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NYCtennisfan
01-03-2009, 10:15 PM
Federer has Murray on his side of the draw of course. :D

Game.Set.Match..
01-03-2009, 10:38 PM
murray GOING DOWN. :D

rofe
01-04-2009, 02:27 AM
:D:D

Murray on Fed's side of the draw was NID.

Sunset of Age
01-04-2009, 02:44 AM
Federer has Murray on his side of the draw of course. :D

I know you're joking. With Roger and Rafa being the no. 1 and 2 seeds, they both had 50% chance of getting Muzza in their side of the draw ;). I rather see Roger getting Muzza here than in the AO. :p (no, no lecturing please, I know - 50% chance, again... :angel:)

It might just be me, but unless Roger is fully healthy - no back problems and the like - I have *no doubts AT ALL* that he will beat Muzza if they both manage to reach the semis. People read way too much in that silly Abu Dhabi exho - blimey, Roger was playing with his Rolex on!!! = absolutely in non-serious, exho-mode. And still it took Muzza a TB in the third set to win that match... :haha:

Go get 'em, Rogelio! :rocker2:

PS: thanks Alex for starting the thread. Happy 2009 to you! :wavey:

NYCtennisfan
01-04-2009, 03:26 AM
I know you're joking. With Roger and Rafa being the no. 1 and 2 seeds, they both had 50% chance of getting Muzza in their side of the draw ;). I rather see Roger getting Muzza here than in the AO. :p (no, no lecturing please, I know - 50% chance, again... :angel:)

It might just be me, but unless Roger is fully healthy - no back problems and the like - I have *no doubts AT ALL* that he will beat Muzza if they both manage to reach the semis. People read way too much in that silly Abu Dhabi exho - blimey, Roger was playing with his Rolex on!!! = absolutely in non-serious, exho-mode. And still it took Muzza a TB in the third set to win that match... :haha:

Go get 'em, Rogelio! :rocker2:

PS: thanks Alex for starting the thread. Happy 2009 to you! :wavey:

:) Happy 2009 to you as well Karin. Murray will be a difficult player from here on out for Federer because his return of serve lets him get into a lot more points than Fed is accustomed to on his own serve. On top of this, Murray has a really good serve and he's served a good % against Federer.

Federer's BH has held up pretty well against Andy in their matches, but he's lacked the explosiveness on his FH except in New York. A few years back, any weak shot hit to Fed's FH would be punished and an opponent's chance of winning the point after hitting a weak shot to Fed's FH was very, very low. Murray hits plenty of weak FH's to FEd's FH, but Fed doesn't crush them like he did 2-3 years ago. If he is connecting on that FH, I think he can pull off a good, tough 4 set win. If it's not, it's going to be very tough to win unless Murray is having one of his 40% serving days.

Sunset of Age
01-04-2009, 03:38 AM
:) Happy 2009 to you as well Karin. Murray will be a difficult player from here on out for Federer because his return of serve lets him get into a lot more points than Fed is accustomed to on his own serve. On top of this, Murray has a really good serve and he's served a good % against Federer.

Federer's BH has held up pretty well against Andy in their matches, but he's lacked the explosiveness on his FH except in New York. A few years back, any weak shot hit to Fed's FH would be punished and an opponent's chance of winning the point after hitting a weak shot to Fed's FH was very, very low. Murray hits plenty of weak FH's to FEd's FH, but Fed doesn't crush them like he did 2-3 years ago. If he is connecting on that FH, I think he can pull off a good, tough 4 set win. If it's not, it's going to be very tough to win unless Murray is having one of his 40% serving days.

:) Thanks Alex! :wavey:

I don't dispute anything you say, I happen to think that Andy Murray is indeed a great player (I've been saying that since I joined MTF, check it out if you don't believe me ;)), and he might well be a future ATP #1. Even more, I LIKE the lad - call it a Guilty Pleasure. :angel:

And yes, Roger isn't the Roger of, say, two, three years ago anymore. Acknowleding that is just a matter of being *realistic*.

But still - Roger *trashed* Murray at the USO, the last HC GS played. I'm not taking Roger's earlier losses to Muzza into account as I happen to believe he was still suffering from the (after-)effects of his mono-infection at that time (not saying that I dispute the value of Murray's victories, not at all).
Murray's last victory in Shanghai? A very tight, hard-fought three setter, while Roger was obviously very troubled by a severe back injury... ;)

I might well be very wrong, but I reckon that we're going to see a VERY DIFFERENT Roger Federer in Doha - and if not there, at least at the AO - provided that nasty back injury doesn't pop up again, of course. :help:
However much I acknowledge Murray's (and Nadal's, and Djoko's) tennis virtues, I just don't feel willing to play the obvious popular 'Pessimistic About Roger's Chances'-game as of yet. ;)

Venle
01-04-2009, 08:35 AM
Yay, looking forward to Murray - Federer :scared:

Bonne chance Rogie!!

nobama
01-04-2009, 11:02 AM
Love seeing Roger looking rested and tanned. So much better than the pale look he sported most of last year.

http://www.qataropen.org/images/stories/roger_arrival.jpg

biological
01-04-2009, 12:23 PM
Yay Qatar :woohoo: I foresee a good win for Roger here (I'm hoping without dropping a set, because we all know how cool that is).

I don't think Murray will be a problem. A healthy, fit Rogelio on hard courts? Indestructible :yeah:

SUKTUEN
01-04-2009, 12:46 PM
ALLEZ ROGER!!:bounce::bounce::bounce:

Eden
01-04-2009, 10:19 PM
I guess we will soon have an own thread discussing the Federer-Murray rivalry, just as there have been some for Roger and Nadal in here ;)

It's a good thing on the one hand that Roger gets to play against the players who he has difficulties against as much as possible in order to analyze them, on the other hand it doesn't really help the selfconfidence to lose very often against a player.

I'm sure Roger is contented that he won the most important match against Murray last season and isn't afraid to play against him, no matter if it is in a best of 3 or best of 5 match.

Though we are heading into an official tournament now we shouldn't forget that it is still early in the season. It will be interesting to see how Roger plays here, if he still tries to test shots.

juninhOH
01-04-2009, 10:38 PM
hahaha when I saw "ExxonMobil" I thought "WTF ANOTHER EXHO?!"

:D when does Roger play?

Sunset of Age
01-04-2009, 10:40 PM
hahaha when I saw "ExxonMobil" I thought "WTF ANOTHER EXHO?!"

:D when does Roger play?

Tuesday.

scoobs
01-04-2009, 10:44 PM
I guess we will soon have an own thread discussing the Federer-Murray rivalry, just as there have been some for Roger and Nadal in here ;)

It's a good thing on the one hand that Roger gets to play against the players who he has difficulties against as much as possible in order to analyze them, on the other hand it doesn't really help the selfconfidence to lose very often against a player.

I'm sure Roger is contented that he won the most important match against Murray last season and isn't afraid to play against him, no matter if it is in a best of 3 or best of 5 match.

Though we are heading into an official tournament now we shouldn't forget that it is still early in the season. It will be interesting to see how Roger plays here, if he still tries to test shots.
Let's see what happens when they next play in a meaningful match. The last was an exo. The one before that was a match that was meaningless for Murray. The only match that Andy's won that was "big" was the semis of Madrid, really. If Roger and Andy have a big match at a slam and Andy wins it - well to me that takes it to a new level. The US Open final was quite indicative that when he really needs it, Roger can still bring the big guns. I'm sure there's more twists and turns in their head to head to come.

Eden
01-04-2009, 10:56 PM
Let's see what happens when they next play in a meaningful match. The last was an exo. The one before that was a match that was meaningless for Murray. The only match that Andy's won that was "big" was the semis of Madrid, really. If Roger and Andy have a big match at a slam and Andy wins it - well to me that takes it to a new level. The US Open final was quite indicative that when he really needs it, Roger can still bring the big guns. I'm sure there's more twists and turns in their head to head to come.

The Shanghai match wasn't obviously that meaningless for Andy ;) It will indeed be interesting to see more matches between Roger and him at a GS.

How much do you think is the current hype around him pressure for Andy?

scoobs
01-04-2009, 11:01 PM
The Shanghai match wasn't obviously that meaningless for Andy ;) It will indeed be interesting to see more matches between Roger and him at a GS.

How much do you think is the current hype around him pressure for Andy?
It was meaningless in terms of pressure - it was all about beating Federer but nothing on the line. When the big one was on the line, he went into his shell a bit. Not saying it was solely the occasion that led to his weak performance in the final, but that was part of it, for sure.

I think the hype is a bit of pressure for Andy - and people are marking him as a major contender in Australia - yet he's played in three times and lost first round twice. He's come on since then but as with Federer in 2003 - until you've won one, who knows if you can actually win one when the time comes?

Eden
01-04-2009, 11:23 PM
I think the hype is a bit of pressure for Andy - and people are marking him as a major contender in Australia - yet he's played in three times and lost first round twice. He's come on since then but as with Federer in 2003 - until you've won one, who knows if you can actually win one when the time comes?

He has made quite a development since he came to Australia the last time. He had tough luck last year to draw Tsonga as 1st round opponent.

This year's AO is surely the most wide open GS tournament we had for a few years.

scoobs
01-04-2009, 11:26 PM
He has made quite a development since he came to Australia the last time. He had tough luck last year to draw Tsonga as 1st round opponent.

This year's AO is surely the most wide open GS tournament we had for a few years.
Well you have to say that there's three strong contenders, one very close behind them, and a couple of dangerous floaters - so yeah it's quite open compared to recent years.

I have a feeling Rafa will make the final this year. Not sure who will join him though.

Eden
01-04-2009, 11:35 PM
Well you have to say that there's three strong contenders, one very close behind them, and a couple of dangerous floaters - so yeah it's quite open compared to recent years.

So you see Rafa, Roger and Novak leading the field with Andy closely behind?

A lot will surely depend on the draw and who gets players as Tsonga.


I have a feeling Rafa will make the final this year. Not sure who will join him though.

Do you expect him to get such a good draw as he had last year again? ;)
It's been a few years now where he is considered to be one of the main favourites for the title - and then he suffered two of the most clear losses of his career... But things have changed for him also since last year's AO.

Anyway, I'm out of here now before people remain us that this is Roger's Qatar thread :p

Sunset of Age
01-04-2009, 11:37 PM
Do you expect him to get such a good draw as he had last year again? ;)
It's been a few years now where he is considered to be one of the main favourites for the title - and then he suffered two of the most clear losses of his career... But things have changed for him also since last year's AO.

Anyway, I'm out of here now before people remain us that this is Roger's Qatar thread :p

Hehe... no, I don't necessarily see Rafa making the finals either, based on what you say here exactly. Too many players around who can take him out on HC - still.
Any of the Big Four have good chances - impossible to pick two for me. Not even to mention the 'floaters' around...

Okay, as you say - wrong thread. :p

SUKTUEN
01-05-2009, 01:35 PM
ALLEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Roger!!!!:bounce::bounce::bounce:

Federerhingis
01-05-2009, 02:46 PM
:) Happy 2009 to you as well Karin. Murray will be a difficult player from here on out for Federer because his return of serve lets him get into a lot more points than Fed is accustomed to on his own serve. On top of this, Murray has a really good serve and he's served a good % against Federer.

Federer's BH has held up pretty well against Andy in their matches, but he's lacked the explosiveness on his FH except in New York. A few years back, any weak shot hit to Fed's FH would be punished and an opponent's chance of winning the point after hitting a weak shot to Fed's FH was very, very low. Murray hits plenty of weak FH's to FEd's FH, but Fed doesn't crush them like he did 2-3 years ago. If he is connecting on that FH, I think he can pull off a good, tough 4 set win. If it's not, it's going to be very tough to win unless Murray is having one of his 40% serving days.

Alex always exquisite with his tennis parlance. :yeah: So true, Roger's forehand has lost some explosiveness over the years especially since mid '07. Those are two very good ingredients when you want to improve your chances of beating Roger, having an amzing return of serve and an explosive consistent double hander. Plus the added bonus of having an explosive serve like Murray's pretty much good odds huh? :p

By the way happy new year Alex. :wazzup: :wavey:

Love seeing Roger looking rested and tanned. So much better than the pale look he sported most of last year.

http://www.qataropen.org/images/stories/roger_arrival.jpg

Great observation Jen, those are good signs of good health and encouraging for his tennis. :wavey: :wazzup:

Sunset of Age
01-05-2009, 04:24 PM
Roger will be playing his match tomorrow as third after Murray's and Nadal's matches. :)

Hopefully someone comes up with a good livestream.

scoobs
01-05-2009, 04:29 PM
:) Happy 2009 to you as well Karin. Murray will be a difficult player from here on out for Federer because his return of serve lets him get into a lot more points than Fed is accustomed to on his own serve. On top of this, Murray has a really good serve and he's served a good % against Federer.

Federer's BH has held up pretty well against Andy in their matches, but he's lacked the explosiveness on his FH except in New York. A few years back, any weak shot hit to Fed's FH would be punished and an opponent's chance of winning the point after hitting a weak shot to Fed's FH was very, very low. Murray hits plenty of weak FH's to FEd's FH, but Fed doesn't crush them like he did 2-3 years ago. If he is connecting on that FH, I think he can pull off a good, tough 4 set win. If it's not, it's going to be very tough to win unless Murray is having one of his 40% serving days.
It's a funny thing about Federer's forehand because not only is it not as potent as it used to be, it's also less consistent - if one had been sacrificed for the other, that would be something, but as a damaging rally shot it's not as punchy as it used to be, and you get wild errors off it now much more than you used to. I don't know if it's a confidence thing, a speed issue in that he's not in position as well as he used to be because he's slowed down a bit, or if it's some technical issue that's crept in and gone unresolved so far.

Definitely with his forehand firing, he has the firepower to get through Murray but he needs to be jumping on Andy's loopy topspin forehands and punishing them every time, and climbing over every second serve.

Without this, Murray is able to get the match on his terms - longer rallies that move Federer around and draw errors.

Will be interesting to see what Federer does here in Doha this week - it's the sort of tournament where, in 08, he'd typically not play that great and lose to someone slightly unexpected.

Or Levy
01-05-2009, 05:15 PM
I don't see too many unexpected people that can stop Roger in Doha, the field is pretty weak.

I mean, only two losses of Roger's 15 losses (am I right?) last year were bizzare, Fish, Roddick and Steph, and I don't think he was even close to being 100% in IW and Miami.

As for Simon and Murray, it may have looked odd in Dubai - but looking at what those guys did the rest of the year, it's anything but.

In other words, I don't expect him to lose till the semis, then its anyone's guess.

Daniel
01-05-2009, 05:18 PM
Vamos Roger, time to start the year kicking murray and pig's ugly butts...

:kiss: :bounce:

biological
01-05-2009, 05:42 PM
Allez Roger! I have a very good feeling about this tournament and this year in general :rocker2:

Fedzy can do great things and I reckon we'll be seeing some of them in Qatar :worship:

Sunset of Age
01-05-2009, 06:14 PM
In other words, I don't expect him to lose till the semis, then its anyone's guess.

That's my feeling as well. He should be able to deal with the 'mugs' well.

Vamos, Rogelio! :rocker2:

rofe
01-05-2009, 06:41 PM
Roger does take time to get into a tournament so he will struggle against "lesser" opponents and based on last year, it is a 60-40 chance that he makes the SF.

His FH explosiveness has certainly taken a hit and I think this is because he has made a conscious effort to get better on clay. His explosiveness comes from a relatively flat forehand while taking the ball really early so it is quite the change for him to employ more topspin while keeping the forehand lethal. Nadal, for example, has had less problems with his transition from clay to Wimbly/HC because he has already mastered (what I term) power topspin with his forehand and he doesn't really need to hit flat forehands for his overall game to work (with the exception being fast-medium to fast surfaces).

In other words, Nadal's game is probably the blueprint (with a few tweaks, e.g. a semi-western grip instead of a western grip) for a successful tennis career going forward due to advances in racquet technology. Roger's game is caught between two worlds - the world of the flat hard forehands and the world of power topspin, the world of relatively heavy racquets (Wilson K Factor KSix-One Tour 90 Racquet)with less control and the world of light racquets with more control (Babolat AeroPro Drive Plus Cortex Racquet).

Rita
01-05-2009, 08:53 PM
i can't wait to see where his game is at
hopefully he's fixed all those problems in his game :unsure:
i'm still a bit sad that's he's not going to be Jose though i really liked him :awww:

nobama
01-06-2009, 05:13 AM
Roger's #2 ranking safe for AO as Gulbis takes out Djerk in Brisbane. :eek:

Rita
01-06-2009, 06:13 AM
i think Djokovic is seriously cursed how many chances has he missed to take over that second spot :lol:

trickcy
01-06-2009, 06:21 AM
Roger's #2 ranking safe for AO as Gulbis takes out Djerk in Brisbane. :eek:
Good news :) :devil:

i think Djokovic is seriously cursed how many chances has he missed to take over that second spot :lol:

:lol: Ya.. Hamburg 08 has been the beginning of that :sad: ;)

ExpectedWinner
01-06-2009, 06:34 AM
Roger's #2 ranking safe for AO as Gulbis takes out Djerk in Brisbane. :eek:

:shrug: Fixed. Djoker doesn't want to play a new goat (Murray) in the SF in Australia. :p

didadida
01-06-2009, 06:42 AM
i think Djokovic is seriously cursed how many chances has he missed to take over that second spot :lol:

Roger's #2 ranking safe for AO as Gulbis takes out Djerk in Brisbane. :eek:

good news for Roger :D
Good luck today :wavey:

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 09:50 AM
Roger's #2 ranking safe for AO as Gulbis takes out Djerk in Brisbane. :eek:

What a nice news to wake up to! :p :p :p

:lol: - I know what's Djoko's problem - he doesn't want to be #2. That position is frightning. :tape:

nobama
01-06-2009, 09:56 AM
:shrug: Fixed. Djoker doesn't want to play a new goat (Murray) in the SF in Australia. :p:lol: I was just coming here to ask who thinks this was a 'tank'.

nobama
01-06-2009, 09:59 AM
What a nice news to wake up to! :p :p :p

:lol: - I know what's Djoko's problem - he doesn't want to be #2. That position is frightning. :tape:I suppose he could be :scared: of Murray and would rather meet Nadal in the SF of AO. Since apparently the top seeds are magically in the SF already (except Roger, of course....he's lost early to some nobody). ;)

yanchr
01-06-2009, 10:08 AM
Roger's #2 ranking safe for AO as Gulbis takes out Djerk in Brisbane. :eek:
I think for Roger it's not a bad idea to be No.3. I personally don't want to see him play Murray in the semis of AO.

Let him draw Djoker pls, and take his revenge :armed: :p

I'm glad the new season has begun :wavey:

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 10:10 AM
Well folks - apparently (I'm too lazy to post the link, but it's there in GM in the Djoko - Gulbis thread), Djoko has now accepted a wildcard for Sydney. :rolleyes:

So he'll have another go at the #2 position. Roger better not make a mess of his chances in Doha.

nobama
01-06-2009, 11:05 AM
Well folks - apparently (I'm too lazy to post the link, but it's there in GM in the Djoko - Gulbis thread), Djoko has now accepted a wildcard for Sydney. :rolleyes:

So he'll have another go at the #2 position. Roger better not make a mess of his chances in Doha.When do the points for AO come off? Djerk has more points to defend than Roger.

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 11:06 AM
When do the points for AO come off? Djerk has more points to defend than Roger.

From what I conclude from GM (for what it's worth), the points for AO come off afterwards. :shrug:

nobama
01-06-2009, 11:12 AM
From what I conclude from GM (for what it's worth), the points for AO come off afterwards. :shrug:Is that because AO starts 5 days later than last year?

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 11:20 AM
Is that because AO starts 5 days later than last year?

Yes... as far as I know. I still have to get used to that new points count crap, so don't pin me down on it... ;)

juninhOH
01-06-2009, 11:41 AM
It doesn't really matter if Roger loses his position for a week though. It's not like he wants to start another streak at #2 :D.

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 12:52 PM
It doesn't really matter if Roger loses his position for a week though. It's not like he wants to start another streak at #2 :D.

Yeah, in the end it doesn't make much difference anyhow. The only thing that counts is the #1 position. ;)

SUKTUEN
01-06-2009, 01:20 PM
ALLEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Roger!!!!!!!:bounce::bounce::bounce:

Rita
01-06-2009, 01:22 PM
Yeah, in the end it doesn't make much difference anyhow. The only thing that counts is the #1 position. ;)

true as roger put it himself “I’m not worried about it. Anyway it’s not the number one spot,”

link
http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news?slug=reu-menqatarfederer&prov=reuters&type=lgns

Rita
01-06-2009, 03:01 PM
:dance:

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 03:02 PM
Are you watching as well, Rita? :)

Rita
01-06-2009, 03:08 PM
Are you watching as well, Rita? :)

yes :D
OMG BH dtl :drool::hearts::inlove:

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 03:14 PM
Looking confident so far. :)

scoobs
01-06-2009, 03:15 PM
Looks pretty sharp at the moment.

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 03:17 PM
Well, I noticed a few balls he might have played better - just a bit TOO sharp at times. Ah, that's Feddie, of course.

Rita
01-06-2009, 03:18 PM
i'm liking it so far

scoobs
01-06-2009, 03:20 PM
Starace with a great behind the back lob over Federer's head there :lol:

Rita
01-06-2009, 03:21 PM
the bh is clicking :worship:

scoobs
01-06-2009, 03:22 PM
Some nice volleying from Roger there.

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 03:22 PM
Starace with a great behind the back lob over Federer's head there :lol:

yeah, as the commenters on my not-so-good livestream said: that's one for the grandchildren! :)

I like Fed's game so far, he's mixing it up well - still a few shanks at time, but that's inevitable with his style of play.

scoobs
01-06-2009, 03:24 PM
Yes, again, I'd use the word sharp. Movement is looking sharp, anticipation looks sharp, shot selection is pretty good so he's thinking clearly...

So far, what you'd hope to see.

morqet
01-06-2009, 03:25 PM
5-2 up and looking good!:yippee:

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 03:25 PM
WOW, what a volley - Flying Fed! :D

scoobs
01-06-2009, 03:26 PM
It's that sort of casual forehand he needs to cut right out this year.

Nice reflexes at the net to win that second point

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 03:27 PM
6-2 in 23 minutes. Now THAT's what I hoped to see! :bounce:

scoobs
01-06-2009, 03:27 PM
Mmm. 6-2.

Very satisfactory.

Rita
01-06-2009, 03:28 PM
keep it up rog :)
that last volley :worship:

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 03:28 PM
Good stats as well. Keep it going Rogi.

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 03:31 PM
What's best so far is that Roger's BH seems to be working real fine.

scoobs
01-06-2009, 03:32 PM
Yes he's hitting some very nice topspin backhands today.

1-1 second set.

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 03:35 PM
And the break is there... great stuff.
Roger is playing so aggressively! :worship:

scoobs
01-06-2009, 03:35 PM
Again, good sharp play from Federer at the net, he breaks for *2-1

Rita
01-06-2009, 03:37 PM
bp convertion looks good too
:lol:

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 03:39 PM
bp convertion looks good too
:lol:

Even more, he doesn't get rebroken after a break! :D

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 03:42 PM
4 - 1... Roger in cruise control. :bounce:

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 03:44 PM
Another fantastic dropshot volley.
I'm really enjoying this.

Rita
01-06-2009, 03:47 PM
roger i have missed you very much :hearts:

scoobs
01-06-2009, 03:49 PM
The sort of performance that we saw all too infrequently from Roger last year.

Calm, controlled, aggressive without being reckless, not JesusFed but competently and smoothly executed plays.

It's been nice to see.

62 52

scoobs
01-06-2009, 03:51 PM
Oops - spoke too soon :lol:

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 03:51 PM
Looked like the proverbial Mirkaland-game coming up now but he made mends so far. :lol:

scoobs
01-06-2009, 03:52 PM
Got it back. 62 62

Very nice.

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 03:53 PM
And it's done! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

We shouldn't get too enthusiastic yet I think - Starace is of course just a journeyman - but it's still very nice to see, finally an aggressive, attacking Fed, good serve, good BH, great tactics. Well done Feds! :hatoff:

scoobs
01-06-2009, 03:55 PM
And it's done! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

We shouldn't get too enthusiastic yet I think - Starace is of course just a journeyman - but it's still very nice to see, finally an aggressive, attacking Fed, good serve, good BH, great tactics. Well done Feds! :hatoff:
Just happy to see him handle his side of the court efficiently, UEs down to a minimum, good attacking play with control...very nice. Good way to start his season proper.

Rita
01-06-2009, 03:56 PM
nice attempt at chocking :lol:
good first match
:yeah:

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 03:57 PM
Just happy to see him handle his side of the court efficiently, UEs down to a minimum, good attacking play with control...very nice. Good way to start his season proper.

It looked like he was very pleased with his performance himself, too. That might just be what he needs most right now - a bit of confidence! :)

biological
01-06-2009, 04:15 PM
Yay for Rogelio :bigclap:

He often starts tournaments a bit slowly so it's great to see a really good performance in the first round :yeah: Not that I saw it of course :awww:

nobama
01-06-2009, 04:15 PM
Just happy to see him handle his side of the court efficiently, UEs down to a minimum, good attacking play with control...very nice. Good way to start his season proper.I didn't get to see it. :( Attacking play? :drool: :drool: :drool:

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 04:17 PM
I didn't get to see it. :( Attacking play? :drool: :drool: :drool:

You'd have liked it A LOT. Roger was constantly charging the net, with good results! :drool: indeed. :D

Rita
01-06-2009, 04:19 PM
^^^ some of the volleys were :drool:

anon57
01-06-2009, 04:24 PM
:( Roger's match had just finished when I got home, so I didn't see a single point. But good to hear he played pretty well:yeah:

didadida
01-06-2009, 04:43 PM
Hi everybody :wavey:

great start for the year ;)
i have watched the match and Roger played great good serve and good forehand and good back hand and it was great to see his bh clicking again :D

keep it up Rogii :yeah::bigclap:

trickcy
01-06-2009, 05:36 PM
It was a good match to watch :D

He was taking almost all the second serves returns early, 2-3 meters inside the baseline and attacking which was great to see :yeah:
Plus, his net game looked good and his movement quite sharp.
His BH was also quite solid and he hit some :drool: BH DTL.
And he finished with almost thrice the winners to UE :)

Hope he keeps it up :bounce:

NYCtennisfan
01-06-2009, 06:27 PM
Very few performances like these last year so good for Federer. Potito is not a threat, but he's not an old man like Santoro either where giving up 3 or less games would be expected.

NYCtennisfan
01-06-2009, 06:27 PM
Very few performances like these last year so good for Federer. Potito is not a threat, but he's not an old man like Santoro either where giving up 3 or less games would be expected.

Sunset of Age
01-06-2009, 06:44 PM
I'm glad to see everyone agree that indeed this was a solid, convincing performance from Roger! :D

Tomorrow, more Hasta La Pasta! :armed:

nobama
01-06-2009, 07:02 PM
Let's hope he keeps it up. Not getting my hopes up after just one match, but hopefully Roger himself now knows he needs to play this way more often.

yanchr
01-06-2009, 10:56 PM
I didn't get to see it either :( But nice to know he was playing well :D Hopefully I can stay up watching the match tonight...

soraya
01-06-2009, 11:02 PM
sounds good news, I will be cautious until I see him pass the real test.

Federerhingis
01-07-2009, 12:19 AM
sounds good news, I will be cautious until I see him pass the real test.

Absolutely however there's no reason to not be encouraged. ;)

Xristos
01-07-2009, 05:01 AM
I dont understand Why Roger is still wearing his 2008 clothing?

Soo odd.

rosamunda
01-07-2009, 09:05 AM
I dont understand Why Roger is still wearing his 2008 clothing?

Soo odd.

Hi - don't usually venture in here, though I'm a huge Fedfan.

I'm sure the clothing thing is the norm. I remember that the past 2 years he wore the same style of outfit as at the end of the previous season, but just changed the colour at the AO. The main reason I remember is because he wore that quite hideous grey-coloured stripey thing at the TMC 06, then wore the same syle, but different colour (baby blue - much nicer:)) at the AO. And last year, red with dark shorts at the TMC, then blue with white shorts (with all black at night) at the AO. Perhaps there will be a colour change again in Melbourne.

I think the style change comes at the start of the spring hardcourt season in the US.

nobama
01-07-2009, 10:17 AM
I dont understand Why Roger is still wearing his 2008 clothing?

Soo odd.I've seen other nike players and they're not wearing their new AO gear either. Nadal is wearing a shirt with sleeves, but I think it's what he was supposed to wear last year and didn't.

Venle
01-07-2009, 11:27 AM
Allez Roger c'moon :yippee:

I haven't seen the match yet. Eurosport might be showing it just now :D So I'm off

nobama
01-07-2009, 12:38 PM
Good luck today Roger! Just do what you did yesterday. No more retreating into 3rd gear mode.

SUKTUEN
01-07-2009, 01:29 PM
Roger well done last night!!:D:D

ALLEZZZZZZZZZZZZ Roger!!!!!!!!!:bounce::bounce:

Rita
01-07-2009, 03:22 PM
first serve % is quite low :unsure:

robinhood
01-07-2009, 03:28 PM
Hello, guys. Long time no post.
Happy New Year to you all.

I haven't read all the posts here, but has this live internet feed been mentioned?

You can watch his current match vs. Seppi here right now.
http://atdhe.net/live-tv-2099.html

If it's old news, excuse me! :D
Good luck to Roger!!!

Rita
01-07-2009, 03:31 PM
Hello, guys. Long time no post.
Happy New Year to you all.

I haven't read all the posts here, but has this live internet feed been mentioned?

You can watch his current match vs. Seppi here right now.
http://atdhe.net/live-tv-2099.html

If it's old news, excuse me! :D
Good luck to Roger!!!



:wavey: yeah it was posted in GM as well

he broke :bounce: but the serve is :o

Xristos
01-07-2009, 03:36 PM
I've seen other nike players and they're not wearing their new AO gear either. Nadal is wearing a shirt with sleeves, but I think it's what he was supposed to wear last year and didn't.

Yes, every Nike player is wearing last year's ranges. It is very strange but Im sure everything will be back to normal in Melbourne.

Rita
01-07-2009, 03:37 PM
:rolleyes:broken

Xristos
01-07-2009, 03:40 PM
:rolleyes:broken

Do he didn't?

Rommella
01-07-2009, 03:40 PM
Aargh, such an error-fest. Where was yesterday's fluidity?

Xristos
01-07-2009, 03:42 PM
Fed 5-3 up!

Rita
01-07-2009, 03:42 PM
serving for the set
please hold :o

Rita
01-07-2009, 03:45 PM
it windy there?
coz i dnt understand why he's missing soo many first serves

Rommella
01-07-2009, 03:45 PM
Phew, one set down, one to go.

robinhood
01-07-2009, 03:54 PM
:wavey: yeah it was posted in GM as well

he broke :bounce: but the serve is :o

Aha, I see! :)

I've been out of the tennis loop since.... the USO, it seems.
Time to wake up!
Or I guess I'll stay in my slumber until AO starts.

Looks like the man's playing well though.

Rita
01-07-2009, 03:59 PM
Aha, I see! :)

I've been out of the tennis loop since.... the USO, it seems.
Time to wake up!
Or I guess I'll stay in my slumber until AO starts.

Looks like the man's playing well though.

really why is that are too busy or is there any other reason why you haven't been following tennis

yeah AO is when the fun really begins :devil: IMO

not a bad match indeed but i still cnt over his server % :o

juninhOH
01-07-2009, 04:20 PM
I'm a bit worried about his back.

I mean, I wonder if his back is 100% ok

Rita
01-07-2009, 04:24 PM
GSM
looved the bh winners in that last game :drool::drool:

scoobs
01-07-2009, 04:25 PM
Not as pretty as yesterday, but Seppi offered more resistance, that's for sure.

63 63 isn't too bad, though. Just needs to tighten up a few things, a bit patchy today.

Rita
01-07-2009, 04:26 PM
I'm a bit worried about his back.

I mean, I wonder if his back is 100% ok

i hope his back is fine :scared:
but you shouldnt be too worried if there was smthing wrong i doubt he would have played the exhibition earlier this year :shrug:

robinhood
01-07-2009, 04:34 PM
really why is that are too busy or is there any other reason why you haven't been following tennis

yeah AO is when the fun really begins :devil: IMO

not a bad match indeed but i still cnt over his server % :o

(First of all, he's beaten Seppi, so yay)
Well, I don't care about smaller tourneys any more. :devil:
It's the SLAMS or nothing! :devil:
His frequent losses don't bother me, either.
That's nature, and he's only human.

It's just different now than say 2004-06 when he was setting all kinds of records.
He's set them all now (save French:mad:), and the only one to go for is 'how many more slams.'

So I guess unless another youngster starts to excite me, and I decide to follow his career the way I was drawn to Fed's, it will be SLAMS or nothing. :D

By the way, I thought Nadal looked somewhat different but couldn't quite say what, until I read another post here - Sleeved Shirt. :o

nobama
01-07-2009, 05:53 PM
Not as pretty as yesterday, but Seppi offered more resistance, that's for sure.

63 63 isn't too bad, though. Just needs to tighten up a few things, a bit patchy today.a straights sets win with no TBs "isn't too bad". :lol:

scoobs
01-07-2009, 06:07 PM
a straights sets win with no TBs "isn't too bad". :lol:
Yeah I know :lol:

It didn't feel quite as comfortable as 63 63 though somehow :)

nobama
01-07-2009, 06:10 PM
Yeah I know :lol:

It didn't feel quite as comfortable as 63 63 though somehow :)I didn't see it so I can't comment on the match but I know what you mean. :)

didadida
01-07-2009, 07:11 PM
yeap his serve wasnt that good and also he made a lot of ufs ,he seemed not comfortable out there ,but it is still his second match of the year :shrug:

Federerhingis
01-07-2009, 08:21 PM
Not as pretty as yesterday, but Seppi offered more resistance, that's for sure.

63 63 isn't too bad, though. Just needs to tighten up a few things, a bit patchy today.

So he was more on and off today Chris? Is that your observation? Was he just being cautious and realized he would still beat Seppi kind of attitude, or more on the careless inconsistent he can tend to show up attitude type of perfomance?

Hello all. :bigwave: :wazzup:

It's still a solid win. ;)

biological
01-07-2009, 08:24 PM
I'm fairly sure his form will improve as he gets into the season :rocker2:

Nice that he won in straights again though, with no stupid TBs or anything. I just hope his serve clicks before he has to play the higher ranked guys.

scoobs
01-07-2009, 08:30 PM
So he was more on and off today Chris? Is that your observation? Was he just being cautious and realized he would still beat Seppi kind of attitude, or more on the careless inconsistent he can tend to show up attitude type of perfomance?

Hello all. :bigwave: :wazzup:

It's still a solid win. ;)
Well Seppi was coming at him a bit more than Starace did yesterday, which I would expect - Seppi was hitting harder and deeper and it was exposing errors from the Federer groundstrokes more often. Roger seemed more on the defensive for longer periods today, and at times didn't quite seem to trust his forehand. His backhand was pretty solid again though overall. I don't think he would be entirely satisfied with his performance, although it still netted him a 63 63 win so it's hardly panic stations.

And, you know, 2nd round of Doha - it's not like this is where it's time to max the game. He did enough to get the win by a comfortable margin, even if it didn't feel that comfortable at times.

The object is to sharpen up his game and matchplay prior to the Australian, that's where he'll want to peak, so although I preferred his performance yesterday, which felt sharper, this was by no means a cause for concern.

Rogieva
01-07-2009, 09:01 PM
I watched the second set. Roger seems to be hitting a lot harder and more aggressive which is very nice to see. He just needs to find the point between being aggressive and making errors. I'm sure he'll find it but a ok performance today. A few :tape: moments tho

Federerhingis
01-08-2009, 05:07 AM
Well Seppi was coming at him a bit more than Starace did yesterday, which I would expect - Seppi was hitting harder and deeper and it was exposing errors from the Federer groundstrokes more often. Roger seemed more on the defensive for longer periods today, and at times didn't quite seem to trust his forehand. His backhand was pretty solid again though overall. I don't think he would be entirely satisfied with his performance, although it still netted him a 63 63 win so it's hardly panic stations.

And, you know, 2nd round of Doha - it's not like this is where it's time to max the game. He did enough to get the win by a comfortable margin, even if it didn't feel that comfortable at times.

The object is to sharpen up his game and matchplay prior to the Australian, that's where he'll want to peak, so although I preferred his performance yesterday, which felt sharper, this was by no means a cause for concern.

Thanks Chris for the nice insight, yeah I totally agree, I rather him have these kind of iffy performances now and on a second round of Doha than at let's say in two weeks at the Aussie Open where it can be a lot more costly. ;) :wavey:

Federerhingis
01-08-2009, 05:09 AM
I watched the second set. Roger seems to be hitting a lot harder and more aggressive which is very nice to see. He just needs to find the point between being aggressive and making errors. I'm sure he'll find it but a ok performance today. A few :tape: moments tho

Ollie mate what's up dude? Been busy? It's been a while since I last read a post of yours. :wavey: :wazzup:

Happy new year and I hope it's been a wonderful start to the new year for you. :yeah:

SUKTUEN
01-08-2009, 12:56 PM
ALLEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Roger!!!:bounce::bounce:

didadida
01-08-2009, 02:44 PM
Monfils is playing the match of his life out there

buzz
01-08-2009, 02:57 PM
^Yes he is hitting amazing shots!

didadida
01-08-2009, 03:07 PM
he is up a set and 5-4 in the second

didadida
01-08-2009, 03:12 PM
Nadal lost 4-6 4-6

Diprosalic
01-08-2009, 03:28 PM
first chance to get a lead on nadal in the race ;)

didadida
01-08-2009, 03:31 PM
Alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lez

Rita
01-08-2009, 03:35 PM
early break :bigclap:
please hold :rolleyes:

didadida
01-08-2009, 03:36 PM
3-0

didadida
01-08-2009, 03:44 PM
he lost the serve
3-2

Rita
01-08-2009, 03:44 PM
broken :(

Diprosalic
01-08-2009, 03:47 PM
kohlschreibers serve looks so retarded. excuse me for the word i dont know i better one

didadida
01-08-2009, 03:51 PM
a break back
good job Fed
4-2 hold now

Rita
01-08-2009, 03:52 PM
kohlschreibers serve looks so retarded. excuse me for the word i dont know i better one

:lol: why do you say that?

yes he broke he better keep holding :fiery:

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:00 PM
great point to finish the set ( great LOB )

Rita
01-08-2009, 04:00 PM
yay takes the first set :banana:

serving much better than yesterday

juninhOH
01-08-2009, 04:00 PM
6-2
keep going :)
can anyone sms me results for semi-final and final?

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:01 PM
6-2

Rita
01-08-2009, 04:02 PM
great point to finish the set ( great LOB )

:worship: at that lob

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:06 PM
a break 2-0

Rita
01-08-2009, 04:07 PM
and he breaks :bounce:

Diprosalic
01-08-2009, 04:09 PM
how long can rafa go on not winning anything but staying no.1?

Rita
01-08-2009, 04:13 PM
slice passing shot :hearts:

Jaz
01-08-2009, 04:22 PM
concentration issues again...

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:23 PM
a break :mad:

Rita
01-08-2009, 04:23 PM
:smash: broken

ExpectedWinner
01-08-2009, 04:26 PM
how long can rafa go on not winning anything but staying no.1?

:haha: Clay court tournaments are not abandoned this year, are they?

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:29 PM
adv Roger

Jaz
01-08-2009, 04:30 PM
Poor...poor..errorfest.

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:30 PM
4 all :mad:

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:32 PM
still i have his play today

Diprosalic
01-08-2009, 04:36 PM
:haha: Clay court tournaments are not abandoned this year, are they?

no, this is why im asking.
if he could make it to the clay seasons without winning a tournament

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:36 PM
5 all

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:38 PM
oh no 15-30
focus

Rita
01-08-2009, 04:38 PM
:unsure:

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:39 PM
30 all

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:40 PM
deuce

juninhOH
01-08-2009, 04:40 PM
not looking good, what was an easy match T_T

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:40 PM
adv Roger

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:41 PM
PHEW

finally 6-5

Rita
01-08-2009, 04:42 PM
rog when will you ever learn to hold serve after a break :smash: this match would have been over by now

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:46 PM
tiebreak

Rita
01-08-2009, 04:46 PM
Tb :scared:

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:47 PM
1 all

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:47 PM
1-2

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:48 PM
1-3

juninhOH
01-08-2009, 04:48 PM
cmonnnnn rogi

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:49 PM
1-4

this is getting very bad

juninhOH
01-08-2009, 04:49 PM
ai ai ai mini break..... TWO minibreaks T_T

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:50 PM
1-5

he shouldnt stay at the baseline

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:50 PM
2-5

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:51 PM
3-5

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:51 PM
3-6

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:52 PM
4-6

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:53 PM
5-6
great Roger

juninhOH
01-08-2009, 04:53 PM
dear god
ACE.

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:53 PM
6 allllllllllllllllllllll

Rita
01-08-2009, 04:54 PM
:worship: another ace please

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:54 PM
7-6
ace just in time

juninhOH
01-08-2009, 04:54 PM
typical of roger would be:

getting from 1-5 to 6-6, then lose the next service (6-7) and lose the next point 6-8 lol
hopefully it wont be like that

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:55 PM
what a champion is he
that last points was fantastic

juninhOH
01-08-2009, 04:55 PM
yesssssss
game set and match roger federer

dumb ass made me nervous with no reason!

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:57 PM
24 winners
24 ufs
4/7 break points
4 aces
72% 1st serve

Rita
01-08-2009, 04:57 PM
thank GOD :o spirit of a champion right there :worship:

needs to learn how to hold serve after a break :smash:

didadida
01-08-2009, 04:58 PM
yesssssss
game set and match roger federer

dumb ass made me nervous with no reason!
:lol:

nobama
01-08-2009, 05:21 PM
yesssssss
game set and match roger federer

dumb ass made me nervous with no reason!I think you need to buck up! :lol:

biological
01-08-2009, 05:32 PM
Yay Fedex! :woohoo: Who will be his next victim? Is it the winner of Murray-Stakhovsky (hoping for another upset...)?

nobama
01-08-2009, 05:33 PM
What's with all the Fed "fans" gloating in the Nadal thread in GM. I will celebrate if Roger wins Doha. But if he looses to either Andy what's there to gloat about? :confused:

nobama
01-08-2009, 05:57 PM
Apparently Murray got a warning from the ump for communicating with his coach. :lol:

Federerhingis
01-08-2009, 08:06 PM
What's with all the Fed "fans" gloating in the Nadal thread in GM. I will celebrate if Roger wins Doha. But if he looses to either Andy what's there to gloat about? :confused:

:tape:

Exactly what's all the gloating about? Nadal is still number one and Federer was supposed to beat all the folks he's beat so far, so what's there to gloat about? :shrug:

nobama
01-08-2009, 09:11 PM
:tape:

Exactly what's all the gloating about? Nadal is still number one and Federer was supposed to beat all the folks he's beat so far, so what's there to gloat about? :shrug:I don't get it. I'm not a Nadal fan so I'm glad he lost, but Roger winning the tournament is more important for me than Nadal getting beat. :shrug:

NYCtennisfan
01-09-2009, 12:01 AM
Federer has been playing except for his first serve which has had no power on it at all. Hopefully he's saving himself for the SF and F. This is the opposite of what happened most of last year. It's not unusual for an aging great to have one or two parts of their game click but have something missing at the same time. If he can get it all together 3 or 4 times this year at the right times...

yanchr
01-09-2009, 02:32 AM
What's with all the Fed "fans" gloating in the Nadal thread in GM. I will celebrate if Roger wins Doha. But if he looses to either Andy what's there to gloat about? :confused:
That thread cracked me up :haha: :haha: So many people are happy when seeing Nadal losing - and that alone is sth to gloat about :lol: It's not at all about Roger my dear :devil::devil:

yanchr
01-09-2009, 02:36 AM
Now back to Roger. He has to come on tonight! No 3 losses in a row to Murray :armed:

trickcy
01-09-2009, 03:29 AM
Nice to see him come back like that in the TB and clinch it.. I'm tired of him coming back only to lose :tape: But he didn't have done that seeing as how he was 4-1 (?) up..
Murray up next :scared: Hopp Roger :bounce:

lunahielo
01-09-2009, 04:08 AM
Best of luck, Roger!!!

crude oil
01-09-2009, 04:09 AM
I find nadal more exciting than murray sometimes :tape:

nobama
01-09-2009, 07:10 AM
Nice to see him come back like that in the TB and clinch it.. I'm tired of him coming back only to lose :tape: But he didn't have done that seeing as how he was 4-1 (?) up..
Murray up next :scared: Hopp Roger :bounce:Gee it's not like Roger's ever lost a lead before....I think sometimes people forget that during '04-'06 Roger had WTF moments and tight matches.

nobama
01-09-2009, 07:13 AM
That thread cracked me up :haha: :haha: So many people are happy when seeing Nadal losing - and that alone is sth to gloat about :lol: It's not at all about Roger my dear :devil::devil:Hey - I love it when Nadal looses. :) But Fed fans will look stupid gloating about Nadal if Murray takes Fed out today.

Rita
01-09-2009, 08:17 AM
Hey - I love it when Nadal looses. :) But Fed fans will look stupid gloating about Nadal if Murray takes Fed out today.

i know :tape: i don't get why any fed fan would even post in that thread :o

SUKTUEN
01-09-2009, 01:45 PM
ALLEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ROGER!!!
GOD Please Bless Roger play his Best tennis tonight!!:worship::worship::bounce::bounce:

Daniel
01-09-2009, 02:35 PM
Go Roger :kiss:

Jaz
01-09-2009, 02:48 PM
Lots of niggly errors at the minute..

didadida
01-09-2009, 03:28 PM
im so worry

didadida
01-09-2009, 03:30 PM
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeees
great point
first set 7-6

didadida
01-09-2009, 03:30 PM
24 winners

16 ufs

didadida
01-09-2009, 03:34 PM
Cmon Fed take the second set

Federerhingis
01-09-2009, 03:44 PM
Donna dear. :hug: :wazzup: :wavey:

Howdy all. :bigwave:

Oh oh, it's always the same story, wins the first set and then all goes down hill from there. :unsure: :scared:

Jaz
01-09-2009, 03:57 PM
I'm really disappointed right now in his play, very annoying simple mistakes.

didadida
01-09-2009, 03:59 PM
Donna dear. :hug: :wazzup: :wavey:

Howdy all. :bigwave:

Oh oh, it's always the same story, wins the first set and then all goes down hill from there. :unsure: :scared:

Luis sweetie :hearts:

how are you? :D

im so worry about the result ,he got broken and he looks so angry and not focusing at all after he got broken :confused:
i wish it wont be the same old story :sad:

didadida
01-09-2009, 04:01 PM
he lost the second set 6-2

ExpectedWinner
01-09-2009, 04:05 PM
He got what he deserved. Against an opponent like Murray, he can't miss his chances at 0-40

didadida
01-09-2009, 04:13 PM
you should give credit to Murray he played that game very well

Jaz
01-09-2009, 04:17 PM
Murray is playing his usual game.

Unfortunately Roger is not serving well, and there's alot of errors.

lunahielo
01-09-2009, 04:21 PM
What's going on...someone please..
I just got online..can't get a live feed..I have the score board.
What happened 2nd set? errors??

Anyone have it live?
Thanks for anything...
Luna

didadida
01-09-2009, 04:21 PM
it is all about his confidence

didadida
01-09-2009, 04:24 PM
What's going on...someone please..
I just got online..can't get a live feed..I have the score board.
What happened 2nd set? errors??

Anyone have it live?
Thanks for anything...
Luna

he got the chance in the firstgame of the second set to break Murray he was 40-0 on Murray serve ,after that Murray played well and Fed lost somehow his self confidence and it finished so fast to end up 2-6

Rommella
01-09-2009, 04:25 PM
Looks like Murray is into Roger's head in the same way that Nadal is.

didadida
01-09-2009, 04:25 PM
got broken
1-3

rwn
01-09-2009, 04:25 PM
Poor attitude, poor thinking skills, poor mentality. What more can you say :o

didadida
01-09-2009, 04:26 PM
Looks like Murray is into Roger's head in the same way that Nadal is.

that is what im thinking about ,and it is so painfull to watch him like that

he is now making a looooooot of errors

lunahielo
01-09-2009, 04:29 PM
Thanks,didadida~~~)

I see he got broken again..3rd set...:(

ExpectedWinner
01-09-2009, 04:31 PM
Looks like Murray is into Roger's head in the same way that Nadal is.

To be quite honest, Murray should have won the first set. He had more chances on Fed's serve.

lunahielo
01-09-2009, 04:32 PM
thanks, everyone..looks like I'll have to get my *cry* icon ready...

Jaz
01-09-2009, 04:33 PM
Looks like it's over guys.

Federer out of ideas, leaking errors, poor serving. I don't think he can win AOopen.

Jaz
01-09-2009, 04:35 PM
Murray wins 6-7, 6-2,6-2

rwn
01-09-2009, 04:36 PM
Amazing to see how easy it is to beat Federer. Murray has the gameplan to basically make him look ordinary.:rolleyes:

Xristos
01-09-2009, 04:37 PM
I miss 05 - 07 Federer.

Rommella
01-09-2009, 04:42 PM
that is what im thinking about ,and it is so painfull to watch him like that

he is now making a looooooot of errors

His last three matches against Murray plus this one have roughly tracked the same storyline. His errors come in bunches and practically everything breaks down, especially the forehand. Sigh, I might have been in denial about Cincy and Dubai but here's proof that there is another player who is well and truly in Roger's head.

didadida
01-09-2009, 04:42 PM
it is all about mind :smash::help::tape:

NYCtennisfan
01-09-2009, 04:45 PM
This was very much like their match in Dubai last year. Federer couldn't return Murray's serve at all, and Federer didn't have much bite on his first serve. I was shocked that Murray didn't break him in the first set; Federer played some really good groundstrokes on 2nd serves to save himself.

Then he had the chance to break early in the 2nd set when he was playing with some confidence and couldn't even though he got up 0-40 on Murray's serve. If he had broken there, I think he wins, but he couldn't and Murray just rolled him.

It's going to be very difficult for Federer to win the AO without his 1st serve. He only had his 1st serve for large portions of the season last year and now he doesn't have it. He needs to find it soon.

Murray is just going to be an absolute beast to stop on hardcourts this year. He's getting more of his serves in and playing aggressively when he needs to.

NYCtennisfan
01-09-2009, 04:47 PM
His last three matches against Murray plus this one have roughly tracked the same storyline. His errors come in bunches and practically everything breaks down, especially the forehand. Sigh, I might have been in denial about Cincy and Dubai but here's proof that there is another player who is well and truly in Roger's head.

It's all about how Murray plays. He has the best CC BH in the game now. His angles aren't as good as Nalbandian's and he doesn't take it quite as early, but he hits with more power. This is a good thing to have against Federer. His serve is big and his return is great. Fed has to play a lot of 1st serve points, and he doesn't feel that confident on his 2nd serves although he did pretty well today. Fed's FH is just not what it used to be. Murray can loop FH's to Fed's FH and not get punished for it which drags the rallies on.

yanchr
01-09-2009, 04:53 PM
I think he played quite ok in the beginning of the 2nd set until he missed his chance. Then it felt like he sort of just let it go in both sets. There was no intensity and hunger to win the match at all. I feel this shouldn't be the case in the Australian Open. The attitude would make a big difference. But he definitely needs his 1st serve back which was so poor today.

I don't think Murray is in his head like Nadal is, but it feels bad to see him lose to him 3 times in a row :o

Rogieva
01-09-2009, 04:54 PM
Ollie mate what's up dude? Been busy? It's been a while since I last read a post of yours. :wavey: :wazzup:

Happy new year and I hope it's been a wonderful start to the new year for you. :yeah:

Hi Luis! Sorry, I have been so busy during the last few months with exams and other things! Same to you, hope you had a good Christmas and NY ;)

Anyway, onto the match :o :o :o

I came back from college and turned on the TV at 6-6 *6-6 and Roger hit a beautiful BH CC to seal the set. From then it was :o at 1-1 0-40 3BPS, Roger lost it.

I don't know what it was, a problem more mental now. Roger can't outslug Murray from the baseline for 25 shot rallys. Very disappointing loss, considering the opponent in the final and the score. Another loss from a set and pretty much a break up :(

Please Roger, win this AO :sad:

yanchr
01-09-2009, 04:56 PM
Amazing to see how easy it is to beat Federer. Murray has the gameplan to basically make him look ordinary.:rolleyes:
He did look ordinary to me most of the time...not to Murray's credit. Simply not the same old Roger...

Rommella
01-09-2009, 04:58 PM
Fed's FH is just not what it used to be. Murray can loop FH's to Fed's FH and not get punished for it which drags the rallies on.

This really bugs me. Why do you think Fed's forehand has become less solid and more hit-and-miss against the top players? Is it a technique glitch that somebody more authoritative than Luthi can spot and therefore help correct? I noticed that when he is pulled wide on his FH side now, his running forehand and squash shots often find the net.

Diprosalic
01-09-2009, 05:20 PM
just hope this is pre USO all over again.

didadida
01-09-2009, 05:31 PM
je suis vrement triste pour federer qui a perdu sette manche je voulais qu'il gagne en australie mais il a perdu