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Can Djokovic protect his Australian Open Title?

jeremda01
01-11-2009, 07:57 AM
Can Djokovic protect his Australian Open Title?
Or will someone else steal it from him?

wilmar
01-11-2009, 08:11 AM
I don't think so.
First, he has never defended any titles thus far (if I remember correctly).
More importantly, his current form has not been positive or impressive.

To sidetrack, even though Murray seems to be the front-runner now, I have this funny feeling he won't win AO this year.

Both Federer and Nadal haven't been red-hot as well.

Could possibly have a dark horse win again this year. Speaking of which, is AO the Slam with the most number of surprising/unexpected winners/finalist in recent years? (eg Korda/Johansson/Schuttler/Clement/?)

federernadalfan
01-11-2009, 08:12 AM
no he is incompetent

flexeter
01-11-2009, 08:37 AM
Can he? Yes.
Will he? No.

StanShapkar
01-11-2009, 08:43 AM
Lots of things depends on the draw.
If Djoko goes to Rafa's part of the draw and has a draw without any dangerous floaters- he could make it. Not very likely though.
If he manages to beat Rafa in the 1/2 semis , and has to face Murray in the finals, there is a chance. He certanly doesn't forget how to beat Muzza. This Murray is way better that Murray of 2007 and first half of 2008, but it is possible- match ups in tennis are more important than everyone here thinks.

He is not capable of beating Roger at the moment.

But considering Djoker's recent form, this is very unlikely scenario.

Horatio Caine
01-11-2009, 09:17 AM
Good post by flexeter, and one I agree with...no doubt he has the talent to be ABLE to defend his title, but, as already stated by others, he doesn't appear to be in good enough form to be of the greatest possible threat...and I think that will see him fall short.

SF is probably the more realistic finish for him, although it wouldn't surprise me if someone shocks him earlier on.

DartMarcus
01-11-2009, 09:20 AM
NO. He will have difficulties even in reaching semis.

scarecrows
01-11-2009, 09:23 AM
yes if he dumps Head and gets Wilson back :p

Jōris
01-11-2009, 09:30 AM
I think him and Murray are favourites.

habibko
01-11-2009, 10:02 AM
he has never defended any title in his career so far, I fail to see how he will start doing that with a Slam.

ORGASMATRON
01-11-2009, 10:19 AM
I cant believe he dumped Wilson for Head, but yeah i think he might struggle. Its never easy to defend a slam unless you are Roger of course.

Kolya
01-11-2009, 10:21 AM
Nein.

gjr
01-11-2009, 10:53 AM
i was going to start a thread asking is MTF under estimating Nole. I think most people on here are. Loads of posters don't have him making the 2nd week let alone the qf's or better.

Last year he cruised to the semi's, beat an ill Fed then finished the job against Tsonga.

He may have never defended a title but this would but a great way to start.

iriraz
01-11-2009, 10:55 AM
Djokovic has the problem that he doesn`t have many matches played so far in this season.He is 0-1 and an early loss in Sydney won`t help his game and his confidence.Going to Australian Open without any real match practice might be crucial and he could face lots of difficulties

Ad Wim
01-11-2009, 10:57 AM
Everyone talking about his poor form, but can you tell from just one match against a pretty difficult opponent? I don't think so. But people are opportunistic, unfortunately.
Last year he won it without playing any match prior to the AO and don't forget he won the TMC.

opeth84
01-11-2009, 11:02 AM
I think it's possible but i doubt it. Obviously the hype will be surrounding Murray again this year but i don't think he will even make the final. I still think Federer and Nadal will be the guys to beat. Yes Nadal has never one a slam on hardcourts but theres always a first time and he is more then capable of defeating any player on a hardcourt.

Would love to be suprised though.:)

ORGASMATRON
01-11-2009, 11:04 AM
Everyone talking about his poor form, but can you tell from just one match against a pretty difficult opponent? I don't think so. But people are opportunistic, unfortunately.
Last year he won it without playing any match prior to the AO and don't forget he won the TMC.

I agree, i think people are full of it :lol: The Djoker has an ace up his sleeve :)

ORGASMATRON
01-11-2009, 11:07 AM
Come to think of it Nadull's fitness must be a big plus for him down under, but he struggles against players with a big game on hard like Tsonga for instance.

Andi-M
01-11-2009, 04:42 PM
I think he will either lose 1R / 2R or make the final either way he won't be lifting any trophies.

the graduate
01-11-2009, 05:00 PM
even the dragon dijana wont save him this time

prima donna
01-11-2009, 05:28 PM
There hasn't been much talk recently about Djokovic, which could have something to do with a lack of impressive victories on his part or could simply be indicative of the propensity to disregard any player who isn't pulling off miraculous streaks with relative ease.

Despite having won Shanghai, there continues to be a cloud of doubt looming around him, and rightfully so given his dismal record against top players since last January. He's faltered against Nadal on nearly every surface since his victory against him at Indian Wells, losing a closely contested match in Hamburg and losing respectfully in Paris -- both of which were bearable defeats. But, alas, that was only the beginning of what was soon to become a pattern of disappointments and failures.

He lost for a third successive time at Queens to Nadal, and before the season would conclude, a heartwrenching defeat to the Spaniard in China would await him, thus putting to rest his ambitions of winning Olympic gold. In total, he would lose four matches to Nadal, while managing to win only two of their six matches, one of which was against a jaded Nadal who was just coming off a historical streak of victories at Queens, Wimbledon and Canada.

Djokovic also lost successively to Murray in Canada and Cincy, failing to win even a set. Other mentionable losses include his controversial retirement in Monte Carlo against Fed after finding himself a set and a break down, later citing a sore throat resulting from clay dust as what had troubled him so. Also, the Serbian was meekly dispatched in four easy sets in New York by Fed.

Another interesting fact is the players whom he's bested in his tournaments won: Wawrinka, Davydenko and Mardy Fish. Needless to say, he hasn't faced the most challenging of opposition.

Moreover, this drought of significant victories has been underscored by a sort of inertia or what has been interpreted as a general disinterest, thus provoking attempts to psychoanalyze his mental state on the part of many certified experts who just happen to be members of the MTF community. Once again showing how widely diverse our forum is.

Which leads us to the ultimate question of what is the likelihood of Djokovic defending his first career title at a Grand Slam ? More important, how will he fare after having lost his swagger ? Seldom does one have the opportunity to witness such a severe Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde case. On one hand, we have a player who appears to suffer from complacency and on the other hand, we have a player whose level of hubris is unrivaled.

I suppose the question really should be, which came first, the chicken or the egg ? That is to say, which came first, the buffoonish personality so in love with himself and practical jokes, or the complacent manchild wandering aimlessly in search of answers to his adversity ? In any case, it seems reasonable to suggest that one personality type could in fact be a direct consequence of the other.

At times it's difficult to accept the realization that all players are beatable. From such a realization can emerge problems far more troublesome than anything which could have arisen from having a bit of humility in the first place.

JolánGagó
01-11-2009, 05:33 PM
No.

Byrd
01-11-2009, 05:37 PM
Surprised you didn't see the other thread already posted about his chances defending the title..???

No is the answer to your question.

zeleni
01-11-2009, 05:48 PM
Yes.

Steelq
01-11-2009, 06:23 PM
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/V/x/1/obama_yes_we_can.jpg

meihaditalab
01-11-2009, 06:40 PM
theres no way he can win it again.

Vida
01-11-2009, 08:08 PM
sure he can. all he has to do is not lose, nothing to it really.

ORGASMATRON
01-11-2009, 08:11 PM
sure he can. all he has to do is not lose, nothing to it really.

:lol: i like that

sawan66278
01-11-2009, 08:25 PM
There hasn't been much talk recently about Djokovic, which could have something to do with a lack of impressive victories on his part or could simply be indicative of the propensity to disregard any player who isn't pulling off miraculous streaks with relative ease.

Despite having won Shanghai, there continues to be a cloud of doubt looming around him, and rightfully so given his dismal record against top players since last January. He's faltered against Nadal on nearly every surface since his victory against him at Indian Wells, losing a closely contested match in Hamburg and losing respectfully in Paris -- both of which were bearable defeats. But, alas, that was only the beginning of what was soon to become a pattern of disappointments and failures.

He lost for a third successive time at Queens to Nadal, and before the season would conclude, a heartwrenching defeat to the Spaniard in China would await him, thus putting to rest his ambitions of winning Olympic gold. In total, he would lose four matches to Nadal, while managing to win only two of their six matches, one of which was against a jaded Nadal who was just coming off a historical streak of victories at Queens, Wimbledon and Canada.

Djokovic also lost successively to Murray in Canada and Cincy, failing to win even a set. Other mentionable losses include his controversial retirement in Monte Carlo against Fed after finding himself a set and a break down, later citing a sore throat resulting from clay dust as what had troubled him so. Also, the Serbian was meekly dispatched in four easy sets in New York by Fed.

Another interesting fact is the players whom he's bested in his tournaments won: Wawrinka, Davydenko and Mardy Fish. Needless to say, he hasn't faced the most challenging of opposition.

Moreover, this drought of significant victories has been underscored by a sort of inertia or what has been interpreted as a general disinterest, thus provoking attempts to psychoanalyze his mental state on the part of many certified experts who just happen to be members of the MTF community. Once again showing how widely diverse our forum is.

Which leads us to the ultimate question of what is the likelihood of Djokovic defending his first career title at a Grand Slam ? More important, how will he fare after having lost his swagger ? Seldom does one have the opportunity to witness such a severe Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde case. On one hand, we have a player who appears to suffer from complacency and on the other hand, we have a player whose level of hubris is unrivaled.

I suppose the question really should be, which came first, the chicken or the egg ? That is to say, which came first, the buffoonish personality so in love with himself and practical jokes, or the complacent manchild wandering aimlessly in search of answers to his adversity ? In any case, it seems reasonable to suggest that one personality type could in fact be a direct consequence of the other.

At times it's difficult to accept the realization that all players are beatable. From such a realization can emerge problems far more troublesome than anything which could have arisen from having a bit of humility in the first place.

A well-reasoned analysis. Of course, he can win...but, again, it appears that the turning point in his career may very well have been his loss to Rafa in Hamburg. Prima is right: most of his victories came over inferior talent...and the men's game is VERY deep now.

Can he win the title? Of course, but so can Roddick. In my mind, its Andy Murray head and shoulders above everyone else. Than Federer...and then Rafa...I would put his chances in the Roddick, Simon, Tsonga group.

GlennMirnyi
01-11-2009, 08:39 PM
Of course. Give him a AK 47 and he'll protect it easily.

If you mean defend, then no.

the graduate
01-12-2009, 01:54 AM
If he loses early in Australia that coach is gone,I dont think his parents have the belly to keep this coach who is very good

Spes
01-12-2009, 02:20 AM
It's a matter of patience and focus. If he does either one well, he should cruise into the second week where he will need to step it up. I am unusually optimistic about this one.

Branimir
01-12-2009, 04:52 AM
I strongly believe in Djokovic. No players are currently on great form (well obviously), except maybe Murray.
I don't know. We'll see. I wont be surprised if he wins it again, I'll not be surprised if he loses to one of these: Murray, Federer, Nadal, Tsonga, Simon (wow list is long).
:D
If he losses to Gulbis or someone like Gulbis, I'll be little surprised.

crude oil
01-12-2009, 05:07 AM
yes if he dumps Head and gets Wilson back :p

making a raquet change is a bigger deal than people realize.

ljubicic changed from babolat to "head" and he has been in the dumps for a long time.

it will take some time for novak to adjust to his new raquet. The game relies so much on confidence and novak doesn't have it currently.

Arkulari
01-12-2009, 05:20 AM
Djoker feels Muzza's pressure on his back :eek:

nastoff
01-12-2009, 05:52 AM
I think he will be VERY motivated, whether he can defend it remains to be seen. I think losing to the final is a more tangible proposition.

kyleskywalker007
01-12-2009, 07:17 AM
Can he? YES
Will he? Most likely not

FairWeatherFan
01-12-2009, 07:30 AM
I don't think so. Murray, Nadal and Federer all have better form than Djokovic and so I would favour them to win it over him.

the graduate
01-12-2009, 09:54 AM
I see Roger winning again

Ivanatis
01-12-2009, 01:44 PM
I don't think so. Don't think either he will do as bad as some expect him. Guess he will end up in the semis with Roger or Murray in his half, otherwise maybe even runner-up.

MagicMilan
01-12-2009, 02:24 PM
I don't think so. Don't think either he will do as bad as some expect him. Guess he will end up in the semis with Roger or Murray in his half, otherwise maybe even runner-up.
He can't meet Murray before the finals. Thank God for that :o

Ivanatis
01-12-2009, 02:29 PM
oh is it 1,4 - 3,2 ?

don't know if I like it...
but a good thing for Nole, he should have a good chance for the final that way

ORGASMATRON
01-12-2009, 02:51 PM
I see Roger winning again

Im starting to like you :)

ORGASMATRON
01-12-2009, 02:57 PM
If he can get past the first week i think he can do well. Wether he can win is another thing. I see defending a slam more of a curse then a blessing actually. Unless your Roger or Nadal on clay of course. If he defends it will make him get a lot closer to Roger and Rafa of course, which could make things really interesting. There is so many possible scenarios for Oz, its gona be really interesting.

Lee
01-12-2009, 07:39 PM
oh is it 1,4 - 3,2 ?

don't know if I like it...
but a good thing for Nole, he should have a good chance for the final that way

It's either 1,4 - 2,3 or 1,3 - 2-4. Basically, 1st on top half and 2nd on bottom half, then 3rd will be either in 2nd or 3rd quarter. 4th will then be placed in the remaining quarter.

rocketassist
01-12-2009, 10:08 PM
Third round exit to Safin perhaps?

Igaarg
01-12-2009, 10:19 PM
Yes he can, but I don´t think he will

ballbasher101
01-12-2009, 10:39 PM
Happy new year to everyone, better late than never. The Djoker is not playing well and I don't think he will win the OZ open. I hope Federer wins it followed by Muzza.

NaDALiTa
01-12-2009, 11:54 PM
If he plays as he did last week,he won't protect his title,but GS matchs are differents and anything can happen (especially if he has to play Rafa or Roger).It will be interesting to see how he will deal with the pressure of defending a GS title.

Knightmace
01-13-2009, 01:48 AM
I seem him losing in round of 16, then that player will make semis

Ivanatis
01-13-2009, 03:56 AM
It's either 1,4 - 2,3 or 1,3 - 2-4. Basically, 1st on top half and 2nd on bottom half, then 3rd will be either in 2nd or 3rd quarter. 4th will then be placed in the remaining quarter.

yes of course he can't meet Murray before the final, me = idiot :lol:

Xristos
01-13-2009, 04:43 AM
Can he? No.
Will he? No.

helgagonzalez
01-13-2009, 06:49 AM
no, he can't.
i think he will go out in the early rounds of AO.

Mechlan
01-13-2009, 07:29 AM
Djokovic needs more matches/confidence to really get himself going. Not impossible, but unlikely that he'll defend. This surface does suit him however. Barring an early exit, a SF/F loss seems the most likely possibility.

Forehander
01-13-2009, 03:39 PM
He's famous for being a faker alright. Don't judge on him so quickly just because of a stupid first round loss in the mickey mouse Brisbane International. If he can play like he did last year then it will get VERY interesting. Speaking of it I don't think he's ever played Nadal a 5 setter on hard court? It will be very interesting to see them playing against each other. Tsonga's not a good match up against them two as well so he may cause some danger to the dominating top 4. This Australian Open will be quite good. Just bit of a shame that Davydenko isn't playing.

nsidhan
01-13-2009, 05:57 PM
The player that beats Nadal will make the finals (Gonzo/JWT).

jeremda01
01-27-2009, 01:16 AM
He's not too far away now he's only 3 matches to plow though. all of which will be tough in some aspect or another.

Sebby
01-27-2009, 03:19 AM
Even if he wins today against Roddick, I don't see him beating Del Potro/Federer and probably Nadal in the final. It would be a huge achievement if he manages to keep his title.

MyPrecious
01-27-2009, 12:04 PM
No ;)