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Cincinnati Draw

MissPovaFan
07-31-2004, 12:01 AM
Roger Federer will face Dominik Hrbaty in the first round of the Cincinnati Masters.

jtipson
07-31-2004, 12:14 AM
Yes, for once he's got a good draw in a mandatory tournament - hurrah! For full draw see the the thread in GM, or in the Cincy forum.

Some good match first round match-ups as ever....

LCeh
07-31-2004, 12:19 AM
I am happy with Roger's draw. If he can play well this weekend, he should probably pick up a few more wins at Cincy to extend his streak...

Skyward
07-31-2004, 12:27 AM
But Roger is 0-1 against Hrbaty. The only meeting took place in 2000 though.

WyveN
07-31-2004, 05:11 AM
Some people suggested Roger will pull out of Cincy, he has looked a bit tired in Toronto, especially his footwork but who knows what Roger's thoughts are.

ytben
07-31-2004, 07:37 AM
:aparty: A good draw at last! Now if only he will pull out ;)

jtipson
07-31-2004, 01:09 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if he does pull out - he seems rather tired and frustrated with his game - but he can't withdraw from next week's event whilst he is still participating in a tournament this week. I'm sure he won't be the only one though, Coria and Ferrero are both injured, so maybe they won't play either.

faboozadoo15
07-31-2004, 07:21 PM
Some people suggested Roger will pull out of Cincy, he has looked a bit tired in Toronto, especially his footwork but who knows what Roger's thoughts are.
could happen, but i think roger's just taking his time in these matches. he hasn't played really well in any of them, but he's still winning with relative comfort just biding his time. he's settling into tournaments the way sampras used to. you hardly ever saw him win 6-2 6-3 or anything.

Daniel
08-02-2004, 09:34 AM
Good luck!!! :bounce: :dance:

jtipson
08-02-2004, 12:22 PM
So he's not going to pull out (according to his Toronto final interview). He did consider not playing in either of the TMS, but if it went well in Toronto he'd play Cincy too. He seems to think that a week either side of the Olympics will give him enough time.

Hrbaty first up then, and he's 0-1. That match was nearly 4 years ago at Bercy though, so I'm not sure we can read a lot into that result.

RonE
08-02-2004, 01:01 PM
I still haven't calmed down from the Toronto final, I'm not even thinking about Cincy right now.

RogiFan88
08-02-2004, 03:11 PM
rogi just win a couple of rds and go to athens... don't overdo it... i get concerned about your health, don't want you to end up like Lleyt and Juanqui... take care of yourself

ytben
08-02-2004, 05:54 PM
Yeah I think it's pretty much confirmed he won't pull out from Cincy. Yeah RF, just hopes he can go a couple rounds and get the much needed rest.

Shy
08-03-2004, 12:05 AM
Yeah I think it's pretty much confirmed he won't pull out from Cincy. Yeah RF, just hopes he can go a couple rounds and get the much needed rest.
break pete winning streak first and lose after a couple of round. Then, go to athen.

LCeh
08-03-2004, 12:11 AM
But that's only the second of Pete's streak. Pete's 24 match winning streak was done in 99, but he had a 29 game winning streak back in 94. If Roger wants to break that, he will at least have to win this tournament. ;)

But I am not expecting him to do so, so, let's at least break Pete's second streak. ;)

Shy
08-03-2004, 12:15 AM
But that's only the second of Pete's streak. Pete's 24 match winning streak was done in 99, but he had a 29 game winning streak back in 94. If Roger wants to break that, he will at least have to win this tournament. ;)

But I am not expecting him to do so, so, let's at least break Pete's second streak. ;)
I know, but I want him to break the second one first.

jtipson
08-03-2004, 02:17 PM
I hope he breaks the 24 streak at least. But even then, he'd only be half way to the greatest Open Era streak (as far as I know): Guillermo Vilas won 50 straight matches in 1977 (I think it was that year).

WyveN
08-03-2004, 04:04 PM
I hope he breaks the 24 streak at least. But even then, he'd only be half way to the greatest Open Era streak (as far as I know): Guillermo Vilas won 50 straight matches in 1977 (I think it was that year).

Well Vilas wont be losing any sleep about that record :)

I dont think Roger is all to concerned about the streaks, he probably knows his chances of winning Cincy are not to high yet he didnt pull out to rest and protect the streak.

mitalidas
08-03-2004, 04:06 PM
wow, did not know about that 50-streak
why have the commentators gone berserk about breaking the 24-streak of pete's if that is itself not a record?

that's an amazing streak for vilas, i presume it was also over various surfaces?

WyveN
08-03-2004, 04:11 PM
why have the commentators gone berserk about breaking the 24-streak of pete's if that is itself not a record?
?

Its strange. Would be nice to break it for Roger but it isn't even Pete's best streak.

mitalidas
08-03-2004, 04:19 PM
yeah, i think the equalizing of borg's 3-surfaces (consecutively) is a much greater achievement. in fact it is an awesome achievement given that it was not done since borg for 25 years.

Raquel
08-03-2004, 06:23 PM
Good Luck Roger :bounce:

He is 4-1 up against Hrbaty right now :)

mitalidas
08-03-2004, 07:57 PM
what happened ? :-(
first round? exhaustion?

LCeh
08-03-2004, 07:59 PM
I guess we will see when his interview comes out.

But oh well, Roger has won so much, I am kinda glad that he can have 2 weeks of rest now. Prepare for Olympics Rogi!

RogiFan88
08-03-2004, 08:08 PM
Ahh... poor tired darling Rogi... he just didn't have enough energy for the first round. Never mind, he's not losing too many pts and who cares about the streak anyway, just another added pressure he doesn't need.

So I wonder what I'll get on TV at 5pm????

So far Rafa's out... at least Carlos, Feli, Fernando still in. Now for Juanqui!

Rest up before flying to Athens, Rogi... he's not playing dbles here is he?? Hope not.

RogiFan88
08-03-2004, 08:09 PM
Rogi has surpassed any expectations. His health is of the utmost importance now.

LCeh
08-03-2004, 08:24 PM
I agree RogiFan. I am glad he lost quickly. Now he won't have as much pressure on him going into the Olympics if he actually won Cincy.

r&bprincess
08-03-2004, 08:25 PM
OMG I can't believe Rogi lost! :eek: :sad: oh well though... just more time for him to win the big titles!

ytben
08-03-2004, 08:28 PM
Rogi :sad: :sad: :sad:
I only watched the third set. He looked so listless out there, never seen him like that before. He must be underestimating his fatique level. The heat doesn't help either. But yeah, good that he can have an extra week of rest. He badly needs it. Rest up Rogi :hug:

tangerine_dream
08-03-2004, 08:43 PM
Eh. After having such an incredible run and solidifying his status as the No. 1 player to beat in the world, he's entitled to a day off and lose (I just wish the loss could have come at somebody else's hands but whatever... ;) ). I guess he was trying to beat Sampras' record. Oh well. :sad: More time for him to relax and rest for the Olympics. Excellent run, Roger. :rocker2:

Federer Fan
08-03-2004, 08:46 PM
There is another good thing about Roger losing, at least now, ESPN will have to show matches from the other good players on tour.

Skyward
08-03-2004, 08:59 PM
There is another good thing about Roger losing, at least now, ESPN will have to show matches from the other good players on tour.

I highly doubt it.
I bet it's going to be a non stop Roddick show. :zzz: Thank god, Fish and Spadea lost. Agassi probably will join them soon. I can't believe that someone is fed up with Roger on american TV.

Raquel
08-03-2004, 09:03 PM
Roger :sad: but I think he has been running on empty recently. This is a good break before the Olympics :)

jtipson
08-03-2004, 09:29 PM
Very sad too. I was quite prepared for him to lose early this week, he's done the hard and necessary work already, but it was heart-breaking after 6-1 and so many bps in the second. Still, better to win the Olympics and the USO than Cincy ;)

Dirk
08-03-2004, 10:29 PM
I agree Jitipson. I don't want Rogi over doing it. Next year he can really gain many points in Cincy.

Shy
08-03-2004, 11:26 PM
Roger seem relief that he losts.He doesn't seem too sad about it.

WyveN
08-04-2004, 12:25 AM
He was going to get tired sooner or later and better now then in olympics or USO. Plus Hrbaty is a very good player so I am not sure why everyone was saying its a easy draw.

mitalidas
08-04-2004, 12:48 AM
Agree with Wyven. I mean, 2 out of 10 break chances sounds either like tremendous mental fatigue (lack of killer instinct perhaps) or just plain bad luck

We're sad now, but the bigger picture is good. Much better 1st round Cincy than 1st round USO or Athens

Skyward
08-04-2004, 01:31 AM
He was going to get tired sooner or later and better now then in olympics or USO. Plus Hrbaty is a very good player so I am not sure why everyone was saying its a easy draw.

His part of the draw is usually very crowded with the likes of Hewitt, Nalbandian, Safin, Henman, Guga, and it wasn't the case this time. I agree that Hrbaty was overlooked, and it's good to have a rest before the Olympics-USO.

WyveN
08-04-2004, 04:03 AM
His part of the draw is usually very crowded with the likes of Hewitt, Nalbandian, Safin, Henman, Guga, and it wasn't the case this time. I agree that Hrbaty was overlooked, and it's good to have a rest before the Olympics-USO.

True, his draw in the QF/3R seemed easier then usual but Roger has been most vulnerable in the first few rounds and most just looked past that

Lalitha
08-04-2004, 07:56 AM
True, his draw in the QF/3R seemed easier then usual but Roger has been most vulnerable in the first few rounds and most just looked past that

Actually, I pitied Hrbaty for getting Roger to play in his first round. But it turned otherwise.

Daniel
08-04-2004, 10:32 AM
Roger :sad:

RonE
08-04-2004, 04:01 PM
He was going to get tired sooner or later and better now then in olympics or USO.

Exactly :yeah:

landoud
08-04-2004, 05:22 PM
He was going to get tired sooner or later and better now then in olympics or USO. Plus Hrbaty is a very good player so I am not sure why everyone was saying its a easy draw.
i agree but i'm still sad about it :hysteric:

Skyward
08-04-2004, 05:56 PM
i agree but i'm still sad about it :hysteric:


What's done is done. His loss is a history already. Let's move on. I must say that we are terribly spoiled. The reality is that he's going to lose some matches, and his game not always will be perfect. As long as he 's not injured, there 's no a real reason for sadness or panic.

RonE
08-04-2004, 06:00 PM
Yes that is so true, we are definitely becoming spoiled. I haven't been this spoiled since Sampras used to have his eye popping winning streaks. The men's game is even deeper today than it was when Sampras was dominating so this is just a tribute to Federer that he is able to maintain such a high standard for such an extended period of time.