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Should mixed doubles tennis be eliminated?

Rafa = Fed Killa
11-24-2008, 01:45 AM
Doubles as a whole is a sideshow to the real singles tennis. Almost no one watches it.

Mixed doubles is an even bigger side show. The male players just pick on the weaker female players and there is no real strategy involved ("just hit to the girl")

This is a pointless sport as men and women should not compete against each other in sports.

finishingmove
11-24-2008, 01:49 AM
u have a good point here.

those are my thoughts as well.

i mean it's ok for recreational purposes, but shouldn't exist on a pro level.

Rafa = Fed Killa
11-24-2008, 01:51 AM
u have a good point here.

those are my thoughts as well.

i mean it's ok for recreational purposes, but shouldn't exist on a pro level.

at a club level or just for fun, it can be k.

but at a pro level men vs women is a joke

Arkulari
11-24-2008, 01:52 AM
I do like same-sex doubles, but mixed doubles? those are only played at the Hopman Cup and the GS tournaments, so they are pretty pointless: no ranking, no points, money prizes are sad and no one cares for it :shrug:
I haven't seen an interesting mixed doubles match since Navratilova retired and nowadays is a joke, only people like the Black siblings and Jamie Murray care for it :shrug:

~*BGT*~
11-24-2008, 01:52 AM
I think the pro tour should just stop at the top 10. No need to have those jokes compete against the real talent. It's just pointless.

Sunset of Age
11-24-2008, 01:54 AM
It only serves as much to have some players find their soul mate on the same side of the net. :angel:

Scotso
11-24-2008, 02:20 AM
Doubles as a whole is a sideshow to the real singles tennis. Almost no one watches it.

Only a handful of (Non-ATP) tournaments have it, and it's not costing them any money, so what exactly would be the point of eliminating it? Simply because you don't like it?

Mixed doubles is an even bigger side show. The male players just pick on the weaker female players and there is no real strategy involved ("just hit to the girl")

That's not a strategy?

This is a pointless sport as men and women should not compete against each other in sports.

Why?

I do like same-sex doubles, but mixed doubles? those are only played at the Hopman Cup and the GS tournaments, so they are pretty pointless: no ranking, no points, money prizes are sad and no one cares for it :shrug:

Compared to the top singles players, yes, the prize money might be small. But compared to the average world worker? It pays, people like it. If they didn't "care for it," they wouldn't play it, and this thread wouldn't exist.

I think the pro tour should just stop at the top 10. No need to have those jokes compete against the real talent. It's just pointless.

OMGz!!!11!!!1!!1!!1! I like, totally, like, agree. ;)

schorsch
11-24-2008, 03:19 AM
no, its fun and people going to those tournaments can go watch these matches and have fun as well. also these matches often are played with less tension and some great stuff can happen during these matches. for example zvonareva's and ram's wimbledon 06 run. their play was just magic at times. i often was like :eek: omg.

also it gives doubles players/specialists an other opportunity to earn some money and get a big title the latter meaning a lot to them. it doesnt have to mean anything to you though. it doesnt really take away from the main channels airtime, so its nothing but a bonus really.

oh and btw.

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keroni
11-24-2008, 11:14 AM
she was trying to go crosscourt, but the ball was too fast for her to control.

got lucky.

scoobs
11-24-2008, 11:26 AM
No. Mixed doubles is fun.

Saumon
11-24-2008, 11:29 AM
How would we know who's dating who without mixed doubles? :confused: :awww:

krystlel
11-24-2008, 11:31 AM
It's barely anywhere, so obviously there is no need to have it removed. Mixed doubles can be more fun than normal doubles because it has the added dimension of the male players trying to impose themselves, and both players trying to target the female player at all times.

GlennMirnyi
11-24-2008, 11:53 AM
Once again this clown bandwagoner starts a crap thread to gather attention.

Attention whore.

Andi-M
11-24-2008, 11:57 AM
XD doubles is more exciting then MDs dont know if thats a compliment or not. Seeing as MDs is painfully boring.

XD is harmless and i actually enjoy it at Wimbledon every year.

Purple Rainbow
11-24-2008, 12:31 PM
One thing I've wondered about concerning mixed doubles (I rarely get to watch it).

Is there some unwritten rule about a man serving against a woman? I suppose it's good manners for the male player not to serve all out when the woman has to return. I can imagine though that good manners only last as long as the match is not too tight.

Anybody has any insight into the etiquette of mixed doubles?

dijus
11-24-2008, 01:22 PM
Once again this clown bandwagoner starts a crap thread to gather attention.

Attention whore.

how funny this comin' from Gu :lol:

AnnaK_4ever
11-24-2008, 02:52 PM
One thing I've wondered about concerning mixed doubles (I rarely get to watch it).

Is there some unwritten rule about a man serving against a woman? I suppose it's good manners for the male player not to serve all out when the woman has to return. I can imagine though that good manners only last as long as the match is not too tight.

Anybody has any insight into the etiquette of mixed doubles?

Safin used to be a gentleman while playing Hopman Cup. In 2005 Gisela Dulko was hitting return winners off his serve :help:
Three weeks later Marat won Australian Open :lol:

GlennMirnyi
11-24-2008, 02:58 PM
how funny this comin' from Gu :lol:

Since when I'm a bandwagoner?

DartMarcus
11-24-2008, 04:36 PM
No.

Dougie
11-24-2008, 05:23 PM
Like somebody already said, it´s played only so rarely on the tour, that I don´t see the harm in it. Why eliminate it, it doesn´t hurt anyone, and it´s hardly obligatory to play it.

CooCooCachoo
11-24-2008, 05:53 PM
Doubles as a whole is a sideshow to the real singles tennis. Almost no one watches it.

Mixed doubles is an even bigger side show. The male players just pick on the weaker female players and there is no real strategy involved ("just hit to the girl")

This is a pointless sport as men and women should not compete against each other in sports.

If you had actually watched some mixed doubles, you would notice that there is much more involved than men just hitting all balls towards women.

Anyways, mixed doubles should stay because it brings a different dimension to the game, there are actually more people watching than you claim, and players tend to have fun while playing doubles. There's more personality involved, which is nice to see.

schorsch
11-24-2008, 05:55 PM
One thing I've wondered about concerning mixed doubles (I rarely get to watch it).

Is there some unwritten rule about a man serving against a woman? I suppose it's good manners for the male player not to serve all out when the woman has to return. I can imagine though that good manners only last as long as the match is not too tight.

Anybody has any insight into the etiquette of mixed doubles?

Well most women have trouble returning big kickers when hit by men and deal with the flat serves much better. JJ for example had a lot of trouble with the kickers in particulary, but Björkmann didnt realize this in the final of Wimbledon 07 and thus JJ was able to return quite well even if he went for huge serves. JJ and J.Muzza went on to win. So sometimes it isnt even that bad not going full out on women as long as there's a lot of kick on the ball.
You dont have to to go for less either, there's no such unwritten rule especially late in the tournament, but of course the men always try to be a little bit conscious of it.

CooCooCachoo
11-24-2008, 05:56 PM
One thing I've wondered about concerning mixed doubles (I rarely get to watch it).

Is there some unwritten rule about a man serving against a woman? I suppose it's good manners for the male player not to serve all out when the woman has to return. I can imagine though that good manners only last as long as the match is not too tight.

Anybody has any insight into the etiquette of mixed doubles?

From my experience, men will serve more with effect and with less power when they serve to the women's side. But this does not mean they are holding back all the time; especially when things get close, they will just hit big serves. And really, women can return these too. Just because they are not used to so much power on the women's tour does not mean that they are incapable of returning powerful shots whatsoever.

luxsword
11-24-2008, 08:04 PM
How would we know who's dating who without mixed doubles? :confused: :awww:
:spit:

Safin used to be a gentleman while playing Hopman Cup. In 2005 Gisela Dulko was hitting return winners off his serve :help:
Three weeks later Marat won Australian Open :lol:
Sweet memories. :awww:

Like somebody already said, it´s played only so rarely on the tour, that I don´t see the harm in it. Why eliminate it, it doesn´t hurt anyone, and it´s hardly obligatory to play it.

:worship: And like Saumon said, it's fun. :)
Not all matches have to be revelant in terms of rankings nor help make big money. It's a game people play, it should be fun. ;)
Anyway, I think mixed doubles make more sense that stupid exhibitions. :angel:

Tutu
11-24-2008, 08:10 PM
Doubles as a whole is a sideshow to the real singles tennis. Almost no one watches it.

Mixed doubles is an even bigger side show. The male players just pick on the weaker female players and there is no real strategy involved ("just hit to the girl")

This is a pointless sport as men and women should not compete against each other in sports.

:weirdo: Thats not true. Well it may be true in a lot of cases, but go and watch a top player playing mixed doubles (esp. Serena, Venus and Jelena and you'll see that they can more than handle their side of the court).

I think its just a bit of fun, and I think the setup of it grabs the attention of a casual tennis fan more than just the monotunous same-sex doubles matches. The players look like they're having a lot of fun too.

RagingLamb
11-24-2008, 08:36 PM
troll thread

GlennMirnyi
11-25-2008, 12:56 AM
From my experience, men will serve more with effect and with less power when they serve to the women's side. But this does not mean they are holding back all the time; especially when things get close, they will just hit big serves. And really, women can return these too. Just because they are not used to so much power on the women's tour does not mean that they are incapable of returning powerful shots whatsoever.

Of course they're incapable of returning big serves.

They already struggle with the regular 2nd serve from men. When they serve 100%, women just can't return.

Byrd
11-25-2008, 01:01 AM
Meh, I agree with Dickface in that Mixed doubles suck, but this is weak even for you Sondra, having to create threads to generate hate, zzzzz....

Jimnik
11-25-2008, 01:13 AM
I would eliminate singles.

Richard_from_Cal
11-25-2008, 01:38 AM
I would eliminate singles.
:lol:


No. to o.p.

ryan23
11-25-2008, 01:52 AM
All doubles matches should be taken of the tour- nobody watches that shit! it should never be televised put it that way

Venle
11-25-2008, 11:12 AM
I like regular men's doubles, not mixed doubles so much.

A woman really can't return a 130mph serve

*snowflake*
11-25-2008, 12:07 PM
:shrug:

It can be hella fun or dead boring, no middle.

Iván
11-25-2008, 02:01 PM
doubles has grown on me in the last few years

CooCooCachoo
11-25-2008, 05:30 PM
Of course they're incapable of returning big serves.

They already struggle with the regular 2nd serve from men. When they serve 100%, women just can't return.

When they serve 100%, men also can't return.

You'd be surprised how many serves women can get back. Certainly, it's not as much as men, but to say that they cannot return whatsoever is idiotic.

GlennMirnyi
11-25-2008, 05:36 PM
When they serve 100%, men also can't return.

You'd be surprised how many serves women can get back. Certainly, it's not as much as men, but to say that they cannot return whatsoever is idiotic.

I have seen a good number of mixed doubles matches and whenever men served as they serve in singles, no chance they'd return decently.

Idiotic is to think women can compete with men in tennis. :rolleyes:

adee-gee
11-25-2008, 05:38 PM
I actually don't mind it.

What's the point in eliminating it? Most players play for fun, and it doesn't clog up any schedules at slams....in fact, it gives a few more matches for people to see on the outside courts in the 2nd week.

Usually some good banter on court and played in good spirits. Not the most entertaining thing in the world but it has its moments.

I'd be tempted to say I'd rather watch a mixed doubles match than a normal doubles match.

CooCooCachoo
11-25-2008, 06:19 PM
I have seen a good number of mixed doubles matches and whenever men served as they serve in singles, no chance they'd return decently.

Idiotic is to think women can compete with men in tennis. :rolleyes:

Of course they cannot compete if a man is put against a woman (and any decent male doubles team would demolish a female team) but the dimensions of the game change when the pairings are mixed.

Of course, women struggle considerably with first serves, but what I am saying is that they are not as pathetic as some people paint the picture; it is not like they get bombarded by aces and service winners whenever they have to return a man's serve.

habibko
01-05-2009, 02:34 AM
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:worship:

Sunset of Age
01-05-2009, 02:38 AM
JC7WVRV99KI

:worship:

Dinara. :worship:

alfonsojose
01-05-2009, 03:33 AM
She aced Simone :D So what happened. Is he a clown, a mug :rolleyes: These stupid threads bashing women's tennis are embarrasing

Acer
01-05-2009, 04:55 AM
It's harmless fun, if you don't like it just don't watch. Not that it's broadcasted anyway...

Ferrero Forever
01-05-2009, 07:09 AM
Mixed doubles is alright. I've liked it ever since that hysterical hopman cup match between medina garrigues/robredo and petrova/tursunov. That was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

JolánGagó
01-05-2009, 07:47 PM
Mixed doubles is alright. I've liked it ever since that hysterical hopman cup match between medina garrigues/robredo and petrova/tursunov. That was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

What happened there?

anon57
01-05-2009, 08:11 PM
What happened there?
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thegoose
01-05-2009, 09:17 PM
That is really funny!!

But anyway. I really enjoy watching Mixed Doubles! As Todd Woodbridge said it is a lot more unpredictable than a lot of singles or men's doubles and at Wimbledon it is still seen as very important! Doubles is vital to the atmosphere of Wimbledon, especially in the second week, as it fills up the outside courts and thousands of people still go there to sit and watch the doubles and enjoy Wimbledon even if they are not seeing Federer or Williams on a show court. Last year I had tickets for Court 1 but still wandered around the outside courts for a long time watching some doubles and saw Vaidisova in a fun mixed match! Also the women are no longer dominatd by the men as they once could have been! Normally a good mixed team has to have a strong female player who can take the risks and thus break the man's serve!

I remember seeing Mary Pierce and Bhupathi win Wimbledon in 2005 and it clearly still meant a great deal to them!

meihaditalab
01-06-2009, 02:43 AM
Its not fair for the women.... Like the men just hit to the women. But most of the time good players never enter mixed:S lol

sammy01
01-06-2009, 03:15 AM
thegoose - i remember mary pierce creaming oliver rochus's serve for winners all over, she wasn't scared of a barely 100 mph serve. in that match of pierce and Bhupathi vs clijsters and rochus, rochus was by far the weakest player on court and it was in '05 when he was top 40.

thegoose
01-07-2009, 01:26 AM
Exactly Sammy01
I remember watching the semis and final (I think I have the final recorded on video somewhere) and the commentators just kept raving about the quality of Pierce's returns and the fact she was the most important player on the court.

ms_nut
01-07-2009, 02:30 AM
Mixed doubles is so much fun to watch especially at the Hopman cup.Pairings like Federer-Hingis,Marat-Myskina are always exciting...

FairWeatherFan
01-07-2009, 06:29 AM
It is a good novelty but not really exciting tennis IMO. It should be kept because it isn't played very often and contributes to the 'epic' feel of the grand slams.

Knightmace
01-07-2009, 07:40 AM
How would we know who's dating who without mixed doubles? :confused: :awww:
who's dating who?

Tzar
01-07-2009, 11:38 AM
I really like mixed doubles personally, it's really fun to watch and is always good to see some exciting pairings.

And guys stop it, some girls can really return man's serve, you just make womans tennis bad, and it's clearly not.

GlennMirnyi
01-07-2009, 02:53 PM
She aced Simone :D So what happened. Is he a clown, a mug :rolleyes: These stupid threads bashing women's tennis are embarrasing

In which world is Simone Bolelli NOT the worst returner in the tour?

GlennMirnyi
01-07-2009, 02:56 PM
Hmmmm, no. Women can't return proper serves from men. The Hopman Cup isn't exactly a good measurement, because nobody is playing for real there. I think mixed doubles of slams are more of a measurement. And there it's completely different.

Rafa = Fed Killa
09-26-2010, 05:22 PM
Hmmmm, no. Women can't return proper serves from men. The Hopman Cup isn't exactly a good measurement, because nobody is playing for real there. I think mixed doubles of slams are more of a measurement. And there it's completely different.

Mixed doubles is for guys who suck too much at real tennis (ie mens singles tennis)

Hopman Cup is an exhibition (not real)

Topspindoctor
09-27-2010, 03:01 AM
No. I find mixed doubles interesting. I actually hope Nadal plays Hopman Cup one day. Just for fun.

ossie
09-27-2010, 08:25 AM
all doubles should be eliminated

Orka_n
09-27-2010, 02:04 PM
all doubles should be eliminatedNo. But mixed doubles is clownery.

Riosreigned
09-27-2010, 02:11 PM
heck no, XD stays! Slam SF and finals and Hopman Cup matches are almost always enjoyable. Safinas played together. Robson with Murray, Seles and Gambill vs. Fed and Hingis. Mixed is a tradition of the sport and should never be eiminated.

sammy01
09-27-2010, 02:21 PM
mixed doubles and doubles as a whole is basically an exo at slams and tournamnets now. it gives the crowds extra matches and is part of late summer evenings as a wimbledon tradition. it doesn't hurt to have them, we very rarely ever see the matches televised anyway.

Mjau!
09-27-2010, 03:37 PM
No, it should be included in the Olympics! :yeah:

borracho
09-27-2010, 03:50 PM
I hate mixed doubles, even on recreational level. On professional level mainly since it's 50% WTA involved.

Tutu
09-27-2010, 06:05 PM
Mixed doubles is fun when top players on both sides are playing. The top women can more than hold their own on a doubles court because doubles eliminates the athletic differences. Go and watch the Williams sisters, Shvedova, Jankovic... Hell, even the then-15 year-old Laura Robson was fine against the men earlier on this year. It was Murray who let the team down in the end because he was too selfish even though she was doing perfectly well and creating opportunities by herself.

The "hit the the women" idea is tired.