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Sunday Order of play

nitsansh
07-25-2004, 01:26 PM
CHAMPIONSHIP MATCHES
Stadium Court
Matches Start At:
12:30 PM
SINGLES FINAL
Andy RODDICK (USA)vs Nicolas KIEFER (GER)
followed by
DOUBLES FINAL
Jordan KERR (AUS)/Jim THOMAS (USA)vs Wayne BLACK (ZIM)/Kevin ULLYETT (ZIM)

Neely
07-25-2004, 04:34 PM
:clap2: Let's go Kiwi!!! :D :D

Deboogle!.
07-25-2004, 05:07 PM
Oops... not looking too good for a while :o

http://www.w3.weather.com/weather/map/USIN0305?from=LAPmaps&name=index_large_animated&day=1

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 05:22 PM
cmon nicolas

TheBoiledEgg
07-25-2004, 05:29 PM
not rain :fiery:

go Kiwi :)
what sort of payout will i get :o
Roddick $60 at 6/5 (72)
or Kiwi $5 at 25/1 (125)

so about the same really

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 05:34 PM
Come on Andy

johnny
07-25-2004, 05:34 PM
is there a delay?

Deboogle!.
07-25-2004, 05:45 PM
yea it's raining.. scroll up I posted the link to the radar

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 05:50 PM
this is a common question but who will it be better for? nicolas or andy?

Deboogle!.
07-25-2004, 06:01 PM
I don't think it'll really matter. Andy's had his fair share of rain delays and wind and chilly weather in the past month so he should obviously be able to deal with it and I wouldn't think Kiefer should have a problem with the waiting game either?

johnny
07-25-2004, 06:04 PM
any idea of when it will start?

Tricky_Forehand
07-25-2004, 06:10 PM
If the wind becomes a factor then I'll worry. Nicolas is not a good wind player with that damn toss.

I'm sort of laughing at NBC. So much for commercial breaks at 1 ALL & 4 ALL :lol:

johnny
07-25-2004, 06:11 PM
still raining?

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 06:20 PM
40-15 roddick

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 06:20 PM
they are playin!!!

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 06:21 PM
game roddick

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 06:21 PM
1-0 roddick on serve

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 06:22 PM
1 all

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 06:23 PM
game kiefer 1-1

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 06:25 PM
game roddick 2-1*

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 06:26 PM
2-1 roddick

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 06:27 PM
come on andy break him here

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 06:27 PM
i hope NBC at least tries to show it live :rolleyes:

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 06:31 PM
3-1 roddick
roddick to serve

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 06:34 PM
4-1 roddick
kiefer to serve

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 06:36 PM
:yeah: andy come on!!

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 06:37 PM
4-2 roddick
roddick to serve

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 06:37 PM
roddick *4-2

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 06:39 PM
5-2 roddick
kiefer to serve

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 06:39 PM
roddick *30-30
come on!!

5-2 :D

Björki
07-25-2004, 06:43 PM
komm jetzt Kiwi :D

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 06:43 PM
2 sps!!!

Björki
07-25-2004, 06:45 PM
vjörkfish I didn't know you like Andy!?

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 06:46 PM
is it raining again?

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 06:47 PM
vjörkfish I didn't know you like Andy!?

i started after wimbie

Björki
07-25-2004, 06:48 PM
Björkfish good taste :D

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 06:50 PM
im guessing its raining..

TheBoiledEgg
07-25-2004, 06:51 PM
Kiwi :(

Siobhan....... bad move :p
liking ducks ???
i thought u was more of a "wabbit" person ;)

elusive
07-25-2004, 06:53 PM
andy is my #1 too. he is just too likeable:D

another rain delay? how infuriating.
set pt for andyy!

Neely
07-25-2004, 06:55 PM
no chance for Kiefer if he can't hold serve
he did win his last matches all because he could break his opponents and come back into the match, but against Roddick it's a completely different task if you once lost your own serve :banghead:

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 06:55 PM
i hope it rains for a long time so we can see it live on NBC

Neely
07-25-2004, 06:57 PM
look at the points: 24 to 20 in favor of Roddick

Roddick is leading 5-2 and 40-30 and despite leading three games, he has just made four more points than Kiefer up to this stage.

That shows me that Andy made the big points so far and that Kiefer isn't that bad.

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 06:58 PM
6-2 roddick

roddick to serve

Neely
07-25-2004, 07:02 PM
1-0* Roddick

this one is going too fast

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 07:02 PM
6-2 roddick
1-0 roddick
kiefer to serve

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 07:04 PM
6-2 roddick
1-1

roddick to serve

Björki
07-25-2004, 07:04 PM
come on Kiwi. you can't lose the fourth final.
(as much as I love Andy)

Neely
07-25-2004, 07:05 PM
no chance
Roddick's serve just too good

30-0
40-0

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 07:07 PM
6-2 roddick
2-1 roddick

kiefer to serve

Tricky_Forehand
07-25-2004, 07:07 PM
I thought McEnroe was bad with all his drooling over Junior but Jim Courier has taken the cake so far. Hell, going by him, might as well given Roddick the trophy right out of the gate instead of playing the match.

And his stupid comment about Kiwi using the towels to protect his equipment from the possible rain? Kiwi does that rain, sun, clouds...whatever. I had to leave for a few minutes and came back to hear Courier then talking about the "old Kiwi" and giving wrong impressions of him :banghead:

I only hope that McEnroe & Courier never commentate a Junior match. It would be sickening!!

TheBoiledEgg
07-25-2004, 07:08 PM
Kiwi :rolleyes:
you're supposed to be a good returner

do something :mad:

Björki
07-25-2004, 07:08 PM
Neely do you have TV coverage?

Tricky_Forehand
07-25-2004, 07:08 PM
no chance
Roddick's serve just too good

30-0
40-0

Nice that you have even a little amount of belief in Kiwi :rolleyes:

elusive
07-25-2004, 07:09 PM
yep andy is playing well today
19 winners so far. :)

and i do agree kiefer is not that bad. maybe his luck is just running out today.

Björki
07-25-2004, 07:09 PM
come kiwi HOLD.

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 07:10 PM
:yeah: ANDY!!!

Neely
07-25-2004, 07:10 PM
I thought McEnroe was bad with all his drooling over Junior but Jim Courier has taken the cake so far. Hell, going by him, might as well given Roddick the trophy right out of the gate instead of playing the match.
I think you can't blame them. It's an American channel, an American is playing against somebody from another country, so it's clear that they "drool over" their countryman. Would be the same with any other television from other countries, too.

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 07:10 PM
BP!!!

Björki
07-25-2004, 07:10 PM
BP Andy

Neely
07-25-2004, 07:14 PM
Nice that you have even a little amount of belief in Kiwi :rolleyes:
yeah :rolleyes:
believe that I would ike nothing more than being more positive, but as much as I adore and love Kiwi, I tend to see that facts and these are that Roddick is cruising along in his service games and Kiwi got broken twice in the 1st set, with heaving problems again right at the beginning of the 2nd set serving at *1-2

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 07:16 PM
6-2 roddick
3-1 roddick

roddick to serve

Björki
07-25-2004, 07:16 PM
3-1 Roddick

Neely
07-25-2004, 07:16 PM
break Roddick
*3-1

this match is gone, unless a wonder happens :banghead:

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 07:16 PM
and he breaks :D

elusive
07-25-2004, 07:18 PM
yay go andy! :)

any of u watching the match right now? darn i dont have tv coverage.

Neely
07-25-2004, 07:19 PM
4-1* Roddick

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 07:19 PM
6-2 roddick
4-1 roddick

kiefer to serve

TheBoiledEgg
07-25-2004, 07:19 PM
Kiwi, master of making finals and also a Master of doing Nothing in them :smash:

JMG
07-25-2004, 07:20 PM
:mad: :sad:

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 07:20 PM
break him again andy

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 07:21 PM
6-2 roddick
4-2 roddick

roddick to serve

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 07:22 PM
love service game for kiefer!

Neely
07-25-2004, 07:22 PM
*4-2 Roddick

johnny
07-25-2004, 07:22 PM
is this 3 set or 5 set?

Neely
07-25-2004, 07:22 PM
is this 3 set or 5 set?
best of three

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 07:23 PM
why do we have 2/3 people saying the scores?
surely everyones watching the scoreboard?!?

johnny
07-25-2004, 07:23 PM
thanx

Neely
07-25-2004, 07:23 PM
5-2* Roddick

elusive
07-25-2004, 07:23 PM
Kiwi, master of making finals and also a Master of doing Nothing in them :smash:

:D poor kiwi.

but sorry i love andy too much to wish for another result

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 07:23 PM
love game in return by andy!! 1 more game now :D

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 07:24 PM
6-2 roddick
5-2 roddick

kiefer to serve

TheBoiledEgg
07-25-2004, 07:24 PM
is this 3 set or 5 set?

Johnny why u asking
its in the US
as if they'd make any finals best of 5 unless they were FORCED to :rolleyes:

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 07:26 PM
6-2 roddick
5-2 roddick

kiefer to serve

1 person please...not 2 or 3 we are all looking at the scoreboard, im guessing :rolleyes:

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 07:27 PM
2 more points andy!!

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 07:29 PM
6-2 roddick
5-3 roddick

roddick to serve for the championship

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 07:29 PM
serve it out now andy

Neely
07-25-2004, 07:29 PM
*5-3 Roddick

one more game?! :rolleyes:

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 07:30 PM
pff fine :rolleyes:

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 07:30 PM
3 mps!!!

Tricky_Forehand
07-25-2004, 07:31 PM
yeah :rolleyes:
believe that I would ike nothing more than being more positive, but as much as I adore and love Kiwi, I tend to see that facts and these are that Roddick is cruising along in his service games and Kiwi got broken twice in the 1st set, with heaving problems again right at the beginning of the 2nd set serving at *1-2

You're also a fan of Junior so I doubt that you have a problem with him winning right now.

And if you have belief in someone you shouldn't let the "facts" of the match dictate your faith. The "facts" of Bogie's 1st set in Toronto would've shown to anyone else that Saulnier was going to win. But...what happened? Bogie won in 3.

Do I have the same level of belief in Kiwi as Bogie? No. Because Alex is separate from everyone but i'm also not going to cheer Kiwi on in his guestbook and turn around and doubt him elsewhere.

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-25-2004, 07:31 PM
6-2 6-3 roddick :mad:

:mad: nicolas :fiery:

Aleksa's Laydee
07-25-2004, 07:31 PM
:yeah: ANDY!!!! 6-2 6-3

Neely
07-25-2004, 07:31 PM
Roddick def. Kiefer 6-2 6-3

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

no chance for Kiwi in this one :smash:
Roddick's game just too good and Kiefer got broken too many times

TheBoiledEgg
07-25-2004, 07:33 PM
Kiwi :rolleyes: :( pfffffff

elusive
07-25-2004, 07:34 PM
andy was just thrusting down his aces and winners in the last game.
what a beautiful flourish to the match. :)

great job andy.

JMG
07-25-2004, 07:35 PM
normally, no one should have so big problems to hold his serve against Roddick! He has not that good return.

Kiwi :sad:

Neely
07-25-2004, 07:37 PM
You're also a fan of Junior so I doubt that you have a problem with him winning right now.

And if you have belief in someone you shouldn't let the "facts" of the match dictate your faith. The "facts" of Bogie's 1st set in Toronto would've shown to anyone else that Saulnier was going to win. But...what happened? Bogie won in 3.

Do I have the same level of belief in Kiwi as Bogie? No. Because Alex is separate from everyone but i'm also not going to cheer Kiwi on in his guestbook and turn around and doubt him elsewhere.

lol, believe me that I would have loved to see Kiwi take this :rolleyes:

but why living in a soap bubble when I see that Roddick is just too good in this match and that everything is going too fast against the favor of Kiwi.

Well, I mean, you don't need to turn around anything, Kiwi did not even get close in this match and it doesn't make sense to me to think anything else: Kiwi had two great week and I'm glad about that, but today somebody else was better and I have to accept that.

That does not have to do that I doubt him (lol, what a stupid comment), it is just a matter of reality that he had no chance today.

Tricky_Forehand
07-25-2004, 07:37 PM
I think you can't blame them. It's an American channel, an American is playing against somebody from another country, so it's clear that they "drool over" their countryman. Would be the same with any other television from other countries, too.

No, there is supporting the Americans and then there is going overboard. There is a network here called USA network that covers the US OPEN and they give most of the players the same level of respect.

What Courier is doing and what McEnroe does is very overboard.

I realize that I'm entering into Roddick Hell and the peace of not dealing with Roddick fans is over till September. The peace was nice while it lasted. If only he would stay away from my favorites for the rest of the summer...he won't infect my posts.

Kiwi may have lost but this is a hell of an accomplishment to make these finals considering what last year was like.

Deboogle!.
07-25-2004, 07:40 PM
JMG, Andy actually hit several very nice return winners, especially in the games he broke. No he's not a great returner... but um.... Kiefer isn't a great server either no offense to him.

He upped his level from yesterday a LOT, he stood much farther in the court and had many many fewer bad errors than yesterday.

:woohoo: :aparty: Great performance Andy.... :dance: :yippee:

Tricky_Forehand
07-25-2004, 07:41 PM
Still watching on tape delay...and they showed Thomas telling Kiwi to "Fight!"

THAT is what was lacking today. And THAT was what i was afraid of. He needed to fight all the way through and not just once in a while.

Still a great week!! :bigclap:

Neely
07-25-2004, 07:46 PM
but um.... Kiefer isn't a great server either no offense to him.
strange coincidence that he plays best indoor and on fast surfaces, isn't it :rolleyes: :banghead:

don't measure the serve of Roddick which is unique among all players to the one of Kiefer. Kiefer still has one of the better serves of all players and can hit around 210-220km/h.

Deboogle!.
07-25-2004, 07:50 PM
OH I didn't mean to say that Kiefer didn't have a good serve...sorry for the misunderstanding!!

but compared to Ljubicic who he faced yesterday, I think he had an especially easier time returning Kiefer's today if that makes sense... I mean he was returning from just behind the baseline today, where yesterday he was many YARDS behind the baseline! He hit at least 3 really nice return winners today (That's a lot for someone like him), and this was certainly the difference because Andy didn't really serve that well today at all (below 50% first serves in and even worse than that in the 2nd set).

RonE
07-25-2004, 08:46 PM
Well, it seems that the bulldozer man has struck, yet again leaving behind him a trail of destruction on the hard stuff.

SonicCRO
07-25-2004, 11:31 PM
Roddick$$$ :worship: :wavey: