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Jaz
11-14-2008, 12:50 PM
Roger's mishits are back..

trickcy
11-14-2008, 12:50 PM
What a point :worship: :bowdown:

Jaz
11-14-2008, 12:53 PM
Point of the series i think...

Jaz
11-14-2008, 12:54 PM
Roger going for a winner on the bacckhand = FAIL

trickcy
11-14-2008, 12:54 PM
SPs AM

Jaz
11-14-2008, 12:55 PM
Rogers serve looks ineffective, but Murray is playing well.

trickcy
11-14-2008, 12:56 PM
Set Am..
All that effort for nothing.. Sigh..

didadida
11-14-2008, 12:56 PM
lost the second set

didadida
11-14-2008, 12:56 PM
58% serve
47% first serve points won

Jaz
11-14-2008, 12:56 PM
Deciding set. :(

rwn
11-14-2008, 12:57 PM
Nice try, Roger. Better luck next year.

trickcy
11-14-2008, 12:58 PM
58% serve
47% first serve points won

And according to the site, 24 UE and 2/6 BPs converted..

Billabong
11-14-2008, 12:59 PM
CMONNN FEDDD you can win this set, give your all you can do it:bounce:!!!

Jaz
11-14-2008, 12:59 PM
Nice try, Roger. Better luck next year.

Did I miss something? There's still another set, and as far as I know if Roger wins he goes through.

Jaz
11-14-2008, 01:00 PM
Fed with back problems.

Billabong
11-14-2008, 01:00 PM
I really hope he's gonna fight for that one, he needs this win so much!!! And he needs a tight victory:D!

didadida
11-14-2008, 01:01 PM
trainer time :sad:

Roger :sad:

Herdwick
11-14-2008, 01:02 PM
:sad: Not looking good - not used to seeing Roger with the trainer.

Mrs. B
11-14-2008, 01:02 PM
his bad back seems to be back...

first time EVER we see Roger have a treatment like this during a match. :(

nobama
11-14-2008, 01:02 PM
Trainer out for Roger. Kiss this match goodbye. :sad:

Mrs. B
11-14-2008, 01:02 PM
HOPP, ROGER!!! Fight fight fight!!!

trickcy
11-14-2008, 01:03 PM
Trainer out:(

Corey Feldman
11-14-2008, 01:04 PM
might just be a strategic trainer call

give him a bit of a rest he needs

Jaz
11-14-2008, 01:06 PM
Murray holds

didadida
11-14-2008, 01:07 PM
Trainer out for Roger. Kiss this match goodbye. :sad:

i dont care about the match i just want him to be ok :sad::angel:

Jaz
11-14-2008, 01:08 PM
30 all.

didadida
11-14-2008, 01:09 PM
if his back really hurts him he should withdraw

Jaz
11-14-2008, 01:09 PM
30-40 poor net player, poor serving.

trickcy
11-14-2008, 01:09 PM
Sigh :sad:

Jaz
11-14-2008, 01:09 PM
Murray breaks.

Herdwick
11-14-2008, 01:10 PM
Would rather he retired than do himself damage.

trickcy
11-14-2008, 01:11 PM
He sat down after the break :sad: Seems bad :(

Corey Feldman
11-14-2008, 01:12 PM
over folks :sad:

nothing could save him this week

since that back injury in Paris every f****n thing that could go against him has done

even the group draws here and Nadal WD'ing

just not meant to be for him this year - fate of some kind.

lets see how he comes back from this in 2009

trickcy
11-14-2008, 01:14 PM
More treatment :sad:

Jaz
11-14-2008, 01:15 PM
Murray holds, doesn't look good for Fed, looks uncomfortable visibly.

nobama
11-14-2008, 01:15 PM
More treatment on the back. I know he's never retired in a match before, but he probably needs to do so today. :sad:

Venle
11-14-2008, 01:17 PM
:smash:

Diprosalic
11-14-2008, 01:19 PM
he could do what ever he want now and people will complain

if he wins hes fakerer and if he withdraw/loses he faked out because he was losing.

Jaz
11-14-2008, 01:21 PM
going downhill rapidly folks.

didadida
11-14-2008, 01:21 PM
oh Roger please if you dony feel good just reitre and dont care about others

Billabong
11-14-2008, 01:21 PM
It's a shame because this match shows he definitely had the game to beat Murray, God why this injury had to haunt him again:sad:

Venle
11-14-2008, 01:22 PM
I'm only seeing the livescores, doesn't Roger look well? :awww:

Diprosalic
11-14-2008, 01:24 PM
I'm only seeing the livescores, doesn't Roger look well? :awww:

he took a medical treatment and was massaged after a game. his back is hurting

lsy
11-14-2008, 01:24 PM
Murray :mad: not that he shouldn't be going all out there, that's what he should do...but still :ras: :p

Thats exactly how much these guys want to beat Rogi...so much about bending over for Rogi.

Haven't seen him with trainer with such treatment before...why didn't he just ask for trainer when 3-5 down in TB :devil:

Rogi :hugs:

Jaz
11-14-2008, 01:25 PM
Federer breaks...

trickcy
11-14-2008, 01:26 PM
There's still life in the old dog says the commentator..
Well done, Roger :hug:

Herdwick
11-14-2008, 01:27 PM
:hatoff: for guts

Mr D - I hope you're watching this.

Venle
11-14-2008, 01:28 PM
he took a medical treatment and was massaged after a game. his back is hurting

Okay, thanks for the information :)

Poor Roger, don't play if your back hurts too much :awww: :hug:

Billabong
11-14-2008, 01:28 PM
Are you kidding me loll:p

But seriously Roger is the kind of guy who wouldn't continue to play if it felt it would be damageable for him, he's always smart about his decisions..

Jaz
11-14-2008, 01:29 PM
This will be a great victory if he wins this match.

Diprosalic
11-14-2008, 01:30 PM
if he wins and WO's the SF will simon advance?

lsy
11-14-2008, 01:30 PM
woohoo Rogi broke back but I doubt it will last long bf he gets broken again :tape:

gosh massage again...is this worth it Rogi? :sad:

Rogi and Shanghai...:o

Jaz
11-14-2008, 01:31 PM
Master at work :D

Rommella
11-14-2008, 01:32 PM
He's old school -- he believes in standing up and taking it like a man, which is way more than can be said for some of them young 'uns.

Jaz
11-14-2008, 01:34 PM
The touch shots are fun.

Venle
11-14-2008, 01:35 PM
I don't remember when Roger last time retired during a match, he's a battler :)

lsy
11-14-2008, 01:35 PM
Are you kidding me loll:p

But seriously Roger is the kind of guy who wouldn't continue to play if it felt it would be damageable for him, he's always smart about his decisions..

I think it will take quite a lot for him to just call it quit...2005 here in Shanghai as well he said he doesn't withdraw from matches once he walked on court...and he never did.

Can someone pls tell Murray...he's already in the sf :secret: :p Come on let it go :lol:

didadida
11-14-2008, 01:35 PM
he breakssssssssssssss
you are the master

Diprosalic
11-14-2008, 01:35 PM
I don't remember when Roger last time retired during a match, he's a battler :)

i think he never has

trickcy
11-14-2008, 01:36 PM
Roger at the net :worship:

Herdwick
11-14-2008, 01:36 PM
Wounded lion resurgent - yes!

Jaz
11-14-2008, 01:36 PM
Roger breaks!

didadida
11-14-2008, 01:37 PM
Roger you are the Spartan

trickcy
11-14-2008, 01:37 PM
Hold, Roger, hold :sobbing:

Venle
11-14-2008, 01:38 PM
Maybe Muzza just wants to be the other young gun who's beaten Roger 4 times :lol: :o

Break, yes!! :rocker2:

lsy
11-14-2008, 01:40 PM
Didn't think it's possible to have more respect for this man :hatoff:

I might be whining at Murray :lol: but I actually come to like him more from this match...it's not easy to be in his position either :shrug:

Venle
11-14-2008, 01:41 PM
i think he never has

:) Our Champion :hug:

Jaz
11-14-2008, 01:42 PM
40-40 on Rogers serve, Roger struggling with his second server if first doesnt go in.

Jaz
11-14-2008, 01:43 PM
Break point Murray.

didadida
11-14-2008, 01:45 PM
broken back

Jaz
11-14-2008, 01:46 PM
What a poor poor poor shot.

mangoes
11-14-2008, 01:47 PM
Good Golly...........this match is giving me a headache:o

Venle
11-14-2008, 01:48 PM
Man, this is the best news after Wimbledon :crying2: :shout:

Maybe I shouldn't give up the hope yet, it's not over before "Game, Set and Match.." :scared:

juninhOH
11-14-2008, 01:48 PM
gooooooooooood i'll have to leave in the middle of the game, nooo

can someone sms me the result?!

trickcy
11-14-2008, 01:50 PM
Damn :( Don't get broken..

lsy
11-14-2008, 01:51 PM
ok murray...enough is enough :( Save some energy go beat the guy you should beat in sf will you :ras:

oh well I'm afraid Rogi really needs a BIG miracle to pull a win here now :sad:

and this will be yet another "amazing but too depressing to re-watch it match" :o

Jaz
11-14-2008, 01:52 PM
Match points Murray.

Venle
11-14-2008, 01:52 PM
Match points :smash: :armed:

I can't watch

Daniel
11-14-2008, 01:54 PM
deuce

Venle
11-14-2008, 01:54 PM
Deuce :worship: :o

Daniel
11-14-2008, 01:54 PM
ADV Roger

Daniel
11-14-2008, 01:55 PM
deuce again.. go roger

Daniel
11-14-2008, 01:55 PM
adv roger again

Daniel
11-14-2008, 01:56 PM
deuce ...

lsy
11-14-2008, 01:57 PM
It's no wonder Rogi's the most popular player in Shanghai. He gave them everything.

COME ON ROGI!!!!!!

trickcy
11-14-2008, 01:57 PM
Hold, Roger, hold...
Murray go away :ras:

Daniel
11-14-2008, 01:57 PM
fuck
match point

Venle
11-14-2008, 01:57 PM
Match point Murray....

I'm gonna get sick :awww:

trickcy
11-14-2008, 01:58 PM
What a fighter :worship:

lsy
11-14-2008, 01:58 PM
omg Rogi...

ok now I'm officially upset with Andy :lol:

Daniel
11-14-2008, 01:58 PM
go roger

Venle
11-14-2008, 01:58 PM
Deuce :)

(Have I mentioned I don't like Murray? :ras:)

Daniel
11-14-2008, 02:00 PM
deuce??

trickcy
11-14-2008, 02:00 PM
5 MP saved :bowdown:

Daniel
11-14-2008, 02:01 PM
Vamos Roger

didadida
11-14-2008, 02:01 PM
adv Rogiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Daniel
11-14-2008, 02:02 PM
game point .,get it now

didadida
11-14-2008, 02:02 PM
deuce

Venle
11-14-2008, 02:03 PM
For crying out loud :o

Daniel
11-14-2008, 02:03 PM
oh no
deuce

Daniel
11-14-2008, 02:03 PM
wtf is he struggling to hold serve?

lsy
11-14-2008, 02:04 PM
Just get this done and over with now...I feel sick.

Daniel
11-14-2008, 02:04 PM
scoreboard is lytig to me

didadida
11-14-2008, 02:05 PM
plllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllz

Venle
11-14-2008, 02:05 PM
Allez Roger!!

That was the longest game ever :(
And now I have headache :awww:

Daniel
11-14-2008, 02:06 PM
5 all.

Vamos Roger. win this freaking match

Daniel
11-14-2008, 02:07 PM
Pleaseeeeeee
break him
brak him
break him

breakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk himmmmmmmmmmmmm

lsy
11-14-2008, 02:07 PM
wtf is he struggling to hold serve?

Isn't it obvious? :sad:

omg this is just painful to watch...

Jaz
11-14-2008, 02:07 PM
5-5 At Last!

Ten_Isse_Fan
11-14-2008, 02:07 PM
Come the Fed on

lsy
11-14-2008, 02:08 PM
No first serve at all for Rogi

Daniel
11-14-2008, 02:08 PM
3 mre points vamos Roger

Venle
11-14-2008, 02:09 PM
This is crazy

Murray is through whether he wins or loses

Daniel
11-14-2008, 02:09 PM
Roger serving to stay in the match

5-6


Roger, you better activate the first serve and aces in this game....

Jaz
11-14-2008, 02:10 PM
Murray holds.

didadida
11-14-2008, 02:10 PM
hold

Daniel
11-14-2008, 02:11 PM
15 love

Venle
11-14-2008, 02:11 PM
So we're heading for the final tie-break. Brilliant :rolleyes:

Daniel
11-14-2008, 02:11 PM
df
15 all

lsy
11-14-2008, 02:12 PM
I think the crowds going wild over Rogi might be one reason why Andy is determined to get this win NO MATTER WHAT :lol:

I really don't see Rogi winning this unless Andy had finally "come to his senses" ;) :ras:

Daniel
11-14-2008, 02:12 PM
15 40

Jaz
11-14-2008, 02:13 PM
Roger, throwing the match away.

Daniel
11-14-2008, 02:13 PM
fuck

its over

Ten_Isse_Fan
11-14-2008, 02:13 PM
Sorry guys but I watched only from the 10th game of the 3rd. What was the story of the match ? Did Fed have the break in the 2nd ?

Jaz
11-14-2008, 02:13 PM
Oh well. It was a decent performance.

Daniel
11-14-2008, 02:14 PM
last game went so fast.

Why Roger ??? :sad: :sad:

Enjoy your Xmas then :ras:

Swiss Mountain
11-14-2008, 02:16 PM
last game went so fast.

Why Roger ??? :sad: :sad:

Enjoy your Xmas then :ras:

Why??? because you need a clue?

he is 27, tired, sick and back injured.
Not happy with his perf?
pfff

nobama
11-14-2008, 02:18 PM
Jesus guys, Roger had the trainer out twice in this match. Clearly he was having back problems and it was affecting his serve. The fact that it took Murray 7-5 in the 3rd set after 3+hours to put Roger away is an amazing testiment to how hard Roger was trying out there today. Give the guy some credit. He could have lost set 2 and 3 easily, but he didn't.

Rest up for '09 Roger. And thank you for giving it your all today. :worship:

trickcy
11-14-2008, 02:19 PM
Sigh, well fought Roger :hug:
Murray :ras: Congrats though :ras:

Might not be the most appropriate thing to say, but I'm just so freaking tired of Federer losing close matches :awww:

Daniel
11-14-2008, 02:19 PM
Why??? because you need a clue?

he is 27, tired, sick and back injured.
Not happy with his perf?
pfff

:wavey:
he is young and got the talent to beat all those other clowns.

no, i am not happy with the result today.

Venle
11-14-2008, 02:20 PM
Damn it Andrew Murray :shout::shout::shout::shout:

Game.Set.Match..
11-14-2008, 02:20 PM
massive shame....he so could have won...but ye hes clearly injured and he still played unreal except maybe right at the end.
well done fed :hug: see you next year.

Rommella
11-14-2008, 02:21 PM
I love ya, Roger.

kissakiss
11-14-2008, 02:21 PM
Roger, I am so proud of you. A great fighter.

Noelman
11-14-2008, 02:22 PM
Though it still hurts...I just adore him more. What a fighter. :)

nobama
11-14-2008, 02:24 PM
People need to get a fucking clue. This wasn't a typical match that Roger choked. He had the trainer out twice for his back. Early in the 3rd set it looked like he didn't know if he'd be able to finish but he gave it his all and tried as hard as he could under the circumstances.

lsy
11-14-2008, 02:25 PM
Finally over.

Probably one of the top matches this year yet again...he didn't get that "W"

Crowds hardly cheer for Andy :tape:...kind of harsh after an amazing match. But "deservingly" so for his "cruelty" :ras: :p Now go win the tournament.

Rest well Rogi and come back strong next year.

Very proud of him :hug: :worship: I feel like he'd given us more this year than any of the past few years.

HE IS THE REAL NO.1 :p

didadida
11-14-2008, 02:25 PM
guys just give him a break,he has a stomach problem and has a back injury
it was great to watch him fought like that he desereve all the respect
well done Roger finally get well rest and prepare for 2009

lsy
11-14-2008, 02:27 PM
People need to get a fucking clue. This wasn't a typical match that Roger choked. He had the trainer out twice for his back. Early in the 3rd set it looked like he didn't know if he'd be able to finish but he gave it his all and tried as hard as he could under the circumstances.

Who's saying he choked?

Game.Set.Match..
11-14-2008, 02:30 PM
Who's saying he choked?

maybe in gm....but its just rubbish cause he played really really well. you could see his back hurt

Game.Set.Match..
11-14-2008, 02:32 PM
this match has also made me dislike murray even more. hes all big and confident when its going well but as soon as he begins to lose points the way he conducts himself on the court is just crap. hitting himself with the racquet? idiot.

Fed Express
11-14-2008, 02:35 PM
Excellent fight from Roger!

This loss doesnt mean anything to me. If you can fight this hard with a messed up back and stomach, you are a hero!

This gives me good hope for the AO!

Venle
11-14-2008, 02:40 PM
Well, now I'm over the anger phase :awww:

Roger is still our champ, what a battler today :worship:

Good luck for the next season :hug:

And congrats Murray :rolleyes:

NYCtennisfan
11-14-2008, 02:44 PM
I can't believe Federer almost won today. He had nothing on his first serve all match and yet somehow still won. Watching him serve early, I thought he would lose 3 and 1 or something like that.

All in all, I wished he hadn't played at all this week, but I think there are a lot of promising signs for 2009.

Herdwick
11-14-2008, 02:50 PM
Sorry to see Roger out - and for all you people here. So many others would have thrown in the towel today so :hatoff: ; really appreciated and a great match to watch. Not sure he'd have been able to do himself justice even if he'd managed to make the SF - that back clearly was giving him problems.

But hope he has a great break, gets fully fit and we see him right back in the mix in January.

Game.Set.Match..
11-14-2008, 02:50 PM
id very much like a simon davydenko final with......davydenko clinching it. cant be bothered to watch murray again and dont want djoker to get any more points than necessary.

rofe
11-14-2008, 02:54 PM
Rest up champ. Hope to see a fit and fired up Roger in 2009.

Lleyton_
11-14-2008, 02:59 PM
I'm proud of you Roger :worship:

But still :bigcry:

elessar
11-14-2008, 03:07 PM
Some real bad luck for Roger this season but at least, he now has time to finally take a long long rest.
I just hope he hasn't injured his back even worse.

I don't really know what to expect for 2009, I'm already dreading seeing him comeback to wimbledon :lol:

lsy
11-14-2008, 03:09 PM
maybe in gm....but its just rubbish cause he played really really well. you could see his back hurt

oh GM...won't expect anything else.

He did give his best even though he had no first serves at all. Its a good match in many ways regardless, if it was vs others he probably could have won but Andy is tough. Though under the circumstances, I have to say Rogi is way tougher ;)

Another great year Rogi...in a different way but just as great :)

Sunset of Age
11-14-2008, 03:21 PM
Well guys... I guess I saw it coming... :sad: :sad: :sad:

But I'll be positive here: WHAT AN AMAZING FIGHT FROM ROGER!!! (sorry for the shouting :)).

As sad as I am about his loss, I *never* expected him to come so close. He should be very, very proud of this performance - he gave it his all. It was obvious his back was hurting him bad, at the beginning of the 3rd set I really expected him to withdraw, especially after he immediately lost his game. In fact I was HOPING for him to do so, as he was so undoubtedly in pain. But NO -- not Roger! :worship: :worship: :worship:

Fighting till the inevitable end. Those last few games - he could barely move properly anymore. Yes, I was speechless to see him struggle on like that...

Roger is a CHAMP. A real one. I wish him a long and good rest, get that back fixed again - and YES I am anticipating a fully healed and back-to-form Roger in 2009 :hug: :hug: :hug: The Fighting Spirit is still there!

People need to get a fucking clue. This wasn't a typical match that Roger choked. He had the trainer out twice for his back. Early in the 3rd set it looked like he didn't know if he'd be able to finish but he gave it his all and tried as hard as he could under the circumstances.

Oh noes. Just had a look, yes, the GM :retard: :retard: :retard:s in full force again.... I'll avoid looking there for at least two days I think.

*Ljubica*
11-14-2008, 03:25 PM
For Roger and his fans :hug: I only saw the last set of the match because of work, but seemed that he never gave up the fight despite considerable pain/discomfort, and kudos to him. He is a great champion and to see him go out of the TMC at such an early stage seems wrong to me. As for GM - they are mostly a load of clueless idiots who like the sound of their own voices - don't get upset by anything they say :hug:

Sunset of Age
11-14-2008, 03:29 PM
For Roger and his fans :hug: I only saw the last set of the match because of work, but seemed that he never gave up the fight despite considerable pain/discomfort, and kudos to him. He is a great champion and to see him go out of the TMC at such an early stage seems wrong to me.

Thank you so much for your kind words again Rose. Yes, he's a TRUE champion, and he very much showed WHY today - not just his god-gifted talent, but also his mentality - Fighting till the end.

Those who claim that he's not a fighter should go out and wash their vitriolic mouths with sink plunger cleaner (and I'm being friendly here... :ras:)

As for GM - they are mostly a load of clueless idiots who like the sound of their own voices - don't get upset by anything they say :hug:

What else is new eh. :rolleyes:

Diprosalic
11-14-2008, 03:31 PM
im so looking forward to AO now. with much rest and now more bad luck hes still the guy to beat

nobama
11-14-2008, 03:43 PM
One thing about this match, before Roger's back started giving him problems I though he was playing well and I think had his back not acted up he might have won in straights. There were a couple :eek: in this match that told me Roger's still got. Not on a consistent basis any more, but I still think he can do damage at the major events next year assuming he's healthy again.

Minnie
11-14-2008, 03:45 PM
Hi all! I'm not too downhearted about this loss ... even though, I'm not entirely convinced that Roger would have beaten Andy Murray even if his back hadn't given out. Unlike the blind fans on RF.com, I think Murray is a worthy opponent for Roger. Even before the trainer came on, I sensed that after losing the 2nd set, Roger would lose the match. When the trainer came on, I knew it, so was able to watch the 3rd set without having to down 3 glasses of orange squash because of my dry mouth!

There was a moment when he sat down at one end of the court, when I thought he was going to pull out. Then he just went for it ... but you have to wonder that if the miracle had happened, how on earth would he have played tomorrow? What an incredible fight by Roger in that 3rd set - it made me so proud to be a fan of his.

I hope, on reflection, he realises that his esteem has shot even higher by fighting through the pain he must have been in.

I still have an interest in the TMC of course ... ;)

Rita
11-14-2008, 03:45 PM
some words from rog

"I don't quit once I step on court. Guess you got to drill me one in the eye, then maybe. But otherwise I don't quit,"said Federer. "My body was hurting. Normally the best of three sets is peanuts and it's a shame I couldn't handle it today."

Minnie
11-14-2008, 03:50 PM
some words from rog

"I don't quit once I step on court. Guess you got to drill me one in the eye, then maybe. But otherwise I don't quit,"said Federer. "My body was hurting. Normally the best of three sets is peanuts and it's a shame I couldn't handle it today."

Thanks Rita ... you gotta love this guy's humour

Rita
11-14-2008, 03:51 PM
and more
“I almost made a miracle happen, you know,” Federer said. “I can’t believe how close I got, to be honest. So I’m actually very happy.”

“It’s been a good year, you know,” Federer said. “Tough to start off with. Tough to end. But I think it gives me the opportunity to start over all new again next year.”

Sunset of Age
11-14-2008, 04:02 PM
One thing about this match, before Roger's back started giving him problems I though he was playing well and I think had his back not acted up he might have won in straights. There were a couple :eek: in this match that told me Roger's still got. Not on a consistent basis any more, but I still think he can do damage at the major events next year assuming he's healthy again.

Oh, absolutely! He was playing close to his best during that first set - intelligent play, his shots were great, everything looked really fine. If he gets that back fixed and has a good rest (DUMP THE EXHOs, Roger! :(), he'll be back-on-force in 2009. Not as consistent as he once was, that seems impossible to me, but I'm confident he'll return to do damage in the biggies. :yeah:

and more
“I almost made a miracle happen, you know,” Federer said. “I can’t believe how close I got, to be honest. So I’m actually very happy.”

“It’s been a good year, you know,” Federer said. “Tough to start off with. Tough to end. But I think it gives me the opportunity to start over all new again next year.”

Glad to hear he's so positive! Yep - if anything, he should be PROUD of his performance today. He nearly got the miracle done. Nearly. Next time he WILL get it done.

trickcy
11-14-2008, 04:06 PM
The press conference is out

http://www.atpmastersseries.tv/page/Shanghai/Interviews/0,,11444~1454802,00.html

Roger :hug: Rest up and forget those :mad: :mad: exhos..

Off topic : GM :retard: :retard: :retard:

wackykid
11-14-2008, 04:24 PM
#2 and #3 DOES make a difference, but indeed - not much.
#2 can only meet #1 in the final - with being #3 you may have to play both #1 and #2. Not that it will make much difference at the AO, as we know the current #1 isn't actually stellar on that surface, but still. Ah, the biggest problem Roger can face seems to be the current #4 - who won't stay #4 for long if he goes on like he's been doing the past couple of weeks.
Whether Roger will be able to reclaim the #1 position... hmmm. It will depend more on Rafa's form in early 2009 than on his I think.

No the main reason why I want him to stay #2 is because I don't want him to have major another dissappointment to deal with, which would surely be the case if he'd slide to #3 early next year...

actually my point being... to be no.1... doesn't matter whether u meet the #1 and #2 at the same time... if you can't beat either... you won't be #1... now there are a whole bunch of ppl whom federer can't consistently beat...

i'm sad that federer lost again and there goes more points... i couldn't bear to watch the match... i guess age could be catching on federer already... just hope that he can win a couple more slams and beat that 14 number... the no.1 is for the new generation to fight out...


regards,
wacky

Sunset of Age
11-14-2008, 04:30 PM
i'm sad that federer lost again and there goes more points... i couldn't bear to watch the match... i guess age could be catching on federer already... just hope that he can win a couple more slams and beat that 14 number... the no.1 is for the new generation to fight out...


If you had watched the match, you would've seen that Roger's age had nothing to do with it. He was playing at a very fine level in the first set and I even think he had a good chance to win the match in two if not for his aching back, which started to trouble him at the end of the second set.

You might argue that his back troubles are a sign of him aging. Well that isn't true either IMHO - he's had those troubles all during his career. He just had the bad luck of getting it again right during this tournament.

What I did see, and what I think is a very positive sign indeed, is that Roger is still very hungry for more victories and titles - he truly fought like a lion today. This guy isn't going to pull a Borg - unless he doesn't recover from his current back troubles, which May God Forbid!

Corey Feldman
11-14-2008, 04:40 PM
:bigcry: just nothing left to say anymore

why cant he stay fit and healthy anymore, why cant he hold onto breaks, why cant he take BPS and GPS more often than he loses them, why cant he win tight matches anymore

i just dont get it all, i'm happy the season is over but the great work he put in to get rewards in winning Olmypics/US Open are all gone and he seems to be going away again :sad:

i dont know what to expect from him in the future but i am far from excited about his 2009 as i felt after the US Open

i just feel bad for Rog, his body has let him down all the way through this year and at 27 ... its hardly promising for the future.

Corey Feldman
11-14-2008, 04:42 PM
i'm not gonna sit and be one who says he'll have his 2 month off season and come back and everything will be fine & dandy

to me he has problems deeper than just the injuries and illnesses .. and there is hardly ever a match that passes thesedays where they dont show up at some stage

Sunset of Age
11-14-2008, 04:44 PM
i just feel bad for Rog, his body has let him down all the way through this year and at 27 ... its hardly promising for the future.

Mikey... :hug:. Look at it at the positive way: ANY OTHER player would've given up halfway this match, but not Roger - still has the hunger and spirit to FIGHT.

And with him getting sick and injured this year - all players go through such phases. You should rather feel happy that he's managed to stay out of physical trouble such a very long time, at least during tournaments. Read Rene Stauffer's book and you'll find out that his back has always been troubling him, nothing new. ;)

wackykid
11-14-2008, 04:44 PM
If you had watched the match, you would've seen that Roger's age had nothing to do with it. He was playing at a very fine level in the first set and I even think he had a good chance to win the match in two if not for his aching back, which started to trouble him at the end of the second set.

You might argue that his back troubles are a sign of him aging. Well that isn't true either IMHO - he's had those troubles all during his career. He just had the bad luck of getting it again right during this tournament.

What I did see, and what I think is a very positive sign indeed, is that Roger is still very hungry for more victories and titles - he truly fought like a lion today. This guy isn't going to pull a Borg - unless he doesn't recover from his current back troubles, which May God Forbid!

isn't health associated with age? with age... your body recovers slower from illnesses or injuries... your body also takes a greater toll when you have an illness or injury and it affects your performance... i'm sure he still have his skills... but all those injuries/illnesses apparently are starting to affect him more now than in the past... that's why i say that signs of age are catching up with him...

though i too believe he isn't going to pull a borg and is going to recover with his back problem... but we are likely to see more of such health problems affecting him more... and so i think it will be a tall order for him to consistently win titles in future... moreover the new generation is improving and becoming more consistent... so i will be happy if roger can just pull in a few slams to his collection before he retires...


regards,
wacky

nobama
11-14-2008, 04:44 PM
some words from rog

"I don't quit once I step on court. Guess you got to drill me one in the eye, then maybe. But otherwise I don't quit,"said Federer. "My body was hurting. Normally the best of three sets is peanuts and it's a shame I couldn't handle it today."This is what I love about Roger. It was clear to anyone who didn't have blinders on that he was hurting and it got progressively worse as the match went on (especially the serve). But he stuck it out anyway. I know, I know he's not the only player to ever do such a thing but it still impresses me and shows that he does care, a lot.

Corey Feldman
11-14-2008, 04:53 PM
i know he fought like hell today Karin, and that was great

but here is a scenario i am talking about: gets to 4*-3 and 40-15 in the third set and then what ? f*****g woeful easy errors of THE FOREHAND, yes what else

and from Deuce you knew he'd get punished

that little scenario in that game was not caused by his back IMO

how many f'en times has he blown breaks ??? its getting beyond a joke, its the reason he's out on his arse here anyway - because of that match v Simon

Game.Set.Match..
11-14-2008, 04:57 PM
i still think he was impressive today. this was a good tennis match with very little between them. in the end the result isnt what i wanted but i really do think watching today hes gonna be great next year...he just needs a break. he'll be back :) i have faith :)

nobama
11-14-2008, 04:59 PM
i know he fought like hell today Karin, and that was great

but here is a scenario i am talking about: gets to 4*-3 and 40-15 in the third set and then what ? f*****g woeful easy errors of THE FOREHAND, yes what else

and from Deuce you knew he'd get punished

that little scenario in that game was not caused by his back IMO

how many f'en times has he blown breaks ??? its getting beyond a joke, its the reason he's out on his arse here anyway - because of that match v SimonI don't think anyone disagrees that his problems aren't all because of a bad back or being sick. But I'd like to wait until next year when hopefully he'll start the year with no phyiscal problems to really judge. This was a very up and down year and to expect Roger to pull it all together in Shanghai is expecting a little too much IMO. I'm not sure what all can be done in a little over a month, but what I saw in the 1st set today tells me that the game is still there. With a fresh body and mind next year who knows what will happen.

Sunset of Age
11-14-2008, 05:01 PM
isn't health associated with age?

It is, to a certain extent. BUT - in Roger's case we should not forget that he 1) was a late bloomer, and 2) his style of playing, being very economical, doesn't ask as much from his body as that of certain other players (who shall remain unnamed, here ;)). So, it's too easy to conclude, 27 = OLD. In his case this just isn't true. He'll have quite a few good years ahead of him, if - IF - his spirit to continue the fight remains intact. IMHO, that is, of course. :)

though i too believe he isn't going to pull a borg and is going to recover with his back problem... but we are likely to see more of such health problems affecting him more... and so i think it will be a tall order for him to consistently win titles in future... moreover the new generation is improving and becoming more consistent... so i will be happy if roger can just pull in a few slams to his collection before he retires...

It would be highly unrealistic to expect him to keep on consistenly winning titles, so I don't do that. People appear to think that his 2004 - 2007 has been some kind of 'normal' - well NO, it is in fact unmatched in the entire history of tennis! So anyone expecting him to keep on doing that, is either wearing pink glasses (like, apparently, some folks on rf.com :help:) or has just started to watch tennis...

I agree with you though - if only he manages to get TWO more GSs (preferably one at RG... but that may well not happen with Rafa around), that would be awesome. Don't know why, but I think it will indeed happen. :)

nobama
11-14-2008, 05:03 PM
If anything Mikey, this is a match Murray probably should have won in 2 easy sets. I know he was knackered too so it wasn't the best display from him. But anyone who's a fan of Murray should be po'd that he spent so much time on court today. I can see Davydenko taking him out tomorrow. I doubt Simon will be able to take out Djoker, but I'd love it if the final was Davydenko/Simon. :D

Corey Feldman
11-14-2008, 05:09 PM
i'm disgusted with Andy today in every way possible

i dont think he shoulda won in 2 sets coz Fed deserved the first, but what a f'en bonehead to blow 2nd set from 5-2 (obviously still won it 7-6 ) then allow himself to run miles in the third when he just didnt need it

pathetic f'en draw as well... unreal how easy Djokovic has got it in this tournament

but i did say Nole would do 1 last big thing this season - when everyone else was writing him off

its the law of averages

Minnie
11-14-2008, 05:09 PM
Er ,,, yes Jen (hope I can call you by your name now).. I am a bit p@@d that Andy had to spend so much time defeating Roger! Because he was my 2nd choice for the TMC title and I want him to get to the final against Joker and .... well, you know the rest!

But having to spend that much time to beat an injured Roger only shows what a lionheart Roger truly is ... admiration seems to go up for him more for these kind of losses than wins ;) Must admit my eyes filled with tears when I saw him flat out on the floor having work done on his back .... and hearing him say after the match that he had to adjust his serving in the 3rd set which then affected the rest of his game....

juninhOH
11-14-2008, 05:10 PM
Guys, you cant expect Roger to play 20 tournaments a year until he is 32. He is going to slow down each time more. He just showed he can still win the slams (god he reached 3 finals this year!). I'm sure next year is going to be similar (sadly) to this one, but hey, this year was still a pretty good year. The "problem" is that 2004-2007 were just UNREAL. Look, Nadal won 2 slams and the olympics and he says his year was 'unbelievable'.

Let's just support Federer and hope he is rid of this injurees. I'm sure we will see him fighting to get the title again. And hey, Roger won't stop in time. He knows he will have to handle the newcomers, he is preparing for them. :)

You should be happy to see Roger play such a tight and close match against the best hardcourt player of this 2nd semester. GO ROGER!

Game.Set.Match..
11-14-2008, 05:10 PM
I'd love it if the final was Davydenko/Simon. :D

me too!

Sunset of Age
11-14-2008, 05:12 PM
I can see Davydenko taking him out tomorrow. I doubt Simon will be able to take out Djoker, but I'd love it if the final was Davydenko/Simon. :D

My cash is already on Denko. ;)

And Mikey... :hug: :hug: :hug: - you are in desperate need of more Knut!

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/03/24/knut_main_wideweb__470x306,2.jpg

nobama
11-14-2008, 05:14 PM
i'm disgusted with Andy today in every way possible

i dont think he shoulda won in 2 sets coz Fed deserved the first, but what a f'en bonehead to blow 2nd set from 5-2 (obviously still won it 7-6 ) then allow himself to run miles in the third when he just didnt need it

pathetic f'en draw as well... unreal how easy Djokovic has got it in this tournament

but i did say Nole would do 1 last big thing this season - when everyone else was writing him off

its the law of averagesDjerk certainly is a lucky SOB that's for sure. :rolleyes:

juninhOH
11-14-2008, 05:14 PM
BTW one of the things I've learned is that once one player (of any sport) does really good during a time, we get the feeling that he will do it for a long long time, when it's not the truth. When Nole won the AO earlier this year and right after he won the Masters, we all thought he was going to win a lot during the whole year. Look at what happened.

The same with Nadal, after the Olympics we were like 'holy shit what if Nadal wins the USO again?!'. Hell, he never reached a final after the Olympics. Nalbandian ended last year as the favorite for the AO, I don't need to remind you of what happened.

The same will happen to Andy. Can he win the AO? Obviously, he definitely has the game. BUT the opposite can also happen. He can face one inspired player and be eliminated really quickly, while Fed can move on, move on, move on and clich the title. Let's just wait and have a positive attitude, just like 'our' player.

nobama
11-14-2008, 05:15 PM
Er ,,, yes Jen (hope I can call you by your name now).. I am a bit p@@d that Andy had to spend so much time defeating Roger! Because he was my 2nd choice for the TMC title and I want him to get to the final against Joker and .... well, you know the rest!

But having to spend that much time to beat an injured Roger only shows what a lionheart Roger truly is ... admiration seems to go up for him more for these kind of losses than wins ;) Must admit my eyes filled with tears when I saw him flat out on the floor having work done on his back .... and hearing him say after the match that he had to adjust his serving in the 3rd set which then affected the rest of his game....
When I saw him having his back worked on in the 2nd set I thought this might be the first match where he has to retire. Thought it again in the 3rd when in between games he went and sat down back by the ball kids. Erie how much it reminded me of Agassi. :eek:

Eden
11-14-2008, 05:16 PM
This is what I posted on GM:


Wasn't able to follow the match live, only read the result at work.

First of congratulations to Andy for the victory :yeah: Hopefully he won't regret it that he spend so much time on court today.

Sorry to hear that Roger was troubled by his health. Amazing that he was able to give Andy such a close match nevertheless.

To those who claim he is a faker and liar: Where have you been when he lost matches already in the past? How often did he made an injury responsible for a loss?

It's sad to see how much hate Roger receives even in a year which didn't went well for him, but maybe some of those people who like to bash him will realise one day what he did for tennis and why other players on the tour respect him.

Roger, thanks for a great season and far more important for showing that you aren't just a champion when things work well but also in tough times :) Enjoy your vacations, recover from this demanding season and then come back healthy in 2009 :)

A big :hug: to Roger and of course to everyone in here. It's been a very intense year for Roger and us.

I have never been prouder of him as this season :) Thanks for your fighting spirit, fair play, high quality performances which we got to see (against Nalbandian in Monte Carlo for example and of course against Djokovic and Murray at the US Open) and for just being a real champion on and off the court :hatoff:

juninhOH
11-14-2008, 05:16 PM
BTW. No matter the result of the match today, Roger wouldn't be able to win the MC anyway. He would be crushed tomorrow, let's be realistic.

Game.Set.Match..
11-14-2008, 05:18 PM
also what fed has made sure of today is that he is in no way an opponent murray can start to think....o hes not hard to beat...so mentally murray won but he was just first across the finish line...much better than had he won in 2 easy sets

Sunset of Age
11-14-2008, 05:18 PM
When I saw him having his back worked on in the 2nd set I thought this might be the first match where he has to retire. Thought it again in the 3rd when in between games he went and sat down back by the ball kids. Erie how much it reminded me of Agassi. :eek:

Must say that this was the first match ever from Roger where I actually wanted him to retire. To see him lying there on the ground, getting treatment... horrible.

Eden
11-14-2008, 05:20 PM
Djerk certainly is a lucky SOB that's for sure. :rolleyes:

Why is Djokovic lucky? He won a close match against Davydenko, lost to Tsonga and we will just have to wait and see how he will play against Simon.
When he is going to win the tournament he would deserve it as much as every player who wins it, no matter if we like the player or not.

Sunset of Age
11-14-2008, 05:24 PM
Why is Djokovic lucky? He won a close match against Davydenko, lost to Tsonga and we will just have to wait and see how he will play against Simon.
When he is going to win the tournament he would deserve it as much as every player who wins it, no matter if we like the player or not.

:yeah: - leave the whining about draws to the whiners on this forum. Plenty of them around as you know. Whoever wins a tournament DESERVES it.

BTW... I don't see Djoko winning it. ;)

Corey Feldman
11-14-2008, 05:28 PM
shut the fuck up Karin :rolleyes:

i'll tell you why he was lucky - because without Nadal's WD... he might have had him, Fed or Murray in his group and got none

and in his match v Davy - Davy was the better player and choked

Sunset of Age
11-14-2008, 05:31 PM
shut the fuck up Karin :rolleyes:

Don't see why I deserve to be addressed by you this way, Mikey.

i'll tell you why he was lucky - because without Nadal's WD... he might have had him, Fed or Murray in his group and got none

and in his match v Davy - Davy was the better player and choked

Might, if, and when, don't count in sports...

Corey Feldman
11-14-2008, 05:34 PM
dont talk to me anymore

Minnie
11-14-2008, 05:34 PM
Noooo .. my cash is on Jock Boy ... if I had any cash that is ... so I'll just say my heart's on Jock Boy ... er, well, that might be going a bit far ... my heart belongs to Roger of course!

Minnie
11-14-2008, 05:39 PM
When I saw him having his back worked on in the 2nd set I thought this might be the first match where he has to retire. Thought it again in the 3rd when in between games he went and sat down back by the ball kids. Erie how much it reminded me of Agassi. :eek:

You're right there because I could hear Roger groaning with pain when he hit some shots ... and I remember Andre doing that in the USO 06. I hope Roger's back doesn't come back to become a recurrent prob in the future ... funny things backs ... except a bad back ain't no fun!

Game.Set.Match..
11-14-2008, 05:40 PM
guys...chill a little...at the end of the day this is just a game...

nobama
11-14-2008, 05:42 PM
Why is Djokovic lucky? He won a close match against Davydenko, lost to Tsonga and we will just have to wait and see how he will play against Simon.
When he is going to win the tournament he would deserve it as much as every player who wins it, no matter if we like the player or not.Not having to play Roger or Murray until the final. Of course that's out of his control, but still lucky. Of course my bias against him has nothing to do with that comment. :p

Sunset of Age
11-14-2008, 05:42 PM
You're right there because I could hear Roger groaning with pain when he hit some shots ... and I remember Andre doing that in the USO 06. I hope Roger's back doesn't come back to become a recurrent prob in the future ... funny things backs ... except a bad back ain't no fun!

Yes, I noticed Roger becoming a lot more vocal during his shots in that third set. As he barely ever does so, I thought it to be a sign of him being in pain as well. Oh damn... :(

nobama
11-14-2008, 05:44 PM
Must say that this was the first match ever from Roger where I actually wanted him to retire. To see him lying there on the ground, getting treatment... horrible.When was the last time Roger received treatment on court (besides for his feet)? 2005 AO SF?

Sunset of Age
11-14-2008, 05:45 PM
Not having to play Roger or Murray until the final. Of course that's out of his control, but still lucky. Of course my bias against him has nothing to do with that comment. :p

My cash is on Simon to do his job tomorrow. :armed:
That will end his luck! :p

Sunset of Age
11-14-2008, 05:45 PM
When was the last time Roger received treatment on court (besides for his feet)? 2005 AO SF?

As far as I remember, AO 2005 semi, against Safin, wasn't it?

nobama
11-14-2008, 05:52 PM
Apparently Roger said after the match because of his back he couldn't use the kick serve at all today.

Rita
11-14-2008, 05:54 PM
mickey and Karin :hearts:

Eden
11-14-2008, 06:00 PM
i'll tell you why he was lucky - because without Nadal's WD... he might have had him, Fed or Murray in his group and got none

But he got Tsonga, who beat him in their last 2 matches, Davydenko, who won their only match so far. Nadal didn't played convincingly since becoming #1 and we don't know how a match between them would have went. Beside this Roger was vulnerable this week, so all is just speculation how it would have went when the group would have been different.


and in his match v Davy - Davy was the better player and choked

Sounds similiar as the Federer-Simon match, hmm? ;)

Not having to play Roger or Murray until the final. Of course that's out of his control, but still lucky.

As I said before we don't know how a match between Roger and Novak would have went. I surely wouldn't have liked to see Novak in Roger's draw. Roger wasn't really blessed to get in a group with Murray and Simon, but we probably wouldn't have talked about the groups at all if Roger had beaten Simon on Monday.

Of course my bias against him has nothing to do with that comment. :p

I'm sure you would have also said nothing when the lucky player would have been Nadal :p :hug:

I'm not a fan of Djokovic either, but although he didn't played that well during the last months we shouldn't forget his potential. His main advantage regarding the ranking is that he doesn't have to defend any points from Shanghai from last year.

Minnie
11-14-2008, 06:02 PM
Apparently Roger said after the match because of his back he couldn't use the kick serve at all today.

That's what I meant when I said in my earlier post that Roger had to adjust his serve ... which meant he couldn't play the follow-through game that he wanted or needed to.

Roger is playing a doubles with Borg/Mac/Blake on Tuesday - he'd better let his doubles partner do all the running ... come on Bjorn, help the young guy out!

Eden
11-14-2008, 06:02 PM
mickey and Karin :hearts:

We all need some polar bears today to feel better :angel:

http://www.luxist.de/luxist/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/eisbaeren.jpg

Sunset of Age
11-14-2008, 06:10 PM
We all need some polar bears today to feel better :angel:

http://www.luxist.de/luxist/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/eisbaeren.jpg

:hearts: so lovely!

Yeah, that exho... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Noelman
11-14-2008, 06:21 PM
Can't believe he still have two showdowns to play.
Come on Roger finish them quick and take REST. :o

Minnie
11-14-2008, 06:24 PM
Playing doubles isn't quite the same, Karin, as playing a Pete Sampras who is determined to beat Roger at any cost. It might be just the kind of light relief Roger needs... wish I could see it as I'm such a huge Borg fan still.

trickcy
11-14-2008, 06:26 PM
Must say that this was the first match ever from Roger where I actually wanted him to retire. To see him lying there on the ground, getting treatment... horrible.
Same here.. It was quite sad to see him like that :sad:

You're right there because I could hear Roger groaning with pain when he hit some shots ... and I remember Andre doing that in the USO 06. I hope Roger's back doesn't come back to become a recurrent prob in the future ... funny things backs ... except a bad back ain't no fun!

Yes, I noticed Roger becoming a lot more vocal during his shots in that third set. As he barely ever does so, I thought it to be a sign of him being in pain as well. Oh damn... :(

Ya.. Especially when he was trying to get huge first serves in or trying to hit aggressive huge FHs, it did sound like he was atleast exerting himself a lot, if not in pain..




http://www.luxist.de/luxist/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/eisbaeren.jpg

:inlove: :inlove:

Sunset of Age
11-14-2008, 06:37 PM
Playing doubles isn't quite the same, Karin, as playing a Pete Sampras who is determined to beat Roger at any cost. It might be just the kind of light relief Roger needs... wish I could see it as I'm such a huge Borg fan still.

That's true - I hope he'll take it easy (no more straining of that sore back, Rodge!) and just enjoy himself for a bit out there. Hopefully there will be a livestream available somewhere! :D

But after this, my mantra will be: NO MORE EXHO's, Roger!

Eden
11-14-2008, 06:45 PM
You can listen to Roger's pressconference here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/7730231.stm



Roger's Master's TV Interview can be seen here:

http://www.atpmastersseries.tv/page/Shanghai/Interviews/0,,11444~1454802,00.html

Minnie
11-14-2008, 06:50 PM
Roger will be the first player to win the TMC at the O2 in London... and I will be there even if I'm hanging off the rafters!

juninhOH
11-14-2008, 08:10 PM
what was corey_feldman nickname before? I remember his signature, but no his nickname

Corey Feldman
11-14-2008, 08:31 PM
^^

Escude

Puschkin
11-14-2008, 09:05 PM
Must say that this was the first match ever from Roger where I actually wanted him to retire. To see him lying there on the ground, getting treatment... horrible.

I would have preferred him not to play at all. As I said earlier, I think it is not wise to play through illness and/or injury, and I see nothing heroic in it. So no, I don't agree with those who praise him for that.

As for the Master's Cup: call me crazy, but I think Davydenko might win it.

Corey Feldman
11-14-2008, 09:28 PM
listening to that post match interview didnt sound good, his pause in between some of the things he was saying had deep sighs and kind of shaky ... you can tell he was deeply gutted by this loss today

what he would never admit - but deep down must know - is these players like Nadal, Murray, Nole and Simon are not going anywhere.. and more of them are coming

they just have games that are killing his and he knows it.

Lleyton_
11-14-2008, 09:50 PM
listening to that post match interview didnt sound good, his pause in between some of the things he was saying had deep sighs and kind of shaky ... you can tell he was deeply gutted by this loss today

what he would never admit - but deep down must know - is these players like Nadal, Murray, Nole and Simon are not going anywhere.. and more of them are coming

they just have games that are killing his and he knows it.

Nole? :spit: He is 2-7 vs Roger. And Simon won't stop Roger from winning majors. He is irrelevant. It's like saying Canas will stop Federer forever :lol: Don't worry about Simon.

The real threats are Murray and Nadal. Muzza has never beaten Roger in a final. So again, as always, Nadal is the biggest threat. But I believe 2009 will be tougher for him than it will be for Roger.

Corey Feldman
11-14-2008, 09:53 PM
there will always be a Tipsarevic, Simon, Canas waiting for him in an early round or 2 next season

who knows, maybe he'll be ok and learn how to hold a f'en break of serve against them

Game.Set.Match..
11-14-2008, 09:57 PM
Roger will be the first player to win the TMC at the O2 in London... and I will be there even if I'm hanging off the rafters!

ill be right there with you! wonder what the age limit would be to be a ball girl.....

Lleyton_
11-14-2008, 10:02 PM
there will always be a Tipsarevic, Simon, Canas waiting for him in an early round or 2 next season

who knows, maybe he'll be ok and learn how to hold a f'en break of serve against them

Roger didn't lose to Tipsarevic. He can't play Simon in the early rounds since Simon is a top 10 player now and Canas is no more a threat to anybody ;)

Minnie
11-14-2008, 10:20 PM
ill be right there with you! wonder what the age limit would be to be a ball girl.....


:lol::lol: I do think there is an "age transition" going on ... its the nature of the game today sadly .... trouble is, this "age transition" is beginning to happen at a younger + younger age. No wonder Roger said he hoped other players like Hewitt would still stick around to keep him company :rolleyes:

Game.Set.Match..
11-14-2008, 10:27 PM
i cant wait to see what people start saying when he turns.........TWENTY EIGHT.
to put it into perspective...roger is younger than the 'school kids' from the o.c. :lol:

juninhOH
11-14-2008, 10:30 PM
damn 28 looks really old
and he was just 26 at the AO, almost a kid

nobama
11-14-2008, 10:36 PM
Hey CF you got Murray now so quit bitching about Roger. :p

I hope he comes back at AO and makes you eat your pessimistc words. :ras:

FedFan_2007
11-14-2008, 10:39 PM
Hey Mellow check out my new thread about scheduling.

NYCtennisfan
11-14-2008, 10:52 PM
We have to take a look at Federer's game as a whole since the USO. In my opinion, it was really, really good. His slice had more sting, there were a couple of matches where his BH was really good (against Nalbandian in Basel it was really, really good), matches where he shoved his opponent around with the FH, wonderful movement....

I think 2009 will be a good year. He is still going to be super tough to beat in a best of 5 sets match off of clay and even on clay against anyone other than Nadal.

Minnie
11-14-2008, 11:25 PM
I never said that 27/8 was old .. but there is no substitute for real youth ... 19/20/21/22 ... Roger was absolutely fearless when he was 21/22 ... as you get older, things mean more to you, no matter what you do. As you get older, you realise what you have and how much you want to hold on to it ... that inhibits you ... I don't care what you do.

Game.Set.Match..
11-14-2008, 11:34 PM
thats the annoying thing about sports....you are basically a child at your peak and will spend most of your life looking back....
but still its pretty good while it lasts!

nobama
11-15-2008, 12:02 AM
This picture says it all about the match today:

http://photos.dppi.net/palms/zimagettes/Omnisport/TENNIS/TENNIS_2008/MASTERS_2008/ATP_MASTERS_2008/FEDERER_20081114_25_JPG/600.jpg

nobama
11-15-2008, 12:05 AM
This one too...

http://i33.tinypic.com/eahzwl.jpg

Corey Feldman
11-15-2008, 12:07 AM
Hey CF you got Murray now so quit bitching about Roger. :p

I hope he comes back at AO and makes you eat your pessimistc words. :ras:I want Fed back up to speed, i dont like see'ing him go through times like this

a wreck, weak, playing poorly, mentally not coming through in the clutch ... all the time , serving problems

he won 1 of the big 15 events this year (US Open, ok good enough to still make it a great year) but... still not a year it should be for how good he is, lets be honest.

the injuries and illness' played some part

lunahielo
11-15-2008, 12:28 AM
He's still my hero.
The way he played *hurt* today~~~was unreal. (maybe it was unwise for his body, but so, so lovely spirited)I am proud of him and proud to be a staunch fan~~forever..No matter what!

Heal now.
Heal and rest.

Corey Feldman
11-15-2008, 12:30 AM
he'll have a good holiday, and then Pagannini will go to work :yeah:

nobama
11-15-2008, 12:49 AM
the injuries and illness' played some partthey played a big part, IMO. Let's wait and see what happens next year. Quite honestly if he's healthy I see him as a favorite for AO. Murray obviously the biggest. But Roger's right up there IMO.

Corey Feldman
11-15-2008, 12:52 AM
thing i have thought about is

when he wins his 14th Slam... fate will have happen in a symbolic place - surely RG or Wimbledon (maybe in that order to equal and break it) .. like how Pete equalled and broke Emerson's records both at Wimbledon

AO just doesnt seem special enuff for him to equal it there, i'm afraid to say :o

Rommella
11-15-2008, 04:21 AM
thing i have thought about is

when he wins his 14th Slam... fate will have happen in a symbolic place - surely RG or Wimbledon (maybe in that order to equal and break it) .. like how Pete equalled and broke Emerson's records both at Wimbledon

AO just doesnt seem special enuff for him to equal it there, i'm afraid to say :o

To me, AO would still be a special place. I can't forget that ceremony with Rocket Rod -- a legend looking at a legend-in-the-making, a rite of passage.

clever1980
11-15-2008, 04:37 AM
Roger :sad::sad::sad::sad::sad:

trickcy
11-15-2008, 04:48 AM
thing i have thought about is

when he wins his 14th Slam... fate will have happen in a symbolic place - surely RG or Wimbledon (maybe in that order to equal and break it) .. like how Pete equalled and broke Emerson's records both at Wimbledon

AO just doesnt seem special enuff for him to equal it there, i'm afraid to say :o

AO seems special enough to me :shrug: The whole ceremony thing with Rod Laver, Peter Carter is from there, and all that.. Besides, it's the earliest :angel:

If however, he fins RG (yeah, right) or Wimbledon to equal and/or break it, I'll be absolutely over the moon..

All I wish is that 2009 is a better year than this.. Yes, USO and OG are great, but I mean more along the lines of the injuries, illness and all that..

Sunset of Age
11-15-2008, 05:03 AM
I would have preferred him not to play at all. As I said earlier, I think it is not wise to play through illness and/or injury, and I see nothing heroic in it. So no, I don't agree with those who praise him for that.

In hindsight, I think he should never have played Paris, to begin with!
Still I praise him - because if anything I think Roger showed today WHY he is such a great champion - he fights on, no matter what!

I witnessed him sitting down in that third set, and all I could think of, is "what the heck, love, just retire, and don't further damage that back of yours!"

But he didn't and suddenly I realized once again - this fellow is made of the stuff that true champions are made of... yes, I am in awe. :worship: :worship: :worship:
He must have realized that he's got plenty of time to recuperate right now, and decided to fight on till the end, no matter what.

I'm sorry, but I'm afraid I am in love with that fellow, so please don't mind me for now... :angel:

As for the Master's Cup: call me crazy, but I think Davydenko might win it.

Know what? You're not the only one. My cash is on Denko right now.
And if he manages it, I can only say: FULLY DESERVED for the MOST UNDERRATED PLAYER of the past five years!

Denko - go an get it, love! :D :yeah:

clever1980
11-15-2008, 05:07 AM
We have to take a look at Federer's game as a whole since the USO. In my opinion, it was really, really good. His slice had more sting, there were a couple of matches where his BH was really good (against Nalbandian in Basel it was really, really good), matches where he shoved his opponent around with the FH, wonderful movement....

I think 2009 will be a good year. He is still going to be super tough to beat in a best of 5 sets match off of clay and even on clay against anyone other than Nadal.

It is good to hear.

A few pundits are saying Roger would get better on clay in later years. They said while it is getting harder for him to win on hard courts but he could still go strong on Clay and Winbledon. Slower courts would suit him better as he gets older.

clever1980
11-15-2008, 05:15 AM
AO seems special enough to me :shrug: The whole ceremony thing with Rod Laver, Peter Carter is from there, and all that.. Besides, it's the earliest :angel:

If however, he fins RG (yeah, right) or Wimbledon to equal and/or break it, I'll be absolutely over the moon..

All I wish is that 2009 is a better year than this.. Yes, USO and OG are great, but I mean more along the lines of the injuries, illness and all that..

Hi Lekha,

I agree. Didn't Roger cry when he won AO in 2006? I don't mind to see him crying with joy again next year. The sooner the better. :)

SUKTUEN
11-15-2008, 06:25 AM
Roger!! You really are the paragon of sportman!!!!!!!!!!
I salute to you!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD PLEASE PLEASE Bless Roger healthy and happy in 2009!!!!!!!!!

ALLEZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Roger!!!!!!!!!!:worship::worship::bounce::bounce:

Sunset of Age
11-15-2008, 06:30 AM
I agree. Didn't Roger cry when he won AO in 2006? I don't mind to see him crying with joy again next year. The sooner the better. :)

That was such a lovely sight to see... I get weak in my knees remembering that sight. Roger... :hearts:

Roger!! You really are the paragon of sportman!!!!!!!!!!
I salute to you!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD PLEASE PLEASE Bless Roger healthy and happy in 2009!!!!!!!!!

ALLEZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Roger!!!!!!!!!!:worship::worship::bounce::bounce:

Yes, YES, and YES!!! :D

SUKTUEN
11-15-2008, 06:50 AM
Yes, YES, and YES!!! :D



Roger!! I Love you so much!!!!
ALLEZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Roger!!!!!!!!!!:bounce::bounce:

kissakiss
11-15-2008, 07:18 AM
A short clip of after match press conference

http://video.sina.com.cn/sports/t/v/2008-11-15/030017740.shtml

clever1980
11-15-2008, 07:38 AM
That was such a lovely sight to see... I get weak in my knees remembering that sight. Roger... :hearts:

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t0x
11-15-2008, 11:24 AM
Tough loss to Murray :(

You could hear the effort Fed was making, clearly he was hurting, normally he's so quiet and fluent. He's a real champ though.

2009 will be interesting. On his USO form he can easily win all the slams bar FO again, but I think that's expecting too much. I fansy him to equal Sampras at Wimbledon, and then have a real go at breaking it at the USO. I also think he'll be denyed by Rafa again at the FO, sadly.

Game.Set.Match..
11-15-2008, 11:29 AM
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i watched that on youtube a few weeks ago...too cute :inlove:

clever1980
11-15-2008, 01:03 PM
I wonder if Murray still felt winning against Federer meant as much to him as winning TMC. I don't have anything against Murray, really. I feel bad for Corey Feldman. :rolleyes:

Djoke would be thanking Lord, thanking Murray for spending all his energy taking Roger out. If Murray isn't fit to play, I would like honest Davy to go all the way.

anon57
11-15-2008, 01:13 PM
It does suck that the fact that Murray fought until the end yesterday instead of tanking his final RR match because he was already qualified for the semis may have cost him his match today.

nobama
11-15-2008, 01:14 PM
I wonder if Murray still felt winning against Federer meant as much to him as winning TMC. I don't have anything against Murray, really. I feel bad for Corey Feldman. :rolleyes:

Djoke would be thanking Lord, thanking Murray for spending all his energy taking Roger out. If Murray isn't fit to play, I would like honest Davy to go all the way.Yeah that wasn't the smartest thing to do. Epsecially since there was a good chance Roger wouldn't make the final anyway. :shrug:

Rita
11-15-2008, 01:21 PM
Mickey :hug: