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mateuszw
11-25-2008, 07:44 AM
here's the article by a guy who's been writing about tennis for over 30 years:





"Nalbandian solely culpable for Davis Cup debacle

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Posted by Peter Bodo, TENNIS.com

It was supposed to have been a coronation. Instead, as everyone who watched the Davis Cup final this weekend saw, it became a demolition. Those awful crashing and splintering sounds you heard? They were the sounds of David Nalbandian's legacy in Argentine tennis crashing all around him.


Make no mistake about it, this Davis Cup final was meant to be Nalbandian's crowning moment. And in all fairness to this terribly up-and-down, inconsistent performer, his Davis Cup record has been -- by far -- the brightest item on his résumé, especially if you take long-term commitment and all-around excellence into account. Going into the weekend, Nalbandian was 26-8 overall and an outstanding 17-3 in singles.



For a guy who accumulated an impressive reputation as a bon vivant and pick-your-spots competitor (who can forget the way he mailed in a loss in during an early round at Wimbledon a couple of years ago, presumably in order to get off court in time to watch the Argentine World Cup team in action?), Nalbandian has been a surprisingly dedicated Davis Cup player. And in this final against Spain, he was going to seal his legacy by bringing Argentina -- the best nation never to win the Davis Cup -- the coveted trophy.



The word out of Argentina was that Nalbandian was taking this tie so personally that he lobbied to have it played in Cordoba, the big city closest to where he grew up. He also seemed to have a hands-on role in the choice -- and exact composition -- of the playing surface. Make no mistake about it, this was Nalbandian's team and maybe in not such a good way.



The funny thing about Davis Cup is that any squad, even the kind of three-man team that represents some nations' best chance at success, usually has to be more than a sum of its parts. Very few guys can single-handedly win the Davis Cup, and those who pull it off (Bjorn Borg comes to mind) have a way of inspiring their teammates. They end up being carried by the emotions and all-out support of their less-gifted teammates -- or those worker bees are so inspired that they themselves perform above their usual level.



But Nalbandian seemed less a leader than a fairly imperious top dog -- and it showed. He did his job in the first match, but then Juan Martin del Potro played a curiously uninspired second match against Feliciano Lopez (del Potro also suffered a late-match thigh injury that would sideline him for the rest of the tie). It was hard not to explain it, at least partly by the fact that del Potro has become a much better player than Nalbandian, yet he had to buy into the Nalbandian coronation theme.



Under other circumstances, the young lion (del Potro), might have been happy to help the veteran realize his career moment. But the abundant signs of discontent in the Argentine camp suggest that the squad lacked the right kind of leadership. John McEnroe, Andy Roddick, Marat Safin and others have shown that top singles stars are capable of being great team leaders in Davis Cup, but in Nalbandian's case it seemed to work the other way. He seemed to hijack the team for his own greater glory.



By the time the Argentina squad lost the doubles (with Nalbandian on the losing team), the dissension was so profound that Alberto Mancini, the Argentina captain, later had to quash rumors of violent disagreements and near fisticuffs in the losing team's locker room.



No matter how you cut it, inadequate leadership on the Argentina squad helped Spain forge this historic upset. There's only one person to blame for that -- David Nalbandian. It was his show all the way, although "debacle" might be the better noun."

mateuszw
11-25-2008, 07:46 AM
and here's my response posted on espn.com and his own blog. what an idiot:





Dear Peter,

You have been discrediting (translate => purposely writing utter nonsense, translate => attracting traffic to whatever website you post at) yourself for years. By doing so, you have become the biggest joke in the tennis industry. It is actually somewhat amusing to read over some of your writing once in a while, just to confirm that I too could be a star tennis blogger/writer. What is not amusing however, is the fact that the legions of followers that read your rubbish actually take it at face value.

You are lying to people. That is highly unethical. That is the part of your little blogging scam that you are missing. I haven't given up enough time to read more than 3 or 4 of your articles, yet what I did read was exactly spot on towards your self destruction.

Do yourself a huge favor, and read the comments to your article on espn.com about Nalbandian. I am at least glad that people no longer fall for your absurd rantings. I myself could not be less bothered by your fairy tales and fantasies, and thus I've ignored you entirely. But enough is enough. Through your article about Nalbandian, you have crossed a career-ending line.

Have you ever heard of the infinite monkey theorem? Given enough time and attempts, hitting keys randomly, a monkey will write the complete works of William Shakespeare. Now, I am fairly certain that there are less intelligent animals than monkeys.

Let's take an ostrich as an example. I hope you can take some time off from pouring over the latest tennis stats and gossip, and picture this hypothetical situation. It is well known that ostriches like to hide their head in the sand at any sings of trouble. They then consider themselves totally hidden, which is besides the point, but shows how intelligent they can get. Follow me here, and imagine that every time the ostrich (we'll call him dodo for now) hides his head into any random hole in the sand, he strikes a single letter out of a conventional keyboard. I would give dodo no more than a year to come up with a more sensible story about the reasons for Argentina's Davis Cup loss.

Accusing Nalbandian of costing Argentina the title is neither wrong nor stupid, absurd, libelous, crazy, or delusional. No, it is outright medically insane. Please see a psychiatrist on that note. But your mental health is of no concern to anyone and far beyond the scope of this letter.
Your latest article is full of insinuations and gossip. You treat those rantings as facts. Yet you fail to cite any of that garbage. And guess what, it's not surprising, because that is exactly what it is - garbage. You tried to create controversy for the sake of your article, and it backfired on you as proven by the one-sidedly negative comments on espn.com. That is really unfortunate for you, and it almost makes me sympathise with you. But you have to pay the price for your ignorance and insulting your readers' intelligence.

I will not even mention your stance on Luxilon strings destroying the game of tennis. I am not willing to waste any more of my time proving you wrong on this subject. And by God, I do believe I read an article in Tennis magazine advocating that players return to wooden racquets. If that is in fact your actual opinion on the topic, please refer to an earlier paragraph suggesting psychiatric help.

But all that is beside the point. As I already wrote, you have crossed a professional line. I believe libel is the correct word. It won't be tough to find Nalbandian's contact information and make him aware of your great article. That is if he hasn't already read it. Certainly, he can afford a lawyer who'll present him with the options that he can pursue to put you back in your place. espn.com should also seek legal advise and consider a separate lawsuit against you for publishing lies and attacks of personal nature. Tennis.com should follow suit and sue you for the same reasons. Now, I am not sure if your own blog can sue you, but it definitely should do so. If you are its owner, do yourself a favor, file a civil lawsuit against yourself seeking a permanent ban from writing, posting, talking, and even thinking about tennis. Trust me, it'll be to your advantage. No offense intended.
Sincerely,
Matt Wodzinski

Castafiore
11-25-2008, 07:59 AM
You have been discrediting (translate => purposely writing utter nonsense, translate => attracting traffic to whatever website you post at) yourself for years)

Good translation. :lol:

In my opinion, the best way is to just ignore Bodo and his blogs and articles because you just keep on rewarding his attempts to get attention by giving it to him.

bokehlicious
11-25-2008, 08:01 AM
People still read Bodo's? :confused: :scratch:

:zzz:

Sunset of Age
11-25-2008, 10:09 AM
Bozo Does It Again... :rolleyes: :retard:

Best thing to do is to ignore that tool, indeed.

JolánGagó
11-25-2008, 10:09 AM
Your own response is utter crap, verbal diarrhoea at its best. Not a single point in the whole thing, yo do nothing but redundantly spew a string of personal insults wrapped in two of the zoologically absurdest cliches you could possibly fish out of the common knowledge pool.

If any monkey could randomly write with more sense than Bodo, we can safely conclude you're a few more branches down the apes on the evolutionary tree.

GlennMirnyi
11-25-2008, 10:42 AM
Your answer is pathetic.

If Bozo knows shit about tennis, you know even less.

And you're an even worse writer. You can't even make a point, explain why you think Bozo is wrong.

scoobs
11-25-2008, 10:48 AM
Do you have a link to the actual article please?

Snoo Foo
11-25-2008, 10:51 AM
link (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3723372&name=bodo_peter)

Thanos
11-25-2008, 12:05 PM
like many people above said just ignore him and don't read his garbage.

i used to post at tennis.com, i just got sick of his drivel and the posters on there that worshipped him like a saint.

Minerva
11-25-2008, 12:15 PM
Pedro Bozo = :retard: :retard: :retard:

tennizen
11-25-2008, 12:17 PM
like many people above said just ignore him and don't read his garbage.

i used to post at tennis.com, i just got sick of his drivel and the posters on there that worshipped him like a saint.

This is the thing that surprises me the most!!. Are those people real who hang on to every word he writes and act like a bunch of yes-men:lol:

tennizen
11-25-2008, 12:19 PM
Your own response is utter crap, verbal diarrhoea at its best. Not a single point in the whole thing, yo do nothing but redundantly spew a string of personal insults wrapped in two of the zoologically absurdest cliches you could possibly fish out of the common knowledge pool.

If any monkey could randomly write with more sense than Bodo, we can safely conclude you're a few more branches down the apes on the evolutionary tree.

Your answer is pathetic.

If Bozo knows shit about tennis, you know even less.

And you're an even worse writer. You can't even make a point, explain why you think Bozo is wrong.

Have you ever tried to write a reasonable response to Bodo.

1) He ignores it

2) He invents all sorts of contrived reasons for the hate against him

This sort of rant is the only meaningful response to him.

Snoo Foo
11-25-2008, 12:21 PM
Have you ever tried to write a reasonable response to Bodo.

1) He ignores it

2) He invents all sorts of contrived reasons for the hate against him

:help: :tape: :help: :tape: :help:

tennizen
11-25-2008, 12:26 PM
:help: :tape: :help: :tape: :help:

:lol: I think you had some great time on tennis.com in this regard:rolls:

GlennMirnyi
11-25-2008, 12:38 PM
Have you ever tried to write a reasonable response to Bodo.

1) He ignores it

2) He invents all sorts of contrived reasons for the hate against him

This sort of rant is the only meaningful response to him.

Why would I?

1) I don't read tennis experts wannabes and I couldn't care less about what they think.

2) He actually has a point in that article. It's all true.

cmurray
11-25-2008, 01:07 PM
Why would I?

1) I don't read tennis experts wannabes and I couldn't care less about what they think.

2) He actually has a point in that article. It's all true.

Wait a moment. You cannot actually mean to say that you think it was Nalbandian's fault that Del Potro didn't win his match!!???

That's ridiculous to the point of absurdity. :rolleyes:

Action Jackson
11-25-2008, 01:08 PM
Wait a moment. You cannot actually mean to say that you think it was Nalbandian's fault that Del Potro didn't win his match!!???

That's ridiculous to the point of absurdity. :rolleyes:

He has reeled in another fish.

GlennMirnyi
11-25-2008, 01:14 PM
Wait a moment. You cannot actually mean to say that you think it was Nalbandian's fault that Del Potro didn't win his match!!???

That's ridiculous to the point of absurdity. :rolleyes:

It's Fat Dave's fault he played utter crap in doubles.

tennizen
11-25-2008, 01:36 PM
Why would I?

1) I don't read tennis experts wannabes and I couldn't care less about what they think.

2) He actually has a point in that article. It's all true.


1) Then you do not understand the OP's frustration.

2) It's only your love for Nalby that makes you say that:lol:

LinkMage
11-25-2008, 01:44 PM
But Nalbandian seemed less a leader than a fairly imperious top dog -- and it showed. He did his job in the first match, but then Juan Martin del Potro played a curiously uninspired second match against Feliciano Lopez (del Potro also suffered a late-match thigh injury that would sideline him for the rest of the tie). It was hard not to explain it, at least partly by the fact that del Potro has become a much better player than Nalbandian, yet he had to buy into the Nalbandian coronation theme.


:spit:

OMG, this is just too much.

:haha: :haha: :haha:

GlennMirnyi
11-25-2008, 01:45 PM
1) Then you do not understand the OP's frustration.

2) It's only your love for Nalby that makes you say that:lol:

If the OP is frustrated with that article, he must be quite a wussy.

cmurray
11-25-2008, 01:48 PM
He has reeled in another fish.

:rolleyes:

It's Fat Dave's fault he played utter crap in doubles.

This I agree with. Dreadful performance.

tangerine_dream
11-25-2008, 03:18 PM
and here's my response posted on espn.com and his own blog. what an idiot:
Unfortunately your response was as bad if not worse than Bodo's article. You didn't discuss any of the points Bodo brought up, you seemed more intent on coming up with various insults.

Dougie
11-25-2008, 04:32 PM
Accusing Nalbandian of costing Argentina the title is neither wrong nor stupid, absurd, libelous, crazy, or delusional.

This was the only thing you said about the actual issue, and you didn´t even have arguments to back this up.
You can think what you want about Bodo´s opinion, it may even be plain wrong, but he had an opinion, and he explained why he feels that way.

CyBorg
11-25-2008, 04:50 PM
Unfortunately your response was as bad if not worse than Bodo's article. You didn't discuss any of the points Bodo brought up, you seemed more intent on coming up with various insults.

He made one important point that Bodo took gossip and treated it as fact. I don't think the poster's reply has to be structurally sound to get the basic point across and frankly it's Bodo's job to be somewhat rigorous in his writings, not the responder's.

Should we not hold folks like Bodo to greater standards after all? The man is barely coherent, even for a blogger. Even for gossip-blog-standards.

The man is the Rex Reed of tennis writing.

CyBorg
11-25-2008, 04:52 PM
This was the only thing you said about the actual issue, and you didn´t even have arguments to back this up.
You can think what you want about Bodo´s opinion, it may even be plain wrong, but he had an opinion, and he explained why he feels that way.

Bodo is supposed to have arguments to back up his accusations. He's the one that gets payed by word, not the responder.

Opinions are cheap. Bodo makes a very stirring accusation and then doesn't follow through - the suggestion basically is that the Argentinian locker room was a mess and from that we posit that Nalbandian is responsible.

Nalbandian, for all we know, may very well be responsible. But whether this is true or not isn't the point. The point is that Bodo is a mongoloid.

Dougie
11-25-2008, 05:05 PM
Bodo is supposed to have arguments to back up his accusations. He's the one that gets payed by word, not the responder.

Opinions are cheap. Bodo makes a very stirring accusation and then doesn't follow through - the suggestion basically is that the Argentinian locker room was a mess and from that we posit that Nalbandian is responsible.

Nalbandian, for all we know, may very well be responsible. But whether this is true or not isn't the point. The point is that Bodo is a mongoloid.

Bodo didn´t actually say that, he was merely saying that Mancini had to deny rumours that someone trashed the locker room.

I see your point, but if you take the time to write an actual response, you might as well come up with some genuine arguments and not just throw insult after insult. If you say someone is so delusional he needs to seek psychiatric help, I think it would be fair to explain why someone is so badly in need of that help. This has nothing to do with getting paid or not. If you don´t come up with some reasoning, you´re the one looking lke a real clown.

CyBorg
11-25-2008, 05:17 PM
Bodo didn´t actually say that, he was merely saying that Mancini had to deny rumours that someone trashed the locker room.

I see your point, but if you take the time to write an actual response, you might as well come up with some genuine arguments and not just throw insult after insult. If you say someone is so delusional he needs to seek psychiatric help, I think it would be fair to explain why someone is so badly in need of that help. This has nothing to do with getting paid or not. If you don´t come up with some reasoning, you´re the one looking lke a real clown.

I suppose he could have said "source?". Simple and to the point.

Of course Bodo would never reply and truthfully say "my ass".

why,marat,why?
11-25-2008, 08:08 PM
mateuszw, you are an absolutely dreadful writer.

mateuszw
11-25-2008, 08:27 PM
Your own response is utter crap, verbal diarrhoea at its best. Not a single point in the whole thing, yo do nothing but redundantly spew a string of personal insults wrapped in two of the zoologically absurdest cliches you could possibly fish out of the common knowledge pool.

If any monkey could randomly write with more sense than Bodo, we can safely conclude you're a few more branches down the apes on the evolutionary tree.


well of course there are no points in my response. why would there be any? i did not write an article about why argentina lost or why spain won. if i did, i would present you with a whole list of FACTUAL statements. i would not retort to gossip, speculation, personal biases, or other unsubstantiated fantasies.

i know this was harsh, but it was the only way to get his attention.

however, just for you, if you desire so, i will, on here, tell you all about why what happened in argentina happened. i will do it, even though i don't have my own blog on tennis.com and i don't get paid for it. this is a tennis forum and you can always ask for guidance and advise on tennis related matters, which in this case i am willing to provide.

mateuszw
11-25-2008, 08:31 PM
Why would I?

1) I don't read tennis experts wannabes and I couldn't care less about what they think.

2) He actually has a point in that article. It's all true.


please stop embarassing yourself

mateuszw
11-25-2008, 08:34 PM
Unfortunately your response was as bad if not worse than Bodo's article. You didn't discuss any of the points Bodo brought up, you seemed more intent on coming up with various insults.


refer to my post today at 9:27
no point in repeating myself

jayjay
11-25-2008, 08:51 PM
I would love to be more analytical at this point, but I just can't be bothered.

Bodo, fuck off. :hatoff:

Serenidad
11-25-2008, 08:58 PM
Mateuszw. :rolls: Do not hinge your career on persuasive compositions. Terrible. Even if Bodo may be wrong, he supported his argument. You just threw together a clusterfuck of retardation.

alfonsojose
11-25-2008, 09:20 PM
Bozo :lol: he has some interetings point, but he hates Argentina so much it ends being a mess. Nalbadian's ego was growing dangerously and that did affect the outcome.

Henry Chinaski
11-25-2008, 10:24 PM
peter bodo; an example of a ****.

he presents an embarrassingly weak argument.

GlennMirnyi
11-25-2008, 11:56 PM
please stop embarassing yourself

Who are you again?

You know shit about tennis and even less about making a point and explaining it to somebody.

mateuszw
11-26-2008, 12:28 AM
Who are you again?

You know shit about tennis and even less about making a point and explaining it to somebody.


you have convinced me that i indeed know shit about tennis.

i am immediately going to change my nickname to some famous tennis player's last name, start writing 40 posts a day until i reach 30,000 on this forum and maybe then will i be able to attain the level of tennis knowledge comparable to yours.

thanks to your post, i've finally found the reason why i never understood the first thing about tennis.

mateuszw
12-06-2008, 05:11 AM
i still have yet to answer his email.

thought id tell him to choose a topic and we'd both write an article about it and see who makes more sense. but this latest one on challenge system doesnt have me convinced i should ever get back to him. it's worse than anything ive seen yet

krystlel
12-06-2008, 05:33 AM
While I agree that Bodo's article is poor, that was also a very poor response that doesn't address any of the matters written in the article.

Although personally I think Bodo is well aware that his own articles are speculative and controversial, and does them intentionally - so there's no real point in telling him that.

mateuszw
12-06-2008, 06:24 AM
While I agree that Bodo's article is poor, that was also a very poor response that doesn't address any of the matters written in the article.

Although personally I think Bodo is well aware that his own articles are speculative and controversial, and does them intentionally - so there's no real point in telling him that.


krystlel, my response had nothing to do with being analytical and finding out why the argentines lost. if i wanted to address the exact reasons why they did, i would have written an article about it myself.

what this guy is in need of is someone reminding him not to write about fantasy tennis, but try and get back the credibility of a tennis journalist he once held.

do you honestly think that writing a reasonable, fact based answer to his piece of trash article would have caught his attention?

krystlel
12-06-2008, 06:26 AM
krystlel, my response had nothing to do with being analytical and finding out why the argentines lost. if i wanted to address the exact reasons why they did, i would have written an article about it myself.

what this guy is in need of is someone reminding him not to write about fantasy tennis, but try and get back the credibility of a tennis journalist he once held.

do you honestly think that writing a reasonable, fact based answer to his piece of trash article would have caught his attention?
I don't think anything will capture his attention, regardless of what you write. He's probably already used to copping a lot of flack all the time, and maybe even enjoys it to some extent.

But tell me more about this credibility that he once had. As far as I'm concerned, he never had any.

mateuszw
12-06-2008, 06:40 AM
it did get his attention.

can't tell u much about his credibility, but i've read about it somewhere on here that he used to be a good tennis journalist. he's been covering tennis for over 35 years so i guess someone must have been paying attention.

on a different note, nice blog. haven't had a chance to look over it carefully yet, but it's looking well. i think about getting one started myself, but haven't had any experience with blogging or writing on the net yet, so i'm not sure how to go about that. good job though!