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********* My Turn Now, please? :-D Roger to Rock The Swedes in Stockholm! *********

Sunset of Age
09-09-2008, 02:19 AM
I hope I will be able to send him good vibes with starting the thread on his NEXT tournament.

With his FANTASTIC VICTORY at the US Open, may the Tennis Gods continue smiling at you, Roger! :D

EDIT: Oops. He'll be playing the Davis Cup Tie first...

Venle
09-09-2008, 05:11 AM
Good luck Roger for the tournament in my neighbor country! ;)

robinhood
09-09-2008, 05:29 AM
:D:D:D:D:D

Yay, GO FED!

By the way, Stupid Dream, may I suggest that you put one of those ******** around the title of this thread? :D
It just seems to make it easier to spot a tournament thread.
Or my eyes have become too spoiled!

Art&Soul
09-09-2008, 05:34 AM
And *** bring luck to ROGER too ;) Good luck ROGI, play your best there :angel:

bokehlicious
09-09-2008, 09:24 AM
EDIT: Oops. He'll be playing the Davis Cup Tie first...

Yep, and it's confirmed that he'll play and Stan too :cool: can't wait to be there :bounce:, and Roger said he's looking forward to meet the Lausanne crowd again since he enjoyed it big time back in 2004 against France :D

didadida
09-09-2008, 09:34 AM
Good luck our champ win this one too :D

Sunset of Age
09-09-2008, 09:49 AM
:D:D:D:D:D

Yay, GO FED!

By the way, Stupid Dream, may I suggest that you put one of those ******** around the title of this thread? :D
It just seems to make it easier to spot a tournament thread.
Or my eyes have become too spoiled!

Ah, yes, thanks for reminding me. :D

EDIT: How???? (I'm not blond, but I can be rather stupid at times... :lol:)

EDIT#2: Never mind, I found out. Apparently there is still a bit left of my brain after the partying last night. :angel:

stroopery
09-09-2008, 10:46 AM
Yep, and it's confirmed that he'll play and Stan too :cool: can't wait to be there :bounce:, and Roger said he's looking forward to meet the Lausanne crowd again since he enjoyed it big time back in 2004 against France :D


oh my god yes!!!

now I need to look for streams for this. please god let there be one good stream please

RFederer90
09-09-2008, 11:40 AM
I hope it'll be his 4th title this year!!!!!!!

Go Roger, the best of all time!!

SUKTUEN
09-09-2008, 02:18 PM
ALLEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Roger!!!!:bigclap:

Sunset of Age
09-24-2008, 01:38 PM
* BUMP * Only twelve days to go, folks. :cool:

fedsfan1
09-24-2008, 02:24 PM
^^^ 12 days seems like a lifetime :sad:^^^
I am having major withdrawal .
I am so Fed Addicted :hearts:

SUKTUEN
09-24-2008, 02:31 PM
Roger need a rest!!!
Hope he can take a good rest to play this tour!!!!

Sunset of Age
09-24-2008, 02:36 PM
Roger need a rest!!!
Hope he can take a good rest to play this tour!!!!

Yeah, he's got four tournaments in a row to go now. If he plays them all, that is. :eek:

ryder66
09-25-2008, 01:02 AM
I've been really out of the tennis thing this year due to computer concerns. When I get a chance to get on a working computer, I spend alot of time on tennis sites while I can, trying to catch up. You can imagine my surprise when I went to GM and saw "Gasquet defeats Federer...". It took me awhile to realize it was THREE YEARS OLD! Sigh of relief! Anyway, good luck in Stockholm.

BigJohn
09-25-2008, 01:15 AM
12 days... It's like fasting before the busy end of the season.

He's back on track, let's all be confident. :)

fedexdelivers
09-25-2008, 03:01 AM
I want to be confident but for my own sake have decided to be "optimistic while appropriately wary" (Yes, I did put some thought into the wording :op)

I remember that the SF loss at AO 08 hit me like a truck. I had to close the room door when my family was watching the Tsonga-Djoke final - I couldn't even go out to get a drink! That's how weird it was to experience a GS 2nd Sunday with no Federer on the score board.

After that, the natural thought of a Fed fan is: "It's just a blip - Roger will come back and win the rest of the season". We all know what happened in Dubai and after, culminating in Wimby.

I think the straw broke for me when I watched him lose to Karlovic (and effectively his No. 1 ranking) in person in Cincinnati. Add to that, the extreme frustration of "the tree" wiping out 2 break points consecutively with aces.

It's easy to want to think that Fed is "back" after the USO 08 win but I feel like it took me so long to accept "2008 Fed" that I need to be careful before going back to "2006 Fed" mentality.

Sorry for the long post - it's a 2 week tennis drought.

Sunset of Age
09-25-2008, 09:54 AM
I want to be confident but for my own sake have decided to be "optimistic while appropriately wary" (Yes, I did put some thought into the wording :op)

I feel exactly the same way. Of course, Roger saving his season (at least that's how I feel it is) by winning the 08 USO was fantastic, but I'll wait at least till 09 AO to make any statement of him truly being 'back', or anything close to that. In all, I think it's highly unrealistic to expect him to ever come back to his form of 2005 - 2007 - I'll just be happy to see him do reasonably well, which in my case means: no more silly round 1 - round 2 losses to (no insult intended) 'nobodies' like Simon, Fish and the like.

I remember that the SF loss at AO 08 hit me like a truck. I had to close the room door when my family was watching the Tsonga-Djoke final - I couldn't even go out to get a drink! That's how weird it was to experience a GS 2nd Sunday with no Federer on the score board.

It was a little bit different for me - after he bailed out for Kooyong, with the rumours of him being not well already around, I saw my fears (of him being indeed sick) coming to truth when he had to struggle as much as he did to fend off Tipsarevic - sweating like a sick dog, obviously not being anything near to 100%. His defeat to Djoko didn't at all surprise me thereafter.

After that, the natural thought of a Fed fan is: "It's just a blip - Roger will come back and win the rest of the season". We all know what happened in Dubai and after, culminating in Wimby.

That was my initial thought as well, until it became clear he caught mono. In all honesty, I'm still surprised about the way he managed to struggle on, despite having caught that disease, even reaching two GS finals thereafter!
It takes a long, long time to get back to form, and I can only :worship: Roger for the way he didn't give in but continued to struggle on.

It's easy to want to think that Fed is "back" after the USO 08 win but I feel like it took me so long to accept "2008 Fed" that I need to be careful before going back to "2006 Fed" mentality.

I think going back to "2006 Fed" isn't at all realistic at this point. And we need not forget that Roger had his near-losses to insignificant players during that period as well. Tokyo 2006, barely making it by that Japanese #1000 of the world, for instance? ;)

Sorry for the long post - it's a 2 week tennis drought.

No prob, mate. It's interesting to read people's views on this matter, and I tend to agree with you a lot. :hug:

Another RogFan
09-25-2008, 10:32 AM
I want to be confident but for my own sake have decided to be "optimistic while appropriately wary" (Yes, I did put some thought into the wording :op)

I remember that the SF loss at AO 08 hit me like a truck. I had to close the room door when my family was watching the Tsonga-Djoke final - I couldn't even go out to get a drink! That's how weird it was to experience a GS 2nd Sunday with no Federer on the score board.

After that, the natural thought of a Fed fan is: "It's just a blip - Roger will come back and win the rest of the season". We all know what happened in Dubai and after, culminating in Wimby.

I think the straw broke for me when I watched him lose to Karlovic (and effectively his No. 1 ranking) in person in Cincinnati. Add to that, the extreme frustration of "the tree" wiping out 2 break points consecutively with aces.

It's easy to want to think that Fed is "back" after the USO 08 win but I feel like it took me so long to accept "2008 Fed" that I need to be careful before going back to "2006 Fed" mentality.

Sorry for the long post - it's a 2 week tennis drought.

Well said, indeed. And piece of advice: do not tune yourself for "2006 Fed" - it was a boring Federer at least :)/actually I wasn't big fan of him then - I became hardcore one after AO 2008 - strange?/

bokehlicious
09-25-2008, 10:37 AM
..."2006 Fed" - it was a boring Federer at least

:tape: :tape: :o

Another RogFan
09-25-2008, 12:47 PM
:tape: :tape: :o

I know, I know... but the reason to enjoy the game as a fan is the thrill. Waiting till midnight for USO final, jumping of joy see him wining when things look somehow hopeless - that's what I mean. Not Fededer himself or his game. In 2006 everything was doomed to be in the way it was - where is shiver, anger, joy, disappointment, surprise? I'll repeat it once again: the main reason to become a hard Fed fan after AO loss was that I realized he is just a man who used to do miracles.

bokehlicious
09-25-2008, 12:52 PM
I know, I know... but the reason to enjoy the game as a fan is the thrill. Waiting till midnight for USO final, jumping of joy see him wining when things look somehow hopeless - that's what I mean. Not Fededer himself or his game. In 2006 everything was doomed to be in the way it was - where is shiver, anger, joy, disappointment, surprise? I'll repeat it once again: the main reason to become a hard Fed fan after AO loss was that I realized he is just a man who used to do miracles.

Fair enough ;), though I can't get how we can become a fan as soon as someone starts to struggle :shrug: I think most posters on here are fans of Roger for his game mainly, not out of pity because he doesn't dominate anymore...

RogiFan88
09-25-2008, 01:36 PM
I fail to see why 2006 Fed was boring... that year was quite exciting... up until Beijing, 2008 has been boring... esp throughout the predictably predictable clay season... no drama whatsoever...

BigJohn
09-25-2008, 01:40 PM
I refuse to become a Goth kid about Federer's chances next year. Supposedly, because of his terrible 2008 season, it will be surprising if he wins anything. Come on now. Sick as a dog, he made the semis at the AO, then the next 2 GS finals and won the USO.

AFter the crushing loss at RG and the self admitted devastating Wimbledon that Nadal won, Federer actually got his confidence back with his Gold medal, then made history at the USO.

I think it makes more sense to expect greatness than a slow fading towards worse and worse form. Not immediatly at least. It's too early to declare the potential GOAT in waiting over and done, anything will be a pleasant surprise. Way too early.

We all know he not gonna go a whole year undefeated, but does anyone doubt he'll be a dangerous player in all GS and TMS (or whatever they'll be called)? I'd rather be optimistc (and realistic) than overly depressed over the 2008 season.

RogiFan88
09-25-2008, 01:56 PM
who's depressed over the 08 season? I was not surprised when NTG beat Rogi at AO08SF... I could see that Rogi wasn't quite right, esp after he didn't play Kooyong, which, in itself, is unusual... as for the ensuing hc/clay season, it was only a dream and also vs. the odds, for Rogi to win his 6th straight Wimby... too bad he had to lose vs. TFA, who was the in-form, hyperconfident guy benefitting fr a tight schedule by staying in-form and on the biggest roll of his career [which, btw, extended into the summer hc season, again, working for him w the compressed sched and working vs. Rogi, who had no time to recuperate fr that devastating loss and switch to hc -- our TMS is tough for players coming off grass or clay]

no big surprise Rogi lost early in TO and Cincy... just a continuation of his year basically, slowly gaining confidence to actually win sth... thank GOD he and Stan won Beijing dbles GOLD... that, for me was the start of HIS season this year... just a few months later than usual, that's all! :lol:

this year was bound to be tough w all the expectations of Rogi winning the slam, the real slam, the golden slam, 6th Wimby, etc. -- way too much for any player, let alone the guy who had been enjoying 4-5 yrs of amazing tennis -- it had to end sometime...

but now that records have been stopped, No 1 taken away by the bull, Rogi has been able to relax a little, take the pressure off, and just play tennis, get back into form and confidence, which he did at USO, and win again... it's better now for him -- the new No 1 s bear the pressure now [altho nobody is putting it on him... what else is new?]

so, Rogi, just play Stockholm and we'll see what happens! he still is the guy w all the pts to defend until next year, so who cares... [as long as someone keeps NTG and TFA down, highly unlikely in the latter's case] it's practically impossible for Rogi to regain No 1 this year anyway... it doesn't matter now

what matters is that Rogi has the confidence/form to continue winning -- his motivation is there, as it always is...

OK, I'm starving...

alfonsojose
09-25-2008, 02:06 PM
Hi, JesusFed fans. Is he really playing stockholm, Madrid, Basel and Paris in a row? :scared:

SUKTUEN
09-25-2008, 02:50 PM
this court is green!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lunahielo
09-25-2008, 03:17 PM
Go Roger!! :bounce:

Sunset of Age
09-25-2008, 05:34 PM
I refuse to become a Goth kid about Federer's chances next year. Supposedly, because of his terrible 2008 season, it will be surprising if he wins anything. Come on now. Sick as a dog, he made the semis at the AO, then the next 2 GS finals and won the USO.

It's not about being a Goth kid, it's about being realistic. OF COURSE Roger will have many good things to come ahead of him, but reality forces me to accept that one day the 'greatness' will be over (or at least, the dominance ;)) and there's nothing sad about that - that's friggin' LIFE.

And of course, 2008 surely wasn't that horrible year many made of it (especially the terrible press pundits) - as is noted an uncountable number of times already, some 99% of all of the tour would have easily given a body part to have such a 'horrible year'. But expecting that all of a sudden he'll be back to his 2006-form is, IMHO, unrealistic. Let's just wait and see what will happen...

Hi, JesusFed fans. Is he really playing stockholm, Madrid, Basel and Paris in a row? :scared:

It's on his schedule, yes. Whether he indeed WILL, is something only time will tell. ;)

BigJohn
09-25-2008, 05:45 PM
Allright, I retract the term Goth kid... But I still think you could be more optimistic about Federer version 2009.

I'm pretty sure he'll be a bigger force than Nadal 2009. That is me being realistic, or a fanboy, depending on your own point of view.

Sunset of Age
09-25-2008, 05:58 PM
Allright, I retract the term Goth kid... But I still think you could be more optimistic about Federer version 2009.

The more Roger will surpass my expectations (which surely aren't 'zero', let that be clear! ;)), the happier I will be... that's the big advantage of not setting your expectations too high. :D

I'm pretty sure he'll be a bigger force than Nadal 2009. That is me being realistic, or a fanboy, depending on your own point of view.

Neither, as far as I am concerned.
I doubt whether Rafa will be able to repeat his stellar 2008-run (though, coming to think of it - he has plenty room for improvement during the first three - four months of 2009 :eek:), but I do expect Roger to do at least a lot better on the HC tournaments (Miami, Indian Wells, Cincy & Toronto). Roger's clay and grass run of 2008 wasn't at all bad IMHO, except for Rome of course.

BigJohn
09-25-2008, 06:06 PM
Fair enough. I do not wish Nadal anything bad, it is just that the run he had was just Federesque...

And yeah, for sure, the HC seasons will be better for Fed. I do have one hope: SWEET REVENGE AT THE AO. Give me that and 2009 will be all the sweeter for it. :)

fedexdelivers
09-26-2008, 01:53 AM
What I HATE most in the world: typing a loooooong post and then have the forum tell me I haven't logged in when I just did, causing me to LOSE the post!!!

OK, back on topic. I'm being schizophrenic, if truth be told. My mind says: remember 2nd setitis during the matches vs the Djoke and Murray at the USO when I just knew that the returns would go into the net / long. My heart says: Only Roger can break serve as effectively as at 6-5 to take the 2nd set against Murray so Roger is going to win all the remaining 5 tournaments he is playing in 2008! :rolleyes:

I don't think Fed fans can help it, actually. We have been spoilt - he has achieved things that we never thought possible, not just in one year but for the past 4 years!!! So, somewhere deep in our hearts, we will always think: 1st set down - no prob, Fed will step it up and take it! That mentality has taken a beating this year but it doesn't take much for it to come back.

You know what I would love if Santa is listening? For the No. 1 ranking to be decided in Shanghai this year. But it would take nothing short of a miracle for that to happen or Nadal being injured enough to withdraw from tournaments, which I would never wish on any player.

Personally, I think Fed has a chance to get back the No. 1 ranking as early as at Dubai. Of course, at this point, all we do is speculate cos it doesn't only depend on Roger, it depends on Nadal too.

Step-by-step: next up, Stockholm and I will be ecstatic if he can narrow the points gap with Nadal to 845.

Sunset of Age
09-26-2008, 02:12 AM
What I HATE most in the world: typing a loooooong post and then have the forum tell me I haven't logged in when I just did, causing me to LOSE the post!!!

Tell me all about it, heh. Where's that :BARF!: smiley when you need it? :D

We have been spoilt - he has achieved things that we never thought possible, not just in one year but for the past 4 years!!! So, somewhere deep in our hearts, we will always think: 1st set down - no prob, Fed will step it up and take it! That mentality has taken a beating this year but it doesn't take much for it to come back.

That's right. Too many people seem to think it's just normal what Roger's been doing the past four years. Well, sorry for the Wake-Up Call, but it's NOT. It's been bloddy EXCEPTIONAL. ;)

You know what I would love if Santa is listening? For the No. 1 ranking to be decided in Shanghai this year. But it would take nothing short of a miracle for that to happen or Nadal being injured enough to withdraw from tournaments, which I would never wish on any player.

It's mathematically possible, as I said already. But not realistically, and as I really don't like seeing any a player (including Roger) taking such of an advantage over any an other player because of an injury (which is the only way he'd possibly achieve it), I think it's pretty SICK of anyone to wish something like that to happen to any a rival. Rafa has truly earned his #1 spot this year, folks. Acknowledge it, it doesn't take away anything of Roger's great achievements in the past.

Personally, I think Fed has a chance to get back the No. 1 ranking as early as at Dubai. Of course, at this point, all we do is speculate cos it doesn't only depend on Roger, it depends on Nadal too.

And that's exactly why I don't think Roger has a chance to get back to that #1 spot before Dubai AT ALL. Roger dropped a lot of points in the first three months of 2008, but so did Raf! The BOTH of them boinked a lot of points during that period. And both of them did well around the clay season, so if there's any a chance for Roger to pick it up again, he'll at least have to do very well in the Miami/Indian Wells HC season - and then again, the major chance of him to pick up the #1 spot again will be AFTER the clay/grass season, and not before. My Humble Opinion, of course. :)

Step-by-step: next up, Stockholm and I will be ecstatic if he can narrow the points gap with Nadal to 845.

I'll be very happy if Rodge will be able to claim this tournament, but whatever people claim, there are some good players around there. ;)

fedexdelivers
09-26-2008, 05:11 AM
Quote: You know what I would love if Santa is listening? For the No. 1 ranking to be decided in Shanghai this year. But it would take nothing short of a miracle for that to happen or Nadal being injured enough to withdraw from tournaments, which I would never wish on any player.


Hi, I just want to make sure that you read what I wrote in bold above. I would never wish injury on any player and I would not want Roger to get the No. 1 ranking back that way.

Sure, there are dangerous players in Stockholm - title holder is "Karlovic the tree". Sorry to keep harping on him but his matches with Roger traumatize me! :)

I actually think our crazy man is going to play 4 tournaments over 4 weeks. :eek: Well, since he is "feeling better than ever before", so be it!

Another RogFan
09-26-2008, 10:59 AM
I think most posters on here are fans of Roger for his game mainly, not out of pity because he doesn't dominate anymore...

:scratch:
I know my English isn't good enough but I have no idea I could be misunderstood in such way...

Anyway: the next year will be interesting unless Federer finds his inspiration again in order to produce another :) "boring" season /in terms of sporting intrigue of course/

Sunset of Age
09-26-2008, 01:28 PM
Quote: You know what I would love if Santa is listening? For the No. 1 ranking to be decided in Shanghai this year. But it would take nothing short of a miracle for that to happen or Nadal being injured enough to withdraw from tournaments, which I would never wish on any player.

Hi, I just want to make sure that you read what I wrote in bold above. I would never wish injury on any player and I would not want Roger to get the No. 1 ranking back that way.

I read it, no worries! I fully agree, of course. :hug:

Sure, there are dangerous players in Stockholm - title holder is "Karlovic the tree". Sorry to keep harping on him but his matches with Roger traumatize me! :)

Karlovic has never been an easy opponent for Roger, his matches with him were tight even when Rodge was on his top level. Fortunately for Roger, Karlovic hasn't been on his best level for quite a while now. ;)

I actually think our crazy man is going to play 4 tournaments over 4 weeks. :eek: Well, since he is "feeling better than ever before", so be it!

It's a positive sign at least! :D

SUKTUEN
09-26-2008, 03:21 PM
I miss Roger~~

lunahielo
09-29-2008, 03:18 AM
I miss Roger~~

I do too, SUKTUEN~~:hug:
But we'll get to see him before too long. :)

Luna

SUKTUEN
09-29-2008, 02:17 PM
anyone know when will he play?
I miss him, but I also want he can take a good rest~~

BigJohn
09-29-2008, 04:58 PM
Only one more week... OK, most likely he won't play next Monday, but still, the drought is almost over. 8 days. :)

Sunset of Age
09-29-2008, 05:00 PM
Only one more week... OK, most likely he won't play next Monday, but still, the drought is almost over. 8 days. :)

I'm already counting the days...

BigJohn
09-30-2008, 12:47 AM
I'm already counting the days...

Do you actually make an X on the calendar? :p

Arkulari
09-30-2008, 05:52 AM
prison style, crossing little lines on the wall to count days :haha:

fedexdelivers
09-30-2008, 06:20 AM
225 points, 225 points, 225 points, 225 points,..........

Don't mind me - I'm sending a subliminal message to Roger.

If he does play all 5 tournaments, that's 6 straight weeks of Roger tennis with only one week's break within.

Sunset of Age
09-30-2008, 12:02 PM
Do you actually make an X on the calendar? :p

prison style, crossing little lines on the wall to count days :haha:

Eh... yeah. :haha:

225 points, 225 points, 225 points, 225 points,..........

Don't mind me - I'm sending a subliminal message to Roger.

If he does play all 5 tournaments, that's 6 straight weeks of Roger tennis with only one week's break within.

Yeah, that's an awful lot of tennis, even for Rodge. But didn't he say recently that he's 'feeling better than ever?' :D
Nah, I think it will depend on how he does in those tournaments whether he'll indeed play them ALL. :eek:

BigJohn
09-30-2008, 02:15 PM
Eh... yeah. :haha:



Yeah, that's an awful lot of tennis, even for Rodge. But didn't he say recently that he's 'feeling better than ever?' :D
Nah, I think it will depend on how he does in those tournaments whether he'll indeed play them ALL. :eek:

Soon, no more Federer-withdrawal-syndrom.

Optimism people.
He will play all those tournaments.
He will do well.
All is fine.
:)

SUKTUEN
09-30-2008, 06:48 PM
I only know it is a green court~~

Federerhingis
10-01-2008, 12:28 AM
When is Roger heading over to Stockholm? Probably friday?

Sunset of Age
10-01-2008, 12:31 AM
When is Roger heading over to Stockholm? Probably friday?

I guess so, but I don't expect him to play before Monday or Tuesday. :D

Federerhingis
10-01-2008, 12:42 AM
I guess so, but I don't expect him to play before Monday or Tuesday. :D

Right, who else is playing in Stockholm? Any possible threats? (I know I can look it up but am so lazy) :o

Sunset of Age
10-01-2008, 01:33 AM
Right, who else is playing in Stockholm? Any possible threats? (I know I can look it up but am so lazy) :o

Well, the line-up as known for now, in red, possible 'threats':

1 Federer, Roger SUI 2
2 Nalbandian, David ARG 7 - okay, :haha:
3 Ancic, Mario CRO 28 -hmmm... not so sure about that. :scratch:
4 Soderling, Robin SWE 34 - idem
5 Schuettler, Rainer GER 36
6 Nieminen, Jarkko FIN 37
7 Haas, Tommy GER 39
8 Granollers, Marcel ESP 51
9 Acasuso, Jose ARG 52
10 Querrey, Sam USA 55
11 Montanes, Albert ESP 59
12 Darcis, Steve BEL 62
13 Lapentti, Nicolas ECU 65
14 Johansson, Thomas SWE 66
15 Rochus, Olivier BEL 68
16 Grosjean, Sebastien FRA 70
17 Hrbaty, Dominik SVK @70
18 Navarro, Ivan ESP 75
19 Clement, Arnaud FRA 78
20 Hernandez, Oscar ESP 79
21 Minar, Ivo CZE 81
22 Fognini, Fabio ITA 83
23 Mahut, Nicolas FRA 84
24 (SE)
25 (SE)
26 (Q)
27 (Q)
28 (Q)
29 (Q)
30 (WC)
31 (WC)
32 (WC)

Alternates
1. Bellucci, Thomaz BRA 86
2. Guccione, Chris AUS 87
3. Andujar, Pablo ESP 88
4. Reynolds, Bobby USA 89
5. Rochus, Christophe BEL 92
6. Volandri, Filippo ITA 93
7. Zverev, Mischa GER 94
OUT Levine, Jesse USA 96
OUT Haase, Robin NED 97
8. Korolev, Evgeny RUS 98
9. Berrer, Michael GER 99
10. Karanusic, Roko CRO 100
11. Young, Donald USA 102
12. Becker, Benjamin GER 103
13. Anderson, Kevin RSA 104

Okay, you agree with me that Feddie has a fair chance to pick up some :lick: points at this tournament, no? :D

JediFed
10-01-2008, 02:28 AM
Man, Nalbandian.

Good luck Roger! :D

SUKTUEN
10-01-2008, 02:58 PM
is he will play at wed??

trickcy
10-01-2008, 04:08 PM
Roger withdraws from Stockholm

Roger announced today that he will not be participating in the Stockholm Open which starts next Monday.

"2008 has been a tough year for me as I was always playing catch up after being diagnosed with mononucleosis at the beginning of the year. I feel fortunate to be healthy again, but I want to remain at the top of the game for many more years to come and go after the #1 ranking again. In order to do that, I need to get a proper rest and get strong again so that I am 100% fit for the remainder of the year or next year. At this point, I am not sure when I will be ready to play again, but I hope to be back at some point before the end of the year. I apologize to the tennis fans in Sweden as I was looking forward to playing in Stockholm again. The country has produced so many incredible tennis players and the tournament has such a great history. I hope to be able to come back at some point in the future."

http://www.rogerfederer.com/en/rogers/news/newsdetail.cfm?uNewsID=806

BigJohn
10-01-2008, 04:10 PM
But... we were counting the days...

Sunset of Age
10-01-2008, 04:18 PM
Roger withdraws from Stockholm

Roger announced today that he will not be participating in the Stockholm Open which starts next Monday.

"2008 has been a tough year for me as I was always playing catch up after being diagnosed with mononucleosis at the beginning of the year. I feel fortunate to be healthy again, but I want to remain at the top of the game for many more years to come and go after the #1 ranking again. In order to do that, I need to get a proper rest and get strong again so that I am 100% fit for the remainder of the year or next year. At this point, I am not sure when I will be ready to play again, but I hope to be back at some point before the end of the year. I apologize to the tennis fans in Sweden as I was looking forward to playing in Stockholm again. The country has produced so many incredible tennis players and the tournament has such a great history. I hope to be able to come back at some point in the future."

http://www.rogerfederer.com/en/rogers/news/newsdetail.cfm?uNewsID=806

This sounds very, very bad... not knowing when or if he'll be playing again before the end of this year??? OMG. Damn!
:sad: :sad: :sad:

I'm sorry folks, I'll NEVER start a tournament cheering thread again.

Corey Feldman
10-01-2008, 04:23 PM
what a big fucking surprise

Sunset of Age
10-01-2008, 04:28 PM
what a big fucking surprise

Withdrawal perhaps not, but him stating that he doesn't know when he'll be playing again this year, hopefully before the end of the year - that very much sounds like a mono-relapse to me.
I can only hope I'm very wrong about this but I surely don't like this at all. If he had just stated 'I'm tired', or any other lame excuse, okay - but these words sure are worrisome. :scared:

Corey Feldman
10-01-2008, 04:30 PM
dont think so Karin

its just his usual attitude towards these small tournaments over the last few years, he wont change.

of course Dubai and Basel get the best priority for obvious reasons - and Halle

well done on only filling 2 of your 5 optional points for yet another season Roger.

BigJohn
10-01-2008, 04:33 PM
This sounds very, very bad... not knowing when or if he'll be playing again before the end of this year??? OMG. Damn!
:sad: :sad: :sad:

I'm sorry folks, I'll NEVER start a tournament cheering thread again.

Maybe I was too optimistic.

Is Goth kid the way to go?

To expect never ending crap and just be happy when something sweet and nice comes along?

lunahielo
10-01-2008, 04:46 PM
Hope he's not feeling ill again........:sad:

nobama
10-01-2008, 04:49 PM
what a big fucking surpriseYeah, you're response certainly is....NOT. :D

Eden
10-01-2008, 04:50 PM
I'm sorry folks, I'll NEVER start a tournament cheering thread again.

Don't tell me, you believe in this kind of stuff, Karin :hug:

I wasn't that successful with my tournament threads here as well: He lost when I opened the Indian Wells thread last year and didn't played in Tokyo when I opened that thread back in 2007.

It was a shock to read the news about the withdraw, especially because of the sentence that Roger doesn't know when he is ready to play again. On the other hand he says he is fortunate to be healthy again after having mono earlier this year, so I think we should not panic immediately about this withdraw. Maybe it was really just to have a rest before the other tournaments of the season. Let's trust in Roger, that he knows what is best for him :)

Have a good rest Roger and hope to see you on court again soon :hug:

nobama
10-01-2008, 04:54 PM
dont think so Karin

its just his usual attitude towards these small tournaments over the last few years, he wont change.

of course Dubai and Basel get the best priority for obvious reasons - and Halle

well done on only filling 2 of your 5 optional points for yet another season Roger.How do any of us know what it really is? He said he's not sure when he's going to play again. When's the last time he's said that?

If Roger ends up playing Madrid, Basel, Paris and TMC and seems just fine then your comments might be justified. But no where in his announcement did he even mention any other events, or that he was hopeful to be back in Madrid.

I want Roger to be 100% fit and healthy again so he's still able to condend for majors regardless of ranking. Screw the ranking right now.

Corey Feldman
10-01-2008, 05:03 PM
this on off Mono stuff is just getting really tireseome

why doesnt he just say he's burnt out or smth?

he'd just started playing great tennis again and now here come the 6 week lay offs to follow it.

glorifying in his olympic/us open stuff - why waste his time in this mm event

Sunset of Age
10-01-2008, 05:06 PM
dont think so Karin

its just his usual attitude towards these small tournaments over the last few years, he wont change.

of course Dubai and Basel get the best priority for obvious reasons - and Halle

well done on only filling 2 of your 5 optional points for yet another season Roger.

Your words towards Roger seem unnecessarily harsh to me, Mikey. What do you want him to do instead? Play on, and completely wear himself out? I'm sure he and his team know best on what to do to ensure Roger will be on the tour as long as possible, and isn't that exactly what we'd all like to see most?

Maybe I was too optimistic.

Is Goth kid the way to go?

To expect never ending crap and just be happy when something sweet and nice comes along?

This withdrawal wouldn't feel so bad to me if it weren't worded the way it has been... and I can ensure you I didn't expect anything the like.

Don't tell me, you believe in this kind of stuff, Karin :hug:

Of course not, but it seems to be the 'in' way of doing around here. ;)
I'm a scientist, remember? But well... at times I just feel the need to play along. :sad:

I wasn't that successful with my tournament threads here as well: He lost when I opened the Indian Wells thread last year and didn't played in Tokyo when I opened that thread back in 2007.

I remember that... so we both are Anathema to opening new cheering threads. It's just like that. :angel:

It was a shock to read the news about the withdraw, especially because of the sentence that Roger doesn't know when he is ready to play again. On the other hand he says he is fortunate to be healthy again after having mono earlier this year, so I think we should not panic immediately about this withdraw. Maybe it was really just to have a rest before the other tournaments of the season. Let's trust in Roger, that he knows what is best for him :)

I so hope you are right, but to me, there's something smelly in the town of Basel going on, or wherever he's living nowadays... based on the words I bolded. Of course you are right, and as I said to Mikey: he and his team surely know what's best for him (even if they might have well made a mistake to let him play Cincy and Toronto this year!)... still we should have faith in them. They aren't going to make that mistake twice, so maybe this is indeed a sign that they now know how to properly deal with a not-fully-fit Roger. :)

Have a good rest Roger and hope to see you on court again soon :hug:

AMEN to that...

But whatever, I feel gutted right now. :sad: :sad: :sad:

Sunset of Age
10-01-2008, 05:08 PM
this on off Mono stuff is just getting really tireseome

why doesnt he just say he's burnt out or smth?

Look it up in a medical encyclopedia or something the like - you'll find this is very well possible. Or ask Ancic, or Schalken, or the many others who saw their careers (whether in tennis or anywhere else) damaged or even ruined by this horrible infection...

Sunset of Age
10-01-2008, 05:10 PM
But no where in his announcement did he even mention any other events, or that he was hopeful to be back in Madrid.

And THAT is exactly why I feel so worried about this announcement...

I want Roger to be 100% fit and healthy again so he's still able to condend for majors regardless of ranking. Screw the ranking right now.

Oh, that ranking is already screwed, that shouldn't be of any importance anymore - at least not until halfway 2009 at the most early imho.

Corey Feldman
10-01-2008, 05:20 PM
i think he'll play Madrid, he probably didnt say he'll be back for Madrid coz then he may have to have given an injury reason for not playing Stockholm

Your words towards Roger seem unnecessarily harsh to me, Mikey. What do you want him to do instead? Play on, and completely wear himself out? I'm sure he and his team know best on what to do to ensure Roger will be on the tour as long as possible, and isn't that exactly what we'd all like to see most?I didnt want him to play Stockholm, didnt think he would and am not surprised he WD!

my moaning in that post was more about how he is not able to fill his optionals each year - like we discussed a week ago .. he should have played Rotterdam this year or one of the lead up American events before Indian Wells

and Doha - altho i know he wouldnt have because of the illness.

nobama
10-01-2008, 05:24 PM
this on off Mono stuff is just getting really tireseome

why doesnt he just say he's burnt out or smth?

he'd just started playing great tennis again and now here come the 6 week lay offs to follow it.

glorifying in his olympic/us open stuff - why waste his time in this mm eventThere was an interview with Pierre Pagannini posted here a month or so ago. In that interivew it was pretty clear that he didn't think Roger was 100% and there were discussions about what to do after the US Open. And there was another newspaper article (I think it was the NY Sun or Wall Street Journal) that indicated the same thing. Clearly the idea of not playing post US Open was on the table.

Sunset of Age
10-01-2008, 05:25 PM
i think he'll play Madrid, he probably didnt say he'll be back for Madrid coz then he may have to have given an injury reason for not playing Stockholm

I didnt want him to play Stockholm, didnt think he would and am not surprised he WD!

I'm not at all surprised he won't play Stockholm - as I said before I didn't expect him to be playing ALL the tournaments he assigned to do. But I AM unpleasantly surprised about the wording of this withdrawal. He might have come up with any a lame excuse - tired, weak in the knees, fatigue etc. - but him claiming he doesn't know when he'll be playing again, yes, that is what makes me worried, nothing else...

my moaning in that post was more about how he is not able to fill his optionals each year - like we discussed a week ago .. he should have played Rotterdam this year or one of the lead up American events before Indian Wells

and Doha - altho i know he wouldnt have because of the illness.

Rotterdam came in the middle of the period when it was obvious he was ill, hence his first-round loss in Dubai. And from what I recently read, he might have done better to not play Cincy and Toronto either, so he DOES give all he feels capable off. It's not like Roger shanks tournaments right-left-and-center, the last one he withdrew from was Paris Bercy in 2006, right?

nobama
10-01-2008, 05:25 PM
i think he'll play Madrid, he probably didnt say he'll be back for Madrid coz then he may have to have given an injury reason for not playing StockholmHe didn't give an injury reason when he withdrew from Tokyo. Just that he was tired. IMO he wouldn't have said he doesn't know when he'll be back if he was planning on playing everything but Stockholm.

trickcy
10-01-2008, 05:35 PM
This sounds very, very bad... not knowing when or if he'll be playing again before the end of this year??? OMG. Damn!
:sad: :sad:

I'm sorry folks, I'll NEVER start a tournament cheering thread again.

I don't like this either :sad: Just hope everything's alright.

If such things worked, I'm sure we'd have had a gazillion people open tournament threads in the Fed Express by now :hug:

Withdrawal perhaps not, but him stating that he doesn't know when he'll be playing again this year, hopefully before the end of the year - that very much sounds like a mono-relapse to me.
I can only hope I'm very wrong about this but I surely don't like this at all. If he had just stated 'I'm tired', or any other lame excuse, okay - but these words sure are worrisome. :scared:

I'm worried about the part about him not mentioning any remaining tournaments too..
If it sounded how it did when he pulled out of Bercy in 06, that would be OK. But this reminds me more of the 05 indoor season :scared:

dont think so Karin

its just his usual attitude towards these small tournaments over the last few years, he wont change.

of course Dubai and Basel get the best priority for obvious reasons - and Halle

well done on only filling 2 of your 5 optional points for yet another season Roger.

Sigh yes..

nobama
10-01-2008, 05:36 PM
Here's the interview with Paganini I was talking about. Not a direct reference to taking time off after the US Open, but he does say "At the moment the focus is on the US Open. After this tournament we will discuss how we move on."

Originally Posted by jason2505
I translated the Interview with Pierre Paganini for you. I hope everything is more or less understandable

„Roger needs time“

Fitnesscoach Pierre Paganini about Federers season so far and consequences of mono

By Rene Stauffer

Mr. Paganini, as a long-term coach and consultant of roger federer: whats your opinion concerning his fitness before the US Open?

Regarding the athleticism, he´s at 99 or 100 % of his potential. Maybe he lacks a little bit stamina in some situations, e.g. when a rally takes too long, so that he misses some explosiveness. But a tennis player is like a puzzle. A lot of factors are involved, such as athleticism, the tennis itself and last but not least the self-confidence. His self-confidence isn´t the same like it´s been in the previous years. That becomes evident when you look at his match statistics.

How does that affect his game?

It´s a mixture of hesitating – often just a hundred of a second – and a little less harmony in the movement. You play like you move, and you move and play like you feel. It´s a triangle-relation. If you lack only a half percent in athleticism, mentally, and in your game, it´s in the addition 1,5 %. And that´s the explanation for being a little uncertain sometimes. In former times roger fought to convert his tennis, now he fights to express it. That´s a different fight, that´s why it looks a little different.

Does that mean he doesn’t suffer from the glandular fever anymore, which has often been speculated? He himself said that he misses about 20 days of training.

To answer that question I have to draw back somewhat. In 2007 we said: For the 2008 season we will do two important training blocks, the first in December 2007, the second one in February 08. We would have liked to do a third one in july, but that wasn’t possible because of the Olympic Games. The Main Block was the one in February. That one should have helped him to be in good shape till after the Olympics. At first everything went as planned: Roger was fit as ever, in every way his state of fitness was impressive. No doubt about that.

But then the problems began.

At first he had this stomach-virus in Australia, that made him sick for about 10, 11 days. He was 24 hours in hospital, had fever, took antibiotics, lost three Kilos of weight. If you are ill or injured, it takes three times as long to reach the status quo (of fitness). That means, the first fitness block from December was more or less worthless.

Despite this fact, he reached the Semis of the AO.

Right. And when we came back home, we discovered in February, that he suffered since December of glandular fever. From the medical point of view it was finished on 23rd of February – just one week before dubai (where roger lost to andy murray). That means, we couldn´t even start the second main block in february. So roger was out of form and had lost a lot of stamina. Therefore we had 2 possibilities: Taking a break for 3 month without playing any tournament and giving everything out of the hand without a fight, or to make new 3-day training blocks between the tournaments to regain at least a bit of the stamina.

You chose the 2nd possibility.

I´ve never seen roger so courageous like this year. He had to deal with a complete different rhythm of tournaments, hard work and recovery. He was tired when he wasn’t in the past, and you had to be careful not to train too much. It was really tough, and it impressed me a lot how he handled everything. In the past everyone said: Federer runs automatically, he always wins, he is a nice guy without a lot of internal power. But now you see what it takes to achieve things like he did. This year we saw the real roger, 2008 he was more the human than the machine. He had to deal with emotions, losses and dissapointments.

The results remained below the expectations.

A lot of people are talking of a down – but i´d like to have such a down in my life! Of course he remained below the expectations and the standards that he set himself the last couple of years. But he still had great results. He was runner up in 2 GS finals and is nr. 3 in the champions race. Of course you can say i´m not objective because I work with him. But what I just told you are facts that no one can deny. Aparty from that it´s not about defending roger. It´s about seeing the situation just like it is and how roger has experienced it.
Federer said it might have been a mistake to play toronto and cinncy before the olympics. What´s your opinion on that?

Afterwards you always know more. That´s the exciting thing, that a player has to decide before the tournaments if he plays. But there where not enough reasons to withdraw. He won Halle and showed some super-tennis in wimbledon. From the medical side everthing was fine, what a blood-test proved after wimby. If he had won the last 9:7 in the final, people would talk differently.

Do you think he can regain his old form that made him a 12-times GS-Champion?

I am convinced of that, for 100 %. You don’t lose your potential from one day to another. If someone is able to speak 7 languages and has a headache, he doens´t forget how to speak the languages. There were a lot of situations where he showed his enormous potential, even this year. He just couldn’t do it o a consistent basis like in the past years. And already some say: He´s done. That’s real madness and shows, how high he has set the standards. He cant fail without being buried.


In your opinion, how does he deal with the criticism nowadays? It seems like he tries not to make too much drama out of it.

You never know how it looks inside a person. It´s rogers job to protect his inner feelings, because it´s private business. At the same time he is a Ambassedor of Tennis and takes a lot of time for his duties. I think he´s one of the mentally strongest players on tour, otherwise he couldn’t have achieved these incredible results that he did.

Could the gold-medal from the Olympics help him to regain his old strength?

I don´t know. I just think Roger needs time. Maybe more time than you might think at the moment. Roger is a Virtuose, who is ready to fight. But he is no one who can win just with pure fight, without virtuosity. He has to feel comfortable out on the court again, than he can also fight unbelievably, like he has already proven several times in the past. He needs to work on basic things, in tennis as well as in stamina. And even more, he needs success experiences. Others need 2 wins, and they gain confidence. With roger its different. He´s used to win big tournaments and thus needs more success experiences.

There were speculations in Beijing, he could finish the season earlier then expected.

At the moment the focus is on the US Open. After this tournament we will discuss how we move on. For roger a new chapter begins. You have to define your philosophy new, what´s important for you and what you want to change. That will lead to nice discussions, that we will have with our team.

trickcy
10-01-2008, 05:38 PM
He didn't give an injury reason when he withdrew from Tokyo. Just that he was tired. IMO he wouldn't have said he doesn't know when he'll be back if he was planning on playing everything but Stockholm.

Exactly. I'm just worried about him saying he hopes he can play again before the end of the year, but he doesn't know when he can play again..

Corey Feldman
10-01-2008, 05:42 PM
its just a big puzzle to me as well Paganini

played his best match of the year v Murray and now more problems and set backs ??

i dont know anymore

just all the best to him .... whenever he does come back.

Sunset of Age
10-01-2008, 05:43 PM
Exactly. I'm just worried about him saying he hopes he can play again before the end of the year, but he doesn't know when he can play again..

I think that's what troubles us the most of all.
Well, okay, we should be positive. Let's give it a try.

Help remind me not to look in GM for tonight... the haters are out in full-force again. As we all know, any a player can get ill, injured or otherwise not fit to play a tournament - but of course not Roger, he's just digging up excuses ... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

trickcy
10-01-2008, 05:57 PM
I think that's what troubles us the most of all.
Well, okay, we should be positive. Let's give it a try.

Help remind me not to look in GM for tonight... the haters are out in full-force again. As we all know, any a player can get ill, injured or otherwise not fit to play a tournament - but of course not Roger, he's just digging up excuses ... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Yep, let's hope he's healthy..

I just went there. Good lord, just crap out there :bs: Somehow people manage to link Roger withdrawing with Roger tarnishing Rafito's achievements.. WTF??

Rita
10-01-2008, 06:03 PM
OMG i just came home to hear this horrible news:bigcry::bigcry::crying2:

nobama
10-01-2008, 06:07 PM
I think that's what troubles us the most of all.
Well, okay, we should be positive. Let's give it a try.

Help remind me not to look in GM for tonight... the haters are out in full-force again. As we all know, any a player can get ill, injured or otherwise not fit to play a tournament - but of course not Roger, he's just digging up excuses ... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:It's not as bad as I thought...the usual suspects like Tangerine_Dream who's forever bitter that Roddick is a one slam wonder who has a hard time beating mugs these days. I see it took him 3 tb's 37 aces to take out Ivo Minar in Tokyo. :haha:

I wonder what these arseholes will say if Roger doesn't show up in Madrid?

Eden
10-01-2008, 06:11 PM
this on off Mono stuff is just getting really tireseome

why doesnt he just say he's burnt out or smth?

He said he is healthy again, but mainly talks about the consequences of this disease ;)

It's horrible to see so many people on MTF joking about mono. Let's just hope neither of their favourite players ever catches this disease. I have seen what this disease caused to other athletes.


he'd just started playing great tennis again and now here come the 6 week lay offs to follow it.

Same as last year ;)

glorifying in his olympic/us open stuff - why waste his time in this mm event

If you have seen the reception he, Stan and Fabian Cancellara got in Basel and read Roger's comments about this event you should know how much this honour meant to him. I doubt he was partying each day ;)

Beside this we all already speculated in here which tournaments he would probably skip as it was highly unlikely that he would play 4 tournaments in a row.

The main thing which is worrying is the sentence that he doesn't know when he is going to play again.



I remember that... so we both are Anathema to opening new cheering threads. It's just like that. :angel:

We will do better next year :rocker2:


I so hope you are right, but to me, there's something smelly in the town of Basel going on, or wherever he's living nowadays... based on the words I bolded.
But whatever, I feel gutted right now. :sad: :sad: :sad:

Let's just wait and see if he will play in Madrid and/or Basel. Then we can maybe really worry that something is wrong, but right now I just hope he and his team decided to have some needed rest. It was a difficult season for him, not only because of the mono, but also because of the disappointing losses he had.

It doesn't help him when he plays and doesn't feels comfortable on the court.


Rotterdam came in the middle of the period when it was obvious he was ill, hence his first-round loss in Dubai. And from what I recently read, he might have done better to not play Cincy and Toronto either, so he DOES give all he feels capable off. It's not like Roger shanks tournaments right-left-and-center, the last one he withdrew from was Paris Bercy in 2006, right?

He skipped Halle and Tokio last year.

Help remind me not to look in GM for tonight... the haters are out in full-force again. As we all know, any a player can get ill, injured or otherwise not fit to play a tournament - but of course not Roger, he's just digging up excuses ... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

You should know how GM works when it is about Roger.

Sunset of Age
10-01-2008, 06:34 PM
I just went there. Good lord, just crap out there :bs: Somehow people manage to link Roger withdrawing with Roger tarnishing Rafito's achievements.. WTF??

Unbelievable, isn't it? WTF Roger's and Rafa's achievements must always be compared in any way available is beyond me. Is it really SO HARD to just acknowledge both of these players' great results, without tarnishing either of theirs???
You know I love Rafa, I've never made a secret of that - but OMG some of his fans... :help: :retard: :retard: :retard:

It's not as bad as I thought...the usual suspects like Tangerine_Dream who's forever bitter that Roddick is a one slam wonder who has a hard time beating mugs these days. I see it took him 3 tb's 37 aces to take out Ivo Minar in Tokyo. :haha:

It's a shame to see what bitterness can do to some. The problem is, it makes people dislike their favourites as well. I can't help myself laughing at any a subpar result of Andy's anymore... isn't that sad? The guy himself should leave me indifferent, if anything!

I wonder what these arseholes will say if Roger doesn't show up in Madrid?

Want a summing-up? Here we go:
"He's a faker"
"He's done"
"His career is over"
"He's a sore loser, not daring to show up against the highly superior opponents he'll be meeting there"
"He's afraid"

I bet you can think of some more... :angel:

EDIT: oh, I forgot the #1: "He's arrogant" :ras:

It's horrible to see so many people on MTF joking about mono. Let's just hope neither of their favourite players ever catches this disease. I have seen what this disease caused to other athletes.

... let alone to these 'humourists'/naysayers themselves!!! :mad:
I try to remain as understanding as possible, telling myself these ignorami are merely teenagers who have never met any such a disaster in their lives themselves, and who've so far managed to gleefully avoid people who did.
But it's bloody hard, as I can't ever remember myself having been as ignorant as that at such an age.
Anyway, it infuriates me, maybe even more as I've just heard from a good friend of mine, being barely in her thirties, being terminally ill. I should really get out of GM before I do even more damage than I already have...

Let's just wait and see if he will play in Madrid and/or Basel. Then we can maybe really worry that something is wrong, but right now I just hope he and his team decided to have some needed rest. It was a difficult season for him, not only because of the mono, but also because of the disappointing losses he had.

It doesn't help him when he plays and doesn't feels comfortable on the court.

Wise words as always, Doris. :hug:

You should know how GM works when it is about Roger.

I have to admit that I'll never get used to it. :(

Eden
10-01-2008, 06:46 PM
It's not as bad as I thought...the usual suspects like Tangerine_Dream who's forever bitter that Roddick is a one slam wonder who has a hard time beating mugs these days.

I know you don't like Roddick, but I don't think he is a one slam wonder ;) If Roger wouldn't have been around he would have won more slams. Roger has huge respect for Andy and though people might say this is because he has such a good h2h against him, I think it has more to do with the knowledge how hard Andy works.

Andy suffered from injury this season as well, but he had good results earlier this year and is the only player beside Murray who was able to beat Roger, Rafa and Djokovic.

nobama
10-01-2008, 07:09 PM
I know you don't like Roddick, but I don't think he is a one slam wonder ;) If Roger wouldn't have been around he would have won more slams. Roger has huge respect for Andy and though people might say this is because he has such a good h2h against him, I think it has more to do with the knowledge how hard Andy works.

Andy suffered from injury this season as well, but he had good results earlier this year and is the only player beside Murray who was able to beat Roger, Rafa and Djokovic.No reason bringing 'if's' into the discussion. Otherwise I might as well say Roger would have 18 slams were it not for Nadal. ;)

Anyway TD is a bitter Roddick fan, someone I don't think will ever get over Roger being what she hopped Andy would be. There's a reason that any Fed thread in GM she's there like bees to honey with a snide or sarcastic comment. ;)

nobama
10-01-2008, 07:12 PM
It's a shame to see what bitterness can do to some. The problem is, it makes people dislike their favourites as well. I can't help myself laughing at any a subpar result of Andy's anymore... isn't that sad? The guy himself should leave me indifferent, if anything! Yeah I know I shouldn't care about Roddick either, but I too laugh when he looses or just watching him play....especially when he's approaching the net. :help:

nobama
10-01-2008, 07:26 PM
Someone posted this on the BBC sports boards...got me thinking that maybe he will skip everything except TMC, and he's already looking towards 2009.

He better be skipping those exhos at the end of the year.....:mad:

As I said before, I think he'll skip straight to the Masters now and ignore Madrid and Paris. This is a sign he is deadly serious about dominating again from 2009 onwards, not playing selective events (ala Sampras) but really driving through and trying to reclaim #1 back (which is what he said). Reclaiming #1 isnt possible by being selective.

Besides the Masters he's only defending 675 pts so he has probably been advised that the rest and training will be worth far more than that next year. Just winning AO would gain 550 pts from last year. But I dont think he would want to drop the Master as its worth 650pts to him in one event, and he will want to add that title to his record. His committment to #1 says he wants to break all records - y/e at #1, wks at #1, slams, masters, you name it. I dont think he's satisfied not being definitively acknowledged as the best in the game.

So, he's got almost 7 weeks to the MC so thats a long time to rest up, bulk up and hit the gym. Then after the Masters he can work on technique (with Cahill perhaps) and further conditioning.

Wise thinking, and you can bet it will have got Nadal thinking.

Eden
10-01-2008, 07:35 PM
No reason bringing 'if's' into the discussion. Otherwise I might as well say Roger would have 18 slams were it not for Nadal. ;)

I knew you would come up with this, Jen :lol: :hug:

Eden
10-01-2008, 07:58 PM
Someone posted this on the BBC sports boards...got me thinking that maybe he will skip everything except TMC, and he's already looking towards 2009.


I don't see him skipping Basel. He said so many times what an important tournament it is for him and how much he is looking forward to play there.

RogerFan82
10-01-2008, 08:44 PM
I think Roger will play Basel, Paris and Shangai. From his statement, I think he wants to skip Madrid bcoz it wont be on the schedule next year (changes to a MS clay event, held in May). Maybe the points gained in madrid come off as early as May next year !! Just wondering !!!

Or Levy
10-01-2008, 09:36 PM
But he's defending a FINAL in Madrid!

Won't he have issues in the race with Djoko in that case?

I sure hope he won't have to do that, I'd be worried otherwise.

RogerFan82
10-01-2008, 09:48 PM
But he's defending a FINAL in Madrid!

Won't he have issues in the race with Djoko in that case?

I sure hope he won't have to do that, I'd be worried otherwise.

yeah!!! but he still has a reasonably comfortable lead over Djoko. Hopefully Fed comes out swinging whenever he comes back. At the moment, we're all speculating as to the real reason for Fed's withdrawal this week. :)

Sunset of Age
10-01-2008, 10:10 PM
Whatever, I've seen nothing around that is any way a comfort to my dark mind right now... I really fear he might skip all of his planned tournaments, except for Shanghai, perhaps. :help:

Someone cheer me up, fast! :)

cath777
10-01-2008, 10:17 PM
Whatever, I've seen nothing around that is any way a comfort to my dark mind right now... I really fear he might skip all of his planned tournaments, except for Shanghai, perhaps. :help:

Someone cheer me up, fast! :)

Don't despair. He's resting up so he can complete the Grand Slam next year ;)

Sunset of Age
10-01-2008, 10:19 PM
Don't despair. He's resting up so he can complete the Grand Slam next year ;)

That's one great demonstration of Positive Thinking, Catherine! :D
:hug: :hug: :hug:

robinhood
10-01-2008, 10:38 PM
Ah, what a blow to the tourney and to us fans.
I was and still am confused why he even signed up to play this week, but I sure hope he's done what's best for his health.

As for the race for #2.... personally I couldn't care less because at this point in his career, he is going after something so much bigger than that.

I'm glad he lost the top spot, so he has one less to worry about.
Let's leave the rankings to the youngsters to sort out.

Sunset of Age
10-01-2008, 10:43 PM
Hi there Robin... :wavey:

Ah, what a blow to the tourney and to us fans.
I was and still am confused why he even signed up to play this week, but I sure hope he's done what's best for his health.

His health, and his general well-being, is the only thing that truly matters.

As for the race for #2.... personally I couldn't care less because at this point in his career, he is going after something so much bigger than that.

That's true, but I surely wouldn't like to see him lose the #2 spot to Djoko... but well, que sera, sera.

I'm glad he lost the top spot, so he has one less to worry about.
Let's leave the rankings to the youngsters to sort out.

I don't think Roger himself agrees on this point - he's said again that he really wants to get back that #1 spot, and I trust him to be telling his real feelings about this. Realism obviously tells that it will be a hard fight for him to get it back. Even if he never manages it, I'm sure he won't give up the fight just like that, though I fully agree with you that there are more important goals to hunt for - AO 2009, for instance. :)

Minnie
10-01-2008, 10:56 PM
My first reaction at the news was one of sadness at not being able to see him play (even if its only on TV). Then I thought I was just being selfish. Roger's health must come before anything else because without it, he'll never achieve all the dreams he has, and we as his fans have for him. So then I just felt a sense of relief that at last he's taking some time out. To be honest, as someone who was laid low with GF for months on end some years ago, I don't know and can't even begin to imagine how Roger has kept on going throughout this year - and reached 3 slam finals, winning one of them.

It often happens that after achieving something you desperately want (in Roger's case the Olympic gold, the USO and helping to get Switzerland back into the DC World Group) that the body can have an "energy come-down" and tiredness can overtake you. So its no surprise especially after remembering what his condition trainer said some while back.

And if Roger is feeling a little burnt-out, much better that he takes some time out to mentally recoup, recharge etc. Even without his illness, winning 13 GS in a little over 5 years is enough to make any player feel a little mentally jaded I'd have thought. I trust Roger to make the right decisions for him - not for anyone else. I refuse to see anything untoward in his statement ...

One last thing ... I do feel sorry for the Swedish fans who were so looking forward to seeing him play live ...

robinhood
10-01-2008, 11:01 PM
Hey, SD.
First of all, I am sorry that your thread has turned into 'Is Fed going to live at all?' discussions. Sigh....
I hope he recovers soon from whatever it is he has right now.l

I just hope that Fed does not go out of his way to reclaim the top spot.
The slam results and the ranking will go hand in hand, seeing as how he does not have that many points to defend outside the four slams next year.

If he does well in small tourneys, then that will be a bonus.
And NO MORE EXHOS!!! :mad:

Sunset of Age
10-01-2008, 11:14 PM
Minnie, what a beautiful post. :hug:

And if Roger is feeling a little burnt-out, much better that he takes some time out to mentally recoup, recharge etc. Even without his illness, winning 13 GS in a little over 5 years is enough to make any player feel a little mentally jaded I'd have thought. I trust Roger to make the right decisions for him - not for anyone else. I refuse to see anything untoward in his statement ...

:worship: :worship: :worship:

One last thing ... I do feel sorry for the Swedish fans who were so looking forward to seeing him play live ...

I'm sure they'll be able to forgive him - just as I'm equally sure that Roger will one day make it up to them and come over to play the Stockholm tournament. :yeah:

Hey, SD.
First of all, I am sorry that your thread has turned into 'Is Fed going to live at all?' discussions. Sigh....

No need to feel sorry about that, Robin... it just happened, and I just needed a place to vent my disappointment and concerns, like most of us I gather. I'm sure the Good Vibes will be back soon, as they were when Rodge won the USO this year, for the most of us a very pleasant surprise! :D :hug:

I just hope that Fed does not go out of his way to reclaim the top spot.
The slam results and the ranking will go hand in hand, seeing as how he does not have that many points to defend outside the four slams next year.

Exactly, and I'm sure Roger realizes this himself just as much as we do. He's already claimed he wants to fight back for that #1 position, and the best way to do so is... indeed, concentrate on the slams. :)

And NO MORE EXHOS!!! :mad:

Can't possibly express how much I agree on that, however sad it might be for the Cash Machine, and, much more important, the fans in the Far East who barely ever get a chance to see him play live... :(

BigJohn
10-01-2008, 11:23 PM
If all goes well, he skips only this one. The worse that could happen would be a slip to #3, but we are not there yet. (OMG, what GM would be like should that happen... Scary)

So this is just a precaution rest, well at least that is what I convinced myself it was. The main objective is the long term recovery, so this is wise.

All will be fine.

:)

nobama
10-02-2008, 12:23 AM
Great post Minnie. :)

And I agree robinhood....Roger better not show up at those exhos.... :(

Corey Feldman
10-02-2008, 12:44 AM
slight burn out at 27 doesnt sound right :(

i'd be hapy for him to skip Madrid as well, forget the ranking

Basel-Paris with Roger having some good energy in his tank would be an ok way to finish the year - then TMC obviously.

NYCtennisfan
10-02-2008, 12:47 AM
As of right now, there's a lot of hubbub over not that much. It's too bad that he signed up for this because he's not going to be playing smaller tournaments at all pretty soon other than maybe Dubai, Halle, Basel...there's just too much wear and tear on his body after the last 6 years.

Right now, I think he's just not ready to come back and play and after all that's gone down this year and he wants to savor his USO win a little longer.

yanchr
10-02-2008, 02:32 AM
I don't think there is too much to worry about. It's not like he bounced out early in USO and was thinking when he would be ready to play again, or to quit :tape: The victory in USO has done it all for this year. He needs a deserved and well-grounded rest before he says he is ready to go again, for all that happened this year. It's so understandable. And it's good to see he is motivated to get back No.1. Obviously he has set his eyes on the next year already which I'm so excited about.

I wouldn't be surprised if he only plays Basel and Shanghai for the rest of this year. I would be disappointed if he doesn't play Shanghai though :tape:

fedexdelivers
10-02-2008, 03:25 AM
My boss is certainly happy with the news - an extra week(s)? of productivity for me at work.

I would rather Roger not play than play and lose early in Stockholm, thus erasing the return of the "intimidation" factor he put in place in the USO.

I also think that this announcement is a great way to pave the way for regaining the "Roger aura" with the players. If I were a player, I would get the message that 2008 is an atypical year where Roger lost more because he wasn't at 100% fitness. BUT he is working on it and there is every possibility that he will return to full fitness next year, which means he will be playing like he has in 2004 - 2007 AND we all know what that means.

Oh boy, Roger - always with the drama. Let's hope that 2009 will be the year we all expected for 2008.

HarryMan
10-02-2008, 03:35 AM
Very smart decision to withdraw from Stockholm (sorry for the fans, though).

I think we should realize that Roger has a bigger picture now and playing these small tournaments is definitely not one of them. He wants the Majors and getting back the number one ranking. So being 100% healthy is very important for this. Also, he plans to play for a very long time so playing these events dont actually make sense at all.

I wont be surprised if he withdraws from Madrid aswell, I think thats the reason Roger mentioned he isn't sure when he would be playing again this year, so that people won't be that surprised once he announces that he plans to skip Madrid aswell.

I am almost certain he will end up playing only two tournaments, Basel (for his fans) and the Masters cup, and skip everything else. It would definitely help him in the long run and be absolutely fired up for a record breaking season in 2009:D

RogiFan88
10-02-2008, 03:36 AM
apart fr the disappointment for the Stockholm fans [and obviously for the tournament], Rogi is only doing what's best for his health/fitness -- without them, he won't be playing ANY tournament -- he's been needing rest since he got the mono and really hasn't had the recuperation time at all, what w Estoril, Beijing, DC... this 4 wks in October was going to be impossible anyway... let alone for a player who had mono!

I just hope it's nothing serious...

TMC being in Shanghai is just so much travel -- four years in a row, for the players, after a long year!

as for the exo, forget it, Rogi... you've already done your part to promote tennis in Asia last yr w Sampras and look what happened...

Rogi doesn't do the exos for money... this year it's for charity but since TFA won't be there, why bother?? send NTG and Muzza instead!! :lol:

Rogi, get your rest... your body needs it!

don't bother w Madrid either -- you have it already and it will be clay next year and the fans are as rowdy as those Argies that ESP DC team is concerned about... :rolleyes: ! :p

hope he will be able to at least play his home tourney of BASEL...

RogiFan88
10-02-2008, 03:40 AM
and who cares about getting back No 1 this year -- it's too tough... NTG has NO pts to defend in Shanghai and all to gain and now he's playing Vienna [which he won last year -- interestingly, he has NEVER defended any of his titles to date] to gain on Rogi, no doubt... [thank you, Tsonga, for preventing NTG fr winning Bangkok last week!]

Rogi at No 2 is less pressure so put it on the No 1 for a change...

RogiFan88
10-02-2008, 03:41 AM
btw, people who are mad at Rogi for w/drawing fr Stockholm because they think he s play more optionals are missing the point...

refero*fervens
10-02-2008, 06:13 AM
Ah, hope that Roger gets adequate rest and figures out the rest-of-the-year scheduling that will work for him. He's been taking care of himself for these last few years, so it looks like a necessary big-picture thing. Just hope the fans aren't too disappointed but if it all works out there'll be a lot to look forward to. It does seem like a warning for a full-tilt 2009; it's good the team continues to think long-term.



I would rather Roger not play than play and lose early in Stockholm, thus erasing the return of the "intimidation" factor he put in place in the USO.

Indeed. I can imagine the reaction...so if he doesn't feel up to it, it's all for the best.



Oh boy, Roger - always with the drama. Let's hope that 2009 will be the year we all expected for 2008.

Cheers to that. :D

dootsiez
10-02-2008, 08:18 AM
I half expected this, but when it came, it still made me sad. No Roger next week :(

I just hope there's nothing serious going on. At the end of the day, as long as it's simply a wish to get some extra rest (because playing 4 tournaments in 4 weeks is just madness), I support his decision. I don't want Roger to go out of his way to earn ranking points anyway. I do hope he'll come back before the TMC though. I'm starved for some Roger tennis.

bokehlicious
10-02-2008, 11:40 AM
Help remind me not to look in GM for tonight... the haters are out in full-force again. As we all know, any a player can get ill, injured or otherwise not fit to play a tournament - but of course not Roger, he's just digging up excuses ... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I'm done with MTF :o People that I used to appreciate(in the Rafa chat thread) turned into complete assholes since USO :o they're still not over Roger's win... They need to get a life.

BigJohn
10-02-2008, 01:30 PM
Actually, I think that the Stockholm thread in GM is pretty tame, almost uneventful... Of course, there is CD, RFK or Platinum to add their pearls of wisdom.

Nothing too offensive really. More annoying than anything.

bokehlicious
10-02-2008, 01:57 PM
Actually, I think that the Stockholm thread in GM is pretty tame, almost uneventful... Of course, there is CD, RFK or Platinum to add their pearls of wisdom.

Nothing too offensive really. More annoying than anything.

Dumb fangirls (Tangy, Linda, etc.) are far worse than the likes of RFK since they'll never admit being haters, they think they're just being fair and "stating the obvious" :retard: :o

SUKTUEN
10-02-2008, 02:52 PM
will Roger play Madrid? Or just play Basel and Paris and then go to TMC?

BigJohn
10-02-2008, 04:38 PM
Dumb fangirls (Tangy, Linda, etc.) are far worse than the likes of RFK since they'll never admit being haters, they think they're just being fair and "stating the obvious" :retard: :o

But RFK and the gang also think they're fair and stating the obvious... I find Tangy and Linda a lot more fun than those I mentionned. The theories comments brought up so far are more laughable than anything.

Corey Feldman
10-02-2008, 05:42 PM
If Roger skips alot of these end of seasons events and ends up playing that Exho ..... well, i'll say nothing at this time.

nobama
10-02-2008, 05:57 PM
Dumb fangirls (Tangy, Linda, etc.) are far worse than the likes of RFK since they'll never admit being haters, they think they're just being fair and "stating the obvious" :retard: :ol_mac's just being a smart ass. TD actually thinks she's being clever and funny. :o

NYCtennisfan
10-02-2008, 06:28 PM
If Roger skips alot of these end of seasons events and ends up playing that Exho ..... well, i'll say nothing at this time.

He shouldn't play the exho's if he's drained, but one also has to remember that playing an exho is nothing like a real tournament. He could come back and lose at a tournament and it might hurt his confidence while playing an exho doesn't do anything since the results do not count. Training, hitting, practice...everything is different.

BTW, I don't think losing at smaller tournaments is going to hurt Federer all that much from here on out. During this summer and before, there was an inexorable push for #1 by Nadal and after all these years, the pressure was too much week in and week out to keep Nadal from taking the #1. Now, he's been through huge struggles and still won a slam beating two top players. This is the first time that the has struggled for a long stretch and then come back and won a slam. He knows he can do it now and tiny setbacks in best of 3 tournaments won't hurt him all that much.

Sunset of Age
10-02-2008, 07:26 PM
Hi all,

To those thinking there are fans 'mad' or 'panicking' about Roger's withdrawal, neither is the case with me. Being disappointed and yes, even worried, is something entirely different - and you can call me a Goth girl or whatever, but I do believe there is a good reason for me to be worried.
We'll see who's right in just a few weeks time, and I sincerely hope it won't be me!

Dumb fangirls (Tangy, Linda, etc.) are far worse than the likes of RFK since they'll never admit being haters, they think they're just being fair and "stating the obvious" :retard: :o

I think you're spot on here - I rather see straight-forward 'haters' than those who claim to be 'objective' but obviously aren't ... btw, didn't you get along pretty well with them? :confused:

BTW, I don't think losing at smaller tournaments is going to hurt Federer all that much from here on out. During this summer and before, there was an inexorable push for #1 by Nadal and after all these years, the pressure was too much week in and week out to keep Nadal from taking the #1. Now, he's been through huge struggles and still won a slam beating two top players. This is the first time that the has struggled for a long stretch and then come back and won a slam. He knows he can do it now and tiny setbacks in best of 3 tournaments won't hurt him all that much.

Wise words, as always... :yeah:

nobama
10-02-2008, 09:17 PM
He shouldn't play the exho's if he's drained, but one also has to remember that playing an exho is nothing like a real tournament. He could come back and lose at a tournament and it might hurt his confidence while playing an exho doesn't do anything since the results do not count. Training, hitting, practice...everything is different.I don't see the exho as a big deal in terms of health/training/confidence, etc. but it certainly won't look good if he skips tournaments and then shows up to play an exho. I'm sure they could find someone else to take his place. Heck, why not Sampras....he enjoyed doing them last year.

nobama
10-02-2008, 09:58 PM
Pleasant suprise from the Times considering how pro-Nadal they have become the past couple years. I tend to agree with Harman - at most Roger will play Basel and TMC.

From Times Online October 2, 2008

Roger Federer deserves to take a break

Neil Harman, Tennis correspondent
The morning after his remarkable fifth consecutive triumph in the US Open last month, Roger Federer talked about how he had not felt stronger and fresher for a long time - that he believed the old invincibility was flowing back. The chirpy champion looked as if he could have slipped straight into his tennis gear and played a few more sets.

Federer spoke, too about the period at the beginning of the year when he was not feeling at all chipper, about the glandular fever that had affected him and how he had worried about how he should tell the world that he had been suffering from it without any of his words sounding like an excuse for the semi final loss to Serbia's Novak Djokovic at the Australian Open and the first round defeat in Dubai to Andy Murray. When Federer said yesterday that he might not play again this year, it was not that much of a shock, because his twin aims for 2009 are to regain his No.1 ranking from Rafael Nadal and collect a couple of grand slam titles so that he can overhaul Pete Sampras' tally of 14, from which he is currently one removed. This is no time to flog himself to death.

The Swiss - who has withdrawn from next week's Stockholm Open says that it is only 'a hope' that he will return this year, that he has to listen to his body and not try to overdo things. Of the five remaining tournaments he had pencilled on his schedule, two mean the world to him, his hometown event in Basel, which is sandwiched between the Masters in Madrid and Paris. (he does not have to play in either of those, for he has already qualified for the Masters Cup finale in Shanghai) and the final itself for he has forged a strong affinity with the Chinese and their support of the sport.

Of course, a lot of tickets have been sold in several cities on the expectation that Federer will be seen in the flesh and not just his image tied to local lamp-posts. But in Madrid, they are going to present Rafael Nadal with his No.1 world trophy, it is going to be Rafa, Rafa all the way and perhaps Federer could do without having that situation thrust down his throat. Better to keep himself ready for Shanghai, where he will only have to play five times at most, his three group matches and a potential semi final and final. All the matches are best of three sets.

I would expect to see him in Basel, because he simply loves to appear in front of 'his' people and his victory for Switzerland in the Olympic doubles with Stanislas Wawrinka in August meant the world to him. And I am sure he will present himself in China.

But that will be it. Federer will then fly off to to his magnificent pad in Dubai to prepare properly for the blistering Australian summer - it is one of the most important periods of his year, a training block where he gets himself in the right shape for the mental and physical extremities ahead.

He has endured much, achieved much, tolerated much and delivered much this year. If anyone deserves to have a rest, it is Roger Federer.

Sunset of Age
10-02-2008, 10:25 PM
Pleasant suprise from the Times considering how pro-Nadal they have become the past couple years. I tend to agree with Harman - at most Roger will play Basel and TMC.

I was just about to post that one, but you were faster. :p
Indeed, a very nice article, with finally some kind and understanding words for Roger.

Is it just my impression, or have indeed a lot more journos/pundits/people-in-general become a lot more friendly towards Roger during the past couple of weeks? (see the reaction of the New York crowd at the USO to Roger, for instance...) :scratch:

It's the old saying I guess: you only know what you're missing once it becomes clear it won't be there forever... ;)

Federerhingis
10-02-2008, 10:42 PM
I actually think and believe from all stand points this withdrawal is a great thing. Roger seems to be regaining his good form of late and he shouldn't push the issue, I mean come on the guy had mono earlier this year and the aftereffects were lingering for quite some time.

He really should conserve energy recharge and hit these remaining important events full force. By this he will also insure not to burn out going into a new season in '09. I am not complaining nor disappointed at all, we know Roger does not withdraw without a purpose.

Hello all. :bigwave:

Sunset of Age
10-02-2008, 11:01 PM
Hi there Luis! :hug:

I actually think and believe from all stand points this withdrawal is a great thing. Roger seems to be regaining his good form of late and he shouldn't push the issue, I mean come on the guy had mono earlier this year and the aftereffects were lingering for quite some time.

He really should conserve energy recharge and hit these remaining important events full force. By this he will also insure not to burn out going into a new season in '09. I am not complaining nor disappointed at all, we know Roger does not withdraw without a purpose.

Oh, I fully agree with you that this withdrawal isn't per sé a bad thing, and I can surely see your point of view.

What's worrying to me is NOT the withdrawal as such, for all the reasons you mention, but the mere fact that he's stated that he doesn't know when he'll come back - if even ever during the rest of 2008 - ... for the first time EVER.
I can only hope I'm not reading too much into his words, if you get my meaning. :angel:

nobama
10-03-2008, 04:30 AM
Comment from Severin Luthi, and the not so great google translation:

«Es ist noch nicht klar, wie lange die Turnierpause dauern wird», sagte sein Coach Severin Lüthi, der mit ihm derzeit in Dubai weilt. Sie schwitzen, aber nicht am Pool. «Roger erholt sich jetzt, trainiert aber gleichzeitig und entscheidet dann von Woche zu Woche, wann er wieder Turniere spielt. Im Moment ist nichts sicher.»

« It is not yet clear how long the tournament break will take, his coach severinus lüthi, with currently in Dubai here today. You sweat, but not at the pool. « Roger recovers now, trained but at the same and decides then from week to week, when tournaments. At the moment is not sure.

Eden
10-03-2008, 08:31 AM
Here's a statement from Paganini, translated via Google:


Roger Federer est fatigué, pas malade

Pierre Paganini, vous êtes le préparateur physique de Roger Federer. Faut-il s'alarmer lorsqu'il dit: «Pour l'heure, je ne sais pas quand je serai prêt à rejouer»?
Je vous rassure immédiatement, Rod'j est en pleine forme. C'est lui qui, dans son communiqué, a insisté pour préciser: «Je suis heureux d'être de nouveau en pleine santé!» Il tenait beaucoup à ce que cela soit dit.

Et c'est... la vérité?
C'est «la» vérité, il n'y a rien à cacher.

On exclut donc toute rechute de mononucléose?
Absolument!

Mais alors, si tout va bien, pourquoi ne pas jouer?
Parce qu'il vaut toujours mieux prendre des précautions lorsque, justement tout va bien plutôt que d'attendre le pépin. Rod'j a eu des ennuis de santé en début d'année, on le sait. Il a fallu compenser ce déficit en forçant la dose de travail, au détriment des périodes de récupération. Or, comme tous les athlètes de haut niveau, il était habitué à observer un certain rythme. C'est ce rythme qui, par la force des choses, a été brisé. Et qu'il a besoin de retrouver.

Et c'est ce qui l'a décidé à observer une pause...
C'est son choix, en effet. Il veut se donner du temps. Ce qui n'est pas dire qu'il ne fait rien.

Forcément, vous avez dû évoquer la suite. Quand le reverra-t-on sur un court?
La réponse lui appartient... et à lui seul.

Peut-on imaginer qu'il fasse, par exemple, l'impasse sur le Masters de Shanghai, l'ultime grand rendez-vous de l'année?
Nous en avons effectivement parlé. Pour l'heure, c'est comme on dit «ouvert».

Source: http://ubitennis.quotidianonet.ilsole24ore.com/2008/10/03/122587-roger_federer_fatigue_malade_roger_federer_stanco_ malato.shtml

Roger Federer is tired, not ill

Pierre Paganini, you are the physical trainer for Roger Federer. Should we be alarmed when he says: "At the moment I do not know when I'll be ready to play?
I can reassure you immediately, Rod'j is in good shape. It was he who, in his release, insisted explain: "I am happy to be back in full health!" He was anxious that it be said.

And that is ... the truth?
It is "the" truth, there is nothing to hide.

It therefore excludes any relapse of mononucleosis?
Absolutely!

But then, if everything goes well, why not play?
Because it is always better to take precautions when everything is precisely rather than waiting for the seed. Rod'j had health problems earlier this year, we know. It took compensate for the shortfall by forcing the amount of work to the detriment of payback. But like all top athletes, he was accustomed to observe a certain pattern. This pace that, of necessity, has been broken. And he needs to recover.

And that is what has decided to observe a break ...
It's his choice, indeed. He wants to give time. This is not to say it does nothing.

Obviously, you've had to raise more. When the review there on a short?
The answer him ... and that alone.

Can you imagine it to do, for example, the impasse on the Shanghai Masters, the last big year?
We have actually spoken. For now, it's like they say "open".

BigJohn
10-03-2008, 11:42 AM
Here's a statement from Paganini, translated via Google:



Source: http://ubitennis.quotidianonet.ilsole24ore.com/2008/10/03/122587-roger_federer_fatigue_malade_roger_federer_stanco_ malato.shtml

Roger Federer is tired, not ill

Pierre Paganini, you are the physical trainer for Roger Federer. Should we be alarmed when he says: "At the moment I do not know when I'll be ready to play?
I can reassure you immediately, Rod'j is in good shape. It was he who, in his release, insisted explain: "I am happy to be back in full health!" He was anxious that it be said.

And that is ... the truth?
It is "the" truth, there is nothing to hide.

It therefore excludes any relapse of mononucleosis?
Absolutely!

But then, if everything goes well, why not play?
Because it is always better to take precautions when everything is precisely rather than waiting for the seed. Rod'j had health problems earlier this year, we know. It took compensate for the shortfall by forcing the amount of work to the detriment of payback. But like all top athletes, he was accustomed to observe a certain pattern. This pace that, of necessity, has been broken. And he needs to recover.

And that is what has decided to observe a break ...
It's his choice, indeed. He wants to give time. This is not to say it does nothing.

Obviously, you've had to raise more. When the review there on a short?
The answer him ... and that alone.

Can you imagine it to do, for example, the impasse on the Shanghai Masters, the last big year?
We have actually spoken. For now, it's like they say "open".

Rassurant.

He's fine, trying to get back in his rythm, that is all. :)

This explanation makes a lot of sense.

nobama
10-03-2008, 02:38 PM
This was mentioned on rf.com

If Roger was planning to play Madrid wouldn't he have stayed in Switzerland rather than travelling to Dubai? Right now it's about as hot/humid in Dubai as it is when he trains there after Wimbledon. All the fall tournaments he's scheduled to play in are indoors. Seems to me if this was a one week layoff he would have stayed in Switzerland and trained indoors. Switzerland is a lot close to Spain than Dubai is.

SUKTUEN
10-03-2008, 03:07 PM
will Roger also not go to Spain?

Corey Feldman
10-03-2008, 04:16 PM
Well i dont know about the rest of you but from i've read i've lost all hope of him playing anything but the TMC .. even if he plays that at all.

all this talk about a rest - its the end of the season coming up anyway! he's had alot of time of since US open (2 dc matches in between)

just bizarre to me, ranking points pissed away like nothing - yet it was his "big thing" to get the no.1 back

you add the fact he missed all these indoor events in 04 and 05 through injury not to mention his poor record in the Paris event - it seems to me Roger hates the indoor season with a passion.

all this on the back of winning a GS when he started to look his best again, i just dont get it.

i really hope he's not starting to get 'wrapped up in cotton wool' syndrome about himself

Sunset of Age
10-03-2008, 04:23 PM
Well i dont know about the rest of you but from i've read i've lost all hope of him playing anything but the TMC .. even if he plays that at all.

all this talk about a rest - its the end of the season coming up anyway! he's had alot of time of since US open (2 dc matches in between)

just bizarre to me, ranking points pissed away like nothing - yet it was his "big thing" to get the no.1 back

you add the fact he missed all these indoor events in 04 and 05 through injury not to mention his poor record in the Paris event - it seems to me Roger hates the indoor season with a passion.

all this on the back of winning a GS when he started to look his best again, i just dont get it.

i really hope he's not starting to get 'wrapped up in cotton wool' syndrome about himself

Well Mikey, I don't agree with all of what you said (certainly not your last sentence for instance), but I do agree with you that I don't trust these 'reassuring' messages either. It somehow doesn't make sense to me. Of course, I want to believe that all's fine, just tired, etc. - but to me it looks like these comments have come out in reaction to Roger's rather sudden statement that he doesn't know when he's playing again, which has obviously disturbed a lot of people (heck, it was even in my newspaper yesterday!).
Like you said, throwing out all those points just like that, while stating you want to get that #1 position back? Okay, there...

Sorry folks, I'm a rather skeptical one on this matter. Like I said before, I hope I'm TOTALLY WRONG, here. ;)

Sunset of Age
10-03-2008, 04:43 PM
Chill :rolleyes:

It's the frigging Stockholm not US open. Why can't some of you just stay away from these conspiracy theory filled forums? I, for one, am very happy with Roger's recent form and see his withdrawal a wise move. Ranking isn't that big a deal. Nadal deserved the No1 ranking this year, let him have it for a while and all the pressure along with the ranking of course :devil:

I haven't seen any 'conspiracy theory' over here - just people's personal opinions on this matter. Even more, calling it a 'conspiracy theory' is YOUR personal opinion, which you are just as entitled to voice as other people are entitled to voice theirs... :shrug:

Corey Feldman
10-03-2008, 04:48 PM
It's the frigging Stockholm ......... so far.

maybe he will play Madrid and the rest - the reason i think that is, if he had no plan to play Madrid then he'd know in his mind already he wasnt, so why didnt he say he's skipping there as well - in his stockholm statement.

RogiFan88
10-03-2008, 04:51 PM
"it seems to me Roger hates the indoor season with a passion"

is that why he has won 2 Vienna and Basel btb titles, TMS Madrid and TMC Shanghai twice in a row?

:lol:

Corey Feldman
10-03-2008, 04:55 PM
sure, when he turns up he can win them

doesnt mean he likes it

Sunset of Age
10-03-2008, 05:45 PM
Please. You know damn well what I mean.

As I said, it's people's opinion, to which they are entitled. I'd rather not go calling out people on theirs, but if you think you can call people's opinions 'conspiracy theories', than I could call yours 'wearing Pink Glasses' with just as much right. ;)

Shall we just leave it here and accept that different people may have different opinions on things? In the end, none of us really know what's going on. We're sure to find out within a few weeks time.

Corey Feldman
10-03-2008, 05:59 PM
expected one

nobama
10-03-2008, 06:03 PM
Sorry folks, I'm a rather skeptical one on this matter. Like I said before, I hope I'm TOTALLY WRONG, here. ;)Skeptical about what? Roger's health or him wanting the #1 ranking back?

Roger just doesn't skip tournaments for the hell of it (contrary to what some here seem to think). I'm sure there's a valid reason, and it's not something he's required to share with anyone. Right now all we know is he isn't playing Stochkolm. It's one tournament or if more than that, at most a little over a month of not playing. With some of the talk out there you'd think Roger had announced his retirement. :lol:

Corey Feldman
10-03-2008, 06:08 PM
Do you enjoy making bitter hags day?and how did i do that?

problem with you is you are too one dimensional, you cant handle one tiny slight anyone makes about Roger

and i find that sad tbh

you're mad issues with Tangy is your own shit, not mine.

Corey Feldman
10-03-2008, 06:09 PM
I don't know why Escude is so upset. Maybe he/she is going to attend the tournament and expected to see Roger :spit: Or he cares so much about the No1 ranking and/or dislike the current No1 :shrug:who the fuck is this new mug who knows fuck all?

read more into the story arsewipe.

anon57
10-03-2008, 06:21 PM
Anyone know how much truth there is to this article, has any of this actually been mentioned by Roger/ his team or is the author making a story out of one quotehttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article4867155.ece

Sunset of Age
10-03-2008, 06:24 PM
Skeptical about what? Roger's health or him wanting the #1 ranking back?

Both. Can't help it, just my feelings, and I'm in no way 'freaked out' about it. No need to get riled up about it, and I surely don't see why this 'would feed the haters' - why should we even care about them? :shrug: ;)

Roger just doesn't skip tournaments for the hell of it (contrary to what some here seem to think). I'm sure there's a valid reason, and it's not something he's required to share with anyone.

And that's exactly why I am a bit skeptical. Roger didn't want to tell anyone what was wrong with him at the beginning of the year, didn't he? So why would he want to do so now? Anyway, before some A**hat throws me into the 'not-real-Roger-fan'-department again, I emphasize that I sincerely hope that I am *wrong* about the worries I indeed have - and that he's indeed just needing some time to recharge his batteries and that all will be well soon. :)

Right now all we know is he isn't playing Stochkolm. It's one tournament or if more than that, at most a little over a month of not playing. With some of the talk out there you'd think Roger had announced his retirement. :lol:

That's true, of course, but it's not like all's been 'well-and-shiney' this year, so it isn't at all too far off that some people are indeed worried about him. Being worried about him doesn't make one any less of a fan, imho.
Whatever, we'll surely find out in the (hopefully, near) future.

Corey Feldman
10-03-2008, 06:33 PM
Roger's every move will be discussed. That's nothing new. Even if it was "OMG!!!11 Federer's walking down the street!!1!11", people would still find something to criticize.wow, fascinating.

Corey Feldman
10-03-2008, 06:59 PM
you dont even see when ppl like l_mac and Tangy are just saying things to wind up Federer fans like you, and of course you fall right in

unreal you dont even see it :lol:

nobama
10-03-2008, 07:01 PM
Both. Can't help it, just my feelings, and I'm in no way 'freaked out' about it. No need to get riled up about it, and I surely don't see why this 'would feed the haters' - why should we even care about them? :shrug: ;)



And that's exactly why I am a bit skeptical. Roger didn't want to tell anyone what was wrong with him at the beginning of the year, didn't he? So why would he want to do so now? Anyway, before some A**hat throws me into the 'not-real-Roger-fan'-department again, I emphasize that I sincerely hope that I am *wrong* about the worries I indeed have - and that he's indeed just needing some time to recharge his batteries and that all will be well soon. :)



That's true, of course, but it's not like all's been 'well-and-shiney' this year, so it isn't at all too far off that some people are indeed worried about him. Being worried about him doesn't make one any less of a fan, imho.
Whatever, we'll surely find out in the (hopefully, near) future.Just to be clear none of my comments were directed towards you. I think there's a difference between being concerned/worried that somethings not right (like you are), and thinking Roger's giving up, doesn't care, is lazy, or whatever.

Corey Feldman
10-03-2008, 07:11 PM
yeah, you only respond in here.. MOANING about them

like the one slam wonder comments about Roddick all the time you direct at Tangy

one slam more than you, as she would say

Eden
10-03-2008, 07:29 PM
Anyone know how much truth there is to this article, has any of this actually been mentioned by Roger/ his team or is the author making a story out of one quotehttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article4867155.ece

Well, apart from the mentioned statements of Roger in that article we haven't heard anything of him so far. Severin Lüthi has said Roger is practicing in Dubai right now and recovering at the same time. At the moment it won't be sure when he is going to play again.
Today we got a French comment by Pierre Paganini. I translated this one via Google:

Roger Federer is tired, not ill

Pierre Paganini, you are the physical trainer for Roger Federer. Should we be alarmed when he says: "At the moment I do not know when I'll be ready to play?
I can reassure you immediately, Roger is in good shape. It was he who, in his release, insisted explain: "I am happy to be back in full health!" He was anxious that it be said.

And that is ... the truth?
It is "the" truth, there is nothing to hide.

It therefore excludes any relapse of mononucleosis?
Absolutely!

But then, if everything goes well, why not play?
Because it is always better to take precautions when everything is precisely rather than waiting for the seed. Roger had health problems earlier this year, we know. It took compensate for the shortfall by forcing the amount of work to the detriment of payback. But like all top athletes, he was accustomed to observe a certain pattern. This pace that, of necessity, has been broken. And he needs to recover.

And that is what has decided to observe a break ...
It's his choice, indeed. He wants to give time. This is not to say it does nothing.

Obviously, you've had to raise more. When the review there on a short?
The answer him ... and that alone.

Can you imagine it to do, for example, the impasse on the Shanghai Masters, the last big year?
We have actually spoken. For now, it's like they say "open"

anon57
10-03-2008, 07:42 PM
Well, apart from the mentioned statements of Roger in that article we haven't heard anything of him so far. Severin Lüthi has said Roger is practicing in Dubai right now and recovering at the same time. At the moment it won't be sure when he is going to play again.
Today we got a French comment by Pierre Paganini. I translated this one via Google:
Thanks Doris:hug:
I guess we'll just have to wait and see what Roger decides

Eden
10-03-2008, 07:48 PM
Thanks Doris:hug:

Your welcome, Kim :)


I guess we'll just have to wait and see what Roger decides

Exactly. All these speculations at the moment are useless and we better just trust Roger that he knows what is best for him. He isn't on vacation or partying but practicing in Dubai and we all hope that the working will pay out - sooner or later...

Eden
10-03-2008, 08:00 PM
This was mentioned on rf.com

If Roger was planning to play Madrid wouldn't he have stayed in Switzerland rather than travelling to Dubai? Right now it's about as hot/humid in Dubai as it is when he trains there after Wimbledon. All the fall tournaments he's scheduled to play in are indoors. Seems to me if this was a one week layoff he would have stayed in Switzerland and trained indoors. Switzerland is a lot close to Spain than Dubai is.

Well, Roger left to Dubai immediately after the Daviscup as far as I understood. Even if he would have played in Stockholm he would have had about 10 days or more for practicing in Dubai. Maybe he feels he gets the best preparation there and therefore put up with the distance :shrug:

NYCtennisfan
10-03-2008, 08:03 PM
Wow...everyone needs to settle down a bit as there is no need for personal attacks. Federer knows what he's doing and the past 5 years have shown it. I don't think Federer is all that much concerned with what anyone thinks at this point. Might not be the best thing for fans but that's the way it is right now. He's going to try and get everything out of the next few years to secure his legacy.

nobama
10-03-2008, 08:16 PM
Well, Roger left to Dubai immediately after the Daviscup as far as I understood. Even if he would have played in Stockholm he would have had about 10 days or more for practicing in Dubai. Maybe he feels he gets the best preparation there and therefore put up with the distance :shrug:You might be right. I just don't remember him going to Dubai in the past after US Open. But this year hasn't been usual that's for sure. :)

BigJohn
10-03-2008, 10:51 PM
The article with Pierre Paganini provided by Eden was all I needed not to go overgoth about the Stockholm retirement.

Wow...everyone needs to settle down a bit as there is no need for personal attacks. Federer knows what he's doing and the past 5 years have shown it. I don't think Federer is all that much concerned with what anyone thinks at this point. Might not be the best thing for fans but that's the way it is right now. He's going to try and get everything out of the next few years to secure his legacy.

That is it. Next year and beyond is the focus now. I would really prefer if he played a couple of events in order to stay #2. If that does not happen, then 2009 will be nothing less than the year of the Phoenix.

But this year hasn't been usual that's for sure. :)

That is understating it.

Yet, when you compare titles won, GS performance... with the rest of the field, he was still one of the top performers this year.

I know I sound maybe overly optimistic, but with diminished physical abilities and shaken mentally, he's still #2 on the race. And he's now working to fix that. :)

Things are looking up rosy as far as I am concerned.

MrChopin
10-04-2008, 06:45 AM
Wow...everyone needs to settle down a bit as there is no need for personal attacks. Federer knows what he's doing and the past 5 years have shown it. I don't think Federer is all that much concerned with what anyone thinks at this point. Might not be the best thing for fans but that's the way it is right now. He's going to try and get everything out of the next few years to secure his legacy.

This board looks painfully similar to GM's own thread right now. He will skip potentially two MMs and three MSs while telling us what we've all seen clearly the entire year... that he's not in sync. Remember what some were saying before Estoril and Monte Carlo? Or even before the USO, how he should SKIP IT and the rest of the season. Seriously, wtf is going on here.

crude oil
10-04-2008, 06:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khAF-dPEUUY

amazing court view...enjoy!

Rita
10-04-2008, 11:55 AM
:bigcry: what the hell is going on here?:o

rofe
10-04-2008, 02:50 PM
This board looks painfully similar to GM's own thread right now. He will skip potentially two MMs and three MSs while telling us what we've all seen clearly the entire year... that he's not in sync. Remember what some were saying before Estoril and Monte Carlo? Or even before the USO, how he should SKIP IT and the rest of the season. Seriously, wtf is going on here.

It is all Mikey's fault. :p

fedexdelivers
10-04-2008, 05:51 PM
Apparently Djokovic is not playing Vienna so he loses 250 points in the entry rankings (defending a win last year) and doesn't gain any points in the race.

I must admit this makes me smile.

SUKTUEN
10-04-2008, 06:49 PM
thanks for the video, I miss Roger too~~will Roger play in Madrid?

BigJohn
10-04-2008, 06:52 PM
Apparently Djokovic is not playing Vienna so he loses 250 points in the entry rankings (defending a win last year) and doesn't gain any points in the race.

I must admit this makes me smile.

:banana:

ATP site site says next tournament Madrid for the #3 player in the world.

That deserves a second
:banana:

Or Levy
10-04-2008, 07:56 PM
Not smart Djoko, but your loss is our gain.

Federerhingis
10-04-2008, 08:41 PM
Hello my dear friends. I haven't been around these past few days but I read or something at the ESPN site and an article quoted Roger or they insinuated that he wasn't sure he'd play at all for the remaining of the season, after withdrawing from Stockholm? Can some one enlighten me? Any concrete proof of the aforementioned?

:bigwave: :hug: to all.

Corey Feldman
10-04-2008, 08:41 PM
so what?

Nole passes him in Madrid while Roger is still at home skiing for the week

BigJohn
10-04-2008, 10:21 PM
Overreacting...

Corey Feldman
10-04-2008, 10:40 PM
:lol:

nobama
10-04-2008, 10:44 PM
Is this for sure (about Djerk)?

Mechlan
10-04-2008, 11:29 PM
Seriously, people are totally overreacting. :lol:

I think it's pretty lame of him not to have pulled out of Stockholm earlier, but besides that, I'm pretty sure Roger's doing everything he can to make sure he's physically healthy and prepared for the end of this year and next. He's gone through too much this year to piss it all away and lose focus now as some of you seem to believe. :lol:

BigJohn
10-05-2008, 01:44 AM
Is this for sure (about Djerk)?

It still says that #3 player in the world's next tournament is Madrid on the ATP TMC race tracker.

#3 player in the world no longer a player listed on the Vienna/Bank Austria Tennis Trophy website where the #1 seed will be Wawrinka. So I think it is valid information.

So again: :banana:

anon57
10-05-2008, 07:03 AM
Hello my dear friends. I haven't been around these past few days but I read or something at the ESPN site and an article quoted Roger or they insinuated that he wasn't sure he'd play at all for the remaining of the season, after withdrawing from Stockholm? Can some one enlighten me? Any concrete proof of the aforementioned?

:bigwave: :hug: to all.
Hi Luis,
Well there this quote from Roger "At this point, I am not sure when I will be ready to play again, but I hope to be back at some point before the end of the year," and beyond that he hasn't said anything concrete about skipping more tournaments but the quote does make it sound that way.

SUKTUEN
10-05-2008, 04:02 PM
is this thread being a chat thread?:devil:

Daniel
10-05-2008, 04:35 PM
Missing Roger too .
tennis is boring without Roger.

lunahielo
10-05-2008, 04:51 PM
Missing Roger too .
tennis is boring without Roger.

Me, too, Daniel~~I just really miss him.:wavey:

:wavey: to all!

Sunset of Age
10-05-2008, 06:57 PM
Apparently Djokovic is not playing Vienna so he loses 250 points in the entry rankings (defending a win last year) and doesn't gain any points in the race.

I must admit this makes me smile.

Not smart Djoko, but your loss is our gain.

Thanks Djoko. Very considerate of you to dump your ranking points now that Roger isn't playing. :hug:

As for overreacting, I'm rather surprised to see people claim 'so many' people are overreacting on Roger's hiatus. As far as I've seen the only one was Mikey (no offense, Mikey :hug:). People who feel concerned are free to do so, as we still have no idea what's really going on... or isn't that allowed anymore??? :shrug:

Corey Feldman
10-05-2008, 07:52 PM
i'll damn overreact if i feel like it

and i will do alot more in future as well

so you all better get used to it

Sunset of Age
10-05-2008, 07:55 PM
i'll damn overreact if i feel like it

and i will do alot more in future as well

so you all better get used to it

I have no problem at all with people venting their genuine and honest feelings about things, Mikey. :hug:

Rita
10-05-2008, 08:08 PM
Mikey :rolls::rolls:

nobama
10-05-2008, 08:28 PM
Thanks Djoko. Very considerate of you to dump your ranking points now that Roger isn't playing. :hug:

As for overreacting, I'm rather surprised to see people claim 'so many' people are overreacting on Roger's hiatus. As far as I've seen the only one was Mikey (no offense, Mikey :hug:). People who feel concerned are free to do so, as we still have no idea what's really going on... or isn't that allowed anymore??? :shrug:Overreacting and being concerned are not the same thing, IMO. But I agree, there are very few who are overreacting.

BigJohn
10-06-2008, 12:05 AM
:o

Changed my sig... Did not mean any arm.

Corey Feldman
10-06-2008, 01:19 AM
what the hell was it before ?

Federerhingis
10-06-2008, 07:10 PM
Hello dears. Luna, Daniel,Kimberly,Mechlan, Karin, Suki, Mikey, Rita, Jen and John. Howdy! :wavey: :wazzup:

Kimberly thanks so much for the reply. Hmm that quote does make one wonder. Maybe he's getting a little relapse, God forbid that's the case. :hug: :wazzup: How are you dear?

Minnie
10-06-2008, 08:07 PM
Roger is in Dubai ... his condition trainer has recently categorically stated that Roger is healthy - there is absolutely no relapse of mono. I'm relieved Roger has taken this break - I couldn't care less about the No 1 ranking which he realistically has no chance of regaining before the end of this year anyway. I don't even care if he drops to No 3 - I just want him to return when he's ready - and raring to go. I trust his judgements because he knows his body, his health, his mental state more than any of us do. Its 2009 that really counts as far as I'm concerned.

And if I'm honest, I'm glad of the break myself ... I have my DVDs to keep me going until he returns with the added bonus that I don't have to feel all that tension knowing the result before the match starts :lol::lol:

Sunset of Age
10-06-2008, 08:42 PM
Roger is in Dubai ... his condition trainer has recently categorically stated that Roger is healthy - there is absolutely no relapse of mono. I'm relieved Roger has taken this break - I couldn't care less about the No 1 ranking which he realistically has no chance of regaining before the end of this year anyway. I don't even care if he drops to No 3 - I just want him to return when he's ready - and raring to go. I trust his judgements because he knows his body, his health, his mental state more than any of us do. Its 2009 that really counts as far as I'm concerned.

Thanks for the update, Minnie.
Still... I have my doubts and concerns. ;)

And if I'm honest, I'm glad of the break myself ... I have my DVDs to keep me going until he returns with the added bonus that I don't have to feel all that tension knowing the result before the match starts :lol::lol:

And just to add, it allows us all to still get some WORK done in October, :lol:.

Or Levy
10-07-2008, 12:12 AM
Ohhh, Ohhh.

Rogi sighted looking at wedding rings in Dubai!

http://www.gulfnews.com/tabloid/People/10250205.html

Sunset of Age
10-07-2008, 12:23 AM
Ohhh, Ohhh.

Rogi sighted looking at wedding rings in Dubai!

http://www.gulfnews.com/tabloid/People/10250205.html

Well, even if it's not because of an upcoming wedding, why not just because he loves his lady, just like that? :D

lunahielo
10-07-2008, 12:38 AM
Hello dears. Luna, Daniel,Kimberly,Mechlan, Karin, Suki, Mikey, Rita, Jen and John. Howdy! :wavey: :wazzup:

Hello, Luis~~:wavey:

About the rings Roger was looking at in Dubai~~~
With the global economy the way it is...A diamond is probably a good place to invest his money. :):)

SUKTUEN
10-07-2008, 09:50 AM
Well, even if it's not because of an upcoming wedding, why not just because he loves his lady, just like that? :D

:aplot::aplot:I agree~~~~Mirka have a lot of rings from Roger.

Corey Feldman
10-07-2008, 04:26 PM
is he even Gonna show up for Basel?

or shop around more like a right pansy

Sunset of Age
10-07-2008, 04:31 PM
Ohhh, Ohhh.

Rogi sighted looking at wedding rings in Dubai!

http://www.gulfnews.com/tabloid/People/10250205.html

Sheds a whole new light on why he might be skipping those tournaments, no? :D
(nay, I'm merely kidding, but it's a nice thought...)

Mrs. B
10-07-2008, 07:28 PM
is he even Gonna show up for Basel?
or shop around more like a right pansy


he should be there. he has invited his Swiss fans to come and watch him train on Tuesday, Oct. 21. But only those with tickets to the tournament that day are allowed, and he doesn't want to do autographs, nor have pictures taken.

Federerhingis
10-07-2008, 11:19 PM
Roger is in Dubai ... his condition trainer has recently categorically stated that Roger is healthy - there is absolutely no relapse of mono. I'm relieved Roger has taken this break - I couldn't care less about the No 1 ranking which he realistically has no chance of regaining before the end of this year anyway. I don't even care if he drops to No 3 - I just want him to return when he's ready - and raring to go. I trust his judgements because he knows his body, his health, his mental state more than any of us do. Its 2009 that really counts as far as I'm concerned.

And if I'm honest, I'm glad of the break myself ... I have my DVDs to keep me going until he returns with the added bonus that I don't have to feel all that tension knowing the result before the match starts :lol::lol:

Where has it been said explicitly that he's in Dubai? That's great to hear, I personally could care less about Stockholm at this moment and even the two master series events. However if he is to participate at the Masters cup which I am sure he will or would hope to participate, he should get some match practice prior to this event where he has been so successful in past, and it's probably one of the big reasons why he would like to participate and defend his title.

I mentioned the relapse because, you never know, Ancic has had recurring instances and Federer might be no exception, while he seems to be a special case where he recovered promptly as opposed to having the common lingering effects.


Yes the break is very good in my opinion and I rather see him not play at all for the rest of this year and then see him come back next season fresh, renewed, brimming with confidence and banging on all cylinders. :yeah: :lol:

hello dear Federersians. :bigwave: :wazzup: Howdy.

Federerhingis
10-07-2008, 11:23 PM
Hello, Luis~~:wavey:

About the rings Roger was looking at in Dubai~~~
With the global economy the way it is...A diamond is probably a good place to invest his money. :):)

Luna dear. :hug: How goes it your way? Hope all is well and great. :wavey:

Why do you think investing on a diamond ring is a good investment? :aplot: I am quite intrigued to hear this answer. :lol:

Sunset of Age
10-07-2008, 11:48 PM
Hi there Luis! :wavey:

Where has it been said explicitly that he's in Dubai?

He's there alright. Check out the 'articles'-thread. He's been spotted doing shopping with Mirka - checking out diamond rings. ;)

That's great to hear, I personally could care less about Stockholm at this moment and even the two master series events. However if he is to participate at the Masters cup which I am sure he will or would hope to participate, he should get some match practice prior to this event where he has been so successful in past, and it's probably one of the big reasons why he would like to participate and defend his title.

Yeah, the Stockholm-tournament isn't such a big deal. Madrid, however... I'm keeping my fingers crossed and hope for him to show up. But if he doesn't - well we should trust him and his team knowing what they're doing, no?

I mentioned the relapse because, you never know, Ancic has had recurring instances and Federer might be no exception, while he seems to be a special case where he recovered promptly as opposed to having the common lingering effects.

Yes, however sad it is, there's no solid prediction on mono relapses. Can happen to anyone. I trust it's not the case though...

Yes the break is very good in my opinion and I rather see him not play at all for the rest of this year and then see him come back next season fresh, renewed, brimming with confidence and banging on all cylinders. :yeah: :lol:

Not so sure about this, sorry. In the past months, he's been blaming not having had enough time for practice and MATCH RHYTHM for his losses... so unless you follow the R=FK SchoolBook of Light & Logic (:lol:), it doesn't make much sense to me. :shrug:
Of course I completely agree with your point that if this indeed helps him get fully back on track, it's a very good decision indeed. :D

Federerhingis
10-08-2008, 12:10 AM
Hi there Luis! :wavey:

Not so sure about this, sorry. In the past months, he's been blaming not having had enough time for practice and MATCH RHYTHM for his losses... so unless you follow the R=FK SchoolBook of Light & Logic (:lol:), it doesn't make much sense to me. :shrug:
Of course I completely agree with your point that if this indeed helps him get fully back on track, it's a very good decision indeed. :D


Hey there sweet Karin, well it seems from what Eva has updated us that he will be playing in Basel, I had forgotten about his home town tournie, so at least he'l get to play a tournie before the masters cup. :hug: :wavey:

Yes Roger is a rhythm player but not insomuch as lets say a Lleyton Hewitt or a Martina Hingis where their games solely depended on playing a lot and getting thier rhythm that way. I rather him play a tournie before the masters cup and the masters cup before he calls it a season. :p Nevertheless, only Roger knows how much his body can tolerate and or wants of him for the remainder of this season. :unsure:

Sunset of Age
10-08-2008, 12:19 AM
Hey there sweet Karin, well it seems from what Eva has updated us that he will be playing in Basel, I had forgotten about his home town tournie, so at least he'l get to play a tournie before the masters cup. :hug: :wavey:

Yes... that was a relief to read! To be honest I had some moments of fear that he wouldn't be playing anything anymore this year, fortunately it seems that's not going to happen. As such I expect him to appear at least at the TMC, too. :D

Yes Roger is a rhythm player but not insomuch as lets say a Lleyton Hewitt or a Martina Hingis where their games solely depended on playing a lot and getting thier rhythm that way. I rather him play a tournie before the masters cup and the masters cup before he calls it a season. :p

That's true, of course. But still...
Well, just Basel and the TMC sounds good to me. Anything else will only be extra. :)

Nevertheless, only Roger knows how much his body can tolerate and or wants of him for the remainder of this season. :unsure:

Oh, of course. It's quite a miracle already to notice how well he's managed to prevent injuries throughout his career so far, not to mention how he's even managed to play reasonably well regarding that dreadful virus infection... :help:

Might just be me, but I get the impression that his tiredness might rather be mental than physical. Of course, I have no logical explanation for that impression, but I gather that even the strongest of spirit can at some point get weary, especially if you take into consideration all of which he's been going through in this 'tough' year. Roger... :hug:

lunahielo
10-08-2008, 02:02 AM
Luna dear. :hug: How goes it your way? Hope all is well and great. :wavey:
I am fine, Luis, thank you for asking. :hug:

Why do you think investing on a diamond ring is a good investment? :aplot: I am quite intrigued to hear this answer. :lol:

I'll do my best to keep this short. :)

From time immemorial, gemstones have been used as investment pieces. Kings and queens, noblemen and commoners alike have understood the value of investing their wealth in small, easily transportable and concealable gems to cross borders and cultures. Additionally, gemstones and precious metals alike have always been secure means of getting wealth out of countries during political and economic upheavals.

Right now, the world is in a global economy crisis, as we all know~~~high quality gemstones & gold are 2 of the most stable investments at this time..if one has the ability to invest in this way...

When I made the statement about Roger using the diamond as a good investment..I was speaking lightly, but it's really not a bad idea. :)

Luna

fedexdelivers
10-08-2008, 02:45 AM
Apparently Madrid tournament organizers have issued a circular that there will be a No. 1 trophy presentation to Nadal on Oct 12. This gives me the impression (NOT fact) that they already know that Roger won't be playing in Madrid because if Roger can collect points in Madrid, it is mathematically too early for Nadal to get the trophy before the tournament.

Again, just speculation on my part. I can't say I don't hope that I'm wrong - there's being magnanimous about the fact that Roger needs rest and there's the need to watch a tournament with a player called Roger Federer in it. I have to say the latter is winning right now.

nobama
10-08-2008, 02:52 AM
Apparently Madrid tournament organizers have issued a circular that there will be a No. 1 trophy presentation to Nadal on Oct 12. This gives me the impression (NOT fact) that they already know that Roger won't be playing in Madrid because if Roger can collect points in Madrid, it is mathematically too early for Nadal to get the trophy before the tournament.

Again, just speculation on my part. I can't say I don't hope that I'm wrong - there's being magnanimous about the fact that Roger needs rest and there's the need to watch a tournament with a player called Roger Federer in it. I have to say the latter is winning right now.Is this the year end #1 trophy or something special being provided in Madrid? I thoguht the official year end #1 trophy presentation happened at TMC? :confused:

fedexdelivers
10-08-2008, 03:00 AM
This is the quote from a fan post in rf.com:

I've just had a circular from the Mutua Madrileña saying "come to Madrid on Sun 12 Oct at 1.30 pm Rafa Nadal will be presented with the ATP trophy as World Nº 1..

If I'm not mistaken, they present the trophy once the Year-end No. 1 is confirmed - Roger may have gotten it in Basel once. But I could have gotten it mixed up with something else.

I suddenly hoped that it could just be a celebration in Spain that Nadal reached No. 1 but if the quote above is taken literally, it sounds like the year-end trophy.

PLEASE let me be WRONG!

nobama
10-08-2008, 03:01 AM
Pansy... :zzz:

nobama
10-08-2008, 03:05 AM
This is the quote from a fan post in rf.com:

I've just had a circular from the Mutua Madrileña saying "come to Madrid on Sun 12 Oct at 1.30 pm Rafa Nadal will be presented with the ATP trophy as World Nº 1..

If I'm not mistaken, they present the trophy once the Year-end No. 1 is confirmed - Roger may have gotten it in Basel once. But I could have gotten it mixed up with something else.

I suddenly hoped that it could just be a celebration in Spain that Nadal reached No. 1 but if the quote above is taken literally, it sounds like the year-end trophy.

PLEASE let me be WRONG!Hmm...I remember in the past the trophy being presented at TMC, unless this is something different? :confused:

fedexdelivers
10-08-2008, 03:17 AM
I really hope YOU'RE RIGHT and I'M WRONG. ;)

We'll know for sure in a couple of days. Don't we have a Roger tracker that can tell us whether he's still in Dubai or at least somewhere in the European continent?

SUKTUEN
10-08-2008, 03:33 PM
I am not really care where did Nadal get his fu**ing trophy ~~:rolleyes:

Corey Feldman
10-08-2008, 04:03 PM
I am not really care where did Nadal get his fu**ing trophy ~~:rolleyes::haha: :haha: best post i've seen in here for ages :yeah:

Or Levy
10-08-2008, 04:47 PM
:haha: :haha: best post i've seen in here for ages :yeah:

I think Suk just made herself a member of honor in the perv club and didn't even realize that.

:angel:

RogiFan88
10-08-2008, 08:22 PM
I believe that Juanqui may have received his No 1 ATP trophy in Madrid also even tho he became No 1 when he defeated AA at USO that year and did not end the year as No 1 -- Pandy did.

They just choose an appropriately close tourney at which to hand the new No 1 the trophy. When Rogi became No 1 at AO04 SF after HE defeated Juanqui, he probably got HIS trophy in IW or sth like that... can't recall now. Maybe someone else knows... ;)

I just remember Lleyton getting some No 1 trophy at TMC Sydney when he beat Rafter...

Rita
10-08-2008, 09:03 PM
i believe roger got it at the TMC same thing in 2005-07 :confused:

RogiFan88
10-08-2008, 09:11 PM
and in 2004?

nobama
10-09-2008, 12:16 AM
I didn't know you got a trophy for anything other than being YE #1. :confused:

yanchr
10-09-2008, 11:04 AM
I didn't know you got a trophy for anything other than being YE #1. :confused:
You get a trophy just for being No.1. Roger got his No.1 trophy in Rome 2004.

nobama
10-09-2008, 11:15 AM
You get a trophy just for being No.1. Roger got his No.1 trophy in Rome 2004.Ah ok, so then that must be what Nadal is getting in Madrid. Thanks.

Corey Feldman
10-09-2008, 01:39 PM
btw, even Nole had a small chance of catching Nadal doesnt he? if he won Madrid and took a WC for a MM event the next week

he'd need to win all events and hope Nadal loses all matches he plays

SUKTUEN
10-09-2008, 01:57 PM
:haha: :haha: best post i've seen in here for ages :yeah:

:devil::devil:thanks

Rita
10-09-2008, 03:10 PM
roger is probably going to play Bercy he apparently confirmed his hotel reservations (but then again he might just go to paris to do more shopping:o kidding of course:p
here's a link its in french though;)
http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/depeches/sports/20081009.REU2520/tennis_bercy_attend_roger_federer.html

RogiFan88
10-09-2008, 08:34 PM
You get a trophy just for being No.1. Roger got his No.1 trophy in Rome 2004.

thanks, yanchr, they sure waited a long time to present Rogi w HIS No 1 trophy!

fedexdelivers
10-10-2008, 02:05 AM
You get a trophy just for being No.1. Roger got his No.1 trophy in Rome 2004.

Thanks for clearing this up.

I'm pretty psyched that Roger is playing next week!

SUKTUEN
10-10-2008, 03:17 PM
Roger will play Madrid!!!!:eek: