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Which Players Need A New Coach?

HattonWBA
12-19-2008, 09:50 AM
Just wondering who you guys think needs a new coach. I think there there are 3 players who i would like to see get a new coach.

1 - Richard Gasquet - Such a talented player, should be in the top 10 easily based on his game and the shots he has at his disposal. However he has really struggled to perform in the face of adversity and under the pressure put on him by the french media etc. I believe Brad Gilbert would be a perfect appointment, some say it would be a clash of personalities, but either way Gasquet must get more ruthless on the court and start performing better in big matches and under pressure of expactations and also fans, if this occurs then a top 10 finish and a major title could be around the corner in my opinion.

2 - Mikhail Youzhny - I know he has been with boris Sobkin such a long time that this may seem like a strange choice, but he has really stuggled both physically and tactically this year, since he came back from his injury i have saw him play a few times to which he has been dreadful, playing to his opoonenets strengths and being naive tactically, therefore i think in order for Youzhny to get back to somewhere near his best and start moving up the rankings he needs to freshen things up.

3 - Evgeny Korolev - Evgeny still has his dad coaching him which is proberbly due to the fact that his father has been coaching him for such a long time, plus the situation proberbly helps both financially and therefore allows Evgeny to manage his way around the tour more effectivley. However Korolev has been a very good talent since he was 18 and broke onto the tour with a 5 set win over Andreas Seppi at Roland Garros a few years back, however having seen him play recently i cant see any real inmprovments over the last 3 years other than pure weight of shot and physical upper body strength, i believe this is due to the fact that his father does not have a tennis brain and therefore is not improving his sons game. I therefore think Evgeny needs a new coach in order to develop his defensive play, net play and consistancy when performing, if this occurs i would not be at all shocked to see a top 30 finish next year due to how talented he is.

reggie1
12-19-2008, 09:58 AM
Gasquet and Gilbert would drive each other nuts!!!!!!!!!!! I don't think having an Egomaniac as a coach would be beneficial to Richard. He has only been with Peyre since April/May so that arrangement needs more time to come to fruition imo.

HattonWBA
12-19-2008, 10:05 AM
Gasquet and Gilbert would drive each other nuts!!!!!!!!!!! I don't think having an Egomaniac as a coach would be beneficial to Richard. He has only been with Peyre since April/May so that arrangement needs more time to come to fruition imo.

I see what you are saying, but like yourself i really admire the way that Gasquet plays but i would love him to be more agressive and ruthless on the court which he isnt when i see him, with Peyre i dont think he is going to live up to his potential, i believe he needs a coach to drive him forward and motivate him more which i believe Gilbert can do more so than any coach Richard has ever had. For example i saw him play Tursunov in Cincinatti and he was playing like 10 feet behind the baseline, a player like Gasdquet needs to drive the ball through the court otherwise he will come of 2nd best like in that encounter. I can see where your coming from though.

oranges
12-19-2008, 10:55 AM
^^ What makes you think Gilbert will be able to motivate him better (or at all for that matter) than a guy with whom he obviously has good communication? As for strategy, I haven't seen him way behind the baseline much since he's been working with Peyre. Don't make observations based on his game 10 months ago and apply them to to his current coach, who IMO is indeed very good for him.

Kolya
12-19-2008, 11:14 AM
Davydenko.

A coach might offer a new perspective.

HattonWBA
12-19-2008, 11:27 AM
^^ What makes you think Gilbert will be able to motivate him better (or at all for that matter) than a guy with whom he obviously has good communication? As for strategy, I haven't seen him way behind the baseline much since he's been working with Peyre. Don't make observations based on his game 10 months ago and apply them to to his current coach, who IMO is indeed very good for him.

What do you know? You must not have seen him play for a long time, im just saying, ok you have your opinion and fair enough, but im saying everytime i watch him he is not playing on the baseline, approaching the net and dictating play. For example against Murray at Wimbledon, in the first 2 sets he was awesome, playing agressive and hitting winner after winner, until Murray got the crowd on his side and then Gasquet started to retrieve further and further back behind the baseline instead of continuing to implement the style that was blowing murray away easily. And i want him to get better, its funny you say Peyre is a good appointment, Gasquet was ranked 9th when he was appointed and now he is 25th, wow what a great job Peyre is doing. LOL. Look everyone's got their own opinion and i respect that, im just saying in my opinion Gilbert could have a good effect on Gasquets game despite the personality clash.

Puschkin
12-19-2008, 11:50 AM
^^ What makes you think Gilbert will be able to motivate him better (or at all for that matter) than a guy with whom he obviously has good communication? As for strategy, I haven't seen him way behind the baseline much since he's been working with Peyre. Don't make observations based on his game 10 months ago and apply them to to his current coach, who IMO is indeed very good for him.

:yeah:

reggie1
12-19-2008, 01:15 PM
HattonWBA, :hug: we know your comments come from a good place, you only want Richie to get better results, like we all do.

PiggyGotRoasted
12-19-2008, 01:26 PM
If Gilbert would be a good coach to anyone, davydenko should hire him.

Michael Bluth
12-19-2008, 03:35 PM
Gulbis needs a new coach. His family is rich as hell so they should be able to pay top dollar for the best coach available. Surprised they haven't done that.

but-it's-ok
12-19-2008, 05:00 PM
Gulbis needs a new coach. His family is rich as hell so they should be able to pay top dollar for the best coach available. Surprised they haven't done that.

So you think his family should spend megabucks on a new coach,oh please:rolleyes: I wondered how long it would take to mention the r word in connection with Ernests family!!! What Gulbis needs is for people like you to back off,:( Being r**h isn't everything,happiness and health is, no amount of money is going to buy that for Ernests, or anyone else.

Player/coach relationships count for a lot:) Money cant influence that either.

reggie1
12-19-2008, 07:35 PM
I don't know how true it is, but apparently there is feeling amongst the ATP that Ernests treats the tour like a country club, plays a bit if tennis, has some R & R and entertains a groupie or two (I'm sure they all do ;)) and doesn't have the real motivation to break the big time. Of course money isn't everything but it can sure take the sting out of being poor and can affect how motivated a player may be when he steps out onto the court. If you read the interviews of lower ranked players, with families and lots to pay out for, money is a motivation for them which is perfectly natural. Just my humble opinion. :)

kiwi10is
12-19-2008, 07:51 PM
Fernando Gonzalez :yeah:

but-it's-ok
12-19-2008, 08:00 PM
Money shouldn't be a motivation for any player. The question being asked here is 'Which players need a new coach?' And my answer as far as Ernests is concerned is an emphatic no. He has only been with his current one for a year, nowhere near enough time for player and coach to get the maximum from each other. Ernests game is still developing.

I repeat that a relationship between player and coach is more important, so money and respect for the Tour issues IMO are not relevant here:) I add that Ernests relationship with his current coach Karl Heinz Wetter is good, and Ernests is keen to learn, develop under his guidance;)

Kitty de Sade
12-19-2008, 08:26 PM
Money doesn't buy results. We've seen high profile coaches crash and burn when there's been no chemistry between coach and player.

To somehow equate the Gulbis' family net worth with future production level and results, doesn't make sense to me at all.

-Evita-
12-19-2008, 09:23 PM
I don't know how true it is, but apparently there is feeling amongst the ATP that Ernests treats the tour like a country club, plays a bit if tennis, has some R & R and entertains a groupie or two (I'm sure they all do ;)) and doesn't have the real motivation to break the big time. Of course money isn't everything but it can sure take the sting out of being poor and can affect how motivated a player may be when he steps out onto the court. If you read the interviews of lower ranked players, with families and lots to pay out for, money is a motivation for them which is perfectly natural. Just my humble opinion. :)

This is slightly off-topic but anyway. I don't know how you can question his motivation. You can't get to top 50 on talent alone, without hard work. The fact that Gulbis has money but still chooses to play tennis at a high level shows he has a lot of motivation, in my opinion. He has said in several interviews that his goal is the same as every other tennis player's goal - to become the #1.

Regarding a new coach - I agree with the previous posters that money can't buy a good coach-player chemistry. I don't think he should change his coach yet.

Henry Chinaski
12-19-2008, 10:06 PM
I hope Gulbis doesn't change coach simply because every time I see Wetter in the stands it cracks me up just how much of an 80's action film bad guy he resembles.

Ozone
12-19-2008, 10:44 PM
James Blake needs a coach more than anyone! Gilbert would be great. James could have a few grand slams and some masters series titles racked up if he would stop messing around and get a good coach!!

Iván
12-20-2008, 12:37 PM
Berdych needs a new coach BADLY

~*BGT*~
12-20-2008, 11:00 PM
You know I agree with Korolev as I've been saying that for the past year. :)

oranges
12-21-2008, 12:31 AM
Berdych needs a new coach BADLY

Berdych has a new coach - Tomas Krupa, since November IIRC.

wcr
12-21-2008, 12:35 AM
Roger Federer and I'd like to see him give Stefan Edberg a call.