SheepleBuster
01-10-2009, 03:54 PM
Wow. Domination
Murray Destroys Roddick 6-4 6-2SheepleBuster 01-10-2009, 03:54 PM Wow. Domination ciprianned 01-10-2009, 03:54 PM Roddick , go home , plz :D richie21 01-10-2009, 03:55 PM Too good. He'll win the AO without losing a set,mark my words. Xristos 01-10-2009, 03:55 PM Exected. Byrd 01-10-2009, 03:55 PM Dedicated to Tangy,Fumus,Deboogle, etc, etc... :haha: MsTree 01-10-2009, 03:55 PM Masterful :worship: HeretiC 01-10-2009, 03:55 PM I knew I would laugh my ass off with Roddick being passed at net with his approaches.I only though he will wise up a bit and reduce coming to net. Looks like he is too stubborn for that. Well, at least he was trying not to push that BH...much... Diprosalic 01-10-2009, 03:55 PM i have only seen the last game. looks like it was an easy win?! either way congrats andy m. well done SheepleBuster 01-10-2009, 03:56 PM Roddick tried. You've got to give him that. I mean if Federer tried as hard as Roddick, he may have won some of these close matches. Roddick has improved a bit but not to a point to challenge the top 4. FedererBulgaria 01-10-2009, 03:56 PM Destroys??? I don`t think so!Sometime the scorwline is not the most important!Roddick,great week!;) HarryMan 01-10-2009, 03:56 PM This Murray is a tactical magician. There is a reason he owns a player of Federer's caliber. He basically is a complete package and is more than just a real deal. Bilbo 01-10-2009, 03:56 PM expected one dedicated to tangerine_dream green25814 01-10-2009, 03:56 PM murrays stats: 31 winners, 10 ues. :cool: Was never really in doubt though, roddicks game is made for the scot. mikkemus23 01-10-2009, 03:57 PM NID. very bad netplay by roddick, got killed every time. His serve also lacked zip. Murray is lookiing like the favorite for AO... finishingmove 01-10-2009, 03:57 PM roddick :cuckoo: feuselino 01-10-2009, 03:57 PM Roddick tried. You've got to give him that. I mean if Federer tried as hard as Roddick, he may have won some of these close matches. Roddick has improved a bit but not to a point to challenge the top 4. yes, clearly Roger didn't try in Shanghai... :rolleyes: Lullaby 01-10-2009, 03:57 PM the others better hope his game gets lost between doha and melbourne lol Simply outstanding play, I felt for roddick as i didnt think he was that bad ~*BGT*~ 01-10-2009, 03:57 PM Horrible. Didn't watch it. Didn't want to. Couldn't handle another tough match after the Monfils one and Gasquet's matches against Tsonga and Steps. I'd have preferred a loss to Federer. I actually respect his game. :o Congrats to Murray fans... again. :o tennizen 01-10-2009, 03:58 PM Never in doubt. Labamba 01-10-2009, 03:58 PM Murray is so confident right now, no wonder he's the #1 favourite for AO 31 winners/10 ue's :yeah: SheepleBuster 01-10-2009, 03:59 PM Murray is not the only favorite for AO. The 3 out of 5 set matches are a whole other story. I want to see a rematch between Del Potro and Murray. the biscuit 01-10-2009, 03:59 PM Happy with the result, bored with the match. :zzz: anon57 01-10-2009, 04:00 PM Not bad play by Roddick but Murray was just playing so well. With this type of play and his confidence Murray is surely favourite for the AO. Fun match to watch imo:yeah: roberthenman 01-10-2009, 04:00 PM murray amazing :worship: Commander Data 01-10-2009, 04:00 PM Expected. Poor Duck... Too good. He'll win the AO without losing a set,mark my words. Fed will outperform him at AO. Payback! Mark my words. If not I will cancel my MTF-Account. SheepleBuster 01-10-2009, 04:00 PM yes, clearly Roger didn't try in Shanghai... :rolleyes: I am not talking about that match. But Fed sometimes has these matches that looks like he doesn't want to be there. Like the one against Blake in Olympics. adee-gee 01-10-2009, 04:00 PM Stunning. Absolutely stunning. Not much else to say. I just hope he can keep up this form in Oz. :worship: Jimnik 01-10-2009, 04:00 PM LOL. I bet this gave cyrusking a hard-on. Too good from MAndy. RAndy had some nice ideas but just couldn't execute on enough of them. Also he was too passive returning 2nd serve. But it's still a good week and he should be confident enough to make a run at the AO. Snowwy 01-10-2009, 04:00 PM Roddick , go home , plz :D And yet Roddick made Hanescu look like a girl. JolánGagó 01-10-2009, 04:01 PM Utter destruction, Rod looked like the sparring partner. Nuff said. Ivanatis 01-10-2009, 04:01 PM gee that was impressive, the winner/ue-ratio was just sick and he held Roddick to 3 aces richie21 01-10-2009, 04:02 PM Murray is not the only favorite for AO. The 3 out of 5 set matches are a whole other story. I want to see a rematch between Del Potro and Murray. You think Del Potro can beat this Murray? :haha: Venle 01-10-2009, 04:03 PM Congrats Murray. Arhaych 01-10-2009, 04:03 PM Destroys??? I don`t think so!Sometime the scorwline is not the most important!Roddick,great week!;) Some people are so bitter, it's quite extraordinary. Well done Andy M, it was one sided, but fantastic to watch, bodes well for the AO. Lullaby 01-10-2009, 04:05 PM That lob on the roddick charge was so funny lol Snowwy 01-10-2009, 04:05 PM Some people are so bitter, it's quite extraordinary. Well done Andy M, it was one sided, but fantastic to watch, bodes well for the AO. You strike me as someone who would never ever ever be biased either.. Byrd 01-10-2009, 04:05 PM Feel sorry for Roddick after the ceremony, the guy tried so hard and got passed left, right and centre whenever he went to the net, and got bludgeoned when on the baseline, lose lose situation :lol: Rumour 01-10-2009, 04:06 PM Murray put on a clinic, what an impressive performance :worship: Served exceptionally well, especially in the first set, and converted all three BPs he got on the first try. Only faced slight trouble holding while serving out the match but eliminated it handily with yet another of his handful of aces - in fact I believe he outdid Roddick there. Was masterful also from the baseline and at net, making a number of lovely passes and volleys. Final stats for the Scot included 31 Ws to 10 UEs, not much the American could do against that kind of quality even though he was fairly solid himself. scoobs 01-10-2009, 04:06 PM Murray firing on all cylinders today to pigeonize Roddick. Not a lot the duck could do - and he was trying hard. Good 10 days or so for Murray, that's for sure. SheepleBuster 01-10-2009, 04:06 PM LOL. I bet this gave cyrusking a hard-on. Too good from MAndy. RAndy had some nice ideas but just couldn't execute on enough of them. Also he was too passive returning 2nd serve. But it's still a good week and he should be confident enough to make a run at the AO. Why? I like Roddick. I thought he played well today. But he is just a second rate tennis player. that's all. SheepleBuster 01-10-2009, 04:07 PM You think Del Potro can beat this Murray? :haha: No. I said I want to see a rematch. Don't put words in my mouth. I thought their last match was great that's all. ChinoRios4Ever 01-10-2009, 04:09 PM expected by the best player on tour right now :yeah: feuselino 01-10-2009, 04:10 PM A Murray-Federer final in Melbourne would be great... t0x 01-10-2009, 04:11 PM Murray played well... was good to watch. The Duck was boring to watch. Actually, I take that back. That one point where he did a 360 degree spin-volley thing was mildly amusing. SheepleBuster 01-10-2009, 04:12 PM A Murray-Federer final in Melbourne would be great... I still think Nadal has the better chance of beating Murray at AO. Sure. Murray beat Nadal at the U.S. Open but Nadal was tried but he'll be ready for another grand slam win. I doubt Roger will make it past the semis but we shall see. Corey Feldman 01-10-2009, 04:12 PM this new Murray is Good , awesome, incredible didnt play that great for me today, too many shots into the net but behind his serve he was solid - apart from a couple of times but it was only Roddick Arhaych 01-10-2009, 04:14 PM You strike me as someone who would never ever ever be biased either.. No it's just the amount of hate some people have for tennis players, it's absolutely farcical. There's a difference between being biased and refusing to acknowledge a player, who was quite clearly, superb today. tennizen 01-10-2009, 04:15 PM this new Murray is Good , awesome, incredible didnt play that great for me today, too many shots into the net but behind his serve he was solid - apart from a couple of times but it was only Roddick Mikey:rolls: You are being so mean:lol: yellowboy906 01-10-2009, 04:17 PM Murray played well... was good to watch. The Duck was boring to watch. Actually, I take that back. That one point where he did a 360 degree spin-volley thing was mildly amusing. he still got owned that point though.:) mickymouse 01-10-2009, 04:18 PM I thought this resembled Roddick's previous encounters against Federer. Myrre 01-10-2009, 04:18 PM Roddick should see a doctor. He's clearly got an itch in the nether regions. ChinoRios4Ever 01-10-2009, 04:18 PM but it was only Roddick :haha: I know it's your moment, but try to be humble when you're in the top. :devil: tangerine_dream 01-10-2009, 04:21 PM Poor tactics from Roddick, he needed to play much more aggressive than that in order to beat Murray. Murray totally outplayed Andy and deserved to win, so congrats to him on defending his title. I will console myself with the fact that the crowd was very pro-Roddick. http://imgsrv2.tennisuniverse.com/mtf/images/icons/icon10.gif Still a very good week for Roddick, the win over Monfils was excellent, and he reached another final which nobody expected him to reach. Keep doing that all year, maybe winning a few titles here and there, and I'll be a happy fan. Congrats to Nina, especially. :hug: NinaNina19 01-10-2009, 04:30 PM Poor tactics from Roddick, he needed to play much more aggressive than that in order to beat Murray. Murray totally outplayed Andy and deserved to win, so congrats to him on defending his title. I will console myself with the fact that the crowd was very pro-Roddick. http://imgsrv2.tennisuniverse.com/mtf/images/icons/icon10.gif Still a very good week for Roddick, the win over Monfils was excellent, and he reached another final which nobody expected him to reach. Keep doing that all year, maybe winning a few titles here and there, and I'll be a happy fan. Congrats to Nina, especially. :hug:Thanks;). I should have bet more money but I thought Murray was injured. ~*BGT*~ 01-10-2009, 04:31 PM Thanks;). I should have bet more money but I thought Murray was injured. You know, you actually LOSE money when you bet on the favorite, even if he wins. :confused: ImmzB 01-10-2009, 04:38 PM Lets see what Murray does in Australia Johnny Groove 01-10-2009, 04:40 PM You know, you actually LOSE money when you bet on the favorite, even if he wins. :confused: No, you get your stake back as well. As for the match, Murray was just too good. Some of Roddick's approaches were :retard:, but thats to be expected. Roddick still tried, competed, and played pretty good, but Murray was sublime. I'd name Murray and Federer co-favorites for the Aussie Open as of right now since Nadal looked like shit against Monfils and Djokovic got slapped around in Brisbane. Not a bad week for Roddick either, very nice to see him doing well. :cool: Black Adam 01-10-2009, 04:42 PM Bold prediction: Murray will be the man MTFers hate this year. TJ20 01-10-2009, 04:43 PM Anyone who says andy murray is the favourite to win the australian open should not get ahead of themselves. Funnily enough.. i think the british press recognise this and put Federer as favourite... which he should be... followed by nadal and then murray. actually its more the foreigners who recognise murray as the favourite. GS are somewhat different. Have to be mentally geared to play at least 1hr 30mins... not at most, which would be tough against players like federer/nadal/djorkovic. «Ivan» 01-10-2009, 04:46 PM without a doubt the very best tennis player now 'n who knows how long.fed 'n rafa...'n nole:(>>>>>>:wavey: for some time dodoboy 01-10-2009, 04:47 PM Go Murray :drive: reggie1 01-10-2009, 04:48 PM :hug:Well done Andy. (Congrats Nina and Clydey) I thought he played a great match, really consistent and aggressive. Nice to see. JolánGagó 01-10-2009, 04:52 PM Bold prediction: Murray will be the man MTFers hate this year. Yeah, Djoker is soooo passé... danicarlos 01-10-2009, 04:54 PM Go andy Rumour 01-10-2009, 04:55 PM You know, you actually LOSE money when you bet on the favorite, even if he wins. :confused: Not sure where you get that impression - the odds may suck but betting on the favourite (even an overwhelming one) always returns the initial stake, at minimum, and usually a little profit on top. Pretty sure that's how vGazilionaires like bad_gambler and scarecrows consolidate their vast vCash reserves i.e. by betting ridiculous amounts on virtually assured outcomes :p Although I understand that, in real world gambling, this may not be a sound strategy long term... Spes 01-10-2009, 05:03 PM I don't think he's quite ready to win a slam yet but it's scary how fast he is improving. Dini 01-10-2009, 05:06 PM Murray has earned my respect. Well done and congratulations on a great past 2 weeks. Muzza- you have been the class of the field. NinaNina19 01-10-2009, 05:07 PM I don't think he's quite ready to win a slam yet but it's scary how fast he is improving. Who is he going to lose to :rolleyes:? SheepleBuster 01-10-2009, 05:10 PM Roddick has taken the art of being passed to a whole other level. I have never seen so many different ways to get passed as I have watching Roddick in the past couple of years. LinkMage 01-10-2009, 05:14 PM Who is he going to lose to :rolleyes:? No one will beat him. Murray will go undefeated this year and will win the Golden Slam. :worship: Fee 01-10-2009, 05:15 PM I don't think he's quite ready to win a slam yet but it's scary how fast he is improving. I disagree. The game is there, he worked off season to get the fitness there, judging by the past two weeks it seems he is getting his head there. I said back in September that I believe he is fully capable of winning all four of them at least once before his career is over, and I would not be at all surprised if he starts by getting one this year. NinaNina19 01-10-2009, 05:17 PM No one will beat him. Murray will go undefeated this year and win the Golden Slam. :worship: No, I mean at AO. He will probably semi-suck on clay. I don't think he's a lock to go his seding at clay court events but right now I don't think anyone can beat him. Maybe Fed in grand slam mode but that's about it. I don't know anything about Djokovic's form either. The only way he could lose imo is if he faces an inform Federer followed by an inform Djokovic. He'll be tired out, otherwise he is going to win. Lullaby 01-10-2009, 05:29 PM anything can happen to ruin a slam chances - like us open with Roger getting a day extra rest before the final due to the rain and poor intial scheduling. As above mention, his development is quite scary for the others. He is a late developer and I felt he would not be slam ready until 23/24. Now he just needs to correct that second serve as the only major correction. Arhaych 01-10-2009, 05:43 PM Surprised he's being lauded as the pre-tournament favourite, Fed and Nadal are still the men to beat when it comes to Grand Slams. Jōris 01-10-2009, 05:47 PM For someone who appears to have the intellectual curiosity of a dead mule, Murray plays a smart game of tennis. I hope he will perform well at Oz. tennis2tennis 01-10-2009, 05:51 PM Surprised he's being lauded as the pre-tournament favourite, Fed and Nadal are still the men to beat when it comes to Grand Slams. I'd have agreed with you before the US open, the kid made it to a Grand Slam final, ala Nole in 2007 Us open final appearance which gave him the confidence to go one better the following year in OZ. He's beaten Federer and Nadal in hardcourts already....it going to be more difficicult 'cause he's gonna have to keep the strength in the best of 5 sets match against Roger, which he's not done yet...but other than that there's no obvious hurdle for andy unless tsonga decides to be his bogeyman:devil: Loremaster 01-10-2009, 05:52 PM Same old Song and Dance, everybody is talking how a big favourite to win AO is Murray. But he will poropably lose to another Tsonga or whoever, his record at Slams is absymal, ok he made one final and QF, big deal and he was destroyed mentally at UsOpen. Also Djokovic in form (if he return to form) can beat him or make it very tight 5setter, Nadal has great record against him on every surface and Nadal was extraordinary in doubles final. Ok Nadal lost to himk at UsOpen but he was out of gas after whole season and Murray put one of the best serving performances I've seen from him. and Nadal on form destroyed Murray in Wimbledon, Murray isn't that great in those really important matches. There are number of players who can win with Tsonga, Gasquet, Nadal, Djokovic. Also there is one big factor considering the AO and that makes his chances lower - his fitness, he improved a lot, but to win AO you have to win 7 matches in row in very bad conditions, and he won't get many night sessions. And his style of play is very tiresome, his matches against baseline players are long , very long , look at him with Nadal, Del Potro, Simon etc As for the match Murray was great and deserved to win. As for Roddick he tried and showed some great play some backhands down the line, backhand was played very hard, but it was sure he was rusty, maybe in full form he would stretch it to 3 setts, but his serving let him down, and he made some bad mistakes from the baseline and he usually do'n do it. But his game is improving nicely, some net actions were very very good. So It was great start of the year for him, Stefanki knows what to improve now. Corey Feldman 01-10-2009, 05:52 PM Napoleon gave a lesson to the frat boy :D Bx1qBl5KBJM SheepleBuster 01-10-2009, 06:00 PM This is not the press conference but the post match interview for those of you interested: "I served well and I didn't allow Andy to break me," Murray said. "I also knew Andy can get confident on his serve so I tried to stay ahead of him in the match." Murray broke Roddick to go up 3-2 in the opening set, and used two more breaks in the second to take a 4-1 lead. Roddick's only break point came with Murray serving for the match, but the Scotsman saved it with an ace and clinched the title with a backhand winner down the line. "He's in top form right now," Roddick said. "I think he is capable of winning the big ones." In an exhibition in Abu Dhabi last week, Murray defeated Federer and top-ranked Rafael Nadal. Murray looks to win his first major at the Australian Open after losing to Federer in the U.S. Open final last year. At Wimbledon, Murray lost in the quarterfinals to Nadal. "I am not close to my best tennis," Murray said. "I need to do what I did at Wimbledon and the U.S Open last year. But if I play my best tennis, then I can beat the top players." Roddick wasn't dissatisfied with his week in Qatar. "I made him beat me," Roddick said. "I didn't give it away so easily. It was a successful week for me." Roddick did make Murray beat him, so my hats off to him. But Murray is simply in another class it seems. Lullaby 01-10-2009, 06:03 PM if that is murray playing nowhere near his best the others better hope he does not hit form in melbourne ... Bascule 01-10-2009, 06:08 PM Strange, on my Tv match was just finished:confused: Anyway, too easy for Muzza. Rod could show much more effort, it was finale at the end, should be more excited. The only break point he had a chance for was When Murray was serving for match. If Murray doesn't win at AO, I will be truly disappointed. dylan24 01-10-2009, 06:17 PM murray wins AO for sure dylan24 01-10-2009, 06:22 PM Anyone who says andy murray is the favourite to win the australian open should not get ahead of themselves. Funnily enough.. i think the british press recognise this and put Federer as favourite... which he should be... followed by nadal and then murray. actually its more the foreigners who recognise murray as the favourite. GS are somewhat different. Have to be mentally geared to play at least 1hr 30mins... not at most, which would be tough against players like federer/nadal/djorkovic. bookmakers have murray as clear favorite to win AO now GlennMirnyi 01-10-2009, 06:23 PM Injured, much? :lol: Nidhogg 01-10-2009, 06:40 PM Butthead seems to be the one to beat right now. Mechlan 01-10-2009, 07:13 PM Absolutely never in doubt. Fantastic stuff Andy, keep it up at the AO. Looking forward to Nadal/Murray Federer/Murray clash there, should be epic. Duncan 01-10-2009, 07:17 PM That was a great performance from Andy M. Dominated match from start to finish. Watching him serve so well made me very happy indeed! Don't like all the talk of him being favourite for Aus Open though. oh la la. 01-10-2009, 08:33 PM :yeah: Loremaster 01-10-2009, 09:15 PM if Nadal finds his form , he will win AO Open, at UsOpen he was spent in every way, so you can't judge much from that match, and I still remember how he destroyed Murray during Wimbledon. I don't agree that his fitness is there to win a Slam, he came up short in UsOpen, even now he has some back problems and he is very injury prone, his head also is questionable he has won some big titles , but he blowed UsOpen final mentally and almost every other Slasm match in his life. Byrd 01-10-2009, 09:22 PM Nadal winning AUS open, are you taking the piss??? partygirl 01-10-2009, 09:22 PM Roddick should see a doctor. He's clearly got an itch in the nether regions.:spit::wazzup: Loremaster 01-10-2009, 09:46 PM Nadal winning AUS open, are you taking the piss??? it is only my pick, he seems to be in better form that in last year at the start of the season, he surely has great chance playing against - Roger, Murray, Djoko he has beaten all of them on hardcourt and dominated them in 2008 he has huge positive h-t-h against all other Top4 players even on hardcourts Byrd 01-10-2009, 09:52 PM it is only my pick, he seems to be in better form that in last year at the start of the season, he surely has great chance playing against - Roger, Murray, Djoko he has beaten all of them on hardcourt and dominated them in 2008 he has huge positive h-t-h against all other Top4 players even on hardcourts He might get Roger possibly, but the other 2 will wreck him on the 'new' AO surface, as the ball doesn't bounce as much as it used do when the surface was green. This is discounting the fact he won't run into someone whose having a good day e.g. every hardcourt slam he's played since US open 2005, and monfils recently in doha. *Viva Chile* 01-10-2009, 11:10 PM too strong :p chewy 01-10-2009, 11:49 PM Murray is piling up with wins over top players atm! Andi-M 01-11-2009, 12:09 AM This guy kicks ass. His big hurdle is Oz he really needs to get his 1st GS there, and if he does i predict massive things for Murray the most complete player on tour atm without a doubt. (Fed's BH is too weak) I can't wait for AO BUT!! I'm not predicting he has it in the bag at all ,because there are players that could beat him im not necesserily worried about the fed, nadals and nole of this world more like the tsonga's, gasquet's, simon's, gulbis's, del potro's, and nalbandian's of this world that on a krazy good day could beat Muz. nkp2 01-11-2009, 12:54 AM Well done Andy. Great result. As for those saying Nadal will beat Murray at Oz I think that's the least like result out of Murray playing the top 3. After all, it was 2007 when Murray took Nadal to 5 sets in Oz and only narrowly lost out. He wasn't half the player back then by no means. Murray is my favourite for the title, but I'm a realist too, and know that Fed and Djoko will certainly step up. Nathaliia 01-11-2009, 12:55 AM Now Murray has some time to heal the injury he got in the match against Federer. nkp2 01-11-2009, 12:56 AM Now Murray has some time to heal the injury he got in the match against Federer. He noticed his back "injury" the week before in Abu Dhabi. It wasn't that big a deal. The press overstated it. he showed the suction marks on his back in the press conference after the final and said that he just wanted to relieve some pressure from it but was always going to play today. Nathaliia 01-11-2009, 01:03 AM He noticed his back "injury" the week before in Abu Dhabi. It wasn't that big a deal. The press overstated it. he showed the suction marks on his back in the press conference after the final and said that he just wanted to relieve some pressure from it but was always going to play today. This is what I was trying to point out in case Clydey read it :p. Well, can't blame the journalists, they get paid for the drama, and sadly it also means they're often paid for the unnecessary hot air. Nice job by your boy, he played great today, and is lucky Tsonga will be seeded this year at the AO. Corey Feldman 01-11-2009, 01:07 AM This is what I was trying to point out in case Clydey read it :p. Well, can't blame the journalists, they get paid for the drama, and sadly it also means they're often paid for the unnecessary hot air. Nice job by your boy, he played great today, and is lucky Tsonga will be seeded this year at the AO.dont make me laugh this new Murray would kick Tsonga's arse into next century Nathaliia 01-11-2009, 01:20 AM Actually the funniest was the part when soon after AO he lost in some MM random event and he said he didn't care because he focused on Slams :D. ~*BGT*~ 01-11-2009, 01:29 AM What's with all these Scottish posters appearing out of nowhere? Reminds me of the Serb influx a year ago. :o Not sure where you get that impression - the odds may suck but betting on the favourite (even an overwhelming one) always returns the initial stake, at minimum, and usually a little profit on top. Pretty sure that's how vGazilionaires like bad_gambler and scarecrows consolidate their vast vCash reserves i.e. by betting ridiculous amounts on virtually assured outcomes :p Although I understand that, in real world gambling, this may not be a sound strategy long term... I don't know exactly how it works, but here, if I bet like $1000 v-cash on a guy who is at 0.75 and he wins, I'm gonna win $750. If the guy was at 1.30, I'm gonna win $1,300. At least, that's how it's worked for me in the past. :confused: That's why I only bet on the underdog when I think he's gonna win, like Gasquet over Tsonga and Roddick over Monfils this week for instance. cmurray 01-11-2009, 01:39 AM Actually the funniest was the part when soon after AO he lost in some MM random event and he said he didn't care because he focused on Slams :D. Sounds like Federer. :o LinkMage 01-11-2009, 01:48 AM I don't know exactly how it works, but here, if I bet like $1000 v-cash on a guy who is at 0.75 and he wins, I'm gonna win $750. If the guy was at 1.30, I'm gonna win $1,300. At least, that's how it's worked for me in the past. :confused: That's why I only bet on the underdog when I think he's gonna win, like Gasquet over Tsonga and Roddick over Monfils this week for instance. Yes, you win 750 with odds of 0.75 but you also get your 1000 back. With 1.30 you win 1300 but also get the 1000 you bet back. Hope this helps. :) Corey Feldman 01-11-2009, 01:48 AM What's with all these Scottish posters appearing out of nowhere? Reminds me of the Serb influx a year ago. :o embrace the haggis BGT, embrace the haggis :p cmurray 01-11-2009, 01:49 AM embrace the haggis BGT, embrace the haggis :p Nice signature, Mikey. :p Corey Feldman 01-11-2009, 01:55 AM MY and her fantasies about Andy, Cheryl :o nkp2 01-11-2009, 01:56 AM The betting "odds" on MTF are wrong basically which is why some people probably think you lose money. The 4/1 odds are right but this is 5.00 in decimal odds (no stake back). So the 1/2F odds would be 1.5 in a betting shop but on MTF they are 0.5 + your stake back. And as for the scottish posters think, well I've been on here for a wee while I would think, although I don't post much in GD. maybe a lot of brits are just changing their flags ;) cmurray 01-11-2009, 01:56 AM :haha: Mikey Andy :inlove: Corey Feldman 01-11-2009, 02:00 AM :wavey: nkp2 i dont like all this talk of Murray being the fave for AO.. dont think it will affect him a anyway :haha: Mikey Andy :inlove:i kept it :o remembered she doesnt read GM anyway :devil: ~*BGT*~ 01-11-2009, 02:05 AM embrace the haggis BGT, embrace the haggis :p There's so many of them, I might choke on them. ;) :p The betting "odds" on MTF are wrong basically which is why some people probably think you lose money. The 4/1 odds are right but this is 5.00 in decimal odds (no stake back). So the 1/2F odds would be 1.5 in a betting shop but on MTF they are 0.5 + your stake back. Math is not my forte. :o And as for the scottish posters think, well I've been on here for a wee while I would think, although I don't post much in GD. maybe a lot of brits are just changing their flags ;) It's like a Scottish vacuum of charm in here. :rolleyes: And before another of you complains of nationalism, that's a direct quote from James McAvoy to Craig Ferguson. :p Now McAvoy is a Scot I will gladly embrace :yeah: Clydey 01-11-2009, 02:14 AM This is what I was trying to point out in case Clydey read it :p. Well, can't blame the journalists, they get paid for the drama, and sadly it also means they're often paid for the unnecessary hot air. Nice job by your boy, he played great today, and is lucky Tsonga will be seeded this year at the AO. Clydey read quotes that the press attributed to Murray. That's why Clydey thought that Murray might not play. Turns out he said no such thing. nkp2 01-11-2009, 02:15 AM Clydey read quotes that the press attributed to Murray. That's why Clydey thought that Murray might not play. Turns out he said no such thing. Clydey likes speaking in the third person :worship::wavey: nkp2 01-11-2009, 02:16 AM It's like a Scottish vacuum of charm in here. :rolleyes: And before another of you complains of nationalism, that's a direct quote from James McAvoy to Craig Ferguson. :p Now McAvoy is a Scot I will gladly embrace :yeah: I don't mind what you say mate. AFter all, I'm still hating America for the next 9 days ;) Clydey 01-11-2009, 02:17 AM Well done Andy. Great result. As for those saying Nadal will beat Murray at Oz I think that's the least like result out of Murray playing the top 3. After all, it was 2007 when Murray took Nadal to 5 sets in Oz and only narrowly lost out. He wasn't half the player back then by no means. Murray is my favourite for the title, but I'm a realist too, and know that Fed and Djoko will certainly step up. Look who's decided to make an appearance. Fucking glory hunter. :haha: ~*BGT*~ 01-11-2009, 02:18 AM I don't mind what you say mate. AFter all, I'm still hating America for the next 9 days ;) Why? :confused: That reminds me. Gotta change my flag Clydey 01-11-2009, 02:20 AM Why? :confused: That reminds me. Gotta change my flag Change to the Scottish flag. To paraphrase Mikey, embrace the bagpipes. nkp2 01-11-2009, 02:23 AM Look who's decided to make an appearance. Fucking glory hunter. :haha: Oi! Shut it! :mad: If you can invade MW I can invade MTF :boxing: :P nkp2 01-11-2009, 02:23 AM Why? :confused: That reminds me. Gotta change my flag Think about it. ~*BGT*~ 01-11-2009, 02:26 AM Think about it. I don't hate Scots. :confused: I'm just wondering why you all are appearing all of a sudden. ;) And one of you, I LOVE. :inlove: sawan66278 01-11-2009, 02:38 AM The incredible talent that is Andy Murray is beginning to surface...and, as a Rafa fan, I'm ecstatic that he had the amazing year he had in 2008...because with Andy around (if healthy), he's going to be brutal on every surface except clay. He's the favorite going into the AO...and has a legit shot to end the year #1. And you know Novak is the one feeling the most pressure...because he may NEVER become #1 with Andy and Rafa there... roberthenman 01-11-2009, 02:55 AM :worship: andy :worship: fast_clay 01-11-2009, 04:03 AM murray is bad for the sport... he is too good... i think the bigger problem lay in the fact that the sport of tennis was brought to scotland in the first place... i mean... has anyone ever been to scotland...? no c*** knows what a fork and knife is up there... f***ing cannibals... to shave one of these barbarians down and teach it to speak and play tennis is one of the more f***ed episodes in the history of humankind... totally unfair... meihaditalab 01-11-2009, 05:09 AM Have to admit. good game Clydey 01-11-2009, 05:54 AM murray is bad for the sport... he is too good... i think the bigger problem lay in the fact that the sport of tennis was brought to scotland in the first place... i mean... has anyone ever been to scotland...? no c*** knows what a fork and knife is up there... f***ing cannibals... to shave one of these barbarians down and teach it to speak and play tennis is one of the more f***ed episodes in the history of humankind... totally unfair... :haha: Wish I could rep you. Knightmace 01-11-2009, 06:26 AM Murray is not the only favorite for AO. The 3 out of 5 set matches are a whole other story. I want to see a rematch between Del Potro and Murray. Their US Open was a battle! Knightmace 01-11-2009, 06:43 AM Roddick didn't play that bad. Forehander 01-11-2009, 08:04 AM Incredible! Beat 01-11-2009, 08:13 AM oh god, he's going to be no. 1 :o Oj-Ala 01-11-2009, 10:34 AM Watching Andy Murray winning a grand slam this year would be nice :) Shame I couldnt watch the battle of the Andys :( Raquel 01-11-2009, 01:23 PM Well done Andy, awesome start to the year :D reggie1 01-11-2009, 01:35 PM murray is bad for the sport... he is too good... i think the bigger problem lay in the fact that the sport of tennis was brought to scotland in the first place... i mean... has anyone ever been to scotland...? no c*** knows what a fork and knife is up there... f***ing cannibals... to shave one of these barbarians down and teach it to speak and play tennis is one of the more f***ed episodes in the history of humankind... totally unfair... How can anyone accuse you of racism? very injust imo, you're disrespectful to everybody. ;) michellej 01-11-2009, 01:46 PM Andy Murray swatted Andy Roddick away as though he was a pesky fly. telegraph.co.uk Byrd 01-11-2009, 01:48 PM Andy Murray swatted Andy Roddick away as though he was a pesky fly. telegraph.co.uk Andy murray picked up Andy Roddick and put him in a bin like a piece of shit, would've of been more appropriate considering how the match went. «Ivan» 01-11-2009, 03:56 PM The incredible talent that is Andy Murray is beginning to surface...and, as a Rafa fan, I'm ecstatic that he had the amazing year he had in 2008...because with Andy around (if healthy), he's going to be brutal on every surface except clay. He's the favorite going into the AO...and has a legit shot to end the year #1. And you know Novak is the one feeling the most pressure...because he may NEVER become #1 with Andy and Rafa there... shiiisssss uneducated me-myself-'n-i devil. imac should throw you away. «Ivan» 01-11-2009, 04:02 PM if Nadal finds his form , he will win AO Open :haha: even delusional imac wouldn't dare to say such a stupidity.gosh. danton 01-11-2009, 04:05 PM I don't understand why Roddick kept on coming to the next. Everytime Murray passed him to the oohs and aahs of the crowd. Roddick needs on court coaching. Nidhogg 01-11-2009, 06:20 PM I don't understand why Roddick kept on coming to the next. Everytime Murray passed him to the oohs and aahs of the crowd. Roddick needs on court coaching. So you believe he would have won more points by trying to outhit/outlast Murray from the baseline? ORGASMATRON 01-11-2009, 06:27 PM So you believe he would have won more points by trying to outhit/outlast Murray from the baseline? No he wouldntve. Is the same problem with Roddick as always, he is just very limited when it comes to the talent department and doent have many options if his big game isnt working. Just look at where he grips his raquet for crying out loud! Nidhogg 01-11-2009, 06:56 PM No he wouldntve. Is the same problem with Roddick as always, he is just very limited when it comes to the talent department and doent have many options if his big game isnt working. Just look at where he grips his raquet for crying out loud! Easy there, tiger. You've been in hypermode all day with your rants concerning what not. Unsettled about something? sawan66278 01-11-2009, 08:01 PM shiiisssss uneducated me-myself-'n-i devil. imac should throw you away. Are you speaking in tongues? Corey Feldman 01-11-2009, 08:16 PM oh god, he's going to be no. 1 :osuffer! danton 01-11-2009, 08:46 PM So you believe he would have won more points by trying to outhit/outlast Murray from the baseline? We'll never know will we? The point is if you're losing with one strategy go to another, it might not win you the match but at least you might. There was no way he was going to win like that. Besides there's more to tennis strategy than baseline or Coming to the net, mixing it up would have been a start. Nidhogg 01-11-2009, 09:30 PM there's more to tennis strategy than baseline or Coming to the net, mixing it up would have been a start. Which as I recall was pretty much what he did. He didn't go forward instantly in every rally, but I think he felt he just couldn't get through Murray's defense from the backcourt enough times for it to pay off in this match. He would have lost the vast majority of those points and tired himself out, and since his forehand isn't what it was in 03-04 he has to venture forward shortening the points that way. To his credit he won several points up there with smashes and volleys. I just don't think that he with his current weapons could have won the match against Murray in this form, no matter what tactical approach he had employed. Deivid23 01-11-2009, 10:46 PM Like taking candy from a child fast_clay 01-12-2009, 05:12 AM Andy murray picked up Andy Roddick and put him in a bin like a piece of shit, would've of been more appropriate considering how the match went. affirmative | |