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maskedmuffin
08-14-2008, 03:46 PM
Well; i decided to start this thread. IF the mods want to close it,they can, but they will just be delaying the inevitable i guarantee you that.

Quite A few of us have felt that this forum is no longer fun to visit, and more importantly, VENT in , because its got fedal fans running around, with their sigs of "love and cuddles" below every one of their posts.

Their posts may be rational, reasonal logical posts

But guess what, those of us who want to vent in a federer ONLY forum, need to have that luxury. We do not as of currently


So this is a thread for those to TALK AS THEY WOULD LIKE TO about federer'sgame NOW, and about his OPPONENTS " game "AS THEY WISH..FREELY"


this is NOT A THREAD TO BASH FEDALS, dont waste your time derailing the thread into that.

but fedals enter at ye risk, cause there will be NO LOVE SHOWN TOWARDS ROGER'S OPPONENTS in this thread. Don't expect your "peace love and respect thy opponent" to be taken to well here; Here we let out the darker side of federer.

Something we wish had currently, a double shot of BALLS SQUARED!

In this thread will go:

a) all roger related talk :sad:
b) all roger opponent related smack talk :D
c) roger psychologist talk :confused:



You guys wanted a vent thread ..YOU GOT A VENT THREAD!

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Go for it

maskedmuffin
08-14-2008, 03:48 PM
fIRST pOST!
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roger blows right now; roger's confidence is shot. the hopi indian looking moonballer looks to have a medal stashed away now that djokovic is losing to monfils; only hope is for blake to show the same testosterone he showed today.
Roger is not just in a funk, his balls were given to him in the 4th set at wimbledon, and then he cut off his own balls in the 5th set with missing his opportunities, his break chance, and more importantly, employing a generally passive approach throughout the match.

His movement is not what it was even 1 year ago and therefore his timing on shots is all sortsa bad since his game is a way more difficult game to execute than anyone else out there, especially the safe playing hopi indian screaming banshee.

Tennis has hit an all time low with an asspicking time stalling generallly boorish-during-matches nadal, who likes to act like a bully on the court towards umpires and other players, now on top;

We can look forward to the time that this dope finally

a) gets caught for doping

b) loses mobility in his own lower body, so we can watch him degenerate into a sad sack of shit like roger has become


the course of action?: get a real fucking coach, who shows him how to tweak his style to sn attacking mentality, play a shit load more of doubles, and become areal net anticipator.

Thats how you get to 13 now. He needs annacone/sampras

no more dipsy-dooing into net

SUKTUEN
08-14-2008, 03:52 PM
is it a tennis skills thread?

maskedmuffin
08-14-2008, 03:55 PM
You can talk about tennis skills if you want

but primarily the goal of this thread is to let the fedtards...ahem federer -only fans...let their hair down and just vent at what they have been seeing over the past few months without feeling like they have to temper language about other players' in the process.

what skill do you want to talk about?

the forehand (which apparently federer has forgotten how to hit)
the backhand (where is the chip and charge????)
or the volley (is that even an art form anymore :confused:)?

maskedmuffin
08-14-2008, 04:51 PM
nadull gets a clown to play; no worries hopefully djoko can WIN so there are 3 hard baseliners and 1 ball retriever in the semi, so he can get his com uppance.

cool bird1
08-14-2008, 04:55 PM
Thsi is wha I think. Roger Federer is shot mentaly. Its almost like I am watching The Roger of 2001 2002. Going for winner far to early and making bad UFE. I have no idea where his net game has gone its almost a joke when he comes to net now ect etc

There I have vented but you know what I still dont feel any better bashing Roger Federer or Nadal is not gonna make you feel any better.

I know total what is gonna make me feel better is when Roger beats Sampras record and Im gonna rember every single person who slagged off Roger and said he was finshed and Im gonna post the biggest IN YOUR FACE Thread. Now that is gonna make me feel great.

maskedmuffin
08-14-2008, 04:58 PM
getting to 13 itself is an issue now cool with his crappy attitude in the match

see how he is playing doubles right now

like a raving lunatic..thats what he needed for singles

jasmin
08-14-2008, 05:15 PM
Thsi is wha I think. Roger Federer is shot mentaly. Its almost like I am watching The Roger of 2001 2002. Going for winner far to early and making bad UFE. I have no idea where his net game has gone its almost a joke when he comes to net now ect etc

There I have vented but you know what I still dont feel any better bashing Roger Federer or Nadal is not gonna make you feel any better.

I know total what is gonna make me feel better is when Roger beats Sampras record and Im gonna rember every single person who slagged off Roger and said he was finshed and Im gonna post the biggest IN YOUR FACE Thread. Now that is gonna make me feel great.


This is how I feel. So for now it's not fun anymore to visit so I come here every blue moon. I mean really...I use to post for some time even though Fed was losing but I didn't know there was so much hate for Federer.

lina_seta
08-14-2008, 05:31 PM
i dont think this thread is a "Federer hate thread".. no way! its more of a "Fed critical analisis" thread...

btw.. ive once initiated a "Vent OUT" thread after a "hard loss" (back in the days of rarely losing) for fed fans to chill without guilt... theres always this pressure to be policitally correct and stuff...

but HEY! this is an internet forum and we, the fans, should be able to vent out our tennis frustrations here! if not here then where else? i reserve a conscious, sensical answer to real life, one-on-one tennis talk.

jasmin
08-14-2008, 05:45 PM
I agree with the venting. I definitely think Fed fans need an outlet. I'm referring to non fed fans who show such hate and joy in his demise. You don't even have to be a fan because there are some non Fed fans who are respectful but so many of his haters have come out to celebrate his downfall. There's no way I would celebrate when Nadal have hard times and it will happen.

Rogieva
08-14-2008, 08:55 PM
My first post will be :

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Daniel
08-15-2008, 09:56 AM
I agree with maskedmuffin.

I never been a fan of the fedal crap.
Here we love Roger and we should be allowed to worship him and criticise him whenever we see fit regardless of the opponents.
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Regarding yesterdays loss. What the hell is going on with you Roger? :smash:

You have no idea what it does to your true fans everytime you lose, the way you lose lately..

:sad: :sad:

Rog1
08-15-2008, 10:12 AM
What a good idea for a thread. Yes, there are times lately when I've been wondering what's been going on inside Roger's complex head, but I'll never know.

My mom thinks that his good days are over and that he needs a new coach too. Well, I just want him to win the USO, but I'm worried about that happening now.

I guess he concentrates too much on off-courts issues these days.........??

Still in the doubles with Stan though

Linda (Luton-UK)

nobama
08-15-2008, 11:28 AM
Seems to me this isn't a thread for Fed fans but for maskedmuffin to spout of BS. By no means am I a Nadal fan and I do have a hard time understanding how someone can be an equal fan of him and Roger. But we really only have one 'fedal' fan who posts here regularly and it's quite unfair to take out your frustration over Roger's slump on her. :rolleyes:

maskedmuffin
08-15-2008, 05:20 PM
Seems to me this isn't a thread for Fed fans but for maskedmuffin to spout of BS. By no means am I a Nadal fan and I do have a hard time understanding how someone can be an equal fan of him and Roger. But we really only have one 'fedal' fan who posts here regularly and it's quite unfair to take out your frustration over Roger's slump on her.





this is NOT A THREAD TO BASH FEDALS, dont waste your time derailing the thread into that.


you are either blind or ignorant

Go away.


Fellow fedtards: What a chokejob this atp tour has become..djokervic missing a fucking overhead to a player playing 15 fucking feet behind the baseline..almost losing to monfils

The decline of mens tennis will continue around the world, including especially in the juniors (all of whom love to emulate the asspicker), and we will be left with a corpse of a sport unless roger gets his head together.

There is no hope for a shotmaker like gasquet..whose completely lost mentally.

Our hope is federer finds the balls he lost bp in the 5th at wimby.

rofe
08-15-2008, 05:36 PM
you are either blind or ignorant

Go away.


Fellow fedtards: What a chokejob this atp tour has become..djokervic missing a fucking overhead to a player playing 15 fucking feet behind the baseline..almost losing to monfils

The decline of mens tennis will continue around the world, including especially in the juniors (all of whom love to emulate the asspicker), and we will be left with a corpse of a sport unless roger gets his head together.

There is no hope for a shotmaker like gasquet..whose completely lost mentally.

Our hope is federer finds the balls he lost bp in the 5th at wimby.

And that should tell you how critical mentality has become in tennis and how far ahead Nadal is in that department.

EternalxJourney
08-15-2008, 10:42 PM
you are either blind or ignorant

Go away.


Fellow fedtards: What a chokejob this atp tour has become..djokervic missing a fucking overhead to a player playing 15 fucking feet behind the baseline..almost losing to monfils

The decline of mens tennis will continue around the world, including especially in the juniors (all of whom love to emulate the asspicker), and we will be left with a corpse of a sport unless roger gets his head together.

There is no hope for a shotmaker like gasquet..whose completely lost mentally.

Our hope is federer finds the balls he lost bp in the 5th at wimby.

Yes, I admit he's had really rough patches this year but he's steadily improving with his new coach by his side. I know it's popular thing here on MTF to put Richard down, to make him the butt of all mental-midget jokes but don't write him off yet. He's no where near done.

maskedmuffin
08-16-2008, 03:29 AM
Yes, I admit he's had really rough patches this year but he's steadily improving with his new coach by his side. I know it's popular thing here on MTF to put Richard down, to make him the butt of all mental-midget jokes but don't write him off yet. He's no where near done.

i dont do it as a derisive ploy

i do it because the guys got the talent to play beauitful tennis, as shown against nadal in toronto, for spurts (against roddick last year)..and then he reverts back to standing 200 feet behind baseline.

When you got such a natural game like he does to follow in and put away shots, why he doesnt work on net anticipation and being an agressive single hander is beyond me.


he could use a brad gilbert/ gil reyes to get his ass in shape- mentally.
to enjoy the fight

lina_seta
08-16-2008, 06:10 AM
What a chokejob this atp tour has become..djokervic missing a fucking overhead to a player playing 15 fucking feet behind the baseline..almost losing to monfils


that shot was an absolute joke!!! a 10 year old would have put that smash away :mad::mad::mad: unfuckinglybelievable

i actually feel very sorry for him... the look in his face right after the loss :sad:... ive been reading that he actually cried?? is it true? you have no idea how painful it is for me to watch the always luck-struck nadal winning and celebrating like a mad animal...

each and every single time i have to see him celebrate like a pig i feel absolutely disgusted.


The decline of mens tennis will continue around the world, including especially in the juniors (all of whom love to emulate the asspicker), and we will be left with a corpse of a sport unless roger gets his head together.


funny, since i just read in youtube while watching the recap of the last pt of the match how this ridiculous kid claimed to be the NEXT AMERICAN RAFA in 10 years...

unfuckinglybelievable

tennis is dying, no doubt... ratings just reflect the public's interest in gruesome combats... the same way they are drawn into watching WWF... (like my friend, who is becoming a nadal fan and she knows sh!t about tennis OR nadal... its just good entertainment)
tennis as an artform and beautiful sport of skill is soon to be dead.

Sparta, this is NOT Tennis :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

maskedmuffin
08-16-2008, 04:08 PM
hopefully roger's gold performance in doubles, wawa too, can lead them to success at the open

oh and gonzo, not a fan of what you pulled against blake, but go out there and whipe the ass of the pig will ya ,mmm k? Just like you did at the A0. If you want to redeem gold bad enough, you will do it nando!

Mrs. B
08-16-2008, 05:53 PM
:)

http://bbs.tennis.com.cn/uploadFiles/2008-08/17_8463282_2.jpg

Daniel
08-17-2008, 12:00 PM
hopefully roger's gold performance in doubles, wawa too, can lead them to success at the open

oh and gonzo, not a fan of what you pulled against blake, but go out there and whipe the ass of the pig will ya ,mmm k? Just like you did at the A0. If you want to redeem gold bad enough, you will do it nando!

Fernando lost and now that pig got a gold medal.

:mad::mad::mad:

maskedmuffin
08-17-2008, 02:42 PM
the only hope of the tour against this pig is for ninja to wake the fuck up, take out his kitana blade, and slice him up.

Because those injuries are only going to start piling up next year. We got 6 more months of this piece of crap banshee until then.


Once those knees go though, oh then it will be a joy to watch him play his "topspin defensive" game

Daniel
08-18-2008, 03:09 PM
It is annoying to see all the attention media puts on Nadal after winning the gold medal and being new #1.

:shout::explode::armed:

maskedmuffin
09-03-2008, 03:46 AM
Roger escaped today, but given the same match 2 weeks before the olympics i think he loses that 2nd set and the match possibly. This match was eerily like that 2003 4th rounder with nalbandian, sans the rain, with david clobbering roger (albeit with backhands up the line rather than the cross court heavy forehand).

The reason i say roger loses this pre-olympics form, is roger learned to actually STAY agressive with the net approaches, something i think the doubles helped him, albeit slightly with.

Perhaps he just needs to pretend that Stan ISNT guarding the line, and it will make his entry to net a little bit, how should i say this, less becker-dasical :D

Roger's intrinsic whippy forehand pulls him off the court, it is such an inside out whip that he needs to be 1, to 1.5 arms length AWAY from the ball to whip that sucker into the corners. This makes his approach even more difficult because he exposes a lot of territory up the line when hitting that whipper

AND, couple the fact that rogi sometimes , for some odd reason, likes to approach directly UP the middle of the court, no less with NO pace, and its like watching target pratice. Reason he does that is when he is feeling in the "blues"..yes i call it roger "blues", he is so disconcerted with his timing that he feels that, he may aswell just hit the SAFEST percentage shot, and approach right up the gut.

Baad idea, especially against folks who are teeing off with their babolite- framed whippy racquets. My god, you felt that andreev could chop off his shoulder with the heaviest of upward thrust and still nothing would come his way in terms of shoulder discomfort. Imagine him trying that with the dunlop mfil 200 :haha:

Roger's game is the game of an artist with the elegance of barishnakov (sp) and michalangelo molded in one.


that is until his timing goes, then it becames a dreadful piece of clunk that is difficult on the eyes as you almost EXPECT error after error.

Because it is such a difficult timing based game to execute, almost even more so than agassi's, without the luxury of the doublehander for leverage to bouy oneself, that BALANCE becomes incredibly important.

Rogi's cat-like gliding comes and goes in patches, and for that we really need to stand up and :worship: his ability to PLAY THROUGH a game that is soo difficult to play through.

He really is a magician, although i could do with a little more DEEP slicing

easier to do against a roger/djoker for sure, since they give the flatter pace to handle.


It is ugly to watch these bablottars smack away with their RYU "shoryuken" imitations with the racquets doing 90% of the work in comparison.

Geez, give these guys the old woodies and see which one stands i say, house money on everyone but federer and to a lesser extent blake making the translation.

still alive for the drive for 5 roger. may the power of tardism power you to #13

Daniel
09-03-2008, 07:06 AM
All the way to # 13 Roger

You will win USO :D :banana:

Or Levy
09-03-2008, 08:32 AM
You know, I'm quite comfortable with some smack talk while the match is going on.

Stuff like "Fucking hell, Roger. What were you thinking with that volley", or "Crap service game again". I do it all the time.

But I didn't see too much to critisize in that five setter, to be honest. He had two loose service games and paid for them, but he also shown himself as a rock under pressure than he had in a long, long while, Andreev had chances - Roger just didn't let him capitalize, he went for his shots on big moments, when he missed - it was because of possitive agressive play. You didn't see too many shots going into the net, some of them missed just wide.

Yeah - too many UFE, but a lot of really brilliant shots and positive play. I thought it was a good match.

maskedmuffin
09-04-2008, 06:07 AM
looks like the asspicker is going to get to the semis, where he will play a tired, and frankly useless, murray (whose junkballs got nothing to hurt the asspicker)

looks like the only person with balls in this tourney to beat him..well 2 of em..in order:
djokovic
federer

and frankly djokovic is going to have to go through hell and roddick

maskedmuffin
09-04-2008, 09:54 PM
solid play by roger today
1) extremely impressed in how he translated anger and contempts of "why is this opponent not going away" towards focus and shotmaking near end of the 1st set tiebreak
amazing point to get that set point, vintage roger shotmaking with the backhand passing shot that was seemingly behind him

2) amazing composure in the 3rd set as well after losing the 4-4 break point opportunities and getting down in the tiebreak; much much different than how he played against simon in toronto


He is going to have to play a whole lot better though, another notch up, if he plays a fresh djoko in the semi..djoko creams the ball and unlike nadul, is a 2 handed backhander one can really idolize in his form and style of hitting (although not in antics).

maskedmuffin
09-06-2008, 07:39 PM
extremely positive play from roger today; Very very very impressed



Today we saw how important the serve is in setting everything off of, and what a huuuge advantage sampras had with a good serve; It takes the pressure off of your own games, makes you feel" unstoppable" on some bigger points,forces your opponent to start going for a little bit too much (thus increasing errors), and allows you to base you entire game off of that

Very impressed with roger's abilty to "relish the fight" as one tennis player once said. The stepank, andreeve, muller matches allowed him to see three different styles of opponents, and in each match there were places of improvements, ESPECIALLY from andreev to muller; We see it again against djokovic

We know novak is a much bigger baseliner when in the grove and rythm, evidenced of his spanking some balls today, but roger really really impressed me with his ability to move laterally on shots and use his VARIETY and SHORT slice to dissect and change up the rythm on novak

Most encouraging was Roger's ability to
a) REBOUND after losing the 2nd set..there was a part of me wondering if fedmug would return and just slither away..but no the fighter was there; I think in many ways the way he can externalize his hatred for djokovic versus his timid approach versus nadull is what is displayed in the differences in head to head; against former he relishes the fight, against latter he feels sometimes that "the shoes gonna come off" and so timing is gonna go anyway, so why even try to change things up

b) work off of his cross court forehand and slice backhand to set up some rippers up the line.

There was even the return of the backhand down the line


Honestly..this is the first time in a long time that after the break in the 3rd, i felt completely relaxed and free and felt roger was playing in a similar relaxed and free manner.
Dare i say, first time since blake at Australian Open that i felt roger was deconstructing opponents like fedex?

Now if only Murray could do the same :mad: Hes beating the nadulll by playing a more positive game and letting the "camper" sit back and sleep 15 feet behind the baseline with some very agressive forehands up the line and penetrating backhands.. He reallly should beat nadull, who basically only wins matches by asking opponents to lower their standard of play instead of raising his to match their shots, shot -for-shot (which by the way federer and djokovic were doing for a while in the crucial third set of the match)

Daniel
09-06-2008, 08:08 PM
Most encouraging was Roger's ability to
a I think in many ways the way he can externalize his hatred for djokovic versus his timid approach versus nadull is what is displayed in the differences in head to head;

I wish he can also externalize hatred for Nadal in the same way and stop being so mentally weak against pig.

maskedmuffin
09-07-2008, 10:21 PM
FINALLY FINALLY FINALLY FINALLY someone beats that camper nadulll by playing an agressive gameplan and moving in between service line and net shot from shot

i was furious in the 4th set when murray started pulling a djoko-fedmug in the 7 bp game in the 4th set...but he HELD firm..BROKE back..and kept with the strategy

which is

POUND IT POUND IT POUND IT..and SLICE IT MIX IT UP..and WHILE doing so...move into the court..keeping nadullll completely off balance..and pounded him to submission



this murray will give federer fits...its going to be a great final

if nadull woulda won then fedmug woulda resurfaced in the final.
..making 600000 million errors on easy shots which Murray kept the pressure on with.

it will come down to murray keeping his cool tomorrow..which i think after this victory he WILL do ..it will be a good final but i think roger is going to be motivated to take back A TITLE this year

maskedmuffin
09-08-2008, 11:54 PM
fedex showed up in glimpses..and he wins
fedex shows up to play net points..and he wins


sense the strategy for 09 rogi?


murray's gameplan was putrid; playing with a nadull gameplan against federer will get you killed...rogi can out knife-slice-and-dice anybody

Congrats GOAT....2 more...let one be at roland garros :D