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Is Del Potro playing?

Komodo
11-22-2008, 07:50 PM
Someone wrote in the thread about Lopez and Verdascos doubles win that Alex Corretja said that Del Potro most likely isn't going to play.

What have the argentines been hearing about this?

He seemed to be cramping on saturday, which wouldn't be a reason not to play him against Ferrer tomorrow.

God help Argentina if Acasuso plays tomorrow on that fast indoor hard court.
There is no chance whatsoever that he could win.

Nalbandian is a very safe bet against Lopez if it comes to the 5th rubber in my opinion.

Del Potro just has to play tomorrow!

Regards,
Komodo

TMJordan
11-22-2008, 07:51 PM
http://www.tennis-x.com/images/players/Acasuso_07_newhead.jpg

ChinoRios4Ever
11-22-2008, 07:53 PM
Delpo is OUT, Acasuso will play.

Bilbo
11-22-2008, 07:56 PM
mighty acasuso is going to play :retard:

Komodo
11-22-2008, 07:56 PM
Then good night Argentina.
Too bad, because I would love to at least see Nalbandian play that 5th rubber.

PiggyGotRoasted
11-22-2008, 07:59 PM
Why didnt argentina play Coria?
He is there commentating and would do a better job than Acamugchokeacuso

Bilbo
11-22-2008, 08:02 PM
chucho has one of the worst indoors record on tour. he won an incredible 12 matches in his career :tape: :lol:

jayjay
11-22-2008, 08:03 PM
Someone wrote in the thread about Lopez and Verdascos doubles win that Alex Corretja said that Del Potro most likely isn't going to play.

Nothing has been decided, there is still a chance for him to be available.

http://www.ole.clarin.com/notas/2008/11/22/tenis/01808203.html

Tensa espera

"Vamos a hacer todo para que Del Potro pueda jugar mañana", dijo Diego Rivas, el kinesiólogo de Argentina. Los estudios de ayer "confirmaron que es una contractura y que no tiene una lesión muscular", agregó, y contó que hoy a la noche volverán a controlarlo

No alcanzó para despejar las dudas sobre el físico de Del Potro, pero sí para alimentar la esperanza de que pueda jugar mañana ante David Ferrer. El kinesiólogo del equipo argentino, Diego Rivas, aseguró que se harán "todos los esfuerzos" para que el tandilense esté presente en el cuarto punto de la final de Copa Davis.

Los estudios que se hicieron ayer "confirmaron que es una contractura y que no tiene una lesión muscular", apuntó Rivas en declaraciones a TyC Sports, y descartó las versiones que hablaban de una distensión en el aductor y que lo dejaban ya afuera de la final.

Se mostró esperanzado sobre las posibilidades de que Del Potro llegue para mañana, aunque dejó también supeditada a esa situación los controles que se le realizarán esta noche.

Finalmente, la sensación es que todo dependerá de dos factores: 1- el resultado del dobles, que podría dejar a Argentina en estado de suma necesidad si queda abajo en el marcador; 2- la decisión final de Alberto Mancini, que deberá determinar si Del Potro, aún en las actuales condiciones, es una mejor opción que José Acasuso o Agustín Calleri, que no tuvieron grandes resultados en el año.

federernadalfan
11-22-2008, 08:03 PM
might as well just hand the trophy to spain
:hatoff: to spain for winning the 2008 DC

GlennMirnyi
11-22-2008, 08:05 PM
Someone wrote in the thread about Lopez and Verdascos doubles win that Alex Corretja said that Del Potro most likely isn't going to play.

What have the argentines been hearing about this?

He seemed to be cramping on saturday, which wouldn't be a reason not to play him against Ferrer tomorrow.

God help Argentina if Acasuso plays tomorrow on that fast indoor hard court.
There is no chance whatsoever that he could win.

Nalbandian is a very safe bet against Lopez if it comes to the 5th rubber in my opinion.

Del Potro just has to play tomorrow!

Regards,
Komodo

:haha:

What an amazing post.

The highlighted part almost made me fall off my chair laughing.

Not that I disagree, it's just such a bland way to say it. :lol:

JolánGagó
11-22-2008, 08:14 PM
If Chucho plays the Argies are fu*ked up.

Even if DelPony makes it Verdasco should play, not Ferrer... and then Granollers plays the dead rubber with whomever else.

kai.
11-22-2008, 08:15 PM
:sad: its done, if delpo will not play tomorrow and
SR.AMARGO will play....
goodbye DC... see ya in 2009 O.O

:sad: :sad:

kai.
11-22-2008, 10:04 PM
its done..

chucho will play tomorrow..

http://www.ole.clarin.com/notas/2008/11/22/tenis/01808237.html

finishingmove
11-22-2008, 10:16 PM
i believe in chucho.

do it for the masses.

jayjay
11-22-2008, 10:20 PM
He has nothing to lose and maybe playing at home will keep him in it enough to get chances to win. If he serves well, he gives himself a chance, and if he wins he becomes a hero.

If he loses, it will be the expected result and not where the tie was truly lost.

scarecrows
11-22-2008, 10:31 PM
it would be too funny if Chucho made the performance of his life winning tomorrow and then Fat Dave lost to Lalo

LinkMage
11-22-2008, 10:31 PM
If he loses, it will be the expected result and not where the tie was truly lost.


Agreed. The tie was lost thanks to Del Mugtro being a greedy asshat who decided to fly 25 hours to Shanghai and back to get some more money. He got even more tired than he was, killing his chances of winning his matches in this tie. He should have stayed in Argentina resting for the final and getting his toes healed. :mad:

PiggyGotRoasted
11-22-2008, 10:34 PM
Why are Argentina not using the obvious choice of Gullermio Coria?
I mean hes there and he would be a better choice than Acamugchokeso so why not

dylan24
11-22-2008, 10:36 PM
stoner is probably high right now.

dylan24
11-22-2008, 10:37 PM
jose lost to oscar hernandez on indoor hard court this year.
coria or gaudio would have better chance than this clown

Albop
11-22-2008, 10:38 PM
Charly Berlocq should have been nominated. :(

JolánGagó
11-22-2008, 10:41 PM
ESV has said that in principle Spain is playing with Ferrer and LaLo. This is stupid, Ferrer wouldn't beat my grannie tomorrow.

kai.
11-22-2008, 10:44 PM
Charly Berlocq should have been nominated. :(

he have an injury :S


Why are Argentina not using the obvious choice of Gullermio Coria?
I mean hes there and he would be a better choice than Acamugchokeso so why not

:lol: u are right pleasee i anybody but no chucho

Garson007
11-22-2008, 10:45 PM
What an ugly match coming up for a final. :tape:

buddyholly
11-22-2008, 10:48 PM
They should play the Nalby-Lopez match first, setting up a dream fifth rubber.

jayjay
11-22-2008, 10:50 PM
Agreed. The tie was lost thanks to Del Mugtro being a greedy asshat who decided to fly 25 hours to Shanghai and back to get some more money. He got even more tired than he was, killing his chances of winning his matches in this tie. He should have stayed in Argentina resting for the final and getting his toes healed. :mad:


1. JMDP deservedly qualified for TMC for 1st time in his career and had every right to go there and play.

2. His toe was no problem on friday, he picked up a completely new injury.

3. Injury was not the main cause of defeat, he was largely outplayed by the better player on the day.

4. If it wasn't for JMDP, we wouldn't even have been in the final this year.

5. Let's just say it goes to a 5th live rubber and Nalbandian loses and you come out with your usual shit. Be fucking ashamed of yourself, if it wasn't for Nalbandian carrying the team each and every year for the past 4/5/6 years we'd be playing in Saturn/Mars Zone III.

fast_clay
11-22-2008, 11:00 PM
oh dear...

what a f*** up

LinkMage
11-22-2008, 11:03 PM
1. JMDP deservedly qualified for TMC for 1st time in his career and had every right to go there and play.

2. His toe was no problem on friday, he picked up a completely new injury.

3. Injury was not the main cause of defeat, he was largely outplayed by the better player on the day.

4. If it wasn't for JMDP, we wouldn't even have been in the final this year.

5. Let's just say it goes to a 5th live rubber and Nalbandian loses and you come out with your usual shit. Be fucking ashamed of yourself, if it wasn't for Nalbandian carrying the team each and every year for the past 4/5/6 years we'd be playing in Saturn/Mars Zone III .


1. He went there and got his ass handed to him by Djokovic and Davydenko. There was no way he was going to win the tournament, so he should have rested for the tournament he had a chance of winning: Davis Cup.

2. Yes, but he still looked really tired on court before that.

3. In part due to him being tired as hell which prevented him from playing at his highest level. Besides, even if he lost that match he could have still won on Sunday. Now he won't be able to play and we will have to rely on Acasusto.

4. Someone else could have beaten Andreev.

5. Where did I say something bad about Nalbandian? Only complained about him missing that volley in the TB, nothing else.

Komodo
11-22-2008, 11:14 PM
You tell me how likely it is for a player that hasn't ever set a real mark on men's tennis to play no less than two (!) directly decisive davis cup final rubbers?

Jose Acasuso is your man.
He already played the 5th rubber in 2006 in Moscow and lost to Safin in a 4th set tiebreak. I believe everybody thought that he had done good and just was overmatched.

Tomorrow, he will once again get the honour to play a decisive finals rubber, given that imo Nalbandian would take the 5th easily.
Once again, he won't win it.

He has been horrible the last few weeks of this season

Metz: Beat Canas, lost to Tursunov 2-6 2-6
Stockholm: Beat Bachinger, lost to Oscar Hernandez 6-2 3-6 4-6
Basel: Lost to Stephane Bohli 3-6 2-6

Come on, that is just ridiculous.

I'd really love to see Nalbandian play that 5th match tomorrow, but it isn't going to happen.

Regarding who is to blame, well, that's maybe what you get when you expect so much from a 20 years old player who hasn't been in the top for very long and is tired after founding his climb in the rankings on winning a lot of matches in the late part of the season.
Then again, he is a top 10 player, and you could rightfully expect of him to beat Lopez.

The blame will be on young JMDP's shoulders, as he was demanded to win that match.

In my opinion you can't blame neither Calleri for being a weak player nor Nalbandian for not being a stellar doubles player who does it all even on saturday, nor Acasuso for (hypothetically but very very probably) losing against a much better player.

Regards,
Komodo

jayjay
11-22-2008, 11:15 PM
1. He went there and got his ass handed to him by Djokovic and Davydenko. There was no way he was going to win the tournament, so he should have rested for the tournament he had a chance of winning: Davis Cup.

So what? Just because he didn't win the tournament is not reason enough not to go. He had a full week between his last match in Shanghai and his first match in Davis Cup, that is sufficient time, this is the normal life of a top tennis player. He better get used to it, and you better deal with it.

2. Yes, but he still looked really tired on court before that.

It's up to him to decide what he feels his body can or can't handle, not you, or me, or anyone else.

3. In part due to him being tired as hell which prevented him from playing at his highest level. Besides, even if he lost that match he could have still won on Sunday. Now he won't be able to play and we will have to rely on Acasusto.

Injuries are part of sport. Shit happens and we have to deal with it. Spain lost their best player because of injury and they are getting on with it. We lost our 3 best players because of injury before the Malaga tie with Spain in 2003, we got on with it (and took it to a 5th live rubber).

Davis Cup is a team event, now someone other than Nalbandian or Del Potro has to stand up and win a match, about time one of the other players contributed in a big match instead of relying on Nalbandian to bail them out all the time, or now Del Potro (who will win many more matches for Argentina in the future).

4. Someone else could have beaten Andreev.

lol, like who?

5. Where did I say something bad about Nalbandian? Only complained about him missing that volley in the TB, nothing else.

You didn't. You have in the past and I'm sure you can't wait to do it again in the future, because you are fickle and have no sense of perspective whatsoever. Consider that response as a long overdue one after much of your (and others) crap over a prolonged period of time. :hatoff:

KaiserT
11-22-2008, 11:41 PM
How definate is Del Potro not participating in tommorows match?

It's not been confirmed by anyone official has it?

TIA

kai.
11-22-2008, 11:53 PM
How definate is Del Potro not participating in tommorows match?

It's not been confirmed by anyone official has it?

TIA

luli confirmed today at the press conference.

KaiserT
11-22-2008, 11:54 PM
Thanks alot :)

kai.
11-22-2008, 11:58 PM
Thanks alot :)

and also the medical stuff said than he was not able to play.


1. JMDP deservedly qualified for TMC for 1st time in his career and had every right to go there and play.

2. His toe was no problem on friday, he picked up a completely new injury.

3. Injury was not the main cause of defeat, he was largely outplayed by the better player on the day.

4. If it wasn't for JMDP, we wouldn't even have been in the final this year.

5. Let's just say it goes to a 5th live rubber and Nalbandian loses and you come out with your usual shit. Be fucking ashamed of yourself, if it wasn't for Nalbandian carrying the team each and every year for the past 4/5/6 years we'd be playing in Saturn/Mars Zone III.


:worship: i agree with u

KaiserT
11-23-2008, 12:03 AM
So he trained after the doubles but Luli and doctors saw that he wasn't fit enough?

kai.
11-23-2008, 12:24 AM
So he trained after the doubles but Luli and doctors saw that he wasn't fit enough?

yeap.. that is what a local newspaper said.

but also in other newspaper say than, luli said than he will decided it tomorrow O.O :rolleyes:

KaiserT
11-23-2008, 12:27 AM
yeap.. that is what a local newspaper said.

but also in other newspaper say than, luli said than he will decided it tomorrow O.O :rolleyes:

Yes I read the second part, and officially it seems that he hasn't confirmed anything. I will have to keep a close watch over the next 12 hours.

Serenidad
11-23-2008, 12:34 AM
Acasuso. :spit:

Aurelien
11-23-2008, 12:35 AM
I really hope Del Potro will be able to play so we could see Nalbandian in the last match. Acasuso would need a miracle to win

KaiserT
11-23-2008, 12:48 AM
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2008/11/22/um/m-01808202.htm

The start of article says Del Potro out and Acasuso replacing him.

And at end it says still undecided. :|

Odds on betfair move down for Spain 1.85 to 1.66 and then out again to 1.75 atm.

So is Del Potro now likely to play?

its.like.that
11-23-2008, 02:42 AM
Sure Acasuso has been a clown this year. But is everyone forgetting the form of Ferrer? :confused:

finishingmove
11-23-2008, 02:45 AM
Sure Acasuso has been a clown this year. But is everyone forgetting the form of Ferrer? :confused:

it will be a match to remember...

its.like.that
11-23-2008, 02:46 AM
The crowd needs to get a lot more involved also.

Spanish team are a bunch of pansies - Nando, Lalo and Ferrer. Rafa is not even there ffs.

KaiserT
11-23-2008, 02:46 AM
Sure Acasuso has been a clown this year. But is everyone forgetting the form of Ferrer? :confused:

Nope :)

Ferrer can lose to anyone who can serve, run and rally at the moment. He looks completely and utterly gone, and has no confidence.

I plan to back Acasuso vs Ferrer if I can get decent odds.

its.like.that
11-23-2008, 02:47 AM
it will be a match to remember...

Hey you're that guy I defeated in the ACC!!!!

:banana:

finishingmove
11-23-2008, 02:48 AM
i'd like to see chucho get some inspiration. maybe it should come in the form of a blunt object thrown onto his head.

its.like.that
11-23-2008, 02:48 AM
Unfortunately for the Argies, Stuttgart will probably play on Chucho's mind as well.

finishingmove
11-23-2008, 02:49 AM
Hey you're that guy I defeated in the ACC!!!!

:banana:

i took a set :D

its.like.that
11-23-2008, 02:50 AM
it would be too funny if Chucho made the performance of his life winning tomorrow and then Fat Dave lost to Lalo

:lol::yeah:

If this happens and Lalo beat Nalby in 5 sets, I may never come back to MTF!

Henry Chinaski
11-23-2008, 02:52 AM
step in chucho

it was obvious it was gonna come down to him and or gordo to win it. some of us have been sazing it for months.

chucho played a prettz fucking good match against Sain in the 06 final. if he can bring that level he has a real chance here. being dogs right now will suit the argies/

RGK
11-23-2008, 03:00 AM
its 100% Del Po will not play?

finishingmove
11-23-2008, 03:03 AM
its 100% Del Po will not play?

yes

KaiserT
11-23-2008, 03:08 AM
yes

It's not.

Absolutely nothing official.

Just some speculative and contradictory Argentine newspaper articles.

finishingmove
11-23-2008, 03:11 AM
It's not.

Absolutely nothing official.

Just some speculative and contradictory Argentine newspaper articles.

they should know

TankingTheSet
11-23-2008, 03:11 AM
As I said before, Chucho might have a better chance of winning against Ferrer than Nalbandian against Lalo tomorrow.

jayjay
11-23-2008, 03:16 AM
As I said before, Chucho might have a better chance of winning against Ferrer than Nalbandian against Lalo tomorrow.

Don't worry about Nalbandian winning, he will, if given the chance.

KaiserT
11-23-2008, 03:17 AM
they should know

Yep, but the main article everyone is quoting carries two stories on the same page.

First that Acasuso is replacing Del Potro.

Second that Mancini doesnt know about Del Potro and may decide tonight or tommorow morning after having a session with Del Potro and Acasuso...

For personal reasons I hope Del Pots has pulled out, but I dont think anything is confirmed.

finishingmove
11-23-2008, 03:27 AM
crazy as it seems, i think acasuso - ferrer would be the most beneficial for argentina at the moment

KaiserT
11-23-2008, 03:32 AM
So do I :)

Even ferrer cant lose to a man who cant run........ can he?

Deivid23
11-23-2008, 06:30 AM
Verdasco vs Chucho it is. Fun guaranteed

LocoPorElTenis
11-23-2008, 06:49 AM
ESV has to be really stupid to make Ferrer play, Verdasco is obviously the superior choice for Spain. Acasuso has a chance of beating Ferrer, not a huge one, but between two struggling players anything can happen. But Chucho is never beating Verdasco. If Spain wins it will be totally deserved, both teams were unlucky with injuries but Spain has more depth and that is just crucial in DC.

LocoPorElTenis
11-23-2008, 06:51 AM
Verdasco vs Chucho it is. Fun guaranteed

Am I correct that captains may still change the teams until a couple of hours before the match? But the rumours and the logic do point to that match. Verdasco has a history of choking but he's so superior to Acasuso and is coming with all the confidence from the doubles that it's hard to imagine anything but an easy 3 set win for Nando.

iriraz
11-23-2008, 07:01 AM
I wonder why Spain even picked Granollers in this tie if he won`t play anyways.A guy like Moya or Ferrero would be a good choice to play against someone like Acasuso

Jelena
11-23-2008, 07:12 AM
I read now in no olé article that the match will be Verdasco-Chucho. So this should be the match.

Deivid23
11-23-2008, 07:25 AM
Am I correct that captains may still change the teams until a couple of hours before the match? But the rumours and the logic do point to that match. Verdasco has a history of choking but he's so superior to Acasuso and is coming with all the confidence from the doubles that it's hard to imagine anything but an easy 3 set win for Nando.

I don´t know the rules exactly but I think you´re right, captains still can change the official lineup (which still is JMDP vs Ferrer btw) till one or two hours before game time. Verdasco should be a fav no doubt, but you never know with him, he could fold like a cheap tent under pressure like he has done many times

TeamID
11-23-2008, 07:50 AM
ESV has to be really stupid to make Ferrer play, Verdasco is obviously the superior choice for Spain. Acasuso has a chance of beating Ferrer, not a huge one, but between two struggling players anything can happen. But Chucho is never beating Verdasco. If Spain wins it will be totally deserved, both teams were unlucky with injuries but Spain has more depth and that is just crucial in DC.

Why do you think that Chucho is capable of beating Ferrer but not Verdasco?
He won his only meeting with Verdasco in straight sets.

Bilbo
11-23-2008, 08:04 AM
He has nothing to lose and maybe playing at home will keep him in it enough to get chances to win. If he serves well, he gives himself a chance, and if he wins he becomes a hero.

needless to say i hope he'll lose. he also wouldn't deserve being a davis cup hero imo. what has he done in his career or ever contributed to his team?

sorry my argentines friends but not this guy :shrug:

Bilbo
11-23-2008, 08:07 AM
Verdasco vs Chucho it is. Fun guaranteed

disgrace of a davis cup final match

Horatio Caine
11-23-2008, 08:14 AM
1. JMDP deservedly qualified for TMC for 1st time in his career and had every right to go there and play.

2. His toe was no problem on friday, he picked up a completely new injury.

3. Injury was not the main cause of defeat, he was largely outplayed by the better player on the day.

4. If it wasn't for JMDP, we wouldn't even have been in the final this year.

5. Let's just say it goes to a 5th live rubber and Nalbandian loses and you come out with your usual shit. Be fucking ashamed of yourself, if it wasn't for Nalbandian carrying the team each and every year for the past 4/5/6 years we'd be playing in Saturn/Mars Zone III.

Well said mate. :hatoff:

Horatio Caine
11-23-2008, 08:21 AM
I wonder why Spain even picked Granollers in this tie if he won`t play anyways.A guy like Moya or Ferrero would be a good choice to play against someone like Acasuso

Not another one pulling for Ferrero. :help: Was shocked (well, not really I guess) to see a fan quote on BBC Sport also saying something similar...he is well past it, as is Moya.

Horatio Caine
11-23-2008, 08:29 AM
Even if he is playing poorly at the moment, I think Ferrer is possibly still the better candidate (over Verdasco). I don't think Verdasco is a particularly poor match-up for Chucho...and then there is his temperamental state, and the fact that Nando hasn't been playing tennis to quite the same standard as he was over the summer. :shrug: No doubt he is the better indoor player than Chucho, but I wouldn't put a huge amount of weight on that, tbh.

iriraz
11-23-2008, 08:40 AM
Not another one pulling for Ferrero. :help: Was shocked (well, not really I guess) to see a fan quote on BBC Sport also saying something similar...he is well past it, as is Moya.

Even though both players are past it,both have Davis Cup experience and against Acasuso they should be able to finish the job.Picking Granollers made no sense at all if they only let him to play in dead rubbers only situations.They needed a 4th player here but they don`t have it i guess

its.like.that
11-23-2008, 09:37 AM
Even if he is playing poorly at the moment, I think Ferrer is possibly still the better candidate (over Verdasco). I don't think Verdasco is a particularly poor match-up for Chucho...and then there is his temperamental state, and the fact that Nando hasn't been playing tennis to quite the same standard as he was over the summer. :shrug: No doubt he is the better indoor player than Chucho, but I wouldn't put a huge amount of weight on that, tbh.

Let's compare the form of the two.

Ferrer:

L David NALBANDIAN (ARG) 3-6 2-6 3-6
L Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) 3-6 2-6
L Feliciano LOPEZ (ESP) 4-6 6-7(4)
L Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) 1-6 5-7
W Takao SUZUKI (JPN) 4-6 6-3 6-2
W Jesse LEVINE (USA) 6-4 4-6 6-1
L Dudi SELA (ISR) 3-6 3-6
W Andy RODDICK (USA) 7-6(5) 2-6 1-6 6-4 8-6
L Kei NISHIKORI (JPN) 4-6 4-6 6-3 6-2 5-7
W Andreas BECK (GER) 4-6 7-5 6-3 7-6(5)
W Martin VASSALLO ARGUELLO (ARG) 7-6(1) 6-2 6-2
L Janko TIPSAREVIC (SRB) 6-7(8) 2-6
L Nicolas LAPENTTI (ECU) 6-7(2) 6-3 3-6


Verdasco:

L Andy MURRAY (GBR) 3-6 6-7(6)
W Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) 6-2 6-7(6) 6-2
L Andy MURRAY (GBR) 0-6 3-6
W Rainer SCHUETTLER (GER) 7-5 6-2
W Karlis LEJNIEKS (LAT) 6-1 6-3
W Teimuraz GABASHVILI (RUS) 1-6 6-4 6-3
L Marin CILIC (CRO) 2-6 3-6
L Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) 2-6 3-6
W Guillermo CANAS (ARG) 6-1 6-2
W Victor CRIVOI (ROU) 6-4 6-4
L Juan Carlos FERRERO (ESP) 5-7 4-6
W Bobby REYNOLDS (USA) 6-3 6-3


Nothing for either player to write home about really, but this applies more to Ferrer, who has lost his last 9 sets in a row, than Nando.

Komodo
11-23-2008, 09:44 AM
Let's compare the form of the two.

Ferrer:

L David NALBANDIAN (ARG) 3-6 2-6 3-6
L Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) 3-6 2-6
L Feliciano LOPEZ (ESP) 4-6 6-7(4)
L Juan Martin DEL POTRO (ARG) 1-6 5-7
W Takao SUZUKI (JPN) 4-6 6-3 6-2
W Jesse LEVINE (USA) 6-4 4-6 6-1
L Dudi SELA (ISR) 3-6 3-6
W Andy RODDICK (USA) 7-6(5) 2-6 1-6 6-4 8-6
L Kei NISHIKORI (JPN) 4-6 4-6 6-3 6-2 5-7
W Andreas BECK (GER) 4-6 7-5 6-3 7-6(5)
W Martin VASSALLO ARGUELLO (ARG) 7-6(1) 6-2 6-2
L Janko TIPSAREVIC (SRB) 6-7(8) 2-6
L Nicolas LAPENTTI (ECU) 6-7(2) 6-3 3-6


Verdasco:

L Andy MURRAY (GBR) 3-6 6-7(6)
W Tommy ROBREDO (ESP) 6-2 6-7(6) 6-2
L Andy MURRAY (GBR) 0-6 3-6
W Rainer SCHUETTLER (GER) 7-5 6-2
W Karlis LEJNIEKS (LAT) 6-1 6-3
W Teimuraz GABASHVILI (RUS) 1-6 6-4 6-3
L Marin CILIC (CRO) 2-6 3-6
L Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) 2-6 3-6
W Guillermo CANAS (ARG) 6-1 6-2
W Victor CRIVOI (ROU) 6-4 6-4
L Juan Carlos FERRERO (ESP) 5-7 4-6
W Bobby REYNOLDS (USA) 6-3 6-3


Nothing for either player to write home about really, but this applies more to Ferrer, who has lost his last 9 sets in a row, than Nando.

Well, recheck this post of mine and you'll realize that it doesn't matter and that both guys look pretty damn go(o)d compared to Chucho. :-)

"You tell me how likely it is for a player that hasn't ever set a real mark on men's tennis to play no less than two (!) directly decisive davis cup final rubbers?

Jose Acasuso is your man.
He already played the 5th rubber in 2006 in Moscow and lost to Safin in a 4th set tiebreak. I believe everybody thought that he had done good and just was overmatched.

Tomorrow, he will once again get the honour to play a decisive finals rubber, given that imo Nalbandian would take the 5th easily.
Once again, he won't win it.

He has been horrible the last few weeks of this season


Metz: Beat Canas, lost to Tursunov 2-6 2-6
Stockholm: Beat Bachinger, lost to Oscar Hernandez 6-2 3-6 4-6
Basel: Lost to Stephane Bohli 3-6 2-6

Come on, that is just ridiculous.

I'd really love to see Nalbandian play that 5th match tomorrow, but it isn't going to happen.

Regarding who is to blame, well, that's maybe what you get when you expect so much from a 20 years old player who hasn't been in the top for very long and is tired after founding his climb in the rankings on winning a lot of matches in the late part of the season.
Then again, he is a top 10 player, and you could rightfully expect of him to beat Lopez.

The blame will be on young JMDP's shoulders, as he was demanded to win that match.

In my opinion you can't blame neither Calleri for being a weak player nor Nalbandian for not being a stellar doubles player who does it all even on saturday, nor Acasuso for (hypothetically but very very probably) losing against a much better player.

its.like.that
11-23-2008, 09:53 AM
How come you weren't in the ACC?

:lol:

Komodo
11-23-2008, 10:26 AM
I honestly don't know what you mean; I'm normally only posting with a serious state of mind, and that very seldomly. :)

Ok, maybe it was funny that i requoted my own post, but I consider it interesting that a player of Acasusos caliber gets to play no less than two deciding DC final rubbers, and wanted to highlight this fact which wasn't really picked up the first time.
Maybe because it isn't interesting at all, what do I know.

Furthermore, his last indoor matches should be interesting for most people who cbb to check them.

Anything else that you disagree with or find problematic? :angel:
Oh, and just checking your posting history, I realize that you have 33 k posts of which a great part are incredibly witty oneliners, so consider my response above invalid and feel treated with a friendly wavey :wavey:.

/komodo

KaiserT
11-23-2008, 11:37 AM
Does anybody know?

:confused:

Action Jackson
11-23-2008, 11:41 AM
Watch the livestream and you will find out.

Deivid23
11-23-2008, 11:41 AM
Nothing is official until 1 hour before start. But despite all the fuss and everybody saying sth different Acasuso vs Verdasco is what I expect to see

finishingmove
11-23-2008, 11:47 AM
coria - hernandez imo

its.like.that
11-23-2008, 11:48 AM
:lol:

I wasn't questioning the validity of your post.

I simply found it amusing that you were repeating yourself to me.

You are right, it is strange for a guy like Chucho to be in 2 such important Davis Cup matches. I just hope he can win.

:)

Action Jackson
11-23-2008, 11:57 AM
Calleri and Granollers

KaiserT
11-23-2008, 11:58 AM
Calleri and Granollers

Are you kidding me? :|

KaiserT
11-23-2008, 12:10 PM
Lol, anyone?

I'll give lots of vcash if can confirm ;)

catatonia
11-23-2008, 12:16 PM
Lol, anyone?

I'll give lots of vcash if can confirm ;)

http://www.daviscup.com/news/newsarticle.asp?articleid=15474

Acasuso v Verdasco it is

iriraz
11-23-2008, 12:17 PM
So Acasuso plays.Interesting

Byrd
11-23-2008, 12:18 PM
Love the irony of the surface.

Deivid23
11-23-2008, 12:19 PM
Told ya, fun guaranteed

PiggyGotRoasted
11-23-2008, 12:37 PM
Everyone is going to look completely stupid is Acacuso wins now..

PiggyGotRoasted
11-23-2008, 12:53 PM
Acasuso will win, I am almost 100% sure but not quite so sure if nalbandian will win.

Byrd
11-23-2008, 01:00 PM
Acasuso will win, I am almost 100% sure but not quite so sure if nalbandian will win.

Other way round...

scoobs
11-23-2008, 01:05 PM
It's Verdasco vs Chucho

Wolfy
11-23-2008, 01:14 PM
Smart choice:confused: