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Which fallen player of 2008 has the best chance for a comeback in 2009?

~*BGT*~
11-23-2008, 10:02 PM
I say Andy although Richard might feel a bit freer now that Tsonga and Simon are the chosen ones of France.

TankingTheSet
11-23-2008, 10:07 PM
Are you referring to Roddick? :confused:
I fail to see how you can describe Roddick as a player that "fell" in 2008.
He had a decent year in accordance with his abilities and potential these days. :shrug:
It's not like his previous four seasons were significantly better.

mr_burns
11-23-2008, 10:20 PM
hewiit, of course

it's not that difficult to be better than no 70

but no more top 10 of course

~*BGT*~
11-23-2008, 10:27 PM
Rankings-wise... yes, Roddick fell. :shrug: He made the quarterfinals of the USO, 3rd round at the AO, 2nd round at Wimbledon and didn't play RG.

cobalt60
11-23-2008, 10:32 PM
Rankings-wise... yes, Roddick fell. :shrug: He made the quarterfinals of the USO, 3rd round at the AO, 2nd round at Wimbledon and didn't play RG.

Actually I think of "fallen" as someone who is way down in the rankings. Roddick was still top ten so don't think of him as fallen. An example for me would be Canas who after his suspension came back gangbusters. Or Agassi.

So I would love to see Gaudio come back although I don't hold out much hope. Too hard to speculate in tennis.

Truc
11-23-2008, 10:33 PM
I say Andy although Richard might feel a bit freer now that Tsonga and Simon are the chosen ones of France.Roddick is still top 8, I wouldn't call that a "comeback".
(And Simon is certainly not France's "chosen one", this is BS.)

Baghdatis, obviously (#100).
Grosjean (#172) if he manages to get rid of his shoulder problem, he's in rehab atm.

What happened exactly to Chela, btw, why is he ranked so low now?

adee-gee
11-23-2008, 10:34 PM
Federer :rocker:

Nathaliia
11-23-2008, 10:35 PM
Baghdatis can give more than his current rank indicates, this is for sure.

PiggyGotRoasted
11-23-2008, 10:49 PM
Pim Pim
and
Coria
and
Federer
and
Nadal

FedFan_2007
11-23-2008, 10:57 PM
Nadal and Fed as fallen? Geez you people are harsh.

Igaarg
11-23-2008, 11:19 PM
Federer, and when I say Federer I mean that I would like to see a 2006´s Federer next year, not because Federer had really fallen.

Safin, I really would love to see a Safin playing great.

Coria and Gaudio and Chela and Cañas ;)

CooCooCachoo
11-23-2008, 11:20 PM
Hyung-Taik Lee, I think.

Igaarg
11-23-2008, 11:25 PM
What happened exactly to Chela, btw, why is he ranked so low now?

Shoulder injury. I donīt know when he will come back, I just know that he had married a couple of days ago, and he is making his tv show...I donīt follow his career so much

Kolya
11-23-2008, 11:44 PM
Davydenko fell as well :p

finishingmove
11-23-2008, 11:47 PM
robredo

PiggyGotRoasted
11-23-2008, 11:55 PM
Davydenko will rise to top 3 atleast next year.

Ferrer will rise to 7th

Stepanek will be top 10

Baghdatis will be top 20 atleast

Coria will be top 100

and finally hernandez will be top 20

Caralimon
11-23-2008, 11:57 PM
Shoulder injury. I donīt know when he will come back, I just know that he had married a couple of days ago, and he is making his tv show...I donīt follow his career so much

Chela had an inguinal hernia, he had surgery a couple months ago but it's fine now and he's training to come back most likely in the first weeks of 2009.

Igaarg
11-24-2008, 12:02 AM
Chela had an inguinal hernia, he had surgery a couple months ago but it's fine now and he's training to come back most likely in the first weeks of 2009.


:)That means taht I donīt follow Chelaīs career so much :p thanks!

Rafa = Fed Killa
11-24-2008, 02:47 AM
Davydenko will rise to top 3 atleast next year.

Donkey is going nowhere but down.

Arkulari
11-24-2008, 02:59 AM
Kolya is one of the most consistent players in the tour (four TMC in a row, winning titles every year), but I don't think he'll go over Djoker and Muzza unless something really extreme happens :shrug:

Tsonga came back this year, I would love to see Baghdatis, Safin and Feña coming back next year ;)

Also, if they want to still be in the top FIFTY by the end of 2009, Pics and Wawa need to get their asses in gear :shrug:

Allegretto
11-24-2008, 03:26 AM
Youzhny.

Xristos
11-24-2008, 04:29 AM
Baghdatis.

Knightmace
11-24-2008, 04:41 AM
federer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

Sunset of Age
11-24-2008, 04:43 AM
federer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

Yeah, sure. A player who dropped from #1 to #2... that's surely a 'fallen player', eh?

azza
11-24-2008, 05:51 AM
Nathan Healey will get his head out of his ass and finally crack the top 100

and Peter Luczak wil come back to top 100

PeteCentral
11-24-2008, 06:13 AM
Ljubicic is top 5 material.

General Suburbia
11-24-2008, 06:16 AM
Yeah, sure. A player who dropped from #1 to #2... that's surely a 'fallen player', eh?
When it's Federer you're talking about, yes.

DartMarcus
11-24-2008, 06:34 AM
Taylor Dent

10K Futures Qualifier
11-24-2008, 12:47 PM
Hyung-Taik Lee, Federer, and Hewitt.

10K Futures Qualifier
11-24-2008, 12:47 PM
Or Dent.

Levin
11-24-2008, 12:59 PM
Youzhny
Ferrer
Hewitt

Iván
11-24-2008, 01:03 PM
ljubicic

Damn
11-24-2008, 01:09 PM
Robredo.

dijus
11-24-2008, 01:19 PM
Flo Mayer and J.I.Chela

qczi
11-24-2008, 01:34 PM
baggy, ljubo, chela

CmonAussie
11-24-2008, 02:35 PM
...
I`d like to see Llegs Hewitt make a comeback>> even Top-20 would be pleasing!
Also I hope Paradorn stops fondly Miss.Canada & rejoins the circuit<:)

Voo de Mar
11-24-2008, 02:43 PM
Malisse

The_Nadal_effect
11-24-2008, 05:07 PM
Nalbandian. Considering the expectations one had of him at the beginning of the year.

Also, Baggy.

Kitty de Sade
11-24-2008, 05:13 PM
So I would love to see Gaudio come back although I don't hold out much hope. Too hard to speculate in tennis.

No hope for RG crown #2?! You can't leave me at the party myself. He's in the middle of....finding his motivation. :awww:

Baghdatis too- seeing him w/ a #100 ranking was a shocker, considering.

kiwi10is
11-24-2008, 05:25 PM
Haas

FerrersLinda
11-24-2008, 05:33 PM
Gonzo

And goddamn it ..... I want Zaba back.:( (not exactly a fallen player of 2008, I know)

CooCooCachoo
11-24-2008, 06:58 PM
Nathan Healey will get his head out of his ass and finally crack the top 100

and Peter Luczak wil come back to top 100

Healey :unsure: Well, it'd be nice if he can rise. And there surely are few points to defend next year :tape:

Stawa
11-24-2008, 08:32 PM
Yeah I'd love to see Feņa back, Baghdatis and Hewitt too.

Clara Bow
11-24-2008, 09:07 PM
I would love to see Hewitt come back but I am worried about his physical issues.

Hopefully, Baggy can get his body and mind working

If they can get their heads screwed on straight (a huge if since they are headcases)- I would like to see Youzhny and Ferru have a better year. I would also like for Monaco to do better. He was having a decent year until his injury in Vina del Mar. Then- injury and illness and loss of his singles game.

PiggyGotRoasted
11-24-2008, 09:09 PM
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ChinoRios4Ever
11-24-2008, 09:17 PM
heart: Gonzo
head: Hewitt, Baghdatis, Berdych

CooCooCachoo
11-24-2008, 10:21 PM
Not exactly a fallen player of 2008, but I also think we need to keep an eye out for Karol Beck.

And his compatriot Dominik Hrbaty. Fully expect to see Hrbaty back in the Top 100 next year.

r2473
11-24-2008, 10:26 PM
Safin will win the Grand Slam in 2009. Remain #1 for the next 5 years. Take over GOAT honors.

Everyone knows he can win every match he plays if he wants to.

Voo de Mar
11-24-2008, 10:35 PM
Not exactly a fallen player of 2008, but I also think we need to keep an eye out for Karol Beck.

And his compatriot Dominik Hrbaty. Fully expect to see Hrbaty back in the Top 100 next year.

I don't think so. Hrbaty isn't very old but he has been playing long time and has been very strenuous. I'm afraid he's already exhausted [has played almost 300 ATP tournaments so far (+ 60 Challengers), the majority of very good players finish career around 230-250 tournaments].

dijus
11-24-2008, 10:43 PM
I don't think so. Hrbaty isn't very old but he has been playing long time and has been very strenuous. I'm afraid he's already exhausted [has played almost 300 ATP tournaments so far (+ 60 Challengers), the majority of very good players finish career around 230-250 tournaments].

Voo and his stats :D

federernadalfan
11-24-2008, 10:58 PM
safin, nalbandian, ferrer, baghdatis

LinkMage
11-24-2008, 11:04 PM
Hopefully Fedmug.

Naranoc
11-24-2008, 11:38 PM
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You singlehandedly ruined the joke :o

gaynor
11-25-2008, 12:10 AM
Boggo will finally prove Roddick and Gilbert right and reach top 50 :worship:

Igaarg
11-25-2008, 12:29 AM
Hopefully Fedmug.

Fedmug...Fed and mug are incompatible.

StevoTG
11-25-2008, 01:44 AM
If we are talking in terms of climbing back up the rankings then Hewitt should move well clear of 67 providing that he's okay physically. Same story for Baghdatis who is at 99. Ljubicic (44) and Youzhny (32) could also move back up a few places IMO, maybe 15 places at a guess.

Venle
11-25-2008, 11:42 AM
Baghdatis, Hewitt, Ferrer(o)

lisaplenske
11-25-2008, 01:06 PM
I would say baghdatis,I hope for him cause he's very good player.

About gasquet, this year must not be considered as a fallen year, he had to change his game and rebuilt a physique.
2009 will be gasquet year.

*snowflake*
11-25-2008, 01:12 PM
Ferrer, Youzhny, Gonzalez, Chela, Hewitt, Gasquet





aaaaaaaaaaand Canas and Moya :angel:

anutam
11-25-2008, 03:44 PM
Baghdatis, Youzhny

Michael Bluth
11-25-2008, 05:26 PM
I would say baghdatis,I hope for him cause he's very good player.

About gasquet, this year must not be considered as a fallen year, he had to change his game and rebuilt a physique.
2009 will be gasquet year.

Explain further.

CooCooCachoo
11-25-2008, 06:27 PM
I don't think so. Hrbaty isn't very old but he has been playing long time and has been very strenuous. I'm afraid he's already exhausted [has played almost 300 ATP tournaments so far (+ 60 Challengers), the majority of very good players finish career around 230-250 tournaments].

Having seen him not too long ago (Bratislava Challenger), I've been able to see the level of play he reached without a lot of tournaments under his belt. That level was already Top 150, and I believe he can build upon that. Combined with the fact that he has very few points to defend, I think we'll see more of Hrbaty next year.

To say that he is exhausted is completely unfounded; the guy is very eager to get back out there, and he is still very fit.

CooCooCachoo
11-25-2008, 06:28 PM
Voo and his stats :D

Statistics often don't even tell half the picture.

Voo de Mar
11-25-2008, 06:44 PM
Having seen him not too long ago (Bratislava Challenger), I've been able to see the level of play he reached without a lot of tournaments under his belt. That level was already Top 150, and I believe he can build upon that. Combined with the fact that he has very few points to defend, I think we'll see more of Hrbaty next year.

To say that he is exhausted is completely unfounded; the guy is very eager to get back out there, and he is still very fit.

He returned this year after the injury but sliped clearly already in 2007. Stats often don't show the whole picture, that's true, the same situation with tournaments like Challenger in Bratislava where Hrbaty played against meaningless players like Semjan and Stakhovsky (he hasn't shown anythin interesting excluding Zagreb).

The bold sentence isn't true, in this case, the stats bringing it down - Hrbaty this year before Bratislava played 19 tournaments, ATP and Challengers, always with the same outcome - 1st or 2nd round (except Kosice a couple months ago where he reached QF).

We will see at the end of the next year who is right. I've got great memory, you can be sure I remind it if Hrbaty will be Top 100 player then.

DartMarcus
11-25-2008, 07:00 PM
+Sluiter

CooCooCachoo
11-25-2008, 07:14 PM
He returned this year after the injury but sliped clearly already in 2007. Stats often don't show the whole picture, that's true, the same situation with tournaments like Challenger in Bratislava where Hrbaty played against meaningless players like Semjan and Stakhovsky (he hasn't shown anythin interesting excluding Zagreb).

The bold sentence isn't true, in this case, the stats bringing it down - Hrbaty this year before Bratislava played 19 tournaments, ATP and Challengers, always with the same outcome - 1st or 2nd round (except Kosice a couple months ago where he reached QF).

We will see at the end of the next year who is right. I've got great memory, you can be sure I remind it if Hrbaty will be Top 100 player then.

Yes, he slipped already in 2007, but does that mean that he cannot climb back up?

And you are absolutely right to correct me; he has played more than I thought. But you should also notice that he has not had a bad loss since his loss to Pospisil in Timisoara. All other losses were against good players (or you will probably also call Beck a meaningless player; again based on statistics rather than personal experience).

I also think you are wrong in calling both Semjan and Stakhovsky meaningless. I wasn't overly impressed with Semjan, but he is still a young guy (21) who has not got that much experience and is still developing quite steadily year after year. For Hrbaty to totally demolish Semjan like he did (Semjan only managed to win games on his own service and due to his serve on the fast surface) was an impressive display. Statistics don't reveal that.

As for Stakhovsky, I would argue that he has been doing pretty well in Challengers. For someone with his game style, it is hard to be a Top 100 player, and I think his ranking will, at best, fluctuate between ATP and Challenger level. Zagreb was a fluke win, yes, but that does not mean that Sergiy is a meaningless player, especially not on an indoor surface.

I would suggest you leave the matrices and spreadsheets alone and take a look on the actual tennis courts so you can have a better grasp of what is really going on.

And as for your memory, great :shrug: I expect Hrbaty to rise again, not emulating his old glory days, but definitely to the Top 100. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and I won't care much. If anything, I would not mind not having Hrbaty in the Top 100 as he is not someone I like to see play that much, and the higher a player is ranked, the more likely it obviously is that his matches are televised or live-streamed.

Moreover, I am not afraid to admit when I am wrong. For instance, I predicted Andi Beck to be Top 100 by the end of this season. With just one more week to go, it turns out I am wrong.

Voo de Mar
11-25-2008, 07:21 PM
I would suggest you leave the matrices and spreadsheets alone and take a look on the actual tennis courts so you can have a better grasp of what is really going on.


Besides Wroclaw I haven't possibility to watch Challenger tournaments.

Voo de Mar
11-25-2008, 07:25 PM
(or you will probably also call Beck a meaningless player; again based on statistics rather than personal experience).


No, Beck is a good player IMO, he still suffers this unfortunate punishment but I can agree with you that he has skills to come back to the Top 100.

Henry Kaspar
11-25-2008, 07:35 PM
Davydenko didn't reach a single slam QF in 2008. I guess he will in 2009.

TankingTheSet
11-25-2008, 07:41 PM
Hrbaty can still play well sporadically especially in his home country. He might have a few nice results next year, but in my opinion, based on this season he is far too inconsistent in his current condition to come even close to a top-100 ranking.

Labamba
11-25-2008, 08:04 PM
From what I saw in Helsinki last week, I'd say Hrbaty has a decent chance of getting back to Top 100 next year. He seems extremely motivated, works harder than probably most of the players (always has) and still has the game to be there. The only thing missing at the moment is the confidence, which is unfortunately the hardest thing to get back in tennis. Once you start regularly losing more matches than winning, it's really hard to mentally recover from that.

Baghdatis#1
11-25-2008, 09:18 PM
A lot of players really. There's Safin, Ljubicic, Baghdatis, Ferrer, Ferrero, Clement, and a few more.

why,marat,why?
11-25-2008, 09:29 PM
Marat by no means fell in 2008 (finished ranked in the top 30), but I think he'll find more consistent results in 2009 than he has in the past few seasons. I also think he'll win his first title (probably an MM title, but nonetheless...) in '09.

kobulingam
11-25-2008, 09:36 PM
Fed to win 2 or 3 slams next year and 3+ masters series/cup titles.

dijus
11-25-2008, 11:31 PM
Statistics often don't even tell half the picture.

so true
but it's always interesting to read those Voo's facts ;)

Vicek
11-25-2008, 11:52 PM
Baghdatis and Koubek

Sunset of Age
11-26-2008, 01:20 AM
Baghdatis and Youzhny.

Wouldn't mind seeing Robin Haase come back ALL GUNS BLAZING after his injuries either. :)

Reaz
11-26-2008, 07:31 AM
paradorn srichaphan.

Queens.
11-26-2008, 02:24 PM
Hewitt is always a threat. :yeah:

Jimnik
11-26-2008, 02:30 PM
Maybe Ljubicic or Baghdatis.

TankingTheSet
11-26-2008, 03:02 PM
With regard to Baghdatis and Hewitt I have strong doubts whether their injuries/fitness will completely recover and allow them to get back to a good ranking. Does anyone see these players be healthy and compete consistently throughout next year?

Schu
11-26-2008, 07:16 PM
Don't see Hewitt making a grand come back. With his limited game he has to be in tip top physical and mental shape. His age, other priorities (family) and major injury make it seem very unlikely he can get back to anywhere near the top on a consistent basis.

As for Baggy - don't know about his injury but IF he has recovered from his injuries AND gets in shape, he could be top 10ish. I saw on the Gasquet forum in an article from L'Equipe that Baggy is a new member of Team Lagardere and has been practicing with Gasquet in Paris this week(2 of my favs training together :D). Probably opened up a big can of worms posting that - here come the wisecracks. Anyway I hope BOTH of them get their shit together and play up to their potential in 2009 cuz they are among nicest and the most entertaining players on the tour when they play with their heads screwed on right.

CooCooCachoo
01-10-2009, 09:52 AM
He returned this year after the injury but sliped clearly already in 2007. Stats often don't show the whole picture, that's true, the same situation with tournaments like Challenger in Bratislava where Hrbaty played against meaningless players like Semjan and Stakhovsky (he hasn't shown anythin interesting excluding Zagreb).

The bold sentence isn't true, in this case, the stats bringing it down - Hrbaty this year before Bratislava played 19 tournaments, ATP and Challengers, always with the same outcome - 1st or 2nd round (except Kosice a couple months ago where he reached QF).

We will see at the end of the next year who is right. I've got great memory, you can be sure I remind it if Hrbaty will be Top 100 player then.

You know, Voo, I know he's really not back to the Top 100 yet, but even the Hopman Cup results should be telling.

Voo de Mar
01-10-2009, 10:52 AM
You know, Voo, I know he's really not back to the Top 100 yet, but even the Hopman Cup results should be telling.

His very good performance in Hopman Cup didn't change my opinion (I've to admit he played against Safin hell of match in each department).
There is a big difference between playing against well-known opponents in front of the big audience and playing against young-hungry players on the outside courts... it awaits for Hrbaty because with his current ranking he has to play qualies in many tournaments this year.
He is now a good target for young players, beating him - the guy who has overcome many top players, including Sampras and Federer - is very encouraging for young players who just begin to climb in the ranking.

Pity for him that Hopman Cup matches don't count in the ranking.

Andi-M
01-10-2009, 11:39 AM
Misha is good enough to crack top 20 again !

Nathaliia
01-10-2009, 11:42 AM
Mayer already showed some sort of comeback in New Caledonia.

Koubek, Chela and Malisse are my other suspects.

CooCooCachoo
01-17-2009, 11:16 AM
His very good performance in Hopman Cup didn't change my opinion (I've to admit he played against Safin hell of match in each department).
There is a big difference between playing against well-known opponents in front of the big audience and playing against young-hungry players on the outside courts... it awaits for Hrbaty because with his current ranking he has to play qualies in many tournaments this year.
He is now a good target for young players, beating him - the guy who has overcome many top players, including Sampras and Federer - is very encouraging for young players who just begin to climb in the ranking.

Pity for him that Hopman Cup matches don't count in the ranking.

Three very convincing wins in qualies, losing 14 games in total against Yani, Ghedin & Chiudinelli [:sobbing:].

Now against Isner.

CooCooCachoo
01-17-2009, 11:17 AM
Oh, Malisse and Mayer also through to the AO MD.

Mayer vs. Ouahab
Malisse vs. Llodra

Both are not bad draws.

Voo de Mar
01-17-2009, 11:21 AM
Three very convincing wins in qualies, losing 14 games in total against Yani, Ghedin & Chiudinelli [:sobbing:].

Now against Isner.

Good draw for him, I expected he would lose qualies (but before I knew the draw, it was lucky draw) but should overcome Isner.

sigmagirl91
01-17-2009, 11:26 AM
The two finalists of the Medibank International tournament.

Thanos
01-17-2009, 12:08 PM
i think hrbaty and malisse will be back in the top 100 very soon.

if hewitt stays injury free, he should be back in the top 25.

Kolya
01-17-2009, 12:10 PM
Mayer and Hrbaty I hope!

Jedan Bjelorus
01-17-2009, 12:48 PM
Some people mentioned Ljubičić here,but i think he isn't that player who can do a real comeback.He'll be 30 years old this year,and his results are strongly goes don after it's pick.
And he has to defend a lot of points at Roland Garros.In my opinion last year his 1/8th there happens because of big part of luck,I doubt he can manage even in third round this year.
I hope Ljubo will do well in Zagreb and Umag,and at 2-3 other tournaments.I expect he'll finish 2009 year around 80-90 position,but I'd be so glad to be mistaken.. :worship: