferrero. They all reached nr1 at some point, they all won at least a slam each and they were great players on their prime.

Now, it is safe to say that the best is already in the past, but---> Do you think any of them has any chance of having at least another good or respectable season?

It pains me to see them so low on the rankings....:(

Ferrero Forever
01-12-2009, 08:11 AM
Without bias, I do honestly think Ferrero. Just because Safin said he's going to retire at the end of the year, and he's just not consistent enough to make a comeback. Might get some great performances from him, but not on a regular basis. Hewitt has more important things to worry about than tennis, and he probably won't play enough to make a comeback, though he's always a dangerous player. At least Ferrero doesn't seem like he's going to retire at the next year at least, and tennis is his main focus. At least I hope I'm right anyway

gjr
01-12-2009, 08:52 AM
As long as Hewitt stays healthy he'll move up the rankings.

Gandalf
01-12-2009, 10:51 AM
Hewitt is the only one I give some chance of improving. Safin can have the random great tournament, like Wimbledon last year, but I don't see him returning to the top 10 again. Plus, as somebody has said, he's retiring at the end of the year, and I think his motivation at the moment is not where it should be.

Ferrero could make a comeback, but honestly he's been longer an average player than he was a top player. I know he had his injuries and such, but he's lacking the belief in himself and without that he will not achieve anything, IMO.

Hewitt, on the other hand, would be ranked much higher as long as he stayed healthy, and hasn't had the horrible losses that the other two have had in this period. I don't think he can return to the top 3-4, but top 10 should be a realistic goal for him. In fact, he's the only one of the three that I wouldn't be surprised to see making a run at the Australian.

Venle
01-12-2009, 11:19 AM
I voted for Hewitt

Ferrero has chances too, if he stays healthy

sammy01
01-12-2009, 11:38 AM
depends how you define success, i can see ferrero winning a couple of small clay court tournaments and sneeking into the top 20 with a full season.
i can see safin having 2 or 3 great tournaments having a couple of huge wins, bigger than anything ferrero will have but not consistent so not breaking top 20.
hewitt i have no idea, he never seems to be fit. fit and healthy hes probably the best shot to get back into the top 10 but i doubt he will be fit for more than 2 or 3 months this year.

so if you define success on ranking then ferrero, if you define success as beating a couple of huge players and being a threat to anyone then safin and if you define success as shagging bec cartwright then i'd go with hewitt.

Kolya
01-12-2009, 11:45 AM
Nope.

kyleskywalker007
01-12-2009, 06:52 PM
Well, yes, I don't think they can be a threat on a yearly base, the best is already behind them.

I only hope that before they retire, they do something. I don't want them to just die down...:sad:

AnnaK_4ever
01-12-2009, 06:56 PM
They all are done.

Henry Kaspar
01-12-2009, 09:27 PM
On his day Safin can still be a scare to anyone. The other's are history.

Andi-M
01-12-2009, 09:35 PM
It depends on what you mean, to be honest all 3 could make top 25 again.
I think if they stay injury-free, but top 10 i highly doubt.

cobalt60
01-12-2009, 10:13 PM
I don't see any of them being consistent enough to put together much this year. And they are not alone. There are so many other players who had their "day in the sun" who are now hovering lower in the rankings then they ever expected to be.

stzenit
01-13-2009, 04:21 AM
Don't see Hewitt doing anything.Ferrero i hope could win a tournament. Safin is unpredictable i mean who would have thought he would have made the Semi Final of Wimbledon last year, so maybe one more Quarter Final slam run from Safin. However i don't see any of them reaching the Quarters of any slam this year. Definitely none to get inside the top 10.

kyleskywalker007
01-13-2009, 05:58 AM
I never though Ferrero would suck so badly after the stellar 2003 season he had...

And well, what to say about Hewitt and Safin? Both of them had great final seasons in 2005. Both finishing top 5 if I remember well.... And then....such a horrible period of suckage!:mad:

Audacity
01-13-2009, 06:01 AM
Don't see any of them doing to much more. Hewitt wants to be top 10 by the end of the season so he can have a good shot at the slams next season, but I just can't see him getting top 10. Might crack top 20, but that's it.

helgagonzalez
01-13-2009, 06:56 AM
i vote safin.;)
With him, you just never know. I think he still has it in him. :D

Jimnik
01-13-2009, 10:59 AM
None of them really but it's a poll with Safin in it so...

CmonAussie
01-13-2009, 01:28 PM
depends how you define success, i can see ferrero winning a couple of small clay court tournaments and sneeking into the top 20 with a full season.
i can see safin having 2 or 3 great tournaments having a couple of huge wins, bigger than anything ferrero will have but not consistent so not breaking top 20.
hewitt i have no idea, he never seems to be fit. fit and healthy hes probably the best shot to get back into the top 10 but i doubt he will be fit for more than 2 or 3 months this year.

so if you define success on ranking then ferrero, if you define success as beating a couple of huge players and being a threat to anyone then safin and if you define success as shagging bec cartwright then i'd go with hewitt.

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JCF hasn`t won any title since Madrid 2003>> so 5.5 year winless streak! i don`t think he has the mental fortitude to win tourneys anymore [not even MM events]:sad:

Safin should have the best chance on paper, and if he can recapture his motivation he can certainly win titles.. but then again the last time he won anything was AO 05.. Anyway we can be certain that Marat will have a lot of success with the ladies for atleast another 15 years [hearthrobs like him get used to good life:devil:]!

Hewitt has the mentality but i`m not sure if he can stay fit & whether his game can hold up these days.. certainly he can win MM titles [last won @ Las Vegas 07], but beyond that i don`t expect much! One more year in the Top-20 is realistic though;)

ORGASMATRON
01-13-2009, 03:15 PM
Hewitt doesnt have the talent to get back, his dne forever and so is Ferero. Safin has so much talent that you can ever count him out, look what happened at wimby.

Jozie
01-13-2009, 04:22 PM
Hewitt doesnt have the talent to get back, his dne forever and so is Ferero. Safin has so much talent that you can ever count him out, look what happened at wimby.

I am sorry, Ruan you are wrong. I have always admired Safin and Ferrero, however ....

Lleyton has what it takes to work hard, he's a great fighter, he's tenacious, he's overcoming a major injury and I would certainly not write this counterpuncher off.

At this stage of Lleyton's career, tenacity and hard work count for a lot, and out of the three in the past, Lleyton has proved to be the most tenacious of the lot!

Diprosalic
01-13-2009, 04:24 PM
the thread makes me sad. thinking about hewitt and safin what they have and what they could have achieved

Deejay
01-13-2009, 05:43 PM
the only way Lleyton will make it back into the top 10 is if he plays a full calender, basically meaning the sort of calender he played in 2004 which got him back into the top 5 after falling to 19 or something the year before. And now he has two children i dont expect him to make that sacrifice and even if he did, he would have to play the best tennis of his life and that is not gonna happen i'm afraid - theres just too many players out there that can beat him

kyleskywalker007
01-13-2009, 06:10 PM
Well yes it's quite sad actually....But well, it is the way things have developed for them. It would be fun if you could add the three of them to the current batch of good players, I mean playing at a high level.

ORGASMATRON
01-13-2009, 06:20 PM
I am sorry, Ruan you are wrong. I have always admired Safin and Ferrero, however ....

Lleyton has what it takes to work hard, he's a great fighter, he's tenacious, he's overcoming a major injury and I would certainly not write this counterpuncher off.

At this stage of Lleyton's career, tenacity and hard work count for a lot, and out of the three in the past, Lleyton has proved to be the most tenacious of the lot!

Didnt know there was other South Africans here. How can you say i am wrong though, like you have a blueprint for the truth?! Hewitt has just become a wuss, thats all there is too it. He's the opposite of what he was in those years he ruled tennis, i used to admire his attitude. I dont know what happened, maybe his gf screwed his brains out or something. Either way he's become soft. Its too late for him, too much injury and years passed.

ad-out
01-13-2009, 06:26 PM
Safin is very close to the top 25 right now. A good run at the AO and he could break the top 20 easily.. I would love for all 3 of them to have a good year.

brent-o
01-13-2009, 07:18 PM
I think Hewitt has a few good runs in him. He may be slowed down because of his age and injuries, but I'm seen in his matches over the last two years he still has a great fighting spirit. I can't say the same for Safin. Ferrero, I have no clue.

Aurora
01-13-2009, 07:32 PM
the thread makes me sad. thinking about hewitt and safin what they have and what they could have achievedwhat Hewitt could have achieved? :confused:
IMO he did very well with his career and I can't see much missed opportunities. His recent injury problems probably only prevented him for a prolonged stay in top20-25 and some MM titles - for a former nr1 and GSwinner that isn't a big loss. He was a GScontender for much longer than I expected possible.

born_on_clay
01-13-2009, 07:37 PM
They're all dead <;D

Crazy Girl
01-13-2009, 10:53 PM
Amen.

Jozie
01-14-2009, 03:23 AM
Didnt know there was other South Africans here. How can you say i am wrong though, like you have a blueprint for the truth?! Hewitt has just become a wuss, thats all there is too it. He's the opposite of what he was in those years he ruled tennis, i used to admire his attitude. I dont know what happened, maybe his gf screwed his brains out or something. Either way he's become soft. Its too late for him, too much injury and years passed.

You are wrong to say Hewitt does not have the talent to come back! Hewitt has come off a big injury, and is quickly getting some form back.

Perhaps he is done in that he will never reach Top 10, or win a GS, but out of the three (Safin, Ferrero and Hewitt), in my opinion, Hewitt will make the best comeback.

*bunny*
01-14-2009, 04:29 AM
And they happen to be my top three faves. :rolleyes:
O well, being also a fan of Goran I know anything can happen if you support someone long enough, and I hope all of them will make a big noise again because they all do still have potentials.
Even if not, it won't change that I'll keep suporting them and take pleasure in watching them play until the day they call it quit. :)

kyleskywalker007
01-14-2009, 05:01 AM
And they happen to be my top three faves. :rolleyes:
O well, being also a fan of Goran I know anything can happen if you support someone long enough, and I hope all of them will make a big noise again because they all do still have potentials.
Even if not, it won't change that I'll keep suporting them and take pleasure in watching them play until the day they call it quit. :)

Oops, wouldn't like to be in your shoes....

*bunny*
01-14-2009, 05:24 AM
Oops, wouldn't like to be in your shoes....
Never asked you to.
So what, you're a gloryhunter who only support a player in his prime?
Well, each to his/her own I guess. ;)

kyleskywalker007
01-14-2009, 05:31 AM
Never asked you to.
So what, you're a gloryhunter who only support a player in his prime?
Well, each to his/her own I guess. ;)

No, of course you do good. You are no bandwagonner....In fact, the player I support the most loves to constantly let me down....SO it's not like I can't understand you...:sad:

*bunny*
01-14-2009, 05:49 AM
No, of course you do good. You are no bandwagonner....In fact, the player I support the most loves to constantly let me down....SO it's not like I can't understand you...:sad:
I like Nalby too and hope he'll win a big one! A GS and/or DC!
But let me just say that I don't see much point in this thread, sorry. :shrug:

kyleskywalker007
01-14-2009, 06:11 AM
Well, they are three very important players from this decade, they have many fans and I don't know, I wanted to see what the fans thought...

I guess it is worthy of a thread, and anyway, there are worse threads around, :angel:

Kore
01-14-2009, 07:22 AM
I have always been a big fan of Hewitt and Safin, but i can't see a comeback from any of the three to be honest...

i hope they do have a good season though, especially for safin since it's probably his last year.

kyleskywalker007
07-07-2009, 08:05 AM
Bump!

I know the hot topic nowadays is Federer....but I think Hewitt deserves some credit for this resurgence. I created this topic in January, and, most posters agreed Hewitt had a chance of doing some damage again, good for them ;)
Safin's in his last season and I don't think we'll see anything else from him, and ferrero's just the same :/

Goldenoldie
07-07-2009, 08:23 AM
Interesting to see that this thread was started in January, and two out of the 3 players mentioned did well at Wimbledon and moved up the rankings.

Kudos to the OP and all who backed Hewitt and Ferrero.