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Federer just said he'd never played Muller before but....

Scotso
09-04-2008, 08:04 PM
Seriously, maybe this is why he's doing so poorly this year, he's forgetting how to play?

Earlier this event he said he'd never heard of Alves.

Now, today, he says he doesn't know much about Muller's game because they've never played before. They've played twice.

:confused:

(and yes, this is a little tongue in cheek, but it's still sad he knows so little about players he even played)

Dupuis2006
09-04-2008, 08:04 PM
In his pre match interview he said he has never played Muller and that it's unusual to play someone in a GS QF that you've never played before but according to ATP H2H they have played twice before. Both times were in 2005. What's up with that? :lol:

Jaap
09-04-2008, 08:06 PM
Who gives a piss?

LleytonMonfils
09-04-2008, 08:09 PM
Yea damn do you expect someone to remember every damn match they have played?

Smasher
09-04-2008, 08:10 PM
Seriously, maybe this is why he's doing so poorly this year, he's forgetting how to play?

Earlier this event he said he'd never heard of Alves.

Now, today, he says he doesn't know much about Muller's game because they've never played before. They've played twice.

:confused:

(and yes, this is a little tongue in cheek, but it's still sad he knows so little about players he even played this year)

This year in Bangkok? It was three years ago actually...

JimmyV
09-04-2008, 08:10 PM
He forgot?

JimmyV
09-04-2008, 08:10 PM
They haven't played for 3 years, wtf do you expect???

elessar
09-04-2008, 08:11 PM
Seriously, maybe this is why he's doing so poorly this year, he's forgetting how to play?

Earlier this event he said he'd never heard of Alves.

Now, today, he says he doesn't know much about Muller's game because they've never played before. They've played twice.

:confused:

(and yes, this is a little tongue in cheek, but it's still sad he knows so little about players he even played this year)
I agree it's sad :sad:

(They didn't play this year :hug:)

Scotso
09-04-2008, 08:11 PM
Yea damn do you expect someone to remember every damn match they have played?

Did you not see the tongue in cheek part?

I do expect him to know whether or not he played someone.

Scotso
09-04-2008, 08:12 PM
The this year part was USA's mistake, not mine. I corrected it.

JimmyV
09-04-2008, 08:12 PM
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We have the ability to cause the extinction of far too many creatures. As of December 4, 1998, a number of conservation groups gathered and formulated a report on the penguin population. They believe that 9 penguin species should have been endangered or were close to being endangered, and 2 more species close to being threatened. Previously, only 5 of the total seventeen penguin species were considered threatened. Based on the above-referenced conservation groups’ statistics, more than 50% of penguin species may be close to endangered. If we do not take an active stand on the protection of these amazing birds, we stand a chance of creating yet another “dinosaur,” available to our children only through history and science books.

wildegirl05
09-04-2008, 08:12 PM
what a great thread :worship:

:secret: this is tongue in cheek too.

Steelq
09-04-2008, 08:15 PM
Federer doesnt have internetz.

Scotso
09-04-2008, 08:17 PM
Federer doesnt have internetz.

:lol:

SheepleBuster
09-04-2008, 08:31 PM
Correction. He said he has never played Muller. But never said Gilles. It could've been the other Muller

Fumus
09-04-2008, 08:33 PM
Federer doesnt have internetz.

He is not teh 1336 + 1

DuMa
09-04-2008, 08:37 PM
Fed doesnt remember playing Nadal either ;)

MIMIC
09-05-2008, 12:34 AM
The mono doesn't allow Federer to use the Internet.

fast_clay
09-05-2008, 01:06 AM
:lol: @ jimmy V

Forehander
09-05-2008, 01:18 AM
You expect a lawyer to remember even the tiniest bit of every single one of his clients?