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Who has greatest chance of joining the Big 4?

Halba
01-12-2009, 07:37 AM
Who has the greatest chance of joining the big 4?

I.e. become a big 5?

this player has to consistently beat other members of the big 4 and also do well in grand slam play

The contenders are in my opinion

1. JO WILFRIED TSONGA - has beaten djoker 3 times, murray once ,nadal once but has not beaten federer in 1 attempt.

2. GILLES SIMON - played brilliant last year, but poorly in grand slams. Lacks the power game(i.e. big serve or forehand) to threaten at slam level, although is improving his weaponry. 6

3. JUAN MARTIN DEL POTRO - notched zero wins over big 4. The big 4 own del potro.

4. ERNESTS GULBIS - has notched 1 solitary win over Djokovic. Took a set from Rafael nadal. Has played reasonably in slams especially french open last year. Is weak mentally and prone to rash/over hit shot making. Is still young.

5. DAVID NALBANDIAN - has beaten all 4 players, but has been woeful and downright dismal at slam level. We know nalby is highly talented ,but mentally he is off at times. Also his serve is a liability. We have seen the best from nalby at slam level.

6. MARIN CILIC - has no wins over big 4, but competed well against Djoko in US OPEN and competed well against Murray in Madrid. Has won 2 atp titles and has a good backhand.

Mimi
01-12-2009, 07:40 AM
i voted Gublis :wavey:

kyleskywalker007
01-12-2009, 07:42 AM
It's safe to say the big four is quite far from the rest right now...

However, i think it could soon become Big 3....if the Djoker doesn't do something!

MIMIC
01-12-2009, 07:49 AM
I don't think there's a Big "Four" just yet. Nadal, Federer and Djokovic all have at least one slam. And in the point differential, Murray is closer to Davydenko than he is to Djokovic.

crude oil
01-12-2009, 07:49 AM
nalbygoat has played well in australia before.

Halba
01-12-2009, 08:06 AM
I don't think there's a Big "Four" just yet. Nadal, Federer and Djokovic all have at least one slam. And in the point differential, Murray is closer to Davydenko than he is to Djokovic.

murray has a slam final, the latest one. he is in incredible form, taking the standard of tennis to new heights.

Halba
01-12-2009, 08:06 AM
It's safe to say the big four is quite far from the rest right now...

However, i think it could soon become Big 3....if the Djoker doesn't do something!

djoker just won masters cup. he has good clay court credentials and a good record at the french. he is still big 4. gulbis is frankly disappointing. he got wiped in last meeting v murray(st petersburg) and is not playing that well. del potro is OWNED by the big 4 its not funny...he has relatively weaker movement, but played fantastic in the us open 2007 and hard court events prior before getting injured.

VolandriFan
01-12-2009, 08:09 AM
Add Monfils to that list too.

ORGASMATRON
01-12-2009, 08:16 AM
Well first of all its not the big four yet, although it might become that at some point. For Murray to be part of the big four he has to win a slam. Then im also pretty dissapointed you didnt put Monfils in there. So i didnt vote.

MIMIC
01-12-2009, 08:17 AM
murray has a slam final, the latest one. he is in incredible form, taking the standard of tennis to new heights.

True enough, but one hasn't truly "arrived" until they get that first slam title under their belt. Murray IS the man to beat right now but I think he still has a little ways to go to prove himself.

But for the sake of your thread, I'd say that Gulbis stands the biggest chance of turning a "Big 4" into a "Big 5". Just a guess. Then again, there are plenty of other guys who could just as easily be as successful.

gjr
01-12-2009, 08:25 AM
Barring injury I don't see anyone getting close to being ranked 1-4 except for the guys who are there. It could become an interesting 5 if Tsonga can get a full season in, playing the tennis he did at the start and end of last season.

People can talk all they want about if it's a big 3 or 4 but Murray's only going to get better. Quite a bit better actually. I'm still not convinced he'll win a slam this year but should have chances at AO and USO at least.

nastoff
01-12-2009, 08:28 AM
Simon could, has become very solid.

Murray is imo part of the big 4, it's not a matter of a legacy - to win a major or several majors - but a matter of being consistently near the top and recording wins against the other 3 ( and at the moment he's doing it quite consistently ).
He might as well not win a grand slam this season - only a few finals and semis miight be enough to see him getting closer.

Jankovic is the current number one in the WTA without a grand slam yet - and that is another example.

moldani
01-12-2009, 08:36 AM
Many of you might smile at me for this, but I would say Richard Gasquet - provided he gets his act together.

Guevara01
01-12-2009, 08:44 AM
Many of you might smile at me for this, but I would say Richard Gasquet - provided he gets his act together.

We live in hope.

Out of that list I would say Tsonga, but Monfils has a good game too.

ORGASMATRON
01-12-2009, 08:51 AM
We live in hope.

Out of that list I would say Tsonga, but Monfils has a good game too.

Agreed

Halba
01-12-2009, 09:01 AM
yes monfils should be added to the list. he is a superb athlete and really good on clay. he's always a threat at the french and also on hard courts. he was meant to break out years ago. as was richie. they never quite lived up to potential.

reggie1
01-12-2009, 09:01 AM
Many of you might smile at me for this, but I would say Richard Gasquet - provided he gets his act together.

Well let's hope he does, it would make me and his other fans do cartwheels of joy! :D
For now though, I have voted for T'Songa.

Action Jackson
01-12-2009, 09:08 AM
Looking for the next person to bandwagon halba?

Nathaliia
01-12-2009, 09:10 AM
For this moment being the big 4 looks too dominant, but probably AO will give us some answer to the questions, for example if Monfils can keep up his level of game from the match against Nadal, or will he brainfarting like against Roddick.

With all due respect check the Gulbis' ranking. One win over Djokovic doesn't automatically make him a God (especially backed-up with a loss to Mathieu), although this is how MTF works.

Simon had a great last season where he improved much, the first few weeks will show us if he is sticking to that level.

federernadalfan
01-12-2009, 09:48 AM
out of that list simon has the greatest chance

Jimnik
01-12-2009, 09:51 AM
I'm sure they'll all have their moments. If one of them makes a slam or masters final they'll get hyped as the biggest threat. But I can't see any of them doing it consistently, at least not this year.

fast_clay
01-12-2009, 10:36 AM
Radek 'Big Love' Stepanek

Venle
01-12-2009, 11:20 AM
Nah, they're too dominant at the moment

Daniel25
01-12-2009, 12:07 PM
I see Del Potro and Monfils make it a big 6 soon!

-Evita-
01-12-2009, 12:26 PM
I'm a Gulbis fan and he has no chance of getting into the top 5 this year. I'd be very happy with a top 20.

Forehander
01-12-2009, 01:27 PM
I must give it to Tsonga. There are still HUGE room for improvement towards his game. However injury is an unfortunate issue for him.

meihaditalab
01-12-2009, 02:16 PM
Del Potro:)

NinaNina19
01-12-2009, 02:51 PM
I think Tsonga if he stays healthy. I've given up hope that Davydenko will play really well consistently. If not, then maybe Del Potro although he has to improve his movement, net play, and serve or MAYBE Gasquet and Monfils. I don't see Gulbis becoming that consistent soon. He might be consistent enough the make the lower parts of the top 10 but I doubt number 5. So in this order I will say most likely to become a strong #5:Edit sorry I forgot about Cilic. Maybe I would put him around Gulbis in terms of his chances at being a strong top 5. He doesn't have the weapons of Gulbis but he's more likely to be consistent in his results imo.
Tsonga
Del Potro
Davydenko
Monfils
Gasquet
Gulbis

ORGASMATRON
01-12-2009, 03:03 PM
I'd say Monfils, Tsonga and Del Potro has the best chance. But once again i dont think this 'top' thing should be taken too far. Its about winning the slams and so far only the top three have shown they can do it.

NinaNina19
01-12-2009, 03:03 PM
I'd say Monfils, Tsonga and Del Potro has the best chance. But once again i dont think this 'top' thing should be taken too far. Its about winning the slams and so far only the top three have shown they can do it.

:rolleyes:

Iván
01-12-2009, 03:15 PM
Jmdp

Johnny Groove
01-12-2009, 03:34 PM
Add Monfils to that list too.

Agreed now that he's healthy

Crazy Girl
01-12-2009, 03:44 PM
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Xristos
01-12-2009, 04:08 PM
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