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didadida
11-10-2008, 11:10 AM
I think you're mistaken, here. ;)

Murray is very hard and Roddick was playing good in his last matches especially when he is serving good

EternalxJourney
11-10-2008, 11:11 AM
That was a dumb move. Be patient!

didadida
11-10-2008, 11:11 AM
he wasted all the b points

Daniel
11-10-2008, 11:11 AM
deuce

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 11:11 AM
Murray is very hard and Roddick was playing good in his last matches especially when he is serving good

Simon is no "MUG" either, whatever they say in GM.

didadida
11-10-2008, 11:12 AM
he should be more patient

EternalxJourney
11-10-2008, 11:12 AM
OMG! This would be very funny if it weren't so sad. WAKE UP ROGER!!

Daniel
11-10-2008, 11:12 AM
Roger you moron :smash:

*3-4

trickcy
11-10-2008, 11:12 AM
3 BPs gone.... Ahhhh!!

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 11:12 AM
Shit man. Three BPs, all wasted, by UEs!!! :help:

didadida
11-10-2008, 11:12 AM
now your turn Roger HOLD

trickcy
11-10-2008, 11:13 AM
Don't you dare Toronto yourself Roger :fiery: :fiery: :fiery:

EternalxJourney
11-10-2008, 11:13 AM
I can't watch anymore. I stayed up all night (now morning) to watch him and this happens.. :'(

didadida
11-10-2008, 11:14 AM
0-15

Daniel
11-10-2008, 11:14 AM
love 15

Rommella
11-10-2008, 11:14 AM
Am not liking this at all.

didadida
11-10-2008, 11:15 AM
15 all

Daniel
11-10-2008, 11:15 AM
15 all

didadida
11-10-2008, 11:15 AM
Am not liking this at all.

me too :sad:



15-30

Daniel
11-10-2008, 11:16 AM
15 30 :(

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 11:16 AM
Roger's problem here is keeping his patience. As soon as he manages to do so, all is well... but he's too rushed, too f**ked up too often in this match. :(

trickcy
11-10-2008, 11:16 AM
Roger, try your bestestest to keep the ball in the court :). Thank you :hug:

didadida
11-10-2008, 11:16 AM
15-40

Daniel
11-10-2008, 11:16 AM
15 40

rwn
11-10-2008, 11:17 AM
Those forehands are horrendous :o

didadida
11-10-2008, 11:17 AM
it is over
3-5

trickcy
11-10-2008, 11:17 AM
Sigh.. that's it, I guess..

Daniel
11-10-2008, 11:17 AM
Simon serving for match 5-3

didadida
11-10-2008, 11:18 AM
another error
i hate it

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 11:18 AM
SHIT SHIT SHIT.
Sorry Rodge, but there's noone else than yourself to blame, here.

Rommella
11-10-2008, 11:19 AM
That forehand is breaking down.

Daniel
11-10-2008, 11:20 AM
Roger lost 64 46 36
whatever

Rommella
11-10-2008, 11:20 AM
The crowd sure is going wild over Simon.

didadida
11-10-2008, 11:21 AM
it is over and im not sorry for him he did it to himself
he let him back to the match again
now focus and dont play again like s**t in the next two matches

Rita
11-10-2008, 11:21 AM
absolutly heartbreaking no other way to describe this :bigcry:

trickcy
11-10-2008, 11:21 AM
Damn it :(
Well, just hope he doesn't go 0-3 :o

didadida
11-10-2008, 11:21 AM
oh my God 50 ufs

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 11:22 AM
it is over and im not sorry for him he did it to himselfhe let him back to the match again
now focus and dont play again like s**t in the next two matches

Fully agree with you, Donna. An absolute SHIT performance from Roger.

rwn
11-10-2008, 11:22 AM
29 winners, 50 unforced errors. Worst match of the year.

didadida
11-10-2008, 11:22 AM
Damn it :(
Well, just hope he doesn't go 0-3 :o

that is what im afraid of :sad:

EternalxJourney
11-10-2008, 11:23 AM
Roger you tool. WTF was that?

This year sucks.

Another RogFan
11-10-2008, 11:23 AM
Loosing against such a clown is a tough and shameful. Doing it for a second time is a real disaster.
The boy barely keeps the ball into the court but despite this Federer lost.

nobama
11-10-2008, 11:24 AM
Blech. That spoils my day. :(

Roger will go 0-3 this week. :o

trickcy
11-10-2008, 11:25 AM
50 UE!! 50!! What an awful performance..
Congrats to Simon... But Roger was pathetic :mad:

Corey Feldman
11-10-2008, 11:26 AM
If he had any fucken sense he'd just WD from the event

end this pathetic shit

he;s such a f'en mental midget against these players and he has no chance against Murray

saddest parts? when he was broke at 2*-1 in the 2nd set you know he'd lost that set and when he blew 0-40 in the third at 3-3 you know he'd be broken to go 5-3

just a pathetic player against these grinders and when its tight

dunno what the f'k happened to the old Roger who knew how to hit a FH

Game.Set.Match..
11-10-2008, 11:27 AM
well that was fairly self destructive. how can you be world number 2, defending champion....UP A SET AND A BREAK and lose to the SUBSTITUTE?! where did he think that forehand was going?

Rommella
11-10-2008, 11:28 AM
Toronto redux.

Corey Feldman
11-10-2008, 11:28 AM
that game in the third set when he lost 0-40 ... on AD Simon - Rog f'en smashed the ball out on purpose just because he never took 1 of the BPS .. what a f'en idiot.

nobama
11-10-2008, 11:30 AM
Fully agree with you, Donna. An absolute SHIT performance from Roger.Let us not forget that Roger said he was still taking pain killers for his back. And I also heard that he only practiced with local juniors because of his back. And the last shitty match he played he withdrew from the tournament the next day. When Roger was asked about his back this past week all he ever said was it's slowly getting better, he never said it was 100%.

trickcy
11-10-2008, 11:30 AM
saddest parts? when he was broke at 2*-1 in the 2nd set you know he'd lost that set and when he blew 0-40 in the third at 3-3 you know he'd be broken to go 5-3

Exactly.. It's just happened over and over again.. He fails to break, then gets broken immediately again...

dunno what the f'k happened to the old Roger who knew how to hit a FH
The BH, we've more or less given up on :( but the forehand :rolleyes:

Can't hit a running FH or DTL FH at all...

nobama
11-10-2008, 11:34 AM
If he had any fucken sense he'd just WD from the event

end this pathetic shit

he;s such a f'en mental midget against these players and he has no chance against Murray

saddest parts? when he was broke at 2*-1 in the 2nd set you know he'd lost that set and when he blew 0-40 in the third at 3-3 you know he'd be broken to go 5-3

just a pathetic player against these grinders and when its tight

dunno what the f'k happened to the old Roger who knew how to hit a FHHe should withdraw b/c clearly his back is not better.

I'm sorry but no fucking way he plays a match like this at TMC against someone like Simon if he's 100%. You can call me the ultimate tard, kool-aid drinker, or whatever I don't care. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 11:35 AM
Let us not forget that Roger said he was still taking pain killers for his back. And I also heard that he only practiced with local juniors because of his back. And the last shitty match he played he withdrew from the tournament the next day. When Roger was asked about his back this past week all he ever said was it's slowly getting better, he never said it was 100%.

Yes, might well be so - but I just don't want to accept easy excuses where I blame my other fav player for doing exactly that same thing. If you're not fit - DO. NOT. PLAY. That's all there is to say about this. :mad:

Corey Feldman
11-10-2008, 11:37 AM
Simon lost to in ss to Roddick 2 weeks ago

Roger lost 13 of the last 15 points

just a pure pathetic idiot when behind late in a 3rd set - every time

he'll never change.

MY - his back doesnt cause him to choke .. FH's and shots he was making easily in the 1st set suddenly disapear when the pressure is on him as did the serve, his back didnt cause that IMO

Game.Set.Match..
11-10-2008, 11:41 AM
i actually still cant believe this. im not sure i can take watching his next match....i think i jinx him anyway..

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 11:42 AM
MY - his back doesnt cause him to choke .. FH's and shots he was making easily in the 1st set suddenly disapear when the pressure is on him as did the serve, his back didnt cause that IMO

Fully agree, Mikey. Nothing to do with his back, rather with his BRAIN.
This was a brainfart if ever I saw one.

Game.Set.Match..
11-10-2008, 11:46 AM
i wish roddick and andy could somehow both lose their match....

trickcy
11-10-2008, 11:46 AM
Fully agree, Mikey. Nothing to do with his back, rather with his BRAIN.
This was a brainfart if ever I saw one.

I agree too.. He fights sometimes, and sometimes he goes this way... I just don't get it.. :shrug:
WTF was there to be so rattled today? Sure, he's lost to Simon before, but that's no reason to push volleys into the net, try belting the FH out of China.. :(

Eden
11-10-2008, 11:46 AM
When I first checked the score at work Roger won the 1st set and lead with a break in the 2nd, the next time he lost the 2nd set and when I returned home to have a look at the score he just wasted 3BPs and got broken in the next game :o

Disappoiting result for him, especially considering that he had the lead, but this match shows how a lot of matches went for him this season.

I just hope his back is ok, that's the most important thing :)

nobama
11-10-2008, 11:47 AM
I noticed Roger was flexing/stretching his legs during the 2nd set which is what he was doing during the Cillic match too. I don't want his back to become the "new mono", but the match got progressively worse which could have coinsided with pain killers wearing off. Roger's played some decent tennis this indoors season. To throw in a WTF performance, at TMC of all places, makes no sense to me.

Corey Feldman
11-10-2008, 11:48 AM
I have to laugh at the posts in GM saying Fed will still make the semi and beat Murray :lol:

how exactly does he plan to beat someone who can return his serve and outplay him from the baseline? he certainly had no f'en clue today

nobama
11-10-2008, 11:48 AM
Fully agree, Mikey. Nothing to do with his back, rather with his BRAIN.
This was a brainfart if ever I saw one.How do you know it has nothing to do with his back?!? Did you see some of the :o shots he hit out there today?

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 11:50 AM
I noticed Roger was flexing/stretching his legs during the 2nd set which is what he was doing during the Cillic match too. I don't want his back to become the "new mono", but the match got progressively worse which could have coinsided with pain killers wearing off. Roger's played some decent tennis this indoors season. To throw in a WTF performance, at TMC of all places, makes no sense to me.

I don't think it makes any sense to anyone... :sad: but then again - if he wasn't fit, he shouldn't have come out to play. I refuse to accept excuses for Roger where I don't accept them for Rafa either, it's as easy as that. :shrug:

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 11:51 AM
How do you know it has nothing to do with his back?!? Did you see some of the :o shots he hit out there today?

I don't think it makes any sense to anyone... :sad: but then again - if he wasn't fit, he shouldn't have come out to play. I refuse to accept excuses for Roger where I don't accept them for Rafa either, it's as easy as that. :shrug:

There you have it.

trickcy
11-10-2008, 11:52 AM
Did Simon really have more winners than Roger? :o

juninhOH
11-10-2008, 11:53 AM
EASE guys.

How can you say Fed has no chance of beating Murray? How many times does he need to prove us wrong?
Who will his next opponent be? Murray? Let him come.

trickcy
11-10-2008, 11:54 AM
I have to laugh at the posts in GM saying Fed will still make the semi and beat Murray :lol:

how exactly does he plan to beat someone who can return his serve and outplay him from the baseline? he certainly had no f'en clue today

:haha: That ain't gonna happen :sad:

:o

Can Djokovic get to #2 here in Shanghai? :help:

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 11:54 AM
EASE guys.

How can you say Fed has no chance of beating Murray? How many times does he need to prove us wrong?
Who will his next opponent be? Murray? Let him come.

:yeah: :) Not all is lost, yet.

nobama
11-10-2008, 11:56 AM
MY - his back doesnt cause him to choke .. FH's and shots he was making easily in the 1st set suddenly disapear when the pressure is on him as did the serve, his back didnt cause that IMOOh really? So a bad back wouldn't cause someone to miss 1st serves? He was missing most 1st serves in the 1st set too btw. In fact that's the 1st thing I noticed....couldn't get a 1st serve in to save his life.

I'll wait to hear what Roger says in his presser. All I know is he said he's still taking pain killers for his back and said it was "slowly getting better". You yourself were not optimistic after hearing that. Now his back has nothing to do with it and he's just a mental midget? Had Roger been playing Murray (and probably even Roddick) he would've lost in straights easily. And Simon would have as well.

Game.Set.Match..
11-10-2008, 11:57 AM
how do they work it if more than 2 players win the most matches?

Rita
11-10-2008, 11:57 AM
:haha: That ain't gonna happen :sad:

:o

Can Djokovic get to #2 here in Shanghai? :help:

roger has to win at least two matches

trickcy
11-10-2008, 11:58 AM
roger has to win at least two matches

Thanks Rita.. :scared: :scared:

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 12:04 PM
how do they work it if more than 2 players win the most matches?

The one that lost the least # of sets goes through, as far as I know.

didadida
11-10-2008, 12:04 PM
EASE guys.

How can you say Fed has no chance of beating Murray? How many times does he need to prove us wrong?
Who will his next opponent be? Murray? Let him come.

i like your spirit :worship: who knows maybe he will come out and play great tennis like last year ;) :D

i see Murray-Roddick match they are playing pretty good ;)

nobama
11-10-2008, 12:06 PM
I don't think it makes any sense to anyone... :sad: but then again - if he wasn't fit, he shouldn't have come out to play. I refuse to accept excuses for Roger where I don't accept them for Rafa either, it's as easy as that. :shrug:Hey, I never said Simon didn't deserve to win today. :shrug: We're talking about reasons why Roger lost today. I'm saying it's possible his back is still bothering him. This indoor season Roger's played some good tennis, won a tournament beating an in-form Nalbandian. Then he comes to TMC (a very important tournament for him), plays a CRAPTASTIC match against Simon (who himself only played marginally better) and I'm supposed to believe there's no explanation other than he sucks and is a mental midget? Sorry, no deal.

Corey Feldman
11-10-2008, 12:07 PM
Can Djokovic get to #2 here in Shanghai? :help:yes, and if he wins the title he will.

Oh really? So a bad back wouldn't cause someone to miss 1st serves? He was missing most 1st serves in the 1st set too btw. In fact that's the 1st thing I noticed....couldn't get a 1st serve in to save his life.

I'll wait to hear what Roger says in his presser. All I know is he said he's still taking pain killers for his back and said it was "slowly getting better". You yourself were not optimistic after hearing that. Now his back has nothing to do with it and he's just a mental midget? Had Roger been playing Murray (and probably even Roddick) he would've lost in straights easily. And Simon would have as well.too me it didnt look like an injury - it just looked like another one of those :retard: 'd type matches we were see'ing from him in the 1st half of the year when all of a sudden he is missing FH's by miles because he cant hit through opponents and serve them off court.

of course knowing Roger, i'm sure now that he's lost... he will mention the back.

just like Toronto - a set and a break up and he cant do it.

didadida
11-10-2008, 12:07 PM
:haha: That ain't gonna happen :sad:

:o

Can Djokovic get to #2 here in Shanghai? :help:

i guess there is 650 points between them if Djok won the tournament he will gain 750 :rolleyes:
so he will be number 2 :confused: if im right :confused:

Game.Set.Match..
11-10-2008, 12:12 PM
well its a good thing fed is not gonna lose another set this week then! :) POSITIVE THINKING COME ON ROGER! (please?)

Mrs. B
11-10-2008, 12:14 PM
drat.

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 12:15 PM
Hey, I never said Simon didn't deserve to win today. :shrug: We're talking about reasons why Roger lost today. I'm saying it's possible his back is still bothering him. This indoor season Roger's played some good tennis, won a tournament beating an in-form Nalbandian. Then he comes to TMC (a very important tournament for him), plays a CRAPTASTIC match against Simon (who himself only played marginally better) and I'm supposed to believe there's no explanation other than he sucks and is a mental midget? Sorry, no deal.

Hey... I'm as disappointed as you are, and I wish I had any clue why he put foreward such a terrible match today! :sad: :hug:
My only point is that I just don't want to accept simple excuses for Roger whereas I don't accept them for any other player either. Yes, his back may well still be bothering him - but that doesn't account for the numerous :retard: mistakes he made in this match - not just UEs, but also, very bad tactics. That has nothing to do with someone's back hurting, I think...

too me it didnt look like an injury - it just looked like another one of those :retard: 'd type matches we were see'ing from him in the 1st half of the year when all of a sudden he is missing FH's by miles because he cant hit through opponents and serve them off court.

My impression as well.

of course knowing Roger, i'm sure now that he's lost... he will mention the back.

I sincerely hope that he WON'T.

*Ljubica*
11-10-2008, 12:19 PM
To my friends here :hug: Feel sad that Roger lost.

And don't worry Mikey, - there is no way Nole can win this title even though I want him to more than anything. Murray and Tsonga can both beat him nowadays :shrug:

And I think Roger can still qualify from the group - I really do, so try not to be too sad:hug:

Corey Feldman
11-10-2008, 12:20 PM
Murray 5-3 v Roddick so far

trickcy
11-10-2008, 12:20 PM
yes, and if he wins the title he will.

just like Toronto - a set and a break up and he cant do it.
Dammit :( Thanks Mikey :wavey:

i guess there is 650 points between them if Djok won the tournament he will gain 750 :rolleyes:
so he will be number 2 :confused: if im right :confused:
Sigh.. Thanks Donna :wavey:



I sincerely hope that he WON'T.

Well, since he has two matches to play, I don't think he will say anything about his back.. If he didn't have any match after this, he might have said something...

nobama
11-10-2008, 12:24 PM
yes, and if he wins the title he will.

too me it didnt look like an injury - it just looked like another one of those :retard: 'd type matches we were see'ing from him in the 1st half of the year when all of a sudden he is missing FH's by miles because he cant hit through opponents and serve them off court.

of course knowing Roger, i'm sure now that he's lost... he will mention the back.

just like Toronto - a set and a break up and he cant do it.Yes, of course because Roger always blames losses on injury. :retard:

Let's see....Roger's had hardly any practice this week, is on pain killers because of a bad back, but nah, that can't have anything to do with this loss. No one knew about his bad back during the Cillic match either. Not until the next day when he withdrew from the tournament. That match was just considered a WTF craptastic match too.

Being up a set and a break of course I wish Roger could have closed it out in 2. And no I'm not saying this loss was 100% because of his back. All I'm saying is it should be taken into consideration.

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 12:28 PM
To my friends here :hug: Feel sad that Roger lost.

And don't worry Mikey, - there is no way Nole can win this title even though I want him to more than anything. Murray and Tsonga can both beat him nowadays :shrug:

And I think Roger can still qualify from the group - I really do, so try not to be too sad:hug:

Thank you, Rose. :hug:
Do you really think that Djoko can't win that title here? ;)

trickcy
11-10-2008, 12:34 PM
To my friends here :hug: Feel sad that Roger lost.

And don't worry Mikey, - there is no way Nole can win this title even though I want him to more than anything. Murray and Tsonga can both beat him nowadays :shrug:

And I think Roger can still qualify from the group - I really do, so try not to be too sad:hug:

Thanks a lot, Rose :hug:

I think Novak has a good shot at winning this ;) I guess Murray is his main obstacle... But let's see how things play out..

Corey Feldman
11-10-2008, 12:34 PM
:wavey: tricky

the reason why i think Nole has a chance is just because he hasnt played as much tennis lately, since US open - mainly because of early defeats.

tireness can play a big factor in this event.

an lets face it - he'll probably top his group and get Simon or Roddick in his semi.

Corey Feldman
11-10-2008, 12:35 PM
this MC can go to hell for me.

both my f'en players can win a match against inferior opponents when they win 1st set, unreal.

this is what i mean about tiredness

who played more than anyone lately? Fed and Murray.

*Ljubica*
11-10-2008, 12:36 PM
Thank you, Rose. :hug:
Do you really think that Djoko can't win that title here? ;)

Yes - I honestly do - and that's not just me "protecting" myself from disappointment. He's had a totally sh*t last few months and is lacking in confidence and self-belief.......... why he couldn't even serve out the 1st set against JMDP yesterday because he was too "tight" to serve decently :rolleyes: He needs some time off to rest, re-group and reassess.

In my view Murray is the favourite for the title - always has been. He likes the surface and he's full of confidence. I would have placed Roger as next-favourite, but after seeing him today I fear that isn't going to happen. Maybe a "dark horse" like Davydenko can cause an upset? But the Novak haters can rest easy, - none of his fans think he has a chance in hell :tape:

Btw- sorry to mention other players here - don't want to tread on any toes - just replying to a specific question :) Best get back to work now anyway - lunchtime is over!

nobama
11-10-2008, 12:37 PM
Hey... I'm as disappointed as you are, and I wish I had any clue why he put foreward such a terrible match today! :sad: :hug:
My only point is that I just don't want to accept simple excuses for Roger whereas I don't accept them for any other player either. Yes, his back may well still be bothering him - but that doesn't account for the numerous :retard: mistakes he made in this match - not just UEs, but also, very bad tactics. That has nothing to do with someone's back hurting, I Well couldn't we say that having a brainfart or being a mental midget is a simple excuse as well? I know because this match followed the same pattern as their last match the assumption is Roger's just :retard:. But Canada is not TMC and Roger wasn't just coming off a stinging loss at Wimbledon.

Seems to me it was a combination of a lot of things today. I agree that a bad back wouldn't account for bad tactics, but I DO think it would have an effect on his serving which was very poor and some of the other WTF errors he made.

nobama
11-10-2008, 12:39 PM
this MC can go to hell for me.

both my f'en players can win a match against inferior opponents when they win 1st set, unreal.

this is what i mean about tiredness

who played more than anyone lately? Fed and Murray.Maybe I should wish for a Roddick win today....he might be tougher for Roger to beat. :eek:

juninhOH
11-10-2008, 12:40 PM
It's weird that Roger is having breakdowns at this stage of his career.

Roddick is playing so offensively lol he is trying to go to the net at every point.


BTW, if someone gets Roger's interview plz post it here! :)

trickcy
11-10-2008, 12:41 PM
Mikey :wavey:

Yep, Novak should be able to come through his group, and if he gets Simon/Roddick, I think he'll win over them too.. That leaves probably Murray... But they've made it so far, it should be a good match...

What's the matter?
Andy is winning, isn't he?

trickcy
11-10-2008, 12:43 PM
Not only was Roger's anticipation and execution bad, but his gameplan as well..Stubborn as usual.. "It's my way or highway" sort of..

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 12:44 PM
Yes - I honestly do - and that's not just me"protecting" myself from disappointment. He's had a totally sh*t last few months and is lacking in confidence amd self-belief.......... why he couldn't even serve out the 1st set against JMDP yesterday because he was too "tight" to serve decently :rolleyes: Heneeds some time off to rest, re-group and reassess.

His tennis talent hasn't just flown out of the window, you know. ;)
I still think Djoko has a good chance here. His group - sorry to say so - pretty friendly, and I'm sure he realizes he has a good shot to make it to the #2 position in Shanghai. Even if he hasn't been performing well the past few months, we should remember that that is normal - players having their ups and downs during a season. What Fed and Raf have been showing the past couple of years is the exception, not the rule. :)

In my view Muray is the favourite for the title - always has been. He likes the surface and he's full of confidence. I would have placed Roger as next-favourite, but after seeing him today I fear that isn't going to happen. Maybe a "dark horse" like Davydenko can cause an upset? But the Novak haters can rest easy, - none of his fans think he has a chance in hell :tape:

I put quite a bit of cash on Muzza to win this title, but right now... he's struggling for a bit against Roddick... so, well... let's just see what happens! Somehow I guess it would highly favour Roger if Muzza indeed loses today. :cool:

Btw- sorry to mention other players ere - don't want to tread on any toes - just replying to a specific question :) best get back to work now anyway - lunchtime is over!

When discussing tennis it's inevitable to mention other players I think. You're not stepping on MY toes, that's for sure! :)

Corey Feldman
11-10-2008, 12:45 PM
Maybe I should wish for a Roddick win today....he might be tougher for Roger to beat. :eek:thats alright for you

but my hopes of Muzza and Fed qualie'ing are going down the drain as i type

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 12:47 PM
Not only was Roger's anticipation and execution bad, but his gameplan as well..Stubborn as usual.. "It's my way or highway" sort of..

And that's exactly why I refuse to take 'back pain' as an excuse for his pathetic loss today. Stupid tactics, indeed. Roger, Roger... why??? ~sigh~

didadida
11-10-2008, 12:50 PM
i see Murray is losing the second set
Roddick is leading 5-0

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 12:52 PM
i see Murray is losing the second set
Roddick is leading 5-0

Muzza is about to eat some bakery products!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

didadida
11-10-2008, 12:52 PM
Roddick mug he lost his servr when he is serving for the set

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 01:08 PM
Nice tank job in that second set, Muzza. :smoke:

nobama
11-10-2008, 01:09 PM
And that's exactly why I refuse to take 'back pain' as an excuse for his pathetic loss today. Stupid tactics, indeed. Roger, Roger... why??? ~sigh~Let's see....Murray won the 1st set and then lost the 2nd 1-6. I suppose that's just :retard: on his part as well?

Did you see any of the women's event in Doha? Craptastic performances all around (yes I know it's WTA, but still...), 2 players withdrew and Venus Williams, ranked #7 ended up winning it.

It's the end of the year, guys are tired/spent/hurt, whatever and it shows in their performances. I just heard that Eurosport is reporting Nadal won't play DC because his injury is more serious than initally thought. And plenty here on MTF thought he only retired in Paris because he was losing and skipped out on TMC because he knew he wouldn't win it. But that's just typical MTF - anyone who has an injury (serious or minor) is considered a faker or just making excuses. :rolleyes:

nobama
11-10-2008, 01:11 PM
Real high quality matches so far this week. Great stuff. :yeah:

didadida
11-10-2008, 01:12 PM
this is a very weird match Murray leads now 4-0 in the third set

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 01:17 PM
Let's see....Murray won the 1st set and then lost the 2nd 1-6. I suppose that's just :retard: on his part as well?

Nope, that's called 'tanking a set'. ;)

Did you see any of the women's event in Doha? Craptastic performances all around (yes I know it's WTA, but still...), 2 players withdrew and Venus Williams, ranked #7 ended up winning it.

I tried to watch some matches, but right now, my eyes are still bleeding from that attempt. :help:

It's the end of the year, guys are tired/spent/hurt, whatever and it shows in their performances.

True, of course.

I just heard that Eurosport is reporting Nadal won't play DC because his injury is more serious than initally thought. And plenty here on MTF thought he only retired in Paris because he was losing and skipped out on TMC because he knew he wouldn't win it. But that's just typical MTF - anyone who has an injury (serious or minor) is considered a faker or just making excuses. :rolleyes:

Oh, shit. Shit shit shit. I so hope it's just Eurosport Silly Commentators saying that! :sad:
BTW, I never thought Raf's injury not to be serious (;)) - I'd have rather seen him not showing up in Paris at all than to show up and make his injury worse, which he probably did. :(
If Roger's back is indeed still troubling him, he should have done exactly the same thing here in Shanghai - WITHDRAW, I mean.

Crazy Girl
11-10-2008, 01:20 PM
I'm in "DEEP MOURNING"....Yes, I am......:sad::bigcry::tears::sobbing::rain::sad::b igcry::tears::sobbing::rain: Now I'm going to be.......drunk!!!:drink::drink::drink:

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 01:25 PM
I'm in "DEEP MOURNING"....Yes, I am......:sad::bigcry::tears::sobbing::rain::sad::b igcry::tears::sobbing::rain: Now I'm going to be.......drunk!!!:drink::drink::drink:

:lol: - I'm with you. Where's the beer?

nobama
11-10-2008, 01:28 PM
Nope, that's called 'tanking a set'. ;)Yes, because tanking a set (especially against Roddick) is much better than winning in straights (Murray won the 3rd 6-1). If that isn't :retard: .....


I tried to watch some matches, but right now, my eyes are still bleeding from that attempt. :help:

:lol: My only point was, a lot of crap tennis was played there because it's the end of a long season and the players are spent physically and mentally. Same here so far. No real high quality matches yet.


Oh, shit. Shit shit shit. I so hope it's just Eurosport Silly Commentators saying that! :sad:
BTW, I never thought Raf's injury not to be serious (;)) - I'd have rather seen him not showing up in Paris at all than to show up and make his injury worse, which he probably did. :(
If Roger's back is indeed still troubling him, he should have done exactly the same thing here in Shanghai - WITHDRAW, I mean.I agree with you, Roger should withdraw if his back is still bothering him. It's good that he has a day off. I hope Nadal is able to play DC.

nobama
11-10-2008, 01:30 PM
Roger said today:

“Definitely today shots maybe I miss I normally don’t miss,” Federer said. “I think that’s just lack of practice and just uncertainty where my back was today. Now at least I have a match under my belt, especially three sets, and I hope I can play better in the next match.”

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 01:33 PM
Yes, because tanking a set (especially against Roddick) is much better than winning in straights (Murray won the 3rd 6-1). If that isn't :retard: .....

It's Muzza. He's done it before. Good strategic thinking. ;)

Roger said today:

“Definitely today shots maybe I miss I normally don’t miss,” Federer said. “I think that’s just lack of practice and just uncertainty where my back was today. Now at least I have a match under my belt, especially three sets, and I hope I can play better in the next match.”

We hope so too, Rodge. :o

nobama
11-10-2008, 01:41 PM
It's Muzza. He's done it before. Good strategic thinking. ;)So winning a match in 3 when you easily could have won in 2 is "strategic thinking"? Somehow I think if that was Roger we wouldn't be callingn it "strategic thinking"? ;)

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 01:43 PM
So winning a match in 3 when you easily could have won in 2 is "strategic thinking"? Somehow I think if that was Roger we wouldn't be callingn it "strategic thinking"? ;)

You don't really think I was serious, do you? ;)

Corey Feldman
11-10-2008, 01:45 PM
Roger said today:

“Definitely today shots maybe I miss I normally don’t miss,” Federer said. “I think that’s just lack of practice and just uncertainty where my back was today. Now at least I have a match under my belt, especially three sets, and I hope I can play better in the next match.”i wonder when he'll agknowlege he just cant beat these grinders when they are in top form

Nadal
Murray
Canas
Simon

just goes on and on, he needs to realize WHY he is missing the shots - and missing them by 10 foot by the time its deep in a third set

nobama
11-10-2008, 01:47 PM
You don't really think I was serious, do you? ;)Not sure what to think anymore. :shrug:

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 01:51 PM
just goes on and on, he needs to realize WHY he is missing the shots - and missing them by 10 foot by the time its deep in a third set

If he knew *why* he misses those shots nowadays, he'd be able to do something about it, I guess. :sad:

Not sure what to think anymore. :shrug:

Nor do I... that's why I now lower myself to making lame, cheap jokes. Damn, I feel gutted. REALLY gutted. I can well accept Roger losing a match because of his opponent playing very well - but this... no way man. :sad: :sad: :sad:
I should get out of here before I start damaging things. :(

Corey Feldman
11-10-2008, 01:52 PM
cant believe, apart from every other thing that needs to happen, Roddick needs to beat Simon for a chance of Murray and Fed still going through

nobama
11-10-2008, 01:58 PM
"I'm going to go match by match. That's the only way to go here anyway," Federer said.

Federer, who has been taking painkillers and getting daily treatment on his strained back, said he was not troubled by the problem but played with less aggression than usual.

"I had matches in Basel I was serving 15 aces. Here I was serving three aces. Definitely it was a factor today," he said.

"I was just being cautious and then on top of that just not feeling it well. I haven't been serving much all week, maybe 50 serves in the last nine days."

Lleyton_
11-10-2008, 01:59 PM
i wonder when he'll agknowlege he just cant beat these grinders when they are in top form

Nadal
Murray
Canas
Simon

just goes on and on, he needs to realize WHY he is missing the shots - and missing them by 10 foot by the time its deep in a third set

Are you kidding me? He will never do that. Perhaps because he CAN beat all of them. When Roger plays his game he can blow them off the court. Indoors he really should've won against Simon because he's beaten Nadal and Canas easily before. I suppose his back is bothering him.

nobama
11-10-2008, 02:03 PM
Nor do I... that's why I now lower myself to making lame, cheap jokes. Damn, I feel gutted. REALLY gutted. I can well accept Roger losing a match because of his opponent playing very well - but this... no way man. :sad: :sad: :sad:
I should get out of here before I start damaging things. :(I guess that's why I get so defensive, because I just can't believe Roger could play this poorly for no explicable reason. He says his back wasn't bothering him today, but coming into this match with next to no real practice plus getting treatment for his back is a recipe for disaster. :sad: And it would be just like Roddick to play out of his skin on Wednesday. :rolleyes:

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 02:03 PM
"I'm going to go match by match. That's the only way to go here anyway," Federer said.

Federer, who has been taking painkillers and getting daily treatment on his strained back, said he was not troubled by the problem but played with less aggression than usual.

"I had matches in Basel I was serving 15 aces. Here I was serving three aces. Definitely it was a factor today," he said.

"I was just being cautious and then on top of that just not feeling it well. I haven't been serving much all week, maybe 50 serves in the last nine days."

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Fed, it's pretty simple: if you don't feel well enough to play, WITHDRAW. In such case you have no business in Shanghai whatsoever.

Corey Feldman
11-10-2008, 02:04 PM
just WD from the f'en tournament FFS Roger, you know you want to

make plans on how to win those bigger titles in 09 - the Abu Dhabi cash cow Invitational where the grinders wont be bothered and will let you swipe away you're beautiful pretty proper tennis winning shots and everyone will bow down to you, as it should be.

you'll be all smiles again

nobama
11-10-2008, 02:07 PM
Roger said he hardly practiced any serves in the last two weeks or so. When his serve is crap and he doesn't have a good serving rhythm the rest of his game is usually crap too.

nobama
11-10-2008, 02:09 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Fed, it's pretty simple: if you don't feel well enough to play, WITHDRAW. In such case you have no business in Shanghai whatsoever.Yeah I wish he would too. But I don't really want to see him drop to #3 either. DAMN. :sad:

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 02:09 PM
just WD from the f'en tournament FFS Roger, you know you want to

make plans on how to win those bigger titles in 09 - the Abu Dhabi cash cow Invitational where the grinders wont be bothered and will let you swipe away you're beautiful pretty proper tennis winning shots and everyone will bow down to you, as it should be.

you'll be all smiles again

You just made me choke on my tea laughing, Mikey. :haha: :haha: :haha:

Sorry, just couldn't help myself.

trickcy
11-10-2008, 02:11 PM
It's the why which is most puzzling.. Why does he make :worship: shots at one moment and :retard: ones the next? There's no consistency anymore.. His backhand has really deteriorated.. But his FH which was once his bread and butter shot just doesn't do it anymore. I guess if he knew why, he'd do his best to solve it...

I just hope he does something about it.. Many people keep suggesting a full time coach, and I can see that a new perspective might help things, but, unless it's someone whom he knows well and respects, I don't see it working..

I know that with age, he'll get worse and all that.. And while I can accept his movement, anticipation or those sort of things maybe coming down a notch, he's technically getting worse, and I hate it :(

EDIT : Sorry for all the D&G :o

trickcy
11-10-2008, 02:13 PM
just WD from the f'en tournament FFS Roger, you know you want to

make plans on how to win those bigger titles in 09 - the Abu Dhabi cash cow Invitational where the grinders wont be bothered and will let you swipe away you're beautiful pretty proper tennis winning shots and everyone will bow down to you, as it should be.

you'll be all smiles again

:spit: :rolls: That's kinda sad :awww: but still :haha:


Yeah I wish he would too. But I don't really want to see him drop to #3 either. DAMN. :sad:

Same here.. Many did wish he'd just call it a season after the US Open, but it was the same reason then :mad:

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 02:18 PM
I guess that's why I get so defensive, because I just can't believe Roger could play this poorly for no explicable reason.

Yeah... I understand :hug:. I'm trying to laugh off my disappointment, but it isn't really working I'm afraid. :sad:

It's the why which is most puzzling.. Why does he make :worship: shots at one moment and :retard: ones the next? There's no consistency anymore..

That's the most worrying thing of all I think - the lack of consistency.

I know that with age, he'll get worse and all that.. And while I can accept his movement, anticipation or those sort of things maybe coming down a notch, he's technically getting worse, and I hate it :(

Here's another one. :(
Apparently also 'not having a proper gameplan' anymore. And THAT I just don't get, as it has nothing to do with aging, back troubles and the like. :(

Eden
11-10-2008, 02:28 PM
Although I haven't seen this match I find the general Roger is finished thing on MTF a bit overrated. It's the end of a very tough season for him, he couldn't really practice the last days and had to play against a player who is a bad match-up for him as a few other players on the tour.

It's amazing to see how quick opinions change on MTF: One day it is for sure Roger is going to win 2 or 3 GS titles next year, the next moment he is the mug of the month and clueless of how to play tennis.

It saddens me every time whenever Roger loses a match to read the forum. Call me a fangirl, but some of the things which are said about him are so hateful and just mean. The guy deserves a bit more respect for the things he has achieved.

Let's all keep fingers crossed that his back will be better and then let's wait and see what will happen in the next matches.

I'm sure he would have skipped the tournament when he thinks he risks his health, but maybe he also feels a responsibility to show up in Shanghai now that Rafa wasn't able to play.

Corey Feldman
11-10-2008, 02:28 PM
EDIT : Sorry for all the D&G :o
Dolce & Gabana? :p

Daniel
11-10-2008, 02:38 PM
I know that with age, he'll get worse and all that.. And while I can accept his movement, anticipation or those sort of things maybe coming down a notch, he's technically getting worse, and I hate it :(



True. Why wouldnt he get a good coah?

Sad to see him losing this kind of mathes:sad:

nobama
11-10-2008, 02:38 PM
Although I haven't seen this match I find the general Roger is finished thing on MTF a bit overrated. It's the end of a very tough season for him, he couldn't really practice the last days and had to play against a player who is a bad match-up for him as a few other players on the tour.

It's amazing to see how quick opinions change on MTF: One day it is for sure Roger is going to win 2 or 3 GS titles next year, the next moment he is the mug of the month and clueless of how to play tennis.

It saddens me every time whenever Roger loses a match to read the forum. Call me a fangirl, but some of the things which are said about him are so hateful and just mean. The guy deserves a bit more respect for the things he has achieved.

Let's all keep fingers crossed that his back will be better and then let's wait and see what will happen in the next matches.

I'm sure he would have skipped the tournament when he thinks he risks his health, but maybe he also feels a responsibility to show up in Shanghai now that Rafa wasn't able to play.Doris. :worship:

That's why I refuse to go in GM when Roger looses. Don't need to hear all the nonsense and trolling, with Fed fans joining in. :sad:

Puschkin
11-10-2008, 02:39 PM
Although I haven't seen this match I find the general Roger is finished thing on MTF a bit overrated. It's the end of a very tough season for him, he couldn't really practice the last days and had to play against a player who is a bad match-up for him as a few other players on the tour.

I could not agree more. Roger is not finished, it is just that his extraterrestrial results between 2004 and 2007 have come to an end this year. I personally doubt that he will ever be as dominant as he once was, but he still has a good time before him and also results that many other players would envy from the bottom of their hearts.

Sorry for being so blunt but the new thread title is stupid.

NYCtennisfan
11-10-2008, 02:41 PM
i wonder when he'll agknowlege he just cant beat these grinders when they are in top form

Nadal
Murray
Canas
Simon

just goes on and on, he needs to realize WHY he is missing the shots - and missing them by 10 foot by the time its deep in a third set

Nadal may be a grinder, but he's unique, especially in his ability to his passing shots. Murray has a great serve, return and backhand. Simon and Canas depend completely on how Federer is playing.

Eden
11-10-2008, 02:41 PM
Why wouldnt he get a good coah?


Maybe there's no one available he wants to work with :shrug: I mean, it's maybe not easy to find someone who is willing to coach you in your 2nd part of your career. What can a coach teach a player who won 13 Grand Slam titles and was #1 for so many consecutive weeks?

Corey Feldman
11-10-2008, 02:45 PM
True. Why wouldnt he get a good coah?

Sad to see him losing this kind of mathes:sad:same here, this wasnt happening to him from 2004-2006

those damn loses to Canas last year started something

a coach no one ever mentions is Pilic - the guy who worked with Ivanisevic all those years and captain'd Germany to the DC title a few times and Croatia in 2005

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 02:47 PM
That's why I refuse to go in GM when Roger looses. Don't need to hear all the nonsense and trolling, with Fed fans joining in. :sad:

There's a difference between being rightfully critical and trolling... :shrug:

Sorry for being so blunt but the new thread title is stupid.

Completely agreed. I'm afraid I lack the kind of sense of 'humour' to appreciate these 'funny' thread titles.
Nobody's Perfect. :angel:

nobama
11-10-2008, 02:50 PM
There's a difference between being rightfully critical and trolling... :shrug:Yeah I know the difference but I also know what I see in GM. Not from all fans, of course. ;)

trickcy
11-10-2008, 02:51 PM
No mikey :p
Doom and Gloom

Doris :hug: You're as reasonable as always :hug: I know we're a fickle lot :o It's just maybe we were a little too spoiled and now, therefore things seem that much worse..

I don't think Roger's finished or his career is over at all.. I'm just concerned because he's losing matches based on his own performance a little too often...

I really really hope his back is fine, and that's not contributed to this... But, I guess we're just very concerned :shrug: :hug:

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 02:54 PM
Yeah I know the difference but I also know what I see in GM. Not from all fans, of course. ;)

Well, sometimes 'the line that divides' is very thin indeed. Yes, I have posted quite some Roger-unfriendly remarks today as well - but that's merely because I absolutely can't make anything positive from his match today. :sad:
(awaiting the first troll to accuse me of being a Rafa-tard right now. :angel:)

trickcy
11-10-2008, 02:57 PM
OK.. Title changed :o
I guess it didn't come out the way I wanted it to :o

nobama
11-10-2008, 02:59 PM
Well, sometimes 'the line that divides' is very thin indeed. Yes, I have posted quite some Roger-unfriendly remarks today as well - but that's merely because I absolutely can't make anything positive from his match today. :sad:
(awaiting the first troll to accuse me of being a Rafa-tard right now. :angel:)Well I think you're doing it out of concern. Others (many of whom never frequent this forum) do it just to be liked - nothing better for popularity on MTF than a Fed fan crapping all over Roger. :rolleyes:

Filipo
11-10-2008, 02:59 PM
Eden, completely right :yeah:

Hopefully no healthy problems to Roger and hopefully repeating the 2007 scenario :)

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 03:00 PM
OK.. Title changed :o

Thank you... :hug:
Sorry if I was a bit harsh. Wasn't meant that way, but I realize I'm just a bit touchy right now... :sad:

trickcy
11-10-2008, 03:03 PM
Video interview :

www.atpmastersseries.tv/page/Shanghai/Interviews/0,,11444~1450268,00.html

Minnie
11-10-2008, 03:08 PM
All doom + gloom around here again today is it :haha::haha::haha:

trickcy
11-10-2008, 03:11 PM
All doom + gloom around here again today is it :haha::haha::haha:

Glad you're enjoying it :D :D :D :D :D

Eden
11-10-2008, 03:11 PM
That's why I refuse to go in GM when Roger looses. Don't need to hear all the nonsense and trolling, with Fed fans joining in. :sad:

Well, there's a difference between trolling, objective criticsm and overreaction. We can see a mixture of all three.

I could not agree more. Roger is not finished, it is just that his extraterrestrial results between 2004 and 2007 have come to an end this year. I personally doubt that he will ever be as dominant as he once was, but he still has a good time before him and also results that many other players would envy from the bottom of their hearts.

I doubt we will ever see someone dominating as much as Roger did during 2004 and 2007. How many more players as Roddick or Blake do have to speak out that they would love to have a season just like Roger did have?

As modest his results have been in a lot of best of 3 matches we could also see that it is still difficult to beat Roger in a best of 5 match.

By the way, M, you are a fan of Simon, right? Congratulations to Gilles. I saw him in a pretournament interview and he was really nice there, especially with his words towards Nadal, who he replaced in the tournament.


a coach no one ever mentions is Pilic - the guy who worked with Ivanisevic all those years and captain'd Germany to the DC title a few times and Croatia in 2005

Pilic has a tennisacademy in Munich. He coached Djokovic there for 3 1/2 years. Gulbis has also been on this academy.

Doris :hug: You're as reasonable as always :hug: I know we're a fickle lot :o It's just maybe we were a little too spoiled and now, therefore things seem that much worse..

I don't think Roger's finished or his career is over at all.. I'm just concerned because he's losing matches based on his own performance a little too often...

I really really hope his back is fine, and that's not contributed to this... But, I guess we're just very concerned :shrug: :hug:

Lekha, I didn't wanted to complain about anyone in here :hug: Hope I haven't sounded wrong. I know everyone in here wants the best for Roger. We all know what he is capable of playing and it is disappoiting that he couldn't show it today.

Puschkin
11-10-2008, 03:12 PM
OK.. Title changed :o

Thanks a lot. :)

Puschkin
11-10-2008, 03:15 PM
By the way, M, you are a fan of Simon, right? Congratulations to Gilles. I saw him in a pretournament interview and he was really nice there, especially with his words towards Nadal, who he replaced in the tournament.

I am not really a fan, but I have some sympathy for the guy. I don't like his game very much, but I adore the facts that he does not care about football and plays the piano, both rather unusal things for a tennis player.

Game.Set.Match..
11-10-2008, 03:21 PM
Video interview :

www.atpmastersseries.tv/page/Shanghai/Interviews/0,,11444~1450268,00.html

is this video anywhere else? cause my computer wont let me watch videos from this site :mad:

Corey Feldman
11-10-2008, 03:21 PM
doom and gloom is expected when Roger plays like that and loses matches like that

its good to vent, its part of the healing process for some fans

in reality its not as bad a situation as we think i guess, if he beats Roddick next and Muzza beats Simon - then all is still alive

but its a KO tournament for him now, i wonder if Murray would take it easy v Roger IF he was already in the SF by the time that match happens

and could he still go out if he beats Murray and Simon beats Roddick :confused:
damn it

trickcy
11-10-2008, 03:24 PM
is this video anywhere else? cause my computer wont let me watch videos from this site :mad:

It should be put up here soon :
http://in.youtube.com/user/ATP

Corey Feldman
11-10-2008, 03:26 PM
why the f**k would you want to watch that match? :o

Eden
11-10-2008, 03:28 PM
I am not really a fan, but I have some sympathy for the guy. I don't like his game very much, but I adore the facts that he does not care about football and plays the piano, both rather unusal things for a tennis player.

Thanks for the explanation :)

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 03:28 PM
is this video anywhere else? cause my computer wont let me watch videos from this site :mad:

Same here. :(

doom and gloom is expected when Roger plays like that and loses matches like that

Yep. Like I said, it's not so much the loss itself that has upset me the way it has - it's the WAY he lost. By, to put it in an unfriendly way, beating himself rather than let his opponent do so.

its good to vent, its part of the healing process for some fans

It sure is for me Mikey. :hug:

in reality its not as bad a situation as we think i guess, if he beats Roddick next and Muzza beats Simon - then all is still alive

What if Simon beats Muzza? Not that I expect it to happen, but well... you never know.

Corey Feldman
11-10-2008, 03:35 PM
What if Simon beats Muzza? Not that I expect it to happen, but well... you never know.well if that happened and Rog beats Roddick

then Federer-Murray match would be a straight shootout to see who joins Simon in Semis

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 03:38 PM
then Federer-Murray match would be a straight shootout to see who joins Simon in Semis

I don't think I'll be watching if this happens. :help:

nobama
11-10-2008, 03:43 PM
Hey, at least Roger came into this tournament admitting he didn't know how things would go. That, along him saying his back was "slowly" getting better was enough for me to not get my hopes up. I mean, shit, he said he's only practiced 50 serves in the past 9 days. And especially went light in practice.

Roger probably shouldn't have played TMC in 2005. Obviously he places this tournament right up there below the Slams and it would take a lot for him to not compete.

Corey Feldman
11-10-2008, 03:43 PM
would be a disaster for me as well Kazza :sad:

Simon in semis :rolleyes: bet he'd bend over for Nole

amazing these players who save their best performances for playing Roger thesedays

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 03:48 PM
amazing these players who save their best performances for playing Roger thesedays

Ah, you know, they've been bending over for him some 237 weeks long, haven't they? ;)

kissakiss
11-10-2008, 04:05 PM
A short clip of after match press conference.

http://video.sina.com.cn/sports/t/v/2008-11-10/233017557.shtml

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 04:30 PM
Apparently, Rafa won't be playing the DC final. What a completely shitty day it is today. :sad:

ExpectedWinner
11-10-2008, 04:37 PM
i wonder when he'll agknowlege he just cant beat these grinders when they are in top form

Nadal
Murray
Canas
Simon

just goes on and on, he needs to realize WHY he is missing the shots - and missing them by 10 foot by the time its deep in a third set


Hey, I'm still happy that he beat that grinder Andreev at the USO. :D I guess it's how it will be from now on- patiently waiting for a couple of tournaments where everything (physically/technically/mentally) clicks for him.

Rogieva
11-10-2008, 05:56 PM
Roger :sad:

Please beat Roddick and Murray :unsure:

nobama
11-10-2008, 07:43 PM
Apparently, Rafa won't be playing the DC final. What a completely shitty day it is today. :sad::hug:

On the bright side Nadal should be completely fit for AO. :)

Puschkin
11-10-2008, 08:01 PM
amazing these players who save their best performances for playing Roger thesedays
Simon beat Nadal in Madrid.

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 08:02 PM
:hug:

On the bright side Nadal should be completely fit for AO. :)

:D - be sure I will be pissed off at him if he turns up at that Abu Dhabi Cash Cow Invitational (:lol: Mikey).

Game.Set.Match..
11-10-2008, 08:10 PM
It should be put up here soon :
http://in.youtube.com/user/ATP

thanks :)

Federerhingis
11-10-2008, 08:11 PM
Apparently, Rafa won't be playing the DC final. What a completely shitty day it is today. :sad:

I know on the bright side I've officially become a first time uncle. ;) :yeah:

I was hoping to get good news too from Roger's I guess one can't have it all sometimes. :p

:bigwave:

By the way how many errors did Roger commit on this up and down affair?

Sunset of Age
11-10-2008, 08:16 PM
I know on the bright side I've officially become a first time uncle. ;) :yeah:

CONGRATS again Luis! :bounce:

By the way how many errors did Roger commit on this up and down affair?

Okay, brace yourself: FIFTY. And yes, they were all UEs. :bigcry:

lunahielo
11-10-2008, 10:08 PM
Congratulations, *Uncle Luis*~~:hug:
Boy or girl??

Luna
PS. Roger's forehand fell apart today. :(

It looked like his movement was ok, though....some terrific ralleys!!

Flibbertigibbet
11-10-2008, 11:24 PM
argh, very shitty result to come home to.
Well, there's always the AO... :lol: I don't think there's much to expect from Roger in best-of-three anymore, he can't do it, day-in-day-out as he used to a couple years ago -- anyway, that was just crazy.

Sunset of Age
11-11-2008, 12:00 AM
I don't think there's much to expect from Roger in best-of-three anymore,

Indeed. And just when Roger starts to have trouble winning best-of-three sets matches, the format of the TMC final is changed to... you guessed it. What a coincidence, grrrr. :rolleyes: :mad:

But it's not done yet. I try and keep up good hopes for his upcoming two matches. :)

Arkulari
11-11-2008, 12:09 AM
gosh, I'm still SO angry I can't really comment :shout:

clever1980
11-11-2008, 12:55 AM
gosh, I'm still SO angry I can't really comment :shout:

187227 Hope he play well from Wednesday on...

Corey Feldman
11-11-2008, 02:15 AM
all these hours later, with a sleep and with dinner

and i still cant digest this bullshit result today

he even said his back was ok, would actually seem fitting after this season that he should end with another shocking tournament

and would be nothing more shocking than him bombing out of the TMC group stage - not even Sampras ever done that.

Arkulari
11-11-2008, 02:57 AM
he tanked the match he couldn't tank on his group, now he has to beat Muzza (who's been a bit of an indoor god lately) and Roddick (which theoretically shouldn't be a problem, but remember Dubai :help: )

I'm still SO ANGRY :shout: :shout: :shout:

nobama
11-11-2008, 10:35 AM
he tanked the match he couldn't tank on his group, now he has to beat Muzza (who's been a bit of an indoor god lately) and Roddick (which theoretically shouldn't be a problem, but remember Dubai :help: )

I'm still SO ANGRY :shout: :shout: :shout:You think Roger tanked this match?

nobama
11-11-2008, 10:40 AM
all these hours later, with a sleep and with dinner

and i still cant digest this bullshit result today

he even said his back was ok, would actually seem fitting after this season that he should end with another shocking tournament

and would be nothing more shocking than him bombing out of the TMC group stage - not even Sampras ever done that.The good thing is he said his back is OK so now he can go full out the rest of the way.

Remember last year? Lost to Gonzo, beat Davydenko (although not playing great) and then spanked Roddick, Nadal and Ferrer. Good thing for Roger is he's playing Murray last. So hopefully (for me) he can beat Roddick and Murray's dead tired when he has to play him (or Roger's found his form by then).

juninhOH
11-11-2008, 11:41 AM
I don't think you get tired playing day yes day no in the MC, especially being 3 sets..

nobama
11-11-2008, 11:50 AM
I don't think you get tired playing day yes day no in the MC, especially being 3 sets..Maybe not from the tournament itself, but the long season catching up. Of course this could affect Roger too...

Sunset of Age
11-11-2008, 01:07 PM
You think Roger tanked this match?

I can't believe anyone seriously thinking that Roger 'tanked' this. Okay, he said he didn't play on full force (which was obvious for all to see :rolleyes:, but still :silly: - this is no practice match, Rodge! :() - but that's something very different to 'tanking' -wanna see a nice real tankjob, you should've watched Muzza's second set against the Duck yesterday. :lol:

Remember last year? Lost to Gonzo, beat Davydenko (although not playing great) and then spanked Roddick, Nadal and Ferrer. Good thing for Roger is he's playing Murray last. So hopefully (for me) he can beat Roddick and Murray's dead tired when he has to play him (or Roger's found his form by then).

Yeah, the remembrance of last year is one of the straws I'm clutching onto as well. But it was it bit different there, I think - Gonzo played really on his top level in that match against Roger and beat him fair and square. I know some people will dub me a Simon-hater when I say this... but in yesterday's match, Roger beat himself.
Well I don't know what I prefer to be honest. The former I think. :o

SUKTUEN
11-11-2008, 01:30 PM
GOD please Bless Roger can healthy to play his Best tennis again in TMC!!!!

ALLEZZZZZZZZZZZ Roger!!!:bowdown::bowdown::bounce:

juninhOH
11-11-2008, 01:32 PM
when will he play tomorrow?

juninhOH
11-11-2008, 01:33 PM
btw flibbertigibet = lekha? if yes, do you have your avie in a bigger picture? :D

my friend is making a really nice banner for me, like in the history of tennis in a court, and i have to have pictures from that angle, like the 'horizontal' angle of a court.

SUKTUEN
11-11-2008, 02:29 PM
Roger and Andy will play at 8:00 pm local time!!

Rita
11-11-2008, 02:33 PM
had no idea where to post it
November 10, 2008

Roger Federer

SHANGHAI, CHINA

G. SIMON/R. Federer
4-6, 6-4, 6-3

THE MODERATOR: Questions, please.

Q. How much was your back a problem today?
ROGER FEDERER: Well, actually no pain. I was happy the way it held up. You know, I was sort of skeptical going into the match because the practice sessions haven't been hard at all. I really tried to not push it at all. So I was actually happy that the back felt okay.

Q. Can you talk about, is there something he does in those two matches that you played that particularly bothers you, how it happens?
ROGER FEDERER: Well, I mean, the better you play, the better he plays, you know. And he's quite a unique player and he makes you work hard and runs very well. Yeah, he's unusual to play against.

Q. You're up a set and a break and everything seems okay. What happens at that moment? Do you feel you let a little bit down, the pressure?
ROGER FEDERER: Geez, I don't know. I don't remember the break I got particularly well. Definitely today shots maybe I miss I normally don't miss. I think that's just lack of practice and just uncertainty where my back was today.
All this comes together at the end the day, sometimes against top players it's not enough. Now at least I have a match under my belt, especially three sets, and I hope I can play better in the next match.

Q. You were in this situation last year, weren't you, too, losing your first match. You still got plenty to play for. Just your thoughts moving forward?
ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I'm just going to go match by match. That's the only way to go here anyway. But it's great. It's the only tournament where I really have a chance after losing first rounds. So I'm, again, happy it happened here.

Q. How do you compare today's match with the Toronto one?
ROGER FEDERER: Toronto match? Very similar (smiling). I lost both. Both three sets, and I lost both. Could have won both but lost. So very similar.

Q. How is your back today? Were you troubled by that at all?
ROGER FEDERER: Back was fine.

Q. You had less than 50% first serves and your overhead sometimes you had problems. Was that unconsciously you were thinking a little bit, you were careful with the back?
ROGER FEDERER: Sure, I mean, I had matches in Basel I was serving 15 aces. Here I was serving three aces. Definitely it was a factor today, you know, the serve. Like I said, it was just being caution and then on top of that just not feeling it well. I haven't been basically serving all week, except maybe 50 serves in total, you know, the last nine days.
That's what sometimes happens. The shoulder gets a little rusty and things don't work out the way you want it. I still expect myself to have more serves in. I didn't serve full blast especially from the start. So I don't know if that cost me the match. But I mean, I was still in the position to win. It was a pity I couldn't get to the finish line before him.

Q. As you pointed out, this a unique tournament because you get to come back even if you lost. And last year you were in a similar situation. How difficult is it to put aside this loss and then kind of like be up for the next match?
ROGER FEDERER: I thought it was particularly difficult last year. You know, I was really disappointed after losing against Gonzalez. I thought I was the better player out there. I don't want to say he got lucky on a few backhands. I just really thought it was one of those losses that was just so unnecessary.
But coming into the locker room instead of maybe winning in straight, because I think I lost the second set in a breaker, and I had all the chances, and end up losing like 7-5 in the third. So it was like, What just happened? I couldn't really figure it out.
It was hard for that night. I was really sort of disappointed. On top of that, because I never been in that situation before, so I didn't know how I reacted, except at the Olympic Games when I lost sort of the silver medal match against Tommy Haas in 2000 and then I ended up losing against Di Pasquale as well the next match. I remember I couldn't get up for it basically.
Last year was difficult. I think this year will be more easy because I've already gone through it just a year ago. I think that's going to help me out.
I'm definitely in a more positive mindset today just because my back feels good. I was, like I said, a little worried coming in. So that sort of goes into a positive direction. I hope I can play much better the next match.

Q. I'd like to hear some of your comments on the election of the new president of ATP. There was rumors one of the nominees is Larry Scott, who is the president of the WTA. He has a new plan to reunite the ATP and WTA to be one tour.
ROGER FEDERER: Many people have many ideas at the moment. We'll see what happens in the next week. It's not really the thing I want to talk about right now.

Sunset of Age
11-11-2008, 03:10 PM
had no idea where to post it

Well, it's a post-match presser of a match in the Shanghai tournament - but I do think it should be posted in the 'Roger Articles'-thread (if it isn't there already). Don't know if I'm correct about that. Thanks for posting anyways!

Q. You were in this situation last year, weren't you, too, losing your first match. You still got plenty to play for. Just your thoughts moving forward?
ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I'm just going to go match by match. That's the only way to go here anyway. But it's great. It's the only tournament where I really have a chance after losing first rounds. So I'm, again, happy it happened here.

Always keeping up his good spirits... Roger :hug:.

Corey Feldman
11-11-2008, 03:46 PM
how OBVIOUS was it he was gonna describe this as one of those matches he could have won

Corey Feldman
11-11-2008, 03:52 PM
Not Before 6:00 PM
A Murray (GBR) vs G Simon (FRA)
Not Before 8:00 PM
R Federer (SUI) vs A Roddick (USA

Roger on 2nd ... and Murray-Roger win (both 2-0 sets if possible) tomorrow in this group would be very helpful

Sunset of Age
11-11-2008, 04:16 PM
how OBVIOUS was it he was gonna describe this as one of those matches he could have won

:lol: - yeah, can't help it, but if Rafa has his way of spouting absolute :bs: once in a while, Roger himself knows how to play this game as well...

Roger on 2nd ... and Murray-Roger win (both 2-0 sets if possible) tomorrow in this group would be very helpful

Keeping all my fingers, toes and other body parts crossed for that to happen... :scared:

If Roger loses his match tomorrow, chances of us seeing him sink to the #3 spot in the rankings at the end of this week are getting very, very close. :(

clever1980
11-11-2008, 08:17 PM
Hello! everyone!

:lol: - yeah, can't help it, but if Rafa has his way of spouting absolute :bs: once in a while, Roger himself knows how to play this game as well... (

Isn't why we love him (them), no? :inlove::inlove:

Keeping all my fingers, toes and other body parts crossed for that to happen... :scared:

If Roger loses his match tomorrow, chances of us seeing him sink to the #3 spot in the rankings at the end of this week are getting very, very close. :(

:scared::scared: I don't know what to expect at this point but to hope for the best.

elessar
11-11-2008, 10:33 PM
Unbelievable, losing to Simon TWICE in a row after being up a set and a break AGAIN.
All this year is missing is another embarassing loss to the #1 pigeon and a RR exit :yeah:

lunahielo
11-11-2008, 10:45 PM
Oh my, elessar~~~~~~~~The pic in your post!! :eek::eek::sad:

This ? is for anyone and everyone~~
The site says Roger plays at 6:00 AM tomorrow. (Wednesday)
Is this USA time, and if so...Is it Eastern time or Central?

I want to set the alarm to get up and watch it.. (cheer him on):):)

I appreciate any answer.
Thanks,
Luna

Federerhingis
11-11-2008, 11:04 PM
I'm definitely in a more positive mindset today just because my back feels good. I was, like I said, a little worried coming in. So that sort of goes into a positive direction. I hope I can play much better the next match.
.


This is at least encouraging and that he's looking at the bright side of such an encounter, to put in better terms. He knows well he should have won but didn't. Props to Simon for doing it for the second time, it's sort of like the same situation last year with Guillermo Cañas. He should definitely have won in miami but didn't. Players like Cañas who are supreme defenders and actually are fighters can outfight Roger who still isn't a natural fighter. :o He's gotten better but still can be silly and gives up pretty much. :tape:

:bigwave: to all. :wazzup:

clever1980
11-11-2008, 11:08 PM
Oh my, elessar~~~~~~~~The pic in your post!! :eek::eek::sad:

This ? is for anyone and everyone~~
The site says Roger plays at 6:00 AM tomorrow. (Wednesday)
Is this USA time, and if so...Is it Eastern time or Central?

I want to set the alarm to get up and watch it.. (cheer him on):):)

I appreciate any answer.
Thanks,
Luna

If Roger plays at 8:00 PM Shanghai time, it will be 7:00 AM Eastern Time, Luna.

lunahielo
11-12-2008, 01:17 AM
If Roger plays at 8:00 PM Shanghai time, it will be 7:00 AM Eastern Time, Luna.

Thank you very much, clever1980 :hug:

Luna

clever1980
11-12-2008, 01:27 AM
Thank you very much, clever1980 :hug:

Luna

:)

Hope you could watch Roger wins.. :wavey:

Sunset of Age
11-12-2008, 01:43 AM
Isn't why we love him (them), no? :inlove::inlove:

I DO, that's for sure. Both of them. :angel: :lol:
Send us - your fans - more NONSENSE, Rog & Raf! :mad: :mad: :mad: :silly: ;)

:scared::scared: I don't know what to expect at this point but to hope for the best.

Same here... same here indeed! :scared:

Unbelievable, losing to Simon TWICE in a row after being up a set and a break AGAIN.
All this year is missing is another embarassing loss to the #1 pigeon and a RR exit :yeah:

Jeebus yeah. You are so right about that. :help:
Bah. :mad: :sad:

IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN!

(repeat after me. :angel:)

clever1980
11-12-2008, 02:06 AM
I DO, that's for sure. Both of them. :angel: :lol:
Send us - your fans - more NONSENSE, Rog & Raf! :mad: :mad: :mad: :silly: ;)

LOL Karin. I don't mind really. They are humen. Regardless of their occasional arrogant remarks, or silly talks, I still think highly of them. Roger has brought me so much joy watching tennis. :worship: I could take a lot more :bs:. :)




Same here... same here indeed! :scared:


Unbelievable, losing to Simon TWICE in a row after being up a set and a break AGAIN.
All this year is missing is another embarassing loss to the #1 pigeon and a RR exit :yeah:

Jeebus yeah. You are so right about that. :help:
Bah. :mad: :sad:

IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN!
(repeat after me. :angel:)

I am going to bed now and hope to wake up to good news. :worship:

IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN!IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN!IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN!IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! :wavey:

Sunset of Age
11-12-2008, 02:22 AM
LOL Karin. I don't mind really. They are humen. Regardless of their occasional arrogant remarks, or silly talks, I still think highly of them. Roger has brought me so much joy watching tennis. :worship: I could take a lot more :bs:. :)

Same with me. I always say that one loves a person DESPITE that person's mistakes... not disregarding them, as that means 'idolizing' that person IMHO. And that I think is something completely different... ;)

I am going to bed now and hope to wake up to good news. :worship:

IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN!IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN!IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN!IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! IT's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN! :wavey:

REPEAT! :lol: :worship: :worship: :worship:

Well I'll be around to see it all happen live tomorrow morning... :armed:

BEST OF LUCK ROGER!!! Do a genuine Duck Hunt, please!!!

guinevere_79
11-12-2008, 08:48 AM
Isn’t the best scenario for Roger is for Simon to win over Murray? That way, Roger’s fate will be entirely in his hands. He only has to win his remaining two matches to qualify (sets and games won wouldn’t matter anymore). Of course, that’s easier said than done. If Murray wins today, but loses to Roger, and Roger wins over Roddick and Simon wins over Roddick, all of them will be tied at 2 wins apiece. I don’t want that to happen.

tim1987
11-12-2008, 09:03 AM
Roddick has withdrawn with an ankle injury and Fed is playing Stephanek instead!

FairWeatherFan
11-12-2008, 09:22 AM
Come on King! :)

Flibbertigibbet
11-12-2008, 09:25 AM
Argh, Djokovic qualified for the semis... I hate that he has a shot of becoming #2 over Roger... but I guess he deserves it this year. :sad:

Eden
11-12-2008, 09:33 AM
Really sorry for ARod that he got injured. Hopefully it's not that serious and he recovers quickly.

Well, we have to see what this replacement will mean for Roger in the end.

Daniel
11-12-2008, 09:56 AM
Roger go out and beat Stepanek

Vamos Roger :bounce: :kiss:

clever1980
11-12-2008, 09:59 AM
Some one posted this youtube of Roger's UEs from Simon match. I think he is still not feeling right either. :sad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNpiEa5BswY

didadida
11-12-2008, 10:01 AM
C'monnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

nobama
11-12-2008, 10:31 AM
Hmm...I'm surprised Roddick withdrew. Murray's up a set and a break. If he's going to win I hope he does it in straights.

didadida
11-12-2008, 10:31 AM
Murray wins the first set 6-4 and leads 3-1 in the second set

Corey Feldman
11-12-2008, 10:39 AM
Isn’t the best scenario for Roger is for Simon to win over Murray? That way, Roger’s fate will be entirely in his hands. He only has to win his remaining two matches to qualify (sets and games won wouldn’t matter anymore). Of course, that’s easier said than done. If Murray wins today, but loses to Roger, and Roger wins over Roddick and Simon wins over Roddick, all of them will be tied at 2 wins apiece. I don’t want that to happen.basically Fed needs to win both matches, simple as that

a Simon 0-2 loss today would help a little

Diprosalic
11-12-2008, 10:55 AM
so fed is pretty much out of the tournament right?

i dont see him winning against murray and i dont see simon loses against stepanek

Corey Feldman
11-12-2008, 10:56 AM
GSM A.Murray

what does it say that in between a 3-6 5-7 loss to Roddick and 4-6 2-6 loss to Murray indoors - Simon could still beat Fed?

lunahielo
11-12-2008, 11:01 AM
Allez Roger!!

Herdwick
11-12-2008, 11:08 AM
Argh, Djokovic qualified for the semis... I hate that he has a shot of becoming #2 over Roger... but I guess he deserves it this year. :sad:

Pigs on the runway and cleared for take off.

As a Nole fan let me set your mind at rest. Think he's got to win TMC to do it and having watched his match yesterday those pigs would need to develop golden wings.

Just dropped in to wish Roger all the very best today and Friday. And that introduction was :o

didadida
11-12-2008, 11:12 AM
he choosed to return serve,this is weird

Rita
11-12-2008, 11:12 AM
Pigs on the runway and cleared for take off.

As a Nole fan let me set your mind at rest. Think he's got to win TMC to do it and having watched his match yesterday those pigs would need to develop golden wings.

Just dropped in to wish Roger all the very best today and Friday. And that introduction was :o

:wavey: thanks
he's gonna need lots of luck indeed:o

didadida
11-12-2008, 11:12 AM
maybe he dosent feel good with his serve yet

Corey Feldman
11-12-2008, 11:13 AM
:kiss: Herdwick - love it when you make surprise appearences

ready for a Nole - Murray final in a few days ;)

didadida
11-12-2008, 11:13 AM
15-30

didadida
11-12-2008, 11:14 AM
15-40

2bp plz dont waste them

didadida
11-12-2008, 11:15 AM
and a break
1-0

didadida
11-12-2008, 11:16 AM
30 all

didadida
11-12-2008, 11:18 AM
2-0

Herdwick
11-12-2008, 11:19 AM
:wavey: Well it would be nice and a pretty much no-lose one for me.:D Although you have softened somewhat toward my boy - now don't deny it...

But we've got to get Roger into the SF first and on yesterday's form Nole would be unlikely to beat him or Simon. But my pigs remain in readiness.

didadida
11-12-2008, 11:27 AM
got broken
2 all

Corey Feldman
11-12-2008, 11:29 AM
just one of the worst games ive ever seen him play

i cannot believe how bad he is again

i think his days are over

Herdwick
11-12-2008, 11:32 AM
:hug:

didadida
11-12-2008, 11:35 AM
he is not looking good today

Jaz
11-12-2008, 11:36 AM
Simply horrible...

EnriqueIG8
11-12-2008, 11:44 AM
Radek is stepping it up. Rog not looking great out there :(
C'mon Rocket Rog!

rwn
11-12-2008, 11:50 AM
He's playing worse than yesterday :o

didadida
11-12-2008, 11:55 AM
there is something wrong with him

didadida
11-12-2008, 11:57 AM
many many errors is it becouse of his back or what?

Jaz
11-12-2008, 11:58 AM
Just terrible, doesn't look like the back is an issue.

Diprosalic
11-12-2008, 12:00 PM
if he drops a set it looks even worse for him. doesnt matter if he wins this or not.

juninhOH
11-12-2008, 12:02 PM
ye roger looks so uninterested in the match, its weird.

Venle
11-12-2008, 12:05 PM
I'm not seeing the match, seems like I ain't missing anything? :o

Corey Feldman
11-12-2008, 12:05 PM
many many errors is it becouse of his back or what?well there is no real reason for it .. just been like this for a while

he's just not the same player anymore

he can still have great days, but not every match like in 2005, 2006

Rita
11-12-2008, 12:07 PM
the body language is absolutly terrible

nobama
11-12-2008, 12:07 PM
Roger just does not look himself out there at all. I hate seeing him this way. :sad:

didadida
11-12-2008, 12:09 PM
wins the first set but it doesnt look good

Jaz
11-12-2008, 12:09 PM
well there is no real reason for it .. just been like this for a while

he's just not the same player anymore

he can still have great days, but not every match like in 2005, 2006

I think it's something do with his confidence, and secondly his match fitness, usually, if there is a 5 set tourney like a grand-slam he improves after each game. However, these matches don't seem to work out for him. Too little time in between, 3-set wins.

didadida
11-12-2008, 12:09 PM
Roger just does not look himself out there at all. I hate seeing him this way. :sad:

me too it really hurts :sad:

nobama
11-12-2008, 12:09 PM
Roger just won the set and there was no fist pump no nothing. :sad:

nobama
11-12-2008, 12:12 PM
Body language tells me something is not right - whether it's physical or mental. He's not getting upset or barking at himself when he hits a bad shot. He wins the TB and no emotion at all. :sad:

mangoes
11-12-2008, 12:15 PM
I really don't see what you guys are chatting about...........Roger looks just fine to me. He doesn't seem to be worried about Stepanek and is doing what he needs to do, and nothing more, to win this match:shrug: :shrug:

didadida
11-12-2008, 12:17 PM
Body language tells me something is not right - whether it's physical or mental. He's not getting upset or barking at himself when he hits a bad shot. He wins the TB and no emotion at all. :sad:

yes he looks so negative,and looks like he is expecting all those errors :sad:

Venle
11-12-2008, 12:18 PM
Body language tells me something is not right - whether it's physical or mental. He's not getting upset or barking at himself when he hits a bad shot. He wins the TB and no emotion at all. :sad:

That 'numbness' sounds awful to me :awww:

nobama
11-12-2008, 12:27 PM
I'd love to know what's so interesting on the floor that Roger keeps looking down there.