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Murray def. Stakhovsky 6-4 6-2

Lopez
01-08-2009, 06:31 PM
Nice first set, Stakhovsky imploded in the second. Murray lost his serve when serving for the match at 5-0, seemed like he had lost interest a little bit and was thinking about the next match already.

I've never seen Stakhovsky play before this, obviously I've heard of him though. I really liked his game, he was talented from the back of the court, had firepower in both baseline shots, nice touch, nice volleys and most importantly smart game. Consistency was/is his biggest problem, along with the second serve IMO.

Byrd
01-08-2009, 06:33 PM
Saw a bit of friction on court, do these guys have some kind of history?

FedererBulgaria
01-08-2009, 06:33 PM
Sergiy:worship:Great 1st set!Some great points,great backhand,but his serve....:confused:....his 2nd serve:o

Nidhogg
01-08-2009, 06:35 PM
Nice first set, Stakhovsky imploded in the second. Murray lost his serve when serving for the match at 5-0, seemed like he had lost interest a little bit and was thinking about the next match already.

I've never seen Stakhovsky play before this, obviously I've heard of him though. I really liked his game, he was talented from the back of the court, had firepower in both baseline shots, nice touch, nice volleys and most importantly smart game. Consistency was/is his biggest problem, along with the second serve IMO.

Good summary. Stakhovsky was very impressive in patches. Murray seemed to appreciate the effort and raised his game compared to the earlier rounds.

Andi-M
01-08-2009, 06:35 PM
Coasting along in 2nd gear all match. Nice one Muz!

Guy played well in 1st set but the class of Muz shone through, as it will 2moro. :D

Corey Feldman
01-08-2009, 06:39 PM
:hearts: at Andy's Sampras slam dunk to go 4-0 in second set

andy warned for coaching in 1st set seemed to wake him up

cheers Umpy

scoobs
01-08-2009, 06:40 PM
Saw a bit of friction on court, do these guys have some kind of history?
Yeah Murray beat him for the US Open Juniors title in 04 and there was a bit of a bad tempered DC match in Odessa a couple of years ago that Murray also won.

Murray did enough, a bit lazy at the end there, I wish he'd put the hammer down at 5-0, not go to sleep sometimes :retard:

But still...job done. Federer next. Should be good. Will need to play better.

NinaNina19
01-08-2009, 06:53 PM
Andy :banana: !!!

Nathaliia
01-08-2009, 07:00 PM
Underperformaced by Stakhovsky :(:(:( In Zagreb the big revenge will cum.

Myrre
01-08-2009, 07:53 PM
Murray was cheering for every fault Stakhovsky made towards the end of the 1st set. Even his double fault. That's really low...

meihaditalab
01-08-2009, 08:44 PM
this is an easy win. WAY to easy

Raquel
01-08-2009, 08:53 PM
Well done Andy :D

gusman890
01-08-2009, 11:31 PM
Mighty Murray keeps rolling on.

Clydey
01-09-2009, 12:15 AM
Murray was cheering for every fault Stakhovsky made towards the end of the 1st set. Even his double fault. That's really low...

I don't get why that bothers people. A point is a point. A winner is no more valuable than a double fault.

Stensland
01-09-2009, 12:19 AM
that comment was way below your regular level, clydey. of course you know that cheering for an opponents' df is nothing but unsportsmanlike, be it for the crowds or - especially - for a player.

i don't know if murray's actually guilty here as i haven't seen it but if he is, shame on him. he's a top player now, so he should act that way and throw the kiddie stuff over board.

Clydey
01-09-2009, 12:50 AM
that comment was way below your regular level, clydey. of course you know that cheering for an opponents' df is nothing but unsportsmanlike, be it for the crowds or - especially - for a player.

i don't know if murray's actually guilty here as i haven't seen it but if he is, shame on him. he's a top player now, so he should act that way and throw the kiddie stuff over board.

Seriously, it's not something that bothers me, no matter who does it. If there's a crucial point in the match and your opponent makes a double fault, I can understand why a player would let out a "come on". It's a big point to win, regardless of whether it's won as a result of a winner or a double fault.

That's not to suggest that I would encourage a player to do it, but I certainly understand the compulsion to celebrate an error. It's a nice way to release a bit of tension, particularly as the player was expecting to work for the point. I can't recall if Murray did it today, so I'll have to take the poster's word for it.

Stensland
01-09-2009, 12:55 AM
obviously a df is some sort of "relief" to some extent when you're on the other side of the net. but i guess, as you pointed out, the whole not-having-worked-for-it-thing makes the emotional celebration so impertinent if you will. it's schadenfreude basically.

i think this is one of those situations where a player just needs to let it go.

Clydey
01-09-2009, 01:03 AM
obviously a df is some sort of "relief" to some extent when you're on the other side of the net. but i guess, as you pointed out, the whole not-having-worked-for-it-thing makes the emotional celebration so impertinent if you will. it's schadenfreude basically.

i think this is one of those situations where a player just needs to let it go.

That's how I feel about it, too.

There's a big point coming up, and you're preparing yourself for it. Suddenly, your opponent throws in a double. I suppose some players just let the tension out when that happens, while others celebrate internally.

Stensland
01-09-2009, 01:28 AM
is anybody around who's watched the celebration? it's not that often that players actually do something like that. i know andy can be very cocky out there but i felt like he's toned it down a bit over the last couple of months as he matured as a pro.

i'd have to see it before i really believe it.

Clydey
01-09-2009, 01:31 AM
is anybody around who's watched the celebration? it's not that often that players actually do something like that. i know andy can be very cocky out there but i felt like he's toned it down a bit over the last couple of months as he matured as a pro.

i'd have to see it before i really believe it.

I remember now actually. It was after the umpire warned him for being coached and Murray confronted the umpire about it. At that point, Andy became vocal after every point. He was pretty fired up.

Henry Chinaski
01-09-2009, 01:32 AM
didn't see today's match but in general

though I don't like it I can understand cheering for an unforced error because in the heat of the moment it's possible to feel that you've forced it.

cheering a double fault is different though. I can't see any reason for it other than to piss your opponent off.

xargon
01-09-2009, 02:32 AM
cheering a double fault is different though. I can't see any reason for it other than to piss your opponent off.


Very low class, in fact the more I am seeing of Murray, the less I like.

NinaNina19
01-09-2009, 02:46 AM
The only times cheering for a df is acceptable are on break point, game point, set point and match point or in a really intense and competitive match. In all of these cases only a small fist pump should do. I didn't watch the match, was it pronounced or are people making a big deal out of nothing?

Clydey
01-09-2009, 02:49 AM
The only times cheering for a df is acceptable are on break point, game point, set point and match point or in a really intense and competitive match. In all of these cases only a small fist pump should do. I didn't watch the match, was it pronounced or are people making a big deal out of nothing?

Big deal out of nothing. Murray got fired up after the umpire warned him for being coached. He was annoyed and became pretty vocal for a while. It was a little bit like the Del Potro match last year in Rome.

Turquoise
01-09-2009, 03:54 AM
All credit to Stakhovsky who came out all cylinders firing, but unfortunately couldn't sustain the intensity throughout the match. Hit some fantastic winners, went toe to toe with Murray especially off the backhand and his drop shots were simply sublime. Initially succeeded in getting under Murray's skin with some 'come-ons'; Murray guilty of being slightly complacent after earning the first break of serve in first set and promptly conceding it. Murray looked increasingly rattled until the umpire gave him a warning for illegal coaching - that seemed to fire him up. He stepped up a gear, pumping himself up with every point won (whether he won the point or his opponent lost it) with loud come-ons - pure psychological warfare which worked because he earned crucial 2nd break of serve in first set. From that point on, it was Murray all the way; Stakhovsky simply faded away. Lapse of concentration at 5-0 when Murray was serving out the match, but eventually closed it at 6-2.

Dougie
01-09-2009, 06:01 AM
The only times cheering for a df is acceptable are on break point, game point, set point and match point or in a really intense and competitive match. In all of these cases only a small fist pump should do. I didn't watch the match, was it pronounced or are people making a big deal out of nothing?

Totally agree. One of the first things my coach told me when I was a junior, was "donīt cheer for your opponents df`s, itīs just not cool to do that". Like you said, if the point is crucial, itīs okay to pump your fist a bit, but thatīs about it.
Murray knows all this damn well, but heīs just being a jerk.

CooCooCachoo
01-09-2009, 09:29 AM
All credit to Stakhovsky who came out all cylinders firing, but unfortunately couldn't sustain the intensity throughout the match. Hit some fantastic winners, went toe to toe with Murray especially off the backhand and his drop shots were simply sublime. Initially succeeded in getting under Murray's skin with some 'come-ons'; Murray guilty of being slightly complacent after earning the first break of serve in first set and promptly conceding it. Murray looked increasingly rattled until the umpire gave him a warning for illegal coaching - that seemed to fire him up. He stepped up a gear, pumping himself up with every point won (whether he won the point or his opponent lost it) with loud come-ons - pure psychological warfare which worked because he earned crucial 2nd break of serve in first set. From that point on, it was Murray all the way; Stakhovsky simply faded away. Lapse of concentration at 5-0 when Murray was serving out the match, but eventually closed it at 6-2.

That's pretty much Sergiy's problem in every match he plays; he has trouble maintaining form. Obviously every player has lapses in his consistency, but I find that Stakhovsky goes through leaps and bounds at a much greater frequency and it really hampers him.

Still, am glad he reached the QF here; good start of the year. He's a very exciting player to watch, and a nice guy to boot.

Corey Feldman
01-09-2009, 09:41 AM
i love Andy's cheering opp's misses, TBH

if it annoys them - job done :yeah: