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trickcy
08-14-2008, 02:20 PM
I know that the Olympics is still going on, and that Roger is playing doubles there, and USO is long away but I still started the USO thread and hope you all don't mind. :wavey:

It's the first thread I'm starting in the Federer Express and here's hoping it brings Roger some luck.

This year hasn't been the greatest for Roger, and the summer hard court season has been abysmal by his standards. And after a long and glorious reign at the top, Roger will be entering the USO ranked #2 in the world. It won't be a pretty sight for a few of us to see [2]Roger Federer but unfortunately at this time, his game doesn't really make a better sight.

Let's all try to be positive. We all know that Roger isn't playing well, but let's try and be a little optimistic. Besides, as the previous tournament thread title said, it'll take more than losing to make us stop supporting Fed. :)

So Allez Roger in NY!!!

EDIT : Some thought that a more optimistic title might be better, and I quite agree :) When I started it, the thoughts weren't too optimistic :o It was along the lines of
"Let's just wait and see how much worse things get :dance: "
"Roger :shout: :shout:, just stick to doubles "

Then it was either the current title or "Darth Federer strikes back..."
I had this absurd desire to post some totally lame title Thankfully, the moment passed :o. If anybody has any other suggestions, it's fine by me :)

Roger :hug: Congratulations on your 13 th grand slam!!! :woohoo:
5th consecutive US Open title!!
The third in the list of people with most grand slam finals!!
The great streak in Semi Finals continuing !!
The streak for most consecutive matches won at Flushing Meadows going strong!!
And a whole lot more!!! :aparty:

Fedfans :hug: It's awesome following a tournament (not just one which Fed wins) with you all :hug: :hug:

Sunset of Age
08-14-2008, 02:22 PM
:yeah:

SUKTUEN
08-14-2008, 02:44 PM
LET'S Roger!!!!:D

Noelman
08-14-2008, 02:45 PM
Good luck, be strong. :)

Rommella
08-14-2008, 03:00 PM
Tee-hee, I can always pretend that he decided to lose to James so he could rest up a bit longer for the USO. At the moment, Djokovic seems to have caught on with Roger's idea.:rolleyes:

Daniel
08-14-2008, 03:12 PM
Good luck Roger!!!

Get ready to win the USO again

:bounce: :bounce:

Rita
08-14-2008, 03:17 PM
:armed:

juninhOH
08-14-2008, 05:24 PM
I'm not looking forward to the USO, but C'MON ROGI!

lina_seta
08-14-2008, 05:34 PM
please play like a mad-man firing up all gears... hes got nooothing to lose really... and expectations are already an all-time low.... hope this helps...

and after the USO, hope he regroups and analyses his game as he promised in an interview....

asienkap
08-14-2008, 05:42 PM
C'mon Roger !

rofe
08-14-2008, 05:44 PM
Come on Roger - fight for #3 ! :o

nobama
08-14-2008, 06:20 PM
Tee-hee, I can always pretend that he decided to lose to James so he could rest up a bit longer for the USO. At the moment, Djokovic seems to have caught on with Roger's idea.:rolleyes:No, Toni Nadal just made sure Djerk is good and tired before he plays Nadal. This way Nadal can win Olypic gold beating guys that have all beaten him on hard court before. :worship:

prima donna
08-14-2008, 06:42 PM
Fuck it.

biological
08-14-2008, 06:54 PM
Allez Roger!

cool bird1
08-14-2008, 07:07 PM
COME ON ROGER

US OPEN CHAMP 2008 :worship::worship::worship:

Rogieva
08-14-2008, 08:57 PM
Sigh...

Please Roger, I want this tournament :sad:

Eden
08-14-2008, 09:02 PM
Call me a blind Federer fan but Roger did always well in best of 5 matches. It will hopefully help him to have a day off between matches and not been forced to play doubles on the same day.
I just hope he is healthy, that's the most important thing.

Viel Glück Roger :)

Rita
08-14-2008, 09:46 PM
I agree i guess we're both blind then:o

cath777
08-15-2008, 12:12 AM
His best results this year have been in the slams, so hopefully he can take it further in the US Open :yeah:

clever1980
08-15-2008, 12:53 AM
Comeon Roger!

feuselino
08-15-2008, 06:41 AM
17 GS SF in a row... last streak on the line! He can do it! Win your 5th consecutive US Open Rog!!

trickcy
08-15-2008, 09:45 AM
Tee-hee, I can always pretend that he decided to lose to James so he could rest up a bit longer for the USO. At the moment, Djokovic seems to have caught on with Roger's idea.:rolleyes:

Me too :D Even though he won his doubles :D
We're not in denial, we're just very selective about the reality that we accept :rocker2:

Come on Roger - fight for #3 ! :o

Is there a chance he could lose #3? :awww:

anon57
08-15-2008, 11:35 AM
Me too :D Even though he won his doubles :D
We're not in denial, we're just very selective about the reality that we accept :rocker2:

:lol:

Is there a chance he could lose #3? :awww:

He's got a reasonable lead on Davydenko and Murray in the race so he should be able to hold on to #3 for the year, he'll have to outperform Djokovic though to still be able to finish #2

trickcy
08-15-2008, 12:49 PM
:lol:

He's got a reasonable lead on Davydenko and Murray in the race so he should be able to hold on to #3 for the year, he'll have to outperform Djokovic though to still be able to finish #2

I don't know if I think Roger can do better than Djoko for the rest of the year or not. Right now, I kind of doubt it. I suppose what it depends on is what Roger does in the break after USO. And his form after that.:(

SUKTUEN
08-15-2008, 03:09 PM
I just want to see Roger fighting back!!!!!!

cool bird1
08-15-2008, 04:41 PM
Just be happy Roger and enjoy tennis agin that is all I want :)

SUKTUEN
08-15-2008, 04:45 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!

I am so happy for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D:D:D:D

NYCtennisfan
08-16-2008, 02:40 AM
Best of 5 should help him, but at this point, anything's possible.

Daniel
08-16-2008, 04:36 AM
Vamos Roger


:bounce: :bounce:
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SUKTUEN
08-16-2008, 05:02 AM
ALLEZZZZZZZZZZZ Roger!!!!!!:bounce::bounce:

trickcy
08-16-2008, 06:41 AM
Hopefully, the doubles win in Olympics makes his mindset better for USO. I know that doubles win might not mean anything in singles, but atleast he looked happy on court again, and not miserable, and standing on that podium with whatever medal should do him some good :D. Let's hope he carries it into singles.. Best of 5 should help him as Doris and Alex said, but you never know.
Hopp Roger!!

nobama
08-16-2008, 10:01 AM
I'm 99% sure Roger won't play doubles at USO but I'd love it if he did. He seems to really be enjoying himself out there. And I think physically he'd be fine to play both. Besides who knows how far he'll go in singles. :unsure:

Art&Soul
08-16-2008, 02:06 PM
Hey I think you shoud change the title to a more optimistic title than a simple US open thread to spice up the confidence, no more pessimistic here people. Come and believe in ROGIGOAT. Alezz ROGELIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

trickcy
08-16-2008, 02:22 PM
Hey I think you shoud change the title to a more optimistic title than a simple US open thread to spice up the confidence, no more pessimistic here people. Come and believe in ROGIGOAT. Alezz ROGELIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I wasn't in too optimistic a mood when I started the thread :o
US Open 2008 isn't pessimistic :shrug: Atleast not as pessimistic as I feel or like the posts in the previous thread :tape: All I could think of was "How much worse could it get? " and I had a feeling it wouldn't be appreciated.
I also thought if
* The Return Of The Ninja and
* Darth Federer strikes back..

If anybody else feels that the title should be changed, I'm all for it :D Just couldn't think of anything else:)

Daniel
08-16-2008, 02:56 PM
I like "The return of the Ninja" option .

Allez Roger :bigclap: :bigclap:

SUKTUEN
08-16-2008, 03:47 PM
ALLEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Roger!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D:D:D

holagirl56
08-17-2008, 02:25 AM
Good luck Roger! Like someone on GM said, Roger looked like a completely new person at the Olympics doubles. It looked like he was rejuvenated and had a new level of energy. I think this doubles match will translate to singles success and he will do well at the USO; maybe not win, but do well.

SUKTUEN
08-17-2008, 09:22 AM
Roger looked like a completely new person at the Olympics doubles?


very good!!!:bigclap::bigclap:

trickcy
08-17-2008, 10:28 AM
Some thought that a more optimistic title might be better, and I quite agree :) When I started it, the thoughts weren't too optimistic :o It was along the lines of
"Let's just wait and see how much worse things get :dance: "
"Roger :shout: :shout:, just stick to doubles "

Then it was either the current title or "Darth Federer strikes back..."
I had this absurd desire to post some totally lame title Thankfully, the moment passed :o. If anybody has any other suggestions, it's fine by me :)


Btw, hopefully Roger's win in doubles gives him confidence in his singles game too and he won't look miserable on court anymore.

Rita
08-17-2008, 01:13 PM
prepared for the worst :sad::scared::o
but hoping for the best:angel:

cool thread title (hopefully he will be back:p)

rofe
08-17-2008, 01:23 PM
NinjaFed won't return in the USO but I like the positive title. He simply doesn't have time to make that happen. He needs to go back to the drawing board and assess the state of his game during the off-season.

The best I can hope for is a fresh start in 2009.

juninhOH
08-17-2008, 02:11 PM
thanks god there is a 1 month break right after the USO, lets hope he can regroup from there. Right I just wish he doesn't lose in the first roudns, because he would like lose a LOT of points.

SUKTUEN
08-17-2008, 03:54 PM
Roger, hope you have healthy and confidence in USO!!!

trickcy
08-17-2008, 04:45 PM
NinjaFed won't return in the USO but I like the positive title. He simply doesn't have time to make that happen. He needs to go back to the drawing board and assess the state of his game during the off-season.

The best I can hope for is a fresh start in 2009.

I don't quite think he'll return either :sad: but we may as well as wish for it :awww:
That time comment is very very true. I hope he either does well after the break after USO, or takes an extended break after USO, and comes back in top form next year.
I just want that forehand back... But for that, the movement too has to be back, and there's not enough time to work on that.

thanks god there is a 1 month break right after the USO, lets hope he can regroup from there. Right I just wish he doesn't lose in the first roudns, because he would like lose a LOT of points.
I wish he wouldn't lose too early too.. Besides doing no good to his confidence, he will be losing a lot of points. He hasn't managed to defend a SINGLE title this year..

prepared for the worst :sad::scared::o
but hoping for the best:angel:

cool thread title (hopefully he will be back:p)
Same here :sad:
But still hoping and hoping..
As someone once said, "In the end, the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the journey" :angel:

RFederer90
08-17-2008, 06:33 PM
What will be the Roger's kit for the US Open???

Rita
08-17-2008, 06:37 PM
What will be the Roger's kit for the US Open???

some thing HOT i suppose :hearts:
i think he's gonna stick with the usual dark outfit:confused: not sure

Sunset of Age
08-17-2008, 06:43 PM
Good luck Roger! Like someone on GM said, Roger looked like a completely new person at the Olympics doubles. It looked like he was rejuvenated and had a new level of energy. I think this doubles match will translate to singles success and he will do well at the USO; maybe not win, but do well.

My thoughts exactly, or at least my hopes.
More than any 'result', I hope to see him back on court there being happy and enjoying playing his game again! :D

Corey Feldman
08-17-2008, 06:47 PM
Dont wont to be the killjoy but...

i wont let the doubles fool me, that just sealed over the cracks as they say (altho it was a great achievment in itself)

i wanna see an improved attitude from him in NY... it will be pretty much easy to see if he's got a chance to win this Open in his 1st two matches for me.

so lets see

nobama
08-18-2008, 03:50 AM
Dont wont to be the killjoy but...

i wont let the doubles fool me, that just sealed over the cracks as they say (altho it was a great achievment in itself)

i wanna see an improved attitude from him in NY... it will be pretty much easy to see if he's got a chance to win this Open in his 1st two matches for me.

so lets seeYep, let's see when he's all alone on court. As you say we'll know quickly whether there's a 'new and improved' Fed out there or not.

Alex999
08-18-2008, 04:18 AM
You all know I'm a big Nole fan. However, I really hope to see Roger playing his best tennis again. I would be happy if he won the USO. I just love aggressive players. I can watch his matches all day long and never get bored :). Go Roger. I appreciate your style now more than ever.

lina_seta
08-18-2008, 07:04 AM
CMON rodge ALLEZ!!!

marat_roger
08-18-2008, 07:32 AM
prepared for the worst :sad::scared::o
but hoping for the best:angel:

cool thread title (hopefully he will be back:p)

same here:sad:
Good Luck Roger :D

Another RogFan
08-18-2008, 09:10 AM
You all know I'm a big Nole fan. However, I really hope to see Roger playing his best tennis again. I would be happy if he won the USO. I just love aggressive players. I can watch his matches all day long and never get bored :). Go Roger. I appreciate your style now more than ever.

Very kind of you! Thank you!

Seeing more people appreciate the game as well as the person is very good. And if I have to return the words Djoko is another person who keeps the tennis game alive while Nadal tries to turn it into body building contest.

Go Roger!!!

trickcy
08-18-2008, 09:42 AM
You all know I'm a big Nole fan. However, I really hope to see Roger playing his best tennis again. I would be happy if he won the USO. I just love aggressive players. I can watch his matches all day long and never get bored :). Go Roger. I appreciate your style now more than ever.

Thanks for coming over here and saying that :) I'm glad Novak got a medal as well.. I'm not a huge fan of his, but I was quite sad to see how disappointed he was after his semifinal. so I'm quite happy he got a medal. :)

The qualifications are starting from 19th, and the singles draw will be out on Thursday, Aug 21, right?

Daniel
08-18-2008, 02:39 PM
:bounce: Vamos Roger :bounce:

Sunset of Age
08-18-2008, 02:55 PM
You all know I'm a big Nole fan. However, I really hope to see Roger playing his best tennis again. I would be happy if he won the USO. I just love aggressive players. I can watch his matches all day long and never get bored :). Go Roger. I appreciate your style now more than ever.

:hug: that's very nice of you to say!

I am happy that Djoko got the bronze, after seeing him lose so dreadfully in the semis. I wondered what that loss would do to his mindset, but apparently he put it away and took care of business in the match against Blake. :yeah:
So, congrats on your guy, too!

Venle
08-18-2008, 03:09 PM
Us Open very soon!

I hope we'll some real Roger Federer there ;)

Allez!

Venle
08-18-2008, 03:10 PM
You all know I'm a big Nole fan. However, I really hope to see Roger playing his best tennis again. I would be happy if he won the USO. I just love aggressive players. I can watch his matches all day long and never get bored :). Go Roger. I appreciate your style now more than ever.

Very nice of you :hug:
I hope there'll be success for Nole too! ;)

SUKTUEN
08-18-2008, 05:12 PM
when will be the draw come out?
Friday?

elessar
08-18-2008, 06:47 PM
This thread title is too optimistic for my liking :(
Maybe something like : "hopefully the return of the Ninja will get him through the first round" would be more appropriate :sad:

Or just : "Roger you're gonna suck but we still love you :hug:"

EDITED because I'm in a happy shiny mood :inlove: :
"Go Roger, whatever results you achieve or ranking you own, you'll always be our nr1" :inlove:

Sunset of Age
08-18-2008, 07:05 PM
This thread title is too optimistic for my liking :(
Maybe something like : "hopefully the return of the Ninja will get him through the first round" would be more appropriate :sad:

Or just : "Roger you're gonna suck but we still love you :hug:"

EDITED because I'm in a happy shiny mood :inlove: :
"Go Roger, whatever results you achieve or ranking you own, you'll always be our nr1" :inlove:

:lol: The version under the edit for me, please. :angel:

Or Levy
08-18-2008, 07:43 PM
Holding my finger crossed for Roger. He needs to get this year back on track, and winning the open seems like a good way to do it.

Maybe coming in as number 2 would help him.

riddle05580
08-18-2008, 09:39 PM
when will be the draw come out?
Friday?

The draw will be out on Thursday.:D

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/draws/ms/index.html?promo=leftnav
Check back on Thursday, August 21st for the 2008 men's singles draw.

lina_seta
08-18-2008, 10:50 PM
oi so nervious
hopefully this time he gets a tough draw... cuz everytime he gets a cakewalk he loses...

and judging from the record of this year it looks like destiny favors the unlikely path (doubles to gold...?!)

RFederer90
08-19-2008, 08:44 AM
A question...Will Federer be the No 2 seed at the USO or not??

Thanks for your answers! :)

Venle
08-19-2008, 09:11 AM
A question...Will Federer be the No 2 seed at the USO or not??

Thanks for your answers! :)

I'd say yeah :)

Oh, it shall be weird seeing Rog in the bottom half of the draw :help:

trickcy
08-19-2008, 09:54 AM
This thread title is too optimistic for my liking :(
Maybe something like : "hopefully the return of the Ninja will get him through the first round" would be more appropriate :sad:

Or just : "Roger you're gonna suck but we still love you :hug:"

EDITED because I'm in a happy shiny mood :inlove: :
"Go Roger, whatever results you achieve or ranking you own, you'll always be our nr1" :inlove:

:rolls:
I wish Fedtards would agree :awww:
I made a simple US Open 2008 title since I wasn't optimistic, and people were asking for something optimistic, so I go ahead and put up one of the most optimistic things I can think of, and now you say it's too optimistic :ras: :p
Atleast I added a "hopefully" :D
I like the one after the edit, but that goes without saying :cool: :p

I'd say yeah :)

Oh, it shall be weird seeing Rog in the bottom half of the draw :help:
Very weird :(

As for hoping Rpger gets a tough draw :scared: I don't think so..
He's losing to just about any top player these days, isn't he? :bigcry: But then again, he hasn't done too well with cupcake draws, so.. :scratch:

Mario and Baggy aren't in the USO, right? Anybody else who's pulled out?

nobama
08-19-2008, 11:57 AM
According to the article below, apparently there were discussions within Team Fed about taking a long break after the US Open, but knowing that for sure would put Roger behind Djerk in the rankings it was rejected.

http://www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/panorama/olympia_tennis-doppel_federer_wawrinka_wunderbare_verdopplung_des _gluecks_1.808635.html

And someone on rf.com posted that Pierre Paganini said Roger was feeling tired during the practice sessions in Beijing. The mono might be completely gone but I think Roger's still feeling the after effects of it, plus because of the Olympics he's not had any time to get in practice/training sessions like he usually does.

juninhOH
08-19-2008, 01:54 PM
I think thats bullshit. Roger will have a month break after the US Open (I think he has to play one davis cup match, not sure). He will have some time to work I guess.

nobama
08-19-2008, 02:17 PM
I think thats bullshit. Roger will have a month break after the US Open (I think he has to play one davis cup match, not sure). He will have some time to work I guess.
What's bullshit? OK so Roger will have time off AFTER US Open but it's a fact he hasn't had the chance to train/practice like he normally does in February and July. And I believe that has had an effect on his results to date. I guess the long break will happen anyway because after US Open outside of the DC tie he's not playing until the middle of October.

ExpectedWinner
08-19-2008, 02:27 PM
According to the article below, apparently there were discussions within Team Fed about taking a long break after the US Open, but knowing that for sure would put Roger behind Djerk in the rankings it was rejected.



I think it'll be hard for him to outperform Joker for the rest of the year, esp. if he loses early at the Open.

Sunset of Age
08-19-2008, 02:34 PM
Holding my finger crossed for Roger. He needs to get this year back on track, and winning the open seems like a good way to do it.

:yeah:

Maybe coming in as number 2 would help him.

I don't think it will make any difference... judging on his level of playing of the past two months at least, he's been the #2 for quite a while already. :shrug:

BTW, in general, I wouldn't mind seeing a little less negativity and pessimism around here... it does look as if a lot of people are writing him off. Now I don't mind seeing that all too much in GM (well... actually I do, but I understand there's not much to do about that, regarding the ZOO-state GM is in again), but can we just try and keep up a bit of a positive spirit in here? Give the guy some time to get back on track? Even if he does bail out of the USO early, I'm not giving up on him. :wavey:

juninhOH
08-19-2008, 04:41 PM
What's bullshit? OK so Roger will have time off AFTER US Open but it's a fact he hasn't had the chance to train/practice like he normally does in February and July. And I believe that has had an effect on his results to date. I guess the long break will happen anyway because after US Open outside of the DC tie he's not playing until the middle of October.

I agree with that that you said completely, its just that I thought a about 'taking a long break' as stopping for 4 months, and I just don't think Roger would do that. I wish he would not play the DC tie at all, and really rest like 3 weeks to refresh a bit.

SUKTUEN
08-19-2008, 05:07 PM
Roger!! Good Luck in USA!!!

nobama
08-19-2008, 05:58 PM
BTW, in general, I wouldn't mind seeing a little less negativity and pessimism around here... it does look as if a lot of people are writing him off. Now I don't mind seeing that all too much in GM (well... actually I do, but I understand there's not much to do about that, regarding the ZOO-state GM is in again), but can we just try and keep up a bit of a positive spirit in here? Give the guy some time to get back on track? Even if he does bail out of the USO early, I'm not giving up on him. :wavey:I suppose those that are pessimistic would say they're just being realistic, not sugar coating anything. But I agree there's a bit too much doom and gloom.

Sunset of Age
08-19-2008, 06:22 PM
I suppose those that are pessimistic would say they're just being realistic, not sugar coating anything.

Oh, and they might well be right about that. It's just that I think I already read enough negativity and such in GM, and besides that, I have to admit it makes me miserable for a bit.
I guess the more pessimistic realistic ones out here think I'm wearing Pink Glasses, but be assured I am not. I can see the trouble just as much as anyone else. But I rather decide to 'keep the faith' than to rub in the negativity all the time.

But I agree there's a bit too much doom and gloom.

Yeah. "It ain't over till it's over", as Lenny Kravitz once sang! :D

RFederer90
08-19-2008, 08:03 PM
It's not so good for me to see

Roger Federer (SUI)[2]

Sunset of Age
08-19-2008, 08:15 PM
It's not so good for me to see

Roger Federer (SUI)[2]

:hug:
As long as he doesn't slide down further to being #3, it doesn't make any difference to the seedings. Take that as a positive way to look at things! :D

lina_seta
08-19-2008, 08:52 PM
:rolls:


As for hoping Rpger gets a tough draw :scared: I don't think so..
He's losing to just about any top player these days, isn't he? :bigcry: But then again, he hasn't done too well with cupcake draws, so.. :scratch:

Mario and Baggy aren't in the USO, right? Anybody else who's pulled out?

following up on my logic (or illogic?) a second reason that roger SHOULD get a tough draw is that if hes gonna lose anyways then id rather have him lose to a worthy opponent... lets not add to the list of "ultra-nobodies who beat fed) ;)

Sunset of Age
08-19-2008, 09:11 PM
following up on my logic (or illogic?) a second reason that roger SHOULD get a tough draw is that if hes gonna lose anyways then id rather have him lose to a worthy opponent... lets not add to the list of "ultra-nobodies who beat fed) ;)

Hah, I fully agree with you here, as cruel as that sounds!
Just like you say - no more MUGS to beat Rogi! :yeah:

(and besides that, I would really like to see those ungoing :retard: 'rigged draw'-discussions finally come to an end as well. :angel:)

NYCtennisfan
08-19-2008, 09:20 PM
I think if he does poorly at the USO i.e. loses before the QF (new standard for 'poor' for him I think), and Djoker gets to the finals, SF's or wins, it will be very hard for FEderer to finish #2 so he might just shut it down.

Sunset of Age
08-19-2008, 09:26 PM
I think if he does poorly at the USO i.e. loses before the QF (new standard for 'poor' for him I think), and Djoker gets to the finals, SF's or wins, it will be very hard for FEderer to finish #2 so he might just shut it down.

Why would he 'shut it down' in such a case? My knowledge of tennis in no way matches yours, but if I'm sure about just ONE thing, it's that Roger isn't the character to pull a Borg... :shrug:

Shall we make a bet on that? ;)

MrChopin
08-19-2008, 09:41 PM
I think if he does poorly at the USO i.e. loses before the QF (new standard for 'poor' for him I think), and Djoker gets to the finals, SF's or wins, it will be very hard for FEderer to finish #2 so he might just shut it down.

Losing before the QF would be really poor; R4 is kind of the make-or-break round. I think the best of five will help him get there, unless he gets a "rough" draw with a guy that can consistently hit him off of the court. He's been really inconsistent of late in his losses, but I don't think that even Fed's mental funks are long enough to knock him out here; even if he blows a set and then gets angry (Tipsarevic AO), he will still have the time to pull it out.

If he does go down before the quarters, I agree with at least a month long regroup and workout period, maybe even emerging only to play Paris as warmup to TMC.

Federerhingis
08-19-2008, 10:50 PM
Hah, I fully agree with you here, as cruel as that sounds!
Just like you say - no more MUGS to beat Rogi! :yeah:

(and besides that, I would really like to see those ungoing :retard: 'rigged draw'-discussions finally come to an end as well. :angel:)


I third this. I mean losing to Ivo and Fish, that's just pathetic, no offense to them. :o

Federerhingis
08-19-2008, 10:52 PM
Why would he 'shut it down' in such a case? My knowledge of tennis in no way matches yours, but if I'm sure about just ONE thing, it's that Roger isn't the character to pull a Borg... :shrug:

Shall we make a bet on that? ;)

Karin I think Alex meant for this season. Or at least I suppose. :scratch:

Sunset of Age
08-19-2008, 10:56 PM
Karin I think Alex meant for this season. Or at least I suppose. :scratch:

Oops. I might well have misunderstood. Yeah, this season is a goner, of course - I can only hope for Roger to make up for it at the USO for a tiny little bit, but I'm not counting on it to happen!

How are you doing, Luis? All's well? :D

Federerhingis
08-19-2008, 11:03 PM
Oops. I might well have misunderstood. Yeah, this season is a goner, of course - I can only hope for Roger to make up for it at the USO for a tiny little bit, but I'm not counting on it to happen!

How are you doing, Luis? All's well? :D


All is well my dear, thanks. :hug: I am having a laugh with myself from time to time, I am currently taking an inorganic chemistry workshop and it really was a good idea that I took this workshop. Gosh I've been out of school for almost three years and it seems like eternity, I had even completely forgotten about the "significant figures" and scientific notation. :o

Besides I took inorganic chem serioulsy only in high school when we really didn't learn much. :tape: :lol:

Otherwise all is well and I am enjoying my return to studenthood, at least for now, when the work seems light and there seems to exist little stress. How are things in the netherlands? Is the weather cooling up?

Sunset of Age
08-19-2008, 11:10 PM
Inorganic Chemistry. Oh dear. OINK! :p
I was better at the organic subjects, to be honest.

The weather in the Netherlands right now? You don't want to know. :umbrella: :umbrella: :umbrella: :help: http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/sick001.gif http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/sick001.gif http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/sick001.gif

Fortunately, in the second week of September, I have a nice trip to the South of France planned again, to my BF's parent's house there... I can do with a little bit of SUN, to be honest. :D

Federerhingis
08-19-2008, 11:16 PM
Inorganic Chemistry. Oh dear. OINK! :p
I was better at the organic subjects, to be honest.

The weather in the Netherlands right now? You don't want to know. :umbrella: :umbrella: :umbrella: :help: http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/sick001.gif http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/sick001.gif http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/sick001.gif

Fortunately, in the second week of September, I have a nice trip to the South of France planned again, to my BF's parent's house there... I can do with a little bit of SUN, to be honest. :D

I am sorry to hear about the not so pleasant weather in Dutchland. :hug: It seems only natural, the continental continent really never warms up that much. Which country is rainier Britain or the Netherlands? :lol: For some reason it has always seemed to me they seem to compete for that coveted price. :tape:

Wow that is fantastic, your bf has french in his blood? Oh la la! :lol:

Sunset of Age
08-19-2008, 11:22 PM
Which country is rainier Britain or the Netherlands? :lol: For some reason it has always seemed to me they seem to compete for that coveted price. :tape:

They do. SEA CLIMATE, eh. At least the temperature is quite okay, I haven't taken out a coat since somewhere around April at least. Might have to do a bit with my age, though. :lol:

Wow that is fantastic, your bf has french in his blood? Oh la la! :lol:

Well, my BF's parents are pretty loaded, and have invested quite a bit of their cash in a nice home in La Douce France a very long time ago. Not actually having French blood, but they do manage the language pretty well (my BF is actually horrible at that, :tape: :lol:) - and they are very friendly people, and offered us and a couple of my Bridge Friends to stay over there for free! :D :D :D

We're going to have quite a bit of fun over there, I ensure you...
And yes, there's an internet connection over there as well... :D

Federerhingis
08-19-2008, 11:36 PM
They do. SEA CLIMATE, eh. At least the temperature is quite okay, I haven't taken out a coat since somewhere around April at least. Might have to do a bit with my age, though. :lol:



Well, my BF's parents are pretty loaded, and have invested quite a bit of their cash in a nice home in La Douce France a very long time ago. Not actually having French blood, but they do manage the language pretty well (my BF is actually horrible at that, :tape: :lol:) - and they are very friendly people, and offered us and a couple of my Bridge Friends to stay over there for free! :D :D :D

We're going to have quite a bit of fun over there, I ensure you...
And yes, there's an internet connection over there as well... :D


Magnifique as the french would say! Europe has amazing internet connections, it's pathetic how lagging the fiber optics is in the US. :rolleyes:

Is that near Nice? What a name "The sweet France" As if those croissants and patiserries weren't already sweet enough. Gosh I miss France so much. Europe for that matter, I loved every minute of my stay in Europe during the summer of '04. Switzerland, Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany are in my top list whenever I step on european soils again.

«Ivan»
08-19-2008, 11:39 PM
:wavey:to all
According to the article below, apparently there were discussions within Team Fed about taking a long break after the US Open, but knowing that for sure would put Roger behind Djerk in the rankings it was rejected.

that's good.my basic favourite is nole but i'm huge federer and verdasco fan.
i have wrote here once,i think karin(saw her name,silly to call girl stupid dream,sorry)was very nice to me.
anyhow,you guys have all my support,god and hard work will help roger to climb up again in a place where he belongs.
as i have seen in nole forum most of his fans,like alex love grande rock roger.
level of disussion here is very refreshing,i must admit.bless you all.
i have quoted post member #mellow yellow because i have a question for you-i guess you dislike nole,respect to that,but do you find calling him djerk bit offensive to him and his fans?
thank you for your answer in advance.
if you guys don't mind i would like to rest here from general messages once in a while.

Federerhingis
08-19-2008, 11:43 PM
:wavey:to all

that's good.my basic favourite is nole but i'm huge federer and verdasco fan.
i have wrote here once,i think karin(saw her name,silly to call girl stupid dream,sorry)was very nice to me.
anyhow,you guys have all my support,god and hard work will help roger to climb up again in a place where he belongs.
as i have seen in nole forum most of his fans,like alex love grande rock roger.
level of disussion here is very refreshing,i must admit.bless you all.
i have quoted post member #mellow yellow because i have a question for you-i guess you dislike nole,respect to that,but do you find calling him djerk bit offensive to him and his fans?
thank you for your answer in advance.
if you guys don't mind i would like to rest here from general messages once in a while.


Hey there chooper! :wavey: Wie gehts?

Sunset of Age
08-20-2008, 12:00 AM
Magnifique as the french would say! Europe has amazing internet connections, it's pathetic how lagging the fiber optics is in the US. :rolleyes:

It's still not optimal here either... ;)

Is that near Nice? What a name "The sweet France" As if those croissants and patiserries weren't already sweet enough. Gosh I miss France so much. Europe for that matter, I loved every minute of my stay in Europe during the summer of '04. Switzerland, Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany are in my top list whenever I step on european soils again.

It's over here: Pont du Gard (http://www.inntravel.co.uk/walking/garddiary.htm) - Collias, France. Somewhere in between Montpellier, Arles, and Nîmes, on the border between the Provence and the Languedoc. :D
Collias is situated on the border of the Gardon River, where you can hike, canoe, swim, etc. A lovely place! :worship:

:wavey:to all

that's good.my basic favourite is nole but i'm huge federer and verdasco fan.
i have wrote here once,i think karin(saw her name,silly to call girl stupid dream,sorry)was very nice to me.

Hi there Chooper! :D
"Stupid Dream" is one of my music fav's best albums. This particular band, to be exact: http://www.porcupinetree.com/ - their leader being the fantastic composer, singer, guitarist, producer, etc.,
Mr. S.W., as us fans dub him. Check out his music, and be pleasantly surprised! :D


anyhow,you guys have all my support,god and hard work will help roger to climb up again in a place where he belongs.
as i have seen in nole forum most of his fans,like alex love grande rock roger.
level of disussion here is very refreshing,i must admit.bless you all.
i have quoted post member #mellow yellow because i have a question for you-i guess you dislike nole,respect to that,but do you find calling him djerk bit offensive to him and his fans?
thank you for your answer in advance.
if you guys don't mind i would like to rest here from general messages once in a while.

You know, not all posters like the same fellows over here. And fortunately, it seems to be allowed over here, not to share all our favourites. As for me, it's obvious who my favs are. I admit I once was a Djoko-hater as well, but finding out a bit more about the fellow has surely soothened my opinion about him.

In all, I don't have much talent for hatred at all anymore... I think we should be able to give all of the players the credits where they are due. But that is only my opinion, and it's not worth anymore than anyone else's, no? ;)

Federerhingis
08-20-2008, 12:06 AM
Okay dear Karin I gotta go now, have to finish my chem homework before I leave for home and then lose motivation, especially after seeing how my bed and turning on my tv would be a better alternative. :tape:

See you all later. :wavey: Good night. laterzzzzzzzzzzz...

See you around Chooper. :wavey:

Sunset of Age
08-20-2008, 12:16 AM
Okay dear Karin I gotta go now, have to finish my chem homework before I leave for home and then lose motivation, especially after seeing how my bed and turning on my tv would be a better alternative. :tape:

Have a good night's sleep, and best of luck with your chem homework! :wavey:

There'll be plenty of long night staying ups for me to come next week, :lol:.

SUKTUEN
08-20-2008, 03:57 AM
is Roger in NY now right?

trickcy
08-20-2008, 06:03 AM
Suktuen,
On RF.com, they said that Roger partied till 7 am after winning his doubles gold and then immediately left for New York.. So I think he'll be there by now.

Oh and a fan there reported that he had a closed session of practice in AA.

Daniel
08-20-2008, 07:02 AM
Roger will win the USO :bounce: :bounce:

Venle
08-20-2008, 07:31 AM
Suktuen,
On RF.com, they said that Roger partied till 7 am after winning his doubles gold and then immediately left for New York.. So I think he'll be there by now.

Oh and a fan there reported that he had a closed session of practice in AA.

Roger partying, cool! :worship:

lina_seta
08-20-2008, 07:41 AM
:wavey:to all

that's good.my basic favourite is nole but i'm huge federer and verdasco fan.
i have wrote here once,i think karin(saw her name,silly to call girl stupid dream,sorry)was very nice to me.
anyhow,you guys have all my support,god and hard work will help roger to climb up again in a place where he belongs.
as i have seen in nole forum most of his fans,like alex love grande rock roger.
level of disussion here is very refreshing,i must admit.bless you all.
i have quoted post member #mellow yellow because i have a question for you-i guess you dislike nole,respect to that,but do you find calling him djerk bit offensive to him and his fans?
thank you for your answer in advance.
if you guys don't mind i would like to rest here from general messages once in a while.

:wavey::wavey: welcome aboard!

i see we have more fans exchange this season :D
ive been lurking in nole's forum too..

rest assured that roger fans are most of the time respectful...just fervently supporting our man. Unlike the general forum where a a bellicose atmosphere reigns its all support here =) isnt it so nice?

Venle
08-20-2008, 07:45 AM
Very weird :(

As for hoping Rpger gets a tough draw :scared: I don't think so..
He's losing to just about any top player these days, isn't he? :bigcry: But then again, he hasn't done too well with cupcake draws, so.. :scratch:

Mario and Baggy aren't in the USO, right? Anybody else who's pulled out?
Kinda :bigcry:

Roger can win the USO, even if he has a tough draw :) He has our support :hug:

Baggy out. Not good :awww:

:wavey:to all

that's good.my basic favourite is nole but i'm huge federer and verdasco fan.
i have wrote here once,i think karin(saw her name,silly to call girl stupid dream,sorry)was very nice to me.
anyhow,you guys have all my support,god and hard work will help roger to climb up again in a place where he belongs.
as i have seen in nole forum most of his fans,like alex love grande rock roger.
level of disussion here is very refreshing,i must admit.bless you all.
i have quoted post member #mellow yellow because i have a question for you-i guess you dislike nole,respect to that,but do you find calling him djerk bit offensive to him and his fans?
thank you for your answer in advance.
if you guys don't mind i would like to rest here from general messages once in a while.

Sure you can come here, welcome :hug:

Another RogFan
08-20-2008, 07:49 AM
:wavey:to all

that's good.my basic favourite is nole but i'm huge federer and verdasco fan.
i have wrote here once,i think karin(saw her name,silly to call girl stupid dream,sorry)was very nice to me.
anyhow,you guys have all my support,god and hard work will help roger to climb up again in a place where he belongs.
as i have seen in nole forum most of his fans,like alex love grande rock roger.
level of disussion here is very refreshing,i must admit.bless you all.
i have quoted post member #mellow yellow because i have a question for you-i guess you dislike nole,respect to that,but do you find calling him djerk bit offensive to him and his fans?
thank you for your answer in advance.
if you guys don't mind i would like to rest here from general messages once in a while.

I used to hate him, but lately my opinoin have started to change - actually he is more player than athlet wich is good for tennis. He is not very popular because of his spontaneous overreacting but mainly because of his parents /they look and act like typical rednecks/ . Keeping them away will help him a lot. That's all I can say about him in RF thread.
I see both Roger and Novak as a main competitors in near future.
And thank you for supporting Roger !

Rita
08-20-2008, 10:54 AM
Mario and Baggy aren't in the USO, right? Anybody else who's pulled out?

Lubijcic and Hewitt as well

«Ivan»
08-20-2008, 01:41 PM
thank you guys(lina_seta and stupid dream for green rep).
federerhigins,thanks to you too.
at first i have to apologize,my german is questionable because my family as from mixed nationalities(croat and serb,bit of hungary)moved to koln during 1990s form ex-yugoslavia and i went to english school.
but i don't like nole because he's serb or mario because he's croat.
i love their game,roger's too.verdasco is:drool:
good thing is nole got rid of parrents lately and their influences.
at least it seems so.
i know most of them because they are,now and then,teachers in our camp,during the summer usually.
i love shine respect between players.
real pro's but very nice guys.
funny was nole-roger match-training for us way apart from media,like best friends.
seems they solved everything bad between them.

:wavey:

Xristos
08-20-2008, 03:53 PM
Lubijcic and Hewitt as well

I sure Baggy will play..

SUKTUEN
08-20-2008, 04:22 PM
Suktuen,
On RF.com, they said that Roger partied till 7 am after winning his doubles gold and then immediately left for New York.. So I think he'll be there by now.

Oh and a fan there reported that he had a closed session of practice in AA.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh~~~

Roger is in a hurry~~

GOOD Luck for the draw!!
GO Roger!!:bounce::bounce:

nobama
08-20-2008, 05:57 PM
Apparently the RE was delivered to Roger today so he's for sure in New York practicing.

From rf.com
Hi Everyone

Laura just called from NY to say that those magic words:
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!

We didn't talk for too long because I was driving at the time :roll: but she sounded very excited and oh so happy that she had been able to see him and speak with him. She said he was as sweet as always and when she asked him how he was he said he was pretty tired from the long flight from Beijing.

He practised for a while - altho' don't ask me for how long or with whom....such things I'm sure we'll find out soon enough. But she just wanted me to post and let everyone know that he was looking great and was his usual wonderful friendly self!

Hugs
Carol

nobama
08-20-2008, 05:57 PM
I sure Baggy will play..
I heard he withdrew. :confused:

RFederer90
08-20-2008, 06:35 PM
First photos??? :)

riddle05580
08-20-2008, 11:19 PM
Apparently the RE was delivered to Roger today so he's for sure in New York practicing.

From rf.com

So glad to hear that Roger's doing well in NYC.:D

mangoes
08-20-2008, 11:28 PM
Why is Ljubicic and Baggy out?? I just read on GM that Hewitt had hip surgery, but what has happened to those two??

anon57
08-20-2008, 11:36 PM
I'm not entirely sure what is wrong with Baghdatis but I think Ljubicic is having problems with his back, he's had some problems with his back since Umag, I think.

Sunset of Age
08-20-2008, 11:41 PM
I'm not entirely sure what is wrong with Baghdatis but I think Ljubicic is having problems with his back, he's had some problems with his back since Umag, I think.

Ljubicic indeed injured his back on one of those MM tournaments (sorry, can't remember which one) he recently played. :sad:
As for Baggy... where has he been, the past few months? :confused: :sad: :sad: :sad:

anon57
08-20-2008, 11:50 PM
Ljubicic indeed injured his back on one of those MM tournaments (sorry, can't remember which one) he recently played. :sad:
As for Baggy... where has he been, the past few months? :confused: :sad: :sad: :sad:
:scratch:I have no clue what's up with Baghdatis, he was out for most of the clay season played RG and Wimbledon, and has been out since Wimbledon, I thought I read that he was having problems with his wrist but I don't know to be honest:confused:.

rofe
08-21-2008, 03:56 AM
I looked at the photos in the USO photos thread and what stood out for me is how Severin Luthi is with Roger all the time. He must be earning a lot of money. Does he fill in the "coach" role when Higgy is not around or is he just the hitting partner? Also, I wonder what happened to his banker friend (his name escapes me right now)? By some accounts, he was supposed to be Fed's "coach" during his coachless days.

soraya
08-21-2008, 04:01 AM
Ahhh! Sheryl, your sig is priceless.

riddle05580
08-21-2008, 05:27 AM
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/articles/2008-08-20/200808201219270513718.html

The Draw Ceremony for the 2008 US Open will take place on Thursday, August 21, 2008 at The New York Times Center in Manhattan at 11 a.m. Eastern time.

Actually, I don't think the draw will matter that much these days.:p But I still hope Roger will have a decent draw.

SUKTUEN
08-21-2008, 03:19 PM
Good Luck Roger in NY!!!!

GOD Please Bless Roger play his good tennis !!!!

the draw will come out about 30 mins later~~

Daniel
08-21-2008, 03:20 PM
Hope Roger gets an easy draw. :clap2:

SUKTUEN
08-21-2008, 03:44 PM
not come out yet:rolleyes:

lina_seta
08-21-2008, 03:52 PM
Apparently the RE was delivered to Roger today so he's for sure in New York practicing.

From rf.com

i was reading that...
WHAT IS THE "RE"???????????? that was delivered to roger?
i cant figure out :sad: since im not a regular in rf forums.
i hope its the golden congratulatory envelope they were talking about!

SUKTUEN
08-21-2008, 03:58 PM
RE???????????? :confused:

Sunset of Age
08-21-2008, 03:59 PM
RE???????????? :confused:

Red Envelope, the envelope with best wishes for Roger which is given to him at every tournament. :D

lina_seta
08-21-2008, 04:04 PM
Red Envelope, the envelope with best wishes for Roger which is given to him at every tournament. :D

what happened to the idea of the golden one? i really liked that

SUKTUEN
08-21-2008, 04:05 PM
Red Envelope, the envelope with best wishes for Roger which is given to him at every tournament. :D

Oh I understand now!!!
the envelope be GOLDEN in USO? :eek:That's great!!!!:D:D

neenah
08-21-2008, 04:21 PM
Red Envelope, the envelope with best wishes for Roger which is given to him at every tournament. :D

That's such a thoughtful idea. :)

Sunset of Age
08-21-2008, 04:26 PM
That's such a thoughtful idea. :)

It's lovely indeed - Doris (:hug:) was the one to hand it over to Roger at Halle, and I was with her - and it of course ended up to be one of the BEST memories of my Tennis Life, meeting Roger and all! :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

SUKTUEN
08-21-2008, 04:49 PM
where is draw~~oh no~~I need to sleep

souhem
08-21-2008, 04:55 PM
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Top seed Rafael Nadal will begin his bid for a first U.S. Open title next week against a qualifier, after the draw was made at The TimesCenter in New York on Thursday.

The Spaniard, who on Monday ended Roger Federer's four-and-a-half year reign at the top of the world rankings, is looking to win his third grand-slam title of the year, having triumphed at the French Open and Wimbledon.

Should the seedings go to plan, Nadal will face 13th seed Ivo Karlovic in the fourth round, with a potential quarter-final against seventh seed David Nalbandian.

Second seed Federer, bidding to emulate American 1920s hero Bill Tilden by winning the title for five straight years, opens his campaign against world number 114 Maximo Gonzalez of Argentina.

The Swiss could play third seed Novak Djokovic in the semi-finals, a repeat of last year's final, while Nikolay Davydenko would be his seeded opponent in the last eight.

Djokovic, who won his first grand-slam title at the Australian Open at the start of this year, plays Frenchman Arnaud Clement in the first round.

In the women's event, top seed and world number one Ana Ivanovic, looking to add a first U.S. Open crown to her French Open title, begins against Russian Vera Dushevina.

Should the seedings go to plan, she would face French Open runner-up and Olympic silver medalist Dinara Safina in the quarter-finals.

neenah
08-21-2008, 05:09 PM
It's lovely indeed - Doris (:hug:) was the one to hand it over to Roger at Halle, and I was with her - and it of course ended up to be one of the BEST memories of my Tennis Life, meeting Roger and all! :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

Wow, what a great experience. :D I'm still waiting to see Roger in real life closer than from the cheapest seats in Arthur Ashe :rolls:

Sunset of Age
08-21-2008, 05:11 PM
Wow, what a great experience. :D I'm still waiting to see Roger in real life closer than from the cheapest seats in Arthur Ashe :rolls:

Believe me, the best EVER. And Roger is indeed very kind and friendly in person. :worship:

Gotta go now folks. :wavey:
Have fun with discussion the draw - :lol: - I bet it will end up in yet another trainwreck on GM, even if Djoko is on Fed's half this time (not that it makes any difference to me - to be the champion, you will have to beat ALL opponents, so no draw whinage from me! ;))

RFederer90
08-21-2008, 05:22 PM
Noooooooo, Djoko in the semis!!! :(

And what about a PDF of the draw???

juninhOH
08-21-2008, 05:43 PM
yes, no draw whinage from me too

I'm just sad because well, after that article where Paganini said Roger is a bit tired, I kind of gave up on him this USO. I don't think he can win it anymore. Now if Nadal doesn't win it I'm happy. Even if Djokovic wins it, I will be happy hehe. I just don't want Nadal to have the possibility of winning the 'Nadal Slam'.

It seems like Nadal is winning everything Roger loves the most lol =]

souhem
08-21-2008, 05:56 PM
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/draws/ms/msdraw.pdf

rofe
08-21-2008, 06:07 PM
yes, no draw whinage from me too

I'm just sad because well, after that article where Paganini said Roger is a bit tired, I kind of gave up on him this USO. I don't think he can win it anymore. Now if Nadal doesn't win it I'm happy. Even if Djokovic wins it, I will be happy hehe. I just don't want Nadal to have the possibility of winning the 'Nadal Slam'.

It seems like Nadal is winning everything Roger loves the most lol =]

As I said, a QF would be a good result for Roger at the USO given his current mental and physical state. Nadal is riding an incredible hot streak so I won't be surprised to see him bite the trophy.

RFederer90
08-21-2008, 06:33 PM
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/draws/ms/msdraw.pdf

Thanks! :worship:

lina_seta
08-21-2008, 06:37 PM
[QUOTE=juninhOH;7532167]

Now if Nadal doesn't win it I'm happy. Even if Djokovic wins it, I will be happy hehe. I just don't want Nadal to have the possibility of winning the 'Nadal Slam'.
[QUOTE]

yes absolutely... its not about roger winning USO this time.. its about nadal losing it :mad:
everything roger hold the dearest was taken away from him by nadal :o... im sick of it... "if roger wants it so bad, it must be good, no? now i want very bad too." he ursurped roger in wat was supposed to be his year :sad:
(called me a whiner, a bad loser, or watever.. but that resentment wont go away.. this is how many fans feel for sure... and this is prob how some fans start disliking/hating other players [roddick fans hating roger])

souhem
08-21-2008, 06:59 PM
No problem! ;-)

Mrs. B
08-21-2008, 08:13 PM
Good luck, Roger!

Rogieva
08-21-2008, 08:45 PM
Seeing Roger as [2] for the first time in my life :bolt:

Rogieva
08-21-2008, 08:49 PM
Okay, I will try and break this down :devil:

1R: Gonzalez
2R: Qualifier
3R: Stepanek :unsure:
4R: Verdasco
QF: Gasquet / Davydenko
SF: Djokovic / Roddick
F: Murray/Nalbandian/Nadal

Daniel
08-21-2008, 09:23 PM
Roger's half

Andy Roddick USA (8) v Fabrice Santoro FRA
Ernests Gulbis LAT v Thomas Johansson SWE
Guillermo Garcia-Lopez ESP v Dominik Hrbaty SVK
Hyung-Taik Lee KOR v Andreas Seppi ITA (31)

Nicolas Kiefer GER (20) v Ivo Minar CZE
Scoville Jenkins USA v Jarkko Nieminen FIN
Bobby Reynolds USA v Qualifier
Ivan Navarro ESP v Fernando Gonzalez CHI (11)

Tommy Robredo ESP (15) v Mischa Zverev GER
Vincent Spadea USA v Marat Safin RUS
Qualifier v Carlos Moya ESP
Santiago Ventura ESP v Jo-Wilfried Tsonga FRA (19)

Marin Cilic CRO (30) v Julien Benneteau FRA
Robby Ginepri USA v Amer Delic USA
Qualifier v Nicolas Mahut FRA
Arnaud Clement FRA v Novak Djokovic SRB (3)

Nikolay Davydenko RUS (5) v Dudi Sela ISR
Austin Krajicek USA v Agustin Calleri ARG
Albert Montanes ESP v Victor Hanescu ROU
Eduardo Schwank ARG v Dmitry Tursunov RUS (26)

Nicolas Almagro ESP (18) v Frank Dancevic CAN
Sam Warburg USA v Janko Tipsarevic SRB
Laurent Recouderc FRA v Qualifier
Tommy Haas GER v Richard Gasquet FRA (12)

Fernando Verdasco ESP (13) v Igor Kunitsyn RUS
Qualifier v Qualifier
Frederico Gil POR v Jeremy Chardy FRA
Marc Gicquel FRA v Igor Andreev RUS (23)

Radek Stepanek CZE (28) v Potito Starace ITA
Jesse Levine USA v Chris Guccione AUS
Qualifier v Qualifier
Maximo Gonzalez ARG v Roger Federer SUI (2)

Well it is a decent draw.
He has beaten all those clown before so he will have to do it again.

Vamos Roger :worship:

Federerhingis
08-21-2008, 09:51 PM
I agree if Roger makes the quarterfinals without much of a hurdle that would be a decent result, given his current form and mental state.

Technically it's not even that horrendous of a draw, now of course these days anyone is a potential danger. :o

NYCtennisfan
08-21-2008, 09:56 PM
Draws only matter when an elite player is playing at his best. Otherwise, every draw is hard for every player wo could theoretically lose in any round.

This is a pretty good draw for Federer. Stepanek is there and of course Djoko in the SF's, but every match win right now is a good one.

yanchr
08-21-2008, 10:46 PM
Very balanced draw. Good luck to Roger.

Federerhingis
08-21-2008, 11:55 PM
I agree Laura. :hug: :wazzup: How are you dear? Still busy?

nobama
08-22-2008, 12:04 AM
OK I think I am going to barf. http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/2191_throwing_up.gif

http://adage.com/article?article_id=130492

Nike Hires Don King to Trumpet Tennis Showdown
New Campaign Portrays Nadal and Federer As Boxing Rivals
By Michael Bush

Published: August 21, 2008

NEW YORK (AdAge.com) -- Tennis has always had its share of loudmouths, some of the more memorable being Ilie Nastase, Jimmy Connors and, of course, John McEnroe. But for its most "significant" tennis campaign in years, Nike is bringing out the most loquacious and vociferous loudmouth of them all -- Don King. Tennis will never be the same.

Nike tonight kicks off its "Grapple in the Apple" campaign behind next week's U.S. Open with a boxing-match-style media event featuring Mr. King and the sport's No. 1- and No. 2-ranked players, Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer, respectively. The two have met in the finals of the last two Grand Slam events, the most recent of which was an epic five-set, four-hour battle at Wimbledon in July, which many have called the greatest tennis match in history.

And in this corner ...
Never one to miss an opportunity, Nike, which has endorsement deals with both players, is looking to capitalize on the attention this rivalry has recently brought to the sport by touting a potential finals showdown between the two at the U.S. Open as a heavyweight prize fight. The players have even been given boxer-type nicknames: Roger "The Magician of Precision" Federer and Rafa "Matador of Spin" Nadal.

The sneaker giant would not disclose the cost of the campaign but described it as the most significant tennis campaign it has done in quite some time.

Ken Dice, Nike's VP-U.S. brand management, said tennis has always been an important part of the company's global brand but the focus of its efforts has more recently been on tennis enthusiasts.

"But coming out of this summer's tennis activity, our feeling is it was time for Nike to take that approach and make it a little broader," he said. "We may be seeing two of the best players ever go at it in a way that tennis hasn't seen in a while. And it's time to see how that transcends from the most loyal tennis fan to [all other] sports fans or anyone who follows pop culture. The underlying idea is that we make sure all of New York knows about this. We are asking them to pick a side, and hopefully people will get engaged and start talking about it."

An insightful personality
To do that, Nike and its brand group is working with longtime creative agency Wieden & Kennedy and Don King Productions. Mr. King is not only serving as the mouthpiece for the campaign but as a creative partner as well. "We worked with Wieden to develop the Don King idea, and when we brought Don in we restructured our original idea around some of his insights," Mr. Dice said.

Nike, long known for its innovative marketing approach and collaborative efforts when it comes to the design of its products, saw this as an opportunity to take both of those aspects to "another level."

"How often do we bring a third creative partner to the table with a veteran marketing agency and shake things up by saying, 'Hey! We have this idea and we think you can help us. Can you help us make it bigger and better than the two of us could normally do on our own?'" Mr. Dice said. "And Nike has always been about collaboration with its athletes. So we brought in a promotional expert to help promote the U.S. Open and this rivalry in a way that maybe we haven't done in a very long time."

The effort will include print executions in local newspapers, a digital component and outdoor advertising. The effort will also incorporate wild postings and street teams. "We'll also use the viral-video space to make sure that for the next two weeks we continue to push messages celebrating Roger, Rafa, the U.S. Open and New York City," Mr. Dice said.

While Mr. Dice said the campaign "isn't about a shoe launch" and more about "capturing the excitement of tennis in New York for the next two weeks," Nike will use tonight's event to showcase the gear that both players will be wearing during the tournament.

The risk for Nike is that both players don't make it to the finals. American Express had that exact situation unfold a few years back when Andy Roddick, the focus of a major ad effort by Amex leading up to the U.S. Open, lost in the first round.

Win or lose, its good PR
"We're keeping our fingers crossed that they do meet -- that's the whole point, and we honestly think that they will, especially the way they have been playing lately," Mr. Dice said. "[But] even if they don't, it will be a great moment for Nike, tennis and these two players and the city of New York."

Eric Wright, VP-research and development, Joyce Julius & Associates, which specializes in measuring the impact of corporate sponsorships, said the campaign will ensure Nike gets seen during the tournament.

"Those ads serve a lot of purposes, and one of them is ensuring that [Nike] doesn't get shut out of the tournament," he said. "I suppose you run the risk of a little egg on the face if they don't have a great performance, but we're still talking about that Amex deal all these years later. We're still talking about the brand -- it's not in the greatest way, but it's still generating buzz all this time later."

yanchr
08-22-2008, 12:06 AM
I agree Laura. :hug: :wazzup: How are you dear? Still busy?
Luis :hug: Yeah, still very busy. I hope I can watch Roger in USO though...:wavey:

:secret: Not good to be here too often during my office hours :p

Federerhingis
08-22-2008, 12:18 AM
Luis :hug: Yeah, still very busy. I hope I can watch Roger in USO though...:wavey:

:secret: Not good to be here too often during my office hours :p


Sweety: :hug: :kiss: Don't worry one bit.

:secret: I do it all the time, :o :tape: I know but technically I have to be online. I am encharged of registering and must have access to the internet as well as program databases for the department I work for. ;)

:awww: You busy woman, hopefully you'l get a much needed break sooner than later. :hug:

nobama
08-22-2008, 12:21 AM
Roger's USO outfit courtesy of downthelinetennis.com

Day matches
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_GWJatwb-WlI/SKzlmEtx_CI/AAAAAAAAEMg/VkQ4l4tqt8k/s400/nike+us+open+08+federer+look+2.jpg

Night matches

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GWJatwb-WlI/SKzobRG6lNI/AAAAAAAAEMo/U6scO4XSisA/s400/nike+us+open+08+federer+look+1.jpg

yanchr
08-22-2008, 12:34 AM
Sweety: :hug: :kiss: Don't worry one bit.

:secret: I do it all the time, :o :tape: I know but technically I have to be online. I am encharged of registering and must have access to the internet as well as program databases for the department I work for. ;)

:awww: You busy woman, hopefully you'l get a much needed break sooner than later. :hug:
I haven’t had one day off since a month ago. Don’t think I will have a good break until late September. But it's better to be busy than having nothing to do :p

Roger not playing well actually helps :tape:

Federerhingis
08-22-2008, 12:37 AM
I haven’t had one day off since a month ago. Don’t think I will have a good break until late September. But it's better to be busy than having nothing to do :p

Roger not playing well actually helps :tape:
Good heavens, you must be beyond exhausted. Gosh!! :rolleyes:

I guess that's a good way to reason about it, and yes I totally agree it's better to be busy than not have nothing to do at all. :yeah:

Time with no purpose is pointless.
;)

prima donna
08-22-2008, 05:28 AM
Who really cares...

SUKTUEN
08-22-2008, 06:51 AM
ALLEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Roger!!!!!!!!!!

Venle
08-22-2008, 07:05 AM
Seeing Roger as [2] for the first time in my life :bolt:

Me too :bolt: It's weird

prima donna
08-22-2008, 07:10 AM
Are you guys old enough to remember when Roger played second fiddle to Roddick ?

SUKTUEN
08-22-2008, 07:18 AM
Me too :bolt: It's weird


I am sec time~~:devil:

nobama
08-22-2008, 10:39 AM
:scratch: Not sure why seeing Roger as #2 in the draw is :eek: Didn't Roger win two slams when he wasn't the #1 player?

nobama
08-22-2008, 11:32 AM
Anyone know what the weather is like in NYC? How hot is it? Krist, a poster over on rf.com got the chance to see Roger practice yesterday and one thing she mentioned that caught my attention is during Roger's practice breaks he looked like he was really tired and when he sat down he would cover his head with a towel. Maybe it's just really hot there or he still has jetlag from Beijing. I hope it's nothing else as low energy going into the US Open is not a good thing.

nobama
08-22-2008, 11:44 AM
This is from an article in the Wall Street Journal (which annoyingly refers to Roger and Nadal as Mr. Federer and Mr. Nadal. :rolleyes: )I thought this passage was interesting....the quote from Roger and mentioning Reto, who we haven't seen at matches with Roger for quite some time now.

The fiercely independent Mr. Federer has begun a process that may result in a retooling of his tennis game. "I want to move on as a player," Mr. Federer says. "I want to have new ideas."

Roger Federer says it's time to try "new ideas" on the court.

In meetings with his small circle of advisors, which includes his girlfriend Mirka Vavrinec, his agent Tony Godsick, his longtime fitness coach Pierre Paganini and confidante and hitting partner Reto Staubli, Mr. Federer has been talking through various theories about how to overcome Mr. Nadal and win his fifth consecutive U.S. Open title. In a sign of the stakes involved, he's also decided to bring his new coach, the former Spanish pro Jose Higueras, with him to New York this week. It's the first time he's had anyone in his corner at this event since 2003.

Daniel
08-22-2008, 12:31 PM
Nadal shouldn't be referred as Mr. at all. Animals don't have titles.

Vamos Roger, win the USO :bounce: :bounce:

elessar
08-22-2008, 01:11 PM
OK I think I am going to barf. http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/2191_throwing_up.gif"We may be seeing two of the best players ever go" :spit:
"We're keeping our fingers crossed that they do meet -- that's the whole point, and we honestly think that they will, especially the way they have been playing lately" :spit:
Roger's USO outfit courtesy of downthelinetennis.com

Day matches
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_GWJatwb-WlI/SKzlmEtx_CI/AAAAAAAAEMg/VkQ4l4tqt8k/s400/nike+us+open+08+federer+look+2.jpg

Night matches

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GWJatwb-WlI/SKzobRG6lNI/AAAAAAAAEMo/U6scO4XSisA/s400/nike+us+open+08+federer+look+1.jpg
Ugh :o
Thanks for posting, they're even worse than I thought. It seems there's no middle ground between neon and dull colors at Nike.

anon57
08-22-2008, 01:18 PM
It's not quite as bad as the :help: brown UPS colour scheme that was in the Wimbledon/USO outfit thread but the brown/grey night outfit just doesn't work. The day match outfit isn't that bad

rofe
08-22-2008, 01:19 PM
Nadal shouldn't be referred as Mr. at all. Animals don't have titles.

Vamos Roger, win the USO :bounce: :bounce:

That made me laugh.

elessar
08-22-2008, 01:26 PM
EDIT : just saw Rafa's outfit :lol:
WTH were they thinking it's even preppier than Roger's :spit:. I'm having awful visions of Roger in piratas and no sleeved shirts now that he's nr 2 :crying2:

juninhOH
08-22-2008, 01:42 PM
I'm actually worried with this "Roger is tired" thing.

I wonder if he will be able to play 5 setters then

nobama
08-22-2008, 01:51 PM
"We may be seeing two of the best players ever go" :spit:
"We're keeping our fingers crossed that they do meet -- that's the whole point, and we honestly think that they will, especially the way they have been playing lately" :spit:

Ugh :o
Thanks for posting, they're even worse than I thought. It seems there's no middle ground between neon and dull colors at Nike.Oh God I just pulled this up at work and it looks more brown. On my laptop at home it looked gray. Can you say UPS driver. :o We can only hope there are no brown socks & shoes in the mix too. :o

nobama
08-22-2008, 01:51 PM
EDIT : just saw Rafa's outfit :lol:
WTH were they thinking it's even preppier than Roger's :spit:. I'm having awful visions of Roger in piratas and no sleeved shirts now that he's nr 2 :crying2:Still sleeveless or no?

anon57
08-22-2008, 01:56 PM
Oh God I just pulled this up at work and it looks more brown. On my laptop at home it looked gray. Can you say UPS driver. :o We can only hope there are no brown socks & shoes in the mix too. :o
:o It's still brown:mad:, on my home laptop it looks grey/purplish as well which is better than UPS driver brown. The colour scheme for the night outfit really is :help:.
Still sleeveless or no?
Nope it has sleeves:eek:

elessar
08-22-2008, 01:58 PM
nope :lol: it's a bit neony though, too much styling changes in one go would have been a bit too much for Rafa :hug:

I'll post a pic with them both, so I won't be accused of keeping the discussion away from Roger (:hearts:), and because that pic look absolutely ridiculous :D

http://bbs.tennis.com.cn/uploadFiles/2008-08/22_8484725_1.jpg

nobama
08-22-2008, 02:01 PM
nope :lol: it's a bit neony though, too much styling changes in one go would have been a bit too much for Rafa :hug:

I'll post a pic with them both, so I won't be accused of keeping the discussion away from Roger (:hearts:), and because that pic look absolutely ridiculous :D

http://bbs.tennis.com.cn/uploadFiles/2008-08/22_8484725_1.jpgHere's a better pic of the outfit. Doesn't suit Nadal at all, IMO. I was never a fan of the "pirate pants", and he might not have been either, but Nadal and collared shirts do not go together. :help:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_GWJatwb-WlI/SK4KN5RpcmI/AAAAAAAAENo/DL5jYeql-Lw/s400/nadal+nike+us+open+08.jpg

SUKTUEN
08-22-2008, 03:19 PM
this is Rafa's outfit in USO?????????
Oh no..............:rolleyes:


Roger GO GO GO!!!!!!!!!

RFederer90
08-22-2008, 05:31 PM
Is it with sleeves????!!!!!!?????!!!!!!!!!??????!!!!!!

MrChopin
08-22-2008, 06:30 PM
nope :lol: it's a bit neony though, too much styling changes in one go would have been a bit too much for Rafa :hug:

I'll post a pic with them both, so I won't be accused of keeping the discussion away from Roger (:hearts:), and because that pic look absolutely ridiculous :D

http://bbs.tennis.com.cn/uploadFiles/2008-08/22_8484725_1.jpg

:lol: Rafa looks absurd. He already has "problems" with pants. I can't even imagine what the little pirate will do with sleeves and a collar. Minimum of 45-50 seconds between points.

juninhOH
08-22-2008, 06:43 PM
rofl but he had to change someday

he could not be using sleeveless forever

rofe
08-22-2008, 06:48 PM
:lol: Rafa looks absurd. He already has "problems" with pants. I can't even imagine what the little pirate will do with sleeves and a collar. Minimum of 45-50 seconds between points.

Unfair bicep comparison. Nadal's LH and Roger's LH? :p

MrChopin
08-22-2008, 07:05 PM
Unfair bicep comparison. Nadal's LH and Roger's LH? :p

Nothing is "unfair" in tennis Thunderdome.

nobama
08-22-2008, 11:54 PM
I'm not a huge Bodo fan at all, but I loved this blog.

http://tennisworld.typepad.com/tennisworld/2008/08/dear-roger.html
Dear Roger. . .
Posted 08/22/2008 @ 3 :07 PM

What's up, dawg? I caught your gold medal doubles performance in Beijing the other day and just want to say, wa-a-a-a-aaaay to go! When I saw you up on that medal podium, rockin' the red-and-white Swiss team warm-ups with a gold medallion worthy of Mr. T (don't even think about the mohawk, dude, it's just not you), I thought once again: It's all good, bro'!

I know you're dealing with some "issues" these days, and who am I to butt in - the world needs another Roger Federer armchair analyst like I need a hole in the head, right? Hey, I'm a blogger, not a tennis coach. I just sit around all day in my pajamas, pontificating on this, that, and the other, ogling Getty images of hotties like Elena Dementieva and Venus Williams when I'm not going on about the farm in game-rich Andes, or my kid, Cowboy Luke. But then I had this flash. You and I have a lot in common, Rog, even though it may not be obvious to everyone. Your pajamas might be silk while mine are flannel with coffee stains, but blogging and trying to be the greatest tennis player in tennis history are similar undertakings. Who woulda thunk it?

Let's face it, a journalist of any kind is someone who wants to have his voice heard above those of his fellow citizens, even if he's got nothing particularly interesting or thoughtful to say. And a tennis player aspiring to greatness wants to beat the pants off all comers, all the time, and for what - just for the hail of it, that's what! See what I mean? We're loose cannons, you and I. We want to dominate the conversation. Nature of the beast.

And think about this: a lot of people, especially in the mainstream media, think that bloggers are just "pretend" journalists, with zero credibility and very little of substance to add to public discourse. Let me remind you that some people also think tennis players are pretend athletes, otherwise known as "weenies." Of course, you don't help your own cause by prancing around in that cardigan, and Rafael Nadal - what's up with that "newest member of the Village People" look? . . . Let's face it - in Roger's world, just like in TennisWorld, perception IS reality.

All in all, Rog, this is a good time for you to think a little. . . out of the box. Hey, if John Newcombe could go to a faith healer in Manila to get help for his bum shoulder, if Andre Agassi felt okay about turning to track star Michael Johnson and his coach, if Marat Safin could seek counsel from Dr. Ruth Westheimer (or am I wrong about that?) why shouldn't you be allowed to take advice from a blogger - especially one who's job is a lot more like yours than you probably ever realized.

My first piece of advice is simple - ignore those haters! That job starts with ignoring journalists, who's job consists of two parts. Part A is building people up as if they were the greatest thing since Luxilon. Part B is tearing them down, as if they were the worst thing since Billy Carter. When it comes to heralding the new or ushering out the old, they collectively suffer from an embarrassing condition known as premature articulation.

Then there are the fanboy and fangirl haters. Let me tell you a little story about them. The other day, I wrote a post about those lame "slant eye" photos of the Spanish basketball and Fed Cup teams (Argentina's female soccer players got in on that action, too; not having won a single game, they had a lot of time on their hands). Almost within minutes, the haters came out of the woodwork. I accuse the Spanish players of taking part in an ill-advised, sophomoric photo-op - goaded by advertising execs, no less - and the next thing you know, people are firing off lists of the horrible crimes visited upon the world by the United States, covering everyone from native Americans to Gitmo. Did I get all worked up and fire back a list of noble US achievements, or point out that there would be no such thing as clueless advertising execs were it not for America's Madison Avenue?

Nah. I just sat back, did a few deep breathing exercises, and asked myself, What would Cervantes do?

Okay. Right now, you've come up short at a couple of big events, and a few big singles matches. Rafael Nadal has squeaked by you in the singles rankings, to take away your no. 1 ranking. My feeling? It took him long enough, now can we please just move on the the really important stuff - winning majors? And hey, it's not like you're off the radar and contemplating a furious late-season charge in hopes of catching Nikolay Davydenko in the year-end rankings, right?

Then there's the other subset, the fans who think they're in touch with their inner Brad Gilbert. You know the ones I mean - the geniuses who say your forehand isn't what it used to be; that you can't handle the high kicker to the backhand, that you don't have the legs to run with Rafa all day. Dude, they're just effin' with your head, you realize that, don't you? At TennisWorld, we call those kinds of haters "trolls." Granted, some of your most loyal fans are running around like Chicken Little, and the anti-cardigan crowd is saying you're finished. Cooked. It's Rafa's planet now, you're just renting space. That's got to be galling, I know. But my advice to you? Sit back, do a few deep breathing exercises, and ask yourself: What would Pete Sampras do?

Here's another point of similarity. I've learned blogging that you're only as good as your last post. Substitute "post" for "match" and bingo - you're in Pete's world! A couple of times, I've written a post and been hailed as the greatest thing since Seatguru.com. After my next post, the same brain surgeon jumps on to write that I'm the most embarrassing thing to happen to tennis since Linda Siegal - you remember Linda, right, the girl whose boob fell out of her dress during a match at Wimbledon?

You know what? In tennis, like in blogging, you live to fight another day. It doesn't matter if you're wearing coffee-stained PJs, or racy black shorts with satin stripes down the side. Every day is a new beginning. You go out there in the next few weeks and kick some buttski and take a few names and bingo - you're right back on top of the world. So what if you're not no. 1 anymore? Ivan Lendl was no. 1 for more years than I can remember, and who would you rather be, Ivan Lendl or that other guy who often found himself at no. 2, Andre Agassi? No contest, right? And look, I'm not sitting around wishing I were Arianna Huffington, either.

Here's another thing I've learned that might be useful to you: learn from your mistakes and move on. Do I need to tell you how often I've misspelled the name Mark Phillipoussis (it's just one "P" in the middle, isn't it?), but did that stop me writing about the scud muffin? No way. Sometimes, I've had an editor go over some of the stuff I wrote, looking for those mistakes that slip by because I've stared at the page too long. It helps. Trust me on that. In your field, an "editor" is usually called a "coach". He can see things that you don't anymore. He can get you to simplify and focus. And a coach can tell you something that not too many editors have told me right before I sat down to write a post: Hey, just go out there and remember that you're Roger Federer and he's not. Impose yourself! You'll be surprised at how much difference it can make, and let's face it, interesting a girl as that Mirka is, do you really need to sit across the dinner table from her every freakin' night?

And lastly, Rog, let go of any anger or bitterness you may feel, especially when it seems like everyone is piling on. Anger can make you do dumb things. I have my trolls, you have your haters and premature articulators. If you get all hurty and defensive, if you go off on them like Jimmy Connors used to go off on some poor line judge in a straw boater, slumped over asleep while supposedly calling lines, they win. Yeah, bro', it sounds harsh. But always remember - if you lose your cool, they win. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Well, that's about it. So much for the heretofore unnoticed parallels in our lives. Right now, you may be simmering, thinking: Where do you come off, you bottom-feeding blogger, telling me what to think, taking cheap shots at my black shorts! Just remember what I said about anger, bro', and keep this in mind, too: Greg Sharko of the ATP Tour saw my post about first-time no. 1s the other day and decided to do a little more original research. He sampled 10 guys to see how they fared in the first Grand Slam event they played after they reached no. 1. Guess how many of them won the event?

One. That's right, uno, dude: it was Jim Courier, Roland Garros, 1992. Keep that in mind when the US Open starts on Monday. I'll be pretty busy out there, but I'll try to catch up with you at some point.

Sunset of Age
08-23-2008, 12:32 AM
I'm not a huge Bodo fan at all, but I loved this blog.

Hmmm hmmm. I'm not so sure. I get the feeling he's been having a lot of less appreciative reactions on his recent 'writings', and as such feels the need to excuse himself by placing himself in a comparable 'victimized' position as Roger has been lately.... :shrug:

Might be me, though, I genuinely dislike Bozo and his overly floralish writing (once again, in this piece, there are several parts where I think "WTF is he talking about?" while I know my understanding of the English language isn't that bad), and as such I might be a bit too cynical about him suddenly being supportive of Roger. :cool:

anon57
08-23-2008, 12:38 AM
I didn't like the blog, I admit I didn't read the whole thing so maybe later on it's actually worth reading but I find Bodo's style of writing so irritating and annoying I didn't get past the first couple of paragraphs.

elessar
08-23-2008, 02:21 AM
Bodo's blogs are awful most of the time, lately they've been even worse. I like articles that are not burying Roger, for once, as much as the next fedfan, but the patronizing tone of this blog has once again reached dizzying levels. It makes me wanna shove that s*** up his throat :dance:

Substitute "post" for "match" and bingo - you're in Pete's world! A couple of times, I've written a post and been hailed as the greatest thing since Seatguru.com.
Just like Roger, who's been lucky enough to be called that on a few, very rare occasions :yeah:
Here's another thing I've learned that might be useful to you: learn from your mistakes and move on.
:worship:
Here's another earth shattering piece of advice for you Roger : Try to stay confident :yeah:
if only Roger read the internet :sigh:
You'll be surprised at how much difference it can make, and let's face it, interesting a girl as that Mirka is, do you really need to sit across the dinner table from her every freakin' night?
WTF does that have to do with anything...
I'll be pretty busy out there, but I'll try to catch up with you at some point.
How nice of him.
I'm sure Roger's giddy with anticipation.

nobama
08-23-2008, 02:24 AM
Hmmm hmmm. I'm not so sure. I get the feeling he's been having a lot of less appreciative reactions on his recent 'writings', and as such feels the need to excuse himself by placing himself in a comparable 'victimized' position as Roger has been lately.... :shrug:

Might be me, though, I genuinely dislike Bozo and his overly floralish writing (once again, in this piece, there are several parts where I think "WTF is he talking about?" while I know my understanding of the English language isn't that bad), and as such I might be a bit too cynical about him suddenly being supportive of Roger. :cool:Hey, I'm no fan of Bodo and I haven't been to his blog in months. I just liked the general theme of the blog which was basically 'hey Roger tell everyone to f-off'. Go over to rf.com sometime and you'll find post after post about what Roger needs to do - get a different coach, switch to a larger racquet head, start hating Nadal, quit doing off-court activities, you name it. Roger goes in a slump and all of a sudden there are hundreds of 'experts' who know exactly what he needs to turn it all around. I especially got a kick out of one post tonight commenting on the 'grapple in the apple' pics....saying Nadal looked like he was embarrassed for Roger because Roger had to stand up next to him after losing the #1 to him, losing Wimbledon to him, etc. As if Roger should just crawl in a hole and die because he's no longer #1 and let Nadal take the top spot from him. :rolleyes: Of course this same poster said Roger needs to start hating Nadal....as if hate and anger are going to make him start winning tournaments again.

nobama
08-23-2008, 02:29 AM
Bodo's blogs are awful most of the time, lately they've been even worse. I like articles that are not burying Roger, for once, as much as the next fedfan, but the patronizing tone of this blog has once again reached dizzying levels. It makes me wanna shove that s*** up his throat :dance:
You'll be surprised at how much difference it can make, and let's face it, interesting a girl as that Mirka is, do you really need to sit across the dinner table from her every freakin' night?
WTF does that have to do with anything...
I'll admit I haven't been to his blog in months and his writing style is annyoing as hell. And of course he found a way to throw Sampras's name in this posting as well. I must have missed the piece of advice above....well I'm with you....WTF does this have to do with anything? :retard:

elessar
08-23-2008, 02:30 AM
I agree about the fuck off everyone part and I do get Bodo's point, it's just buried under too much crap as usual :shrug:
Plus the timing and motive behind that blog don't help.

marat_roger
08-23-2008, 04:27 AM
"We may be seeing two of the best players ever go" :spit:
"We're keeping our fingers crossed that they do meet -- that's the whole point, and we honestly think that they will, especially the way they have been playing lately" :spit:

Ugh :o
Thanks for posting, they're even worse than I thought. It seems there's no middle ground between neon and dull colors at Nike.

i know :o:sad:

and btw i really love your banner :hearts:

Sunset of Age
08-23-2008, 10:21 AM
Hey, I'm no fan of Bodo and I haven't been to his blog in months. I just liked the general theme of the blog which was basically 'hey Roger tell everyone to f-off'.

Well, that I agree with, of course. But isn't it rather... well suspect, to see someone who has been waiting for Roger's downfall at least a couple of years, suddenly saying something like this? :scratch:
Oh I know that he's never stated it openly... and that makes it even worse to me - Bozo is an archetypical backstabber. :( I highly prefer a blogger like TennisPlanet, for instance - he says dreadful things about Roger once in a while, but at least he's genuine - and he does so about ALL players. ;)

Go over to rf.com sometime and you'll find post after post about what Roger needs to do - get a different coach, switch to a larger racquet head, start hating Nadal, quit doing off-court activities, you name it. Roger goes in a slump and all of a sudden there are hundreds of 'experts' who know exactly what he needs to turn it all around.

You've nailed it here Jen - the EXACT reason why I try to avoid fansites like the plague. Of course, I like to read the incidental good post and see the pictures, but there's a whole lot of wading through the muck of Keyboard Experts-posts (as well as the drooling fangirls who take it just a bit too far of course) - and it makes me shudder. :help:

I especially got a kick out of one post tonight commenting on the 'grapple in the apple' pics....saying Nadal looked like he was embarrassed for Roger because Roger had to stand up next to him after losing the #1 to him, losing Wimbledon to him, etc. As if Roger should just crawl in a hole and die because he's no longer #1 and let Nadal take the top spot from him. :rolleyes: Of course this same poster said Roger needs to start hating Nadal....as if hate and anger are going to make him start winning tournaments again.

Oh yes, I saw that... :help: :tape: :retard:
It's apparently too difficult for them to understand that these promotion activities are for 99,9999% sure embedded in both players' contracts with Nike, and neither seem to have any problem doing what they are supposed to do (though, as you understand, I could well do without this :retard: activity - promoting tennis players as BOXERS? Only Americans can come up with such a thing :rolleyes: - no insult intended btw.)

And yes, of course, Roger should start hating Nadal! That would solve a lot of problems, grrrr... :armed: :haha: It's sad to see that some people still can't accept the idea of being rivals within your sport and just respecting and liking your rival as a person outside it... :help:

nobama
08-23-2008, 12:51 PM
Just the idea that Nadal has Roger's number because Roger doesn't properly hate him is :haha:

Sunset of Age
08-23-2008, 12:55 PM
Just the idea that Nadal has Roger's number because Roger doesn't properly hate him is :haha:

To make it even funnier... I saw the same kind of posts about Nadal not making it to #1 during the past few years - because he didn't hate Roger enough! Waaaaaahhhhh!!! :boxing:

Boy-o-boy. Gotta love them fansites. :haha:

SUKTUEN
08-23-2008, 03:15 PM
Is it with sleeves????!!!!!!?????!!!!!!!!!??????!!!!!!

yes~~~:rolleyes::rolleyes:

SUKTUEN
08-23-2008, 03:17 PM
GOD Please Bless Roger can have a good preparation for USO!!:worship:

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Roger!!!:bounce::bounce:

nobama
08-23-2008, 09:06 PM
Roger's pre-tournament interview:

THE MODERATOR: Questions, please.

Q. Is there a particular challenge to coming in this year, having just been in Beijing on the other side of the planet and making the adjustment to coming over here? Is there a particular challenge to that? I mean, is your body feeling okay in terms of the, you know, jet lag and so forth?

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I mean, well, I mean, I think it's always easy when you know what's coming up, and we knew it for a long time that we're going to have to do this. This tough trip, Beijing and back.

So for this reason, I feel like what I was meant to do, you know, a few months ago. I was tired, you know, when I got here, but last couple days been good in practice and feel much better.

I always knew that we actually had enough time to prepare for Beijing because we got there a week ahead, and a week ahead in tennis tournament is a lot. Sometimes we only have two or three days, but here we had a week. Same thing at the US Open.

My preparation is pretty much the same. It's definitely been a very challenging stretch, sort of from the French Open to the US Open. Big tournaments with a lot of traveling and a lot of pressure. It's been exciting.

Q. Can you are correlate the experience of the doubles gold in terms of just getting a sense of, you know, maybe helping to put some of the disappointment from Roland Garros and Wimbledon behind and you using that coming into this as sort of a motivator?

ROGER FEDERER: Umm, well, I mean, some people ask me that, you know, if sort of if it made up for losing the singles, but it's completely irrelevant because it's two completely different things. I had hopes, you know, to make gold in singles and maybe in doubles, and once I lost the singles I right away played doubles. So there was no time really to be disappointed about it, even though that was the big goal of the season for me, as well.

Like winning Wimbledon and then winning the Olympic gold. So I still got my Olympic gold, but in doubles. Honestly the celebration was much more intense. It was very different to winning alone on a tennis court. You might have heard that. So for me it was very special winning with my teammate.

Q. Obviously this was an important tournament for you this year, but do you feel like you need more? You know, is it more mental for you right now or more physical or more tactical or more competition?

ROGER FEDERER: Umm, well, you know, I mean, I've had a tough beginning to the season, so maybe I've been playing a little bit of catchup all the way through the season. I was lacking practice, and so I think it's just a matter of maybe, you know, winning a lot of matches in a row together, and really feel like this is going to happen here at the US Open if I play good. You know, and then once if I hope to make it to the quarters or semis, I think then I have enough matches and enough confidence to go all the way.

I have to take it a little bit more step by step. That's what I usually do anyway in Grand Slams. I've been very consistent even this year in Grand Slams. I'm not really too worried about that. But, I mean, Rafa has played great, you know, so he deserves the No. 1 position. I mean, he's in a way the favorite now all of a sudden, even on hardcourt, because he's' played so, so well.

I'm going to concentrate on what I can really control, and that's in my section of the draw trying to control all the players. We'll see how it goes.

Q. You're referring to the mono obviously at the beginning of the year. Do you feel like a little bit like your body has betrayed you this year?

ROGER FEDERER: No, it's just been difficult. It took away maybe a Slam, took away a lot of, what is it, 20 days of practice. That is a lot for us, because at the end of the year maybe ‑‑ I don't even have 20 days of practice because I need to also rest and then get ready.

So it's a lot that I maybe lost, and then I had to play catchup all the way through.

Q. Does it take any pressure off you losing the No. 1 ranking, or is it pressure...

ROGER FEDERER: I mean, I would think it does, yeah. Five years almost I was expected to win every tournament I entered, except maybe towards the end a little bit on the clay. Rafa showed he was very, very good on clay.

Other than that I was always expected to win, so maybe now it changes a little bit, because obviously there's a shift in the rankings. Rafa will now feel what I had to feel for a very long time.

So it will be interesting to see how he handles it, but so far he's been great and he's played so well on all surfaces now. Maybe it's nice to go into a Grand Slam for a change maybe not having No. 1 next to me, and it should be interesting.

Q. Do you feel playing doubles benefits your singles game? Have you given any consideration to playing doubles in a Grand Slam?

ROGER FEDERER: Not in a Grand Slam, but I used to play, you know, doubles in Slams. I think it does help my singles play a little bit, you know, just the returns and coming in, serve and volleying a little bit, just the reaction at the net, all these things.

It does sharpen you up a little bit, but still, at the same time, I really don't want to have any things that disturb me during a Grand Slam, such as doubles. I'm going to purely always concentrate on the singles, and maybe doubles just to in a lead‑up tournament to a Grand Slam maybe.

Q. Were there any special things you did to try to deal with jet lag in the week plus?

ROGER FEDERER: No, not really. I mean, you just hope you're going to get getting into a good rhythm. You have to force yourself. But I rarely have a huge problem with jet lag. It's just a matter of being tired, maybe a little bit rundown.

I tried to save a lot of energy at the beginning of the year so I would get through the entire season without a problem. At the moment, I think all our players, we're like in the mode of, Let's just try to get through the US Open and let's see how we feel afterwards.

So even if you are tired, you don't allow it to come out. It's been a tough year, and I think you'll see many guys now that they are feeling a little bit rundown. But I think that's a normal thing after a tough season.

Q. Does it bother you at all when someone like Patrick McEnroe calls Nadal the clear‑cut favorite even though he's never been past the quarterfinals here and you've won it four straight time times?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, I don't know how he said it or what he said, but like I said as well, he's won every big tournament in the last three: Olympic Games, French Open and Wimbledon. I mean, he's not completely wrong.

Clear favorite? I don't know about that, but he seems like the favorite, even though I've won here last four times. I still believe it's an advantage if you how to win a US Open. It's a tough tournament to win. Like you said, Rafa has never been beyond the fourth round or quarters, so that's definitely the advantage I carry to the other players that they don't have that.

Q. So many pullouts with the Olympics and players have injuries because of the tournament schedule. Now that you're on the administrative side, you know, working with Rafa and the ATP board, are you hopeful that you're going to be able to make some changes that will help people stay fit for longer? What are your top priorities there?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, I think this is quite a unique season. Rafa wasn't happy with the clay court season. I was not particularly happy, you know, with scheduling at the Olympics. We all wish we would have had more time between Wimbledon and the Olympic Games, or after Toronto there was only two weeks.

So this year I think is one sort of to forget in terms of scheduling, but there was not really a whole lot we could do, you know, because of the Olympic Games. Every four years maybe there will be a tough season like this.

But, look, next year's schedule it will already be much better. We'll have much more time and won't be forced to play every single week. Now looking back, maybe I should not have played Toronto and Cincinnati, but then I would have given up No. 1 without a fight and I would have come into the Olympic Games without any hardcourt matches since basically Miami.

That's not the perfect preparation, either, you know. So that's why I was trying to chase, you know, some matches on hardcourt, and that's what you get. And then you lose and then you travel and it just makes you more and more tired.

I think this is a season sort of to forget in terms of scheduling. We're working hard on that, but I think next year we won't have this type of problems like this year. We just have to get through this one.

Q. Each Slam is different. Different atmosphere. You're here in New York. You've had great results. Give us some comments about being back here in New York where you've had great success. I saw Don King the other night, the personalities.

ROGER FEDERER: Look, always have a great time always in New York, especially the last four years obviously have been very special. I've had some legendary matches from me playing Andre in the finals, or Andy. The night sessions, it's electrifying, and the crowd's always been very good to me.

So especially this year I hope, you know, maybe not playing my best tennis, maybe this year they will come out and support me and carry me through to another US Open win.

I think I need the support a little bit this year. Other than that, it's been always fun, you know, coming to the city. It's the most incredible city, you know. You attend some events and meet people you maybe usually don't during the year.

For this reason, I'm very excited to be back, and I hope I can stay here as long as possible.

Q. Does tennis need Don King?

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, why not?

Q. Are you going to make any adjustment mentally or physically before the US Open, before Monday, or...

ROGER FEDERER: I think physically not a whole lot, you know. I'm just going to try to recover from a lot of, you know, traveling we've had, and so you do a lot of prevention, you know, stretching, massage and a lot of sleep, eat healthy kind of thing.

Mentally I think it's important just to be positive. I know how to enter Grand Slams. I know how to enter the US Open, what it takes to win. That's always a huge advantage I have. I come here as a defending champion, so I always have great feelings about this place.

It's a matter of once I get into the tournament I take the right decisions how I want to play, and especially be very confident and positive in my mind. I think that only will really start to roll once I get into the tournament.

neenah
08-23-2008, 09:36 PM
Thanks for posting that :)

nobama
08-24-2008, 12:32 AM
Positively 4th Street
By Maggie E. Greene—blogger extraordinaire
Jawambee Journal of Houston August 23, 2008

What’s up, dawg? So what’s up Mr. Bodo? Why the phony familiarity with our favorite tennis fellow – Mr. Federer? We can all play cute here. For those of you who remain unaware, Pete Bodo over at tennis.com wrote a laid back piece about Roger Federer which seems to applaud Roger’s 2008 Olympic success and which advises Roger about his future, about over-reacting to haters and about the press. Mr. Bodo does not admit being among that legion…rather he calls himself a blogger. The article is entitled Dear Roger. Read it at your peril.

That being said, I am going to veer off to the left a bit to let you know I have been listening to much Bob Dylan of late for reasons obvious to me. When I hear Positively 4th Street, I am reminded that Dylan always said, “Never trust anybody over 30.” I believe he was speaking about a state of mind rather than a physical age…but I have been wrong before. What I detect of late are many of Roger’s friends emulating the lyrics of that famous song, i.e.--you see me on the street—you always act surprised and say how are you? Good Luck—but you don’t mean it. The song is about people who pretend to be your friend but who, in essence, would rather see you paralyzed!

Especially this: You got a lotta nerve to say you are my friend. When I was down you just stood there grinning. Now who does this bring to mind but certain number one players who profess to be honored to have TMF break their records when secretly they are delighted he is down. I suppose this is only human nature but to me it seems two-faced. There is nothing more human than jealousy. The green monster is huge in shaping our desires. It also brings to mind certain commentators and journalists including bloggers who couldn’t wring out enough superlatives a year ago and now cannot remember Roger’s name or the many times he put himself out granting interviews and appearing on television for sponsors and the networks. They all have the sensitivity and the mind set of sewer rats, in my humble estimation. Sorry to stoop so low and be so blunt.

I do not believe for a minute that there is anything phony about Roger. He is driven to excel and he admits it. He expects to win and he announces it. He applauds Rafa’s success and he means it. That doesn’t mean he isn’t going after him—he will and he says so. I think Roger feels let down by certain former professional tennis players and the press. That depresses him and plays on his mind. Roger who is not yet 30 needs to recognize his real friends and listen to them and tune out the naysayers.

nobama
08-24-2008, 03:41 AM
I've seen some quotes from Djerk where he's mentioned how tired he is and things he needs to work on physically so he'll be ready for his 1st round match. I have my doubts he'll make it to the SF. The latest practice pics I've seen of Roger he looks much better, not as tired and lots of smiles.

I've heard that the top half is starting first with Roger playing Tuesday during the day and Roddick Tuesday night.

trickcy
08-24-2008, 09:22 AM
Thanks a lot for posting those articles MY :wavey:

When you say top half plays first, does that mean that the top half plays on Monday :confused: coz Roger and Andy are in the bottom half, right?

RFederer90
08-24-2008, 09:30 AM
Nadal will play on Monday (i.e the top half), Federer & Roddick (i.e bottom half) will play on Tuesday!

juninhOH
08-24-2008, 01:25 PM
someone posted this at the General Forum:


9. By far the three players who create the biggest commotion and craziest mob scenes here are (in order): 1. Nadal, 2. Federer, 3. Djokovic. The Willies and Roddick are trailing behind, even in New York.

10. Saw Federer practice technique skills extensively. For about twenty minutes straight he worked on the same drill: running forehand out wide, followed by forehand approach from middle of the court, followed by backhand volley. He was misfiring and netting tons of forehands in practice. Crabby and throwing water bottles at his chair, muttering to himself, looked "rattled."

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=130311

nobama
08-24-2008, 02:36 PM
someone posted this at the General Forum:



http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=130311
:lol: that must have been Wednesday. Someone from rf.com was at his practice session that day and said about the same thing. Apparently yesterday he was in a better mood.

SUKTUEN
08-24-2008, 03:50 PM
play on Tuesday!!!

ALLEZZZZZZZZZZZZ Roger!!!!:bounce::bounce:

Corey Feldman
08-24-2008, 03:52 PM
So depressed to hear that about his practise sessions

he cant even do the business there anymore :o :sad:

but all the best Roger, i have no real expectation for him here (1st time i've felt like this for years)... so anything beyond 3r or 4th round will be a bonus

how crazy does that sound

neenah
08-24-2008, 03:56 PM
The silver lining (for me) of the cloud of being #2...He'll play on Thursday when I'm going to the Open! :D I've never seen him play in real life!

SUKTUEN
08-24-2008, 03:57 PM
I also worry Roger may be a little tired after Olympics~~

anon57
08-24-2008, 04:00 PM
The silver lining (for me) of the cloud of being #2...He'll play on Thursday when I'm going to the Open! :D I've never seen him play in real life!

:wavey:Have fun

SUKTUEN
08-24-2008, 04:08 PM
:wavey:Have fun

yes, how luck you can watch Roger play in Live, it is a wonderful thing.:D

trickcy
08-24-2008, 04:26 PM
Nadal will play on Monday (i.e the top half), Federer & Roddick (i.e bottom half) will play on Tuesday!
Thanks :wavey:

So depressed to hear that about his practise sessions

he cant even do the business there anymore :o :sad:

but all the best Roger, i have no real expectation for him here (1st time i've felt like this for years)... so anything beyond 3r or 4th round will be a bonus

how crazy does that sound

Oh come on, his practice sessions always suck.. He loses to anybody and everybody.. Not that he isn't doing that in matches now.. But, that doesn't indicate much..

After all, according to rofe, if Roger loses grumpy, it means he's going to win. That's what he said about the Olympics too and that prediction proved right... if in an unexpected way ;)

The silver lining (for me) of the cloud of being #2...He'll play on Thursday when I'm going to the Open! :D I've never seen him play in real life!

Cool.. Have a great time... Hopefully Roger does play that second round, after getting through his first :scared: :tape: :p

SUKTUEN
08-24-2008, 04:27 PM
when will order of play come out?

neenah
08-24-2008, 04:32 PM
:wavey:Have fun

yes, how luck you can watch Roger play in Live, it is a wonderful thing.:D

Thanks :wavey:

Cool.. Have a great time... Hopefully Roger does play that second round, after getting through his first :scared: :tape: :p

:tape: :lol:

Well, a more realistic fear for me is, I hope it doesn't rain because if it does I might go to the tournament later and even if he's still in at that point it might not be his day to play :sad: So keep your fingers crossed for sunshine :D

MrChopin
08-24-2008, 05:26 PM
someone posted this at the General Forum:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=130311

Crabby or not, this is good news. As NYC pointed out a couple of days ago, Fed's movement to his forehand has been poor for most of the year, and even for patches last year (Cincy being one). That he is already working on it is a very encouraging sign.

Corey Feldman
08-24-2008, 06:31 PM
Exactly right about his movement to his FH side

his feet are always late to catch up ... then at times when he is in position he seems surprised and snatches at it .. i.e his FH netted at MP down in the Wimbledon Final

trickcy
08-24-2008, 08:13 PM
:tape: :lol:

Well, a more realistic fear for me is, I hope it doesn't rain because if it does I might go to the tournament later and even if he's still in at that point it might not be his day to play :sad: So keep your fingers crossed for sunshine :D

Keeping my fingers crossed and doing a go away rain voodoo dance :angel:

Crabby or not, this is good news. As NYC pointed out a couple of days ago, Fed's movement to his forehand has been poor for most of the year, and even for patches last year (Cincy being one). That he is already working on it is a very encouraging sign.

Exactly right about his movement to his FH side

his feet are always late to catch up ... then at times when he is in position he seems surprised and snatches at it .. i.e his FH netted at MP down in the Wimbledon Final

Good to hear that he's working on his movement to the forehand. He really struggled with it a lot especially this year. I don't think it'll help him this USO much.. Too short a time.. But atleast it means that he's identified it and he's working on it..

nobama
08-24-2008, 10:04 PM
:wavey: There is a thread for US Open pics. Most of these have been posted there. Posting pics of Roger that include Nadal is fine, but remember this if the Fed forum, not a fedal forum. ;)

NYCtennisfan
08-24-2008, 10:10 PM
Good to hear he's been working on getting to the FH in time to whip it CC. He used to really change rallies around that way i.e good CC FH, CC reply midcourt, FH dtl, BH volley. He has used this combo over and over again to it's good to hear he's working on it.

nobama
08-24-2008, 10:58 PM
This was posted on rf.com....a rough translation of an interview done with Pierre Paganini. I thought it was quite interesting...

there s a great interview with pierre paganini considering rogers season. unfortunately its in german, but i will try to translate it tomorrow if u want me to.


http://www.sonntagszeitung.ch/sport/artikel-detailseite/?newsid=38900


Yes, please do!

Thanks for the link. This is very rough translation by Google. Hopefully, someone who knows German will do better job :wink:.

<<Above all, Roger needs time>>

Fitnesstrainer Pierre Paganini about Roger Federer's 2008 season and the consequences of the glandular fever.

By René STAUFFER

Pierre Paganini, how see you it as fitnesstrainer and advisor for many years: How fit Roger Federer is before US Open?

Purely athletically, he is at 99 or 100 percent of his potential. Perhaps some more is missing to the perseverance in the explosive - thus in situations, if he had to save himself in long ball changes owing to the body. But a tennis player is like a puzzle. One must find an interaction of Athletik and tennis, and also the confidence plays. Its confidence is surely not the same as in the preceding years. That is logical, if one looks at its match balance.

How affects itself?

It is a mixture of something hesitating - often only hundredths of a second - and somewhat less harmony in the courses of motion. As one plays, one moves, and as one moves and plays, then one feels. That is a triangle relationship. If in the Athletik, in the mental one and in the play only ever a half per cent are missing, that is, altogether little however nevertheless 1.5 per cent, if one wants so. And it explains then why one is suddenly somewhat uncertain. In former times Roger fought to convert its tennis. Now it fights to express its tennis. That is not the same fight, and therefore it looks also somewhat differently.

Does that he suffers physically from no late sequences of the gland fever, mean how often is speculated? He said that to him about 20 training days in the preparation are missing to 2008.

For this answer I must draw back somewhat. we said 2007: We make for the season 2008 two important training blocks - for the first in December 07, second in February. Actually we would have made gladly a third block in July, but that was not possible because of Olympia. The main structure was planned in February. That should have helped it to pull until Olympia through. First everything ran after plan: After the structure in December Roger was in all ranges in an impressing condition; over it we are us all united.

But then the problems began.

First it caught this intestine virus, which put it 10, 11 days out of action in Australia. It was 24 hours in the hospital, had fever, took antibiotics, lost three Kilos at substance. In the training teachings one says: If you are ill or easily injured, it lasts three times so for a long time, in order to retrieve the structure again. That is, the structure from December was nearly already cancelled because of the intestine flu.

Nevertheless it reached the Halbfinals in Melbourne.

And as we home came, discovered we at the beginning of of February that he already suffered for December at a gland fever. From the medical point of view on it was only on 23 February finally - only one week before the tournament in Dubai (where Federer in the starting play lost against Andy Murray). That is, that we could not even begin the second structure in February. We had thus a player, who was except form and substance had lost. There we had two possibilities: Three months long no tournament play, whereby it would combatless have delivered everything to switch on or between the tournaments of about six training blocks to three days in order the basic structure to at least partly retrieve.

Which was then also made.

I saw Roger never as courageous as this year. Because the meant that the rhythm of tournaments, hard work and recovery was completely different than otherwise. It was tired, if it were otherwise not tired, and one had to watch out that he made not too much. Everything was on measurer cut, and I find it impressing, how he handled everything. In former times one said: With Federer everything runs like automatically, it always wins, is a dear chap without many internal Kraft. Now one sees, what needs it everything and which really in him is. One felt the correct Roger much better, stepped he 2008 as humans much more into the foreground than in former times. It had to fight with its emotions, with defeats and disappointments.

It remained result moderate however under expectations.

Many talk about a hole - however I would like once such a hole in my life! Clearly, he remained under expectations, which he had created in the last years. But it had still fantastische results. It stood in two Grand Slam Finals, is the number 3 of the yearly valuation. One can say, I am not objective, because I work with him. But which I now told, are facts. It does not concern also to defend Roger. It concerns only that those, which have it gladly see the situation in such a way, how it really experienced the player.

Federer angetönt that it was perhaps an error to play before Peking in Toronto and Cincinnati. How do you see that?

Afterwards one is ever more intelligent. The tension is that a player must decide before. It did not have however sufficient reasons, in order not to play. It had resounds won and shown partial supertennis in Wimbledon. And everything was medical okay, as a blood test resulted in after Wimbledon. If it would have lost the last sentence in the final against Nadal 9:7 won instead of, one would talk today completely differently.

Do you think that it can find the way back to its old form, which registered twelve Grand Slam titles to it?

Of it I am by hundred percent convinced. You do not lose your potential from one day on the others. If someone speaks seven languages and headache has, is not it like that it does not know these languages no more. There was also this year many situations, where one saw, which potential it has. It could convert it simply less than normal. And one already says: It is finished. That is insanity and shows, how highly he set the measuring pole. It can take the liberty nearly nothing, without it is directly buried.

How does it deal in your eyes with the criticism, which in-sizzles momentarily on it? It tried to very little actually let approach to dramatisieren nothing.

One never knows, how it looks inside humans. Rogers job is it to protect its own inside because that is private thing. At the same time it appears however further impressing naturally as an Ambassador for the tennis and takes themselves for it much time. I think, he am one the mentally strongest player, who gave it in the tennis ever. Only owing to this strength it could bring the results, which it brought.

Could it be that it is now with the self-assurance the gold medal of Peking in the double again the old person?

I believe that Roger needs now simply time. Perhaps more time, than one believes. Roger is ready a Virtuose, is to be fought. But it is not, which can become generally accepted only by the fight, without Virtuosität. Only it must feel well at the place, and from this it can carry also aggressive unbelievable out, how it proved it again and again. It needs now basic research, in the tennis and in the condition. And it needs also success experiences. Other rich two victories, in order to draw confidence. With it that is not enough. Because it is used to it itself to win large tournaments.

In Peking it was speculated that he could breaking its season off in former times than usually or should.

Momentarily everything turns around US the open. After the last Grand Slam tournament one discusses, how it continues. For Roger a new chapter begins. One must redefine and may, which is philosophy, which one carries forward and which one wants to change. That will give beautiful discussions, which we will lead in the team.

Sunset of Age
08-25-2008, 12:28 AM
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/82529154.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19368FFB0B613D6DEB021F28568AA7F827E E30A760B0D811297

:wavey: There is a thread for US Open pics. Most of these have been posted there. Posting pics of Roger that include Nadal is fine, but remember this if the Fed forum, not a fedal forum. ;)

I'm a refugee. But do know I will be BACK one day.
:angel: :angel: :angel:

All the best to Rogelio! :rocker2:

And with that. I rest my case. :sad:

Sunset of Age
08-25-2008, 12:33 AM
I'm a refugee. But do know I will be BACK one day.
:angel: :angel: :angel:

All the best to Rogelio! :rocker2:

And with that. I rest my case. :sad:

EDIT: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

nobama
08-25-2008, 02:26 AM
EDIT: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:I hope you're not leaving. :sad: Can't be that difficult to take off your fedal hat when you're here (or in the Nadal forum), can it?

RogiFan88
08-25-2008, 03:10 AM
first of all, is this Rogi or TFA's forum??

secondly, too much TFA [and it's not their practice session, it's Arthur Ashe Kids' Day]...

thirdly, TFA looks like any player w his new, civilized outfit and his smiley face for a change... :lol:

fourthly, one match at a time for Rogi... ;)

Sunset of Age
08-25-2008, 04:08 AM
I hope you're not leaving. :sad: Can't be that difficult to take off your fedal hat when you're here (or in the Nadal forum), can it?

I'm not leaving, no way - :hug: - but I found myself getting sadder by the minute to see what's going on, and as such I just made the decision to sit back for a while and see what will happen. My heart is still with Roger, and with Rafa, but not all too much with, eh, some of their fans.
Doesn't include YOU btw. :hug:

trickcy
08-25-2008, 08:18 AM
I'm not leaving, no way - :hug: - but I found myself getting sadder by the minute to see what's going on, and as such I just made the decision to sit back for a while and see what will happen.

Good to hear you're not leaving :)

Thanks MY for posting that interview with Pierre. Some parts weren't too clear, but the gist was understandable. Sigh, like most of us already thought, this year is more or less a write-off.

Mrs. B
08-25-2008, 09:52 AM
HOPP, Roger!!! + + + + +

ps. pls have the sensitivity to NOT post pics of Nadal here. This is a Roger thread on Roger's forum. Thank you. :)

lunahielo
08-25-2008, 11:49 AM
Hi, Eva! :wavey:
Hi, Karin! :wavey:

Allez Roger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Always your fan,
Luna

RogersHardCandy
08-25-2008, 11:54 AM
Sorry for the pictures i posted i the wrong place, i apologize :crying2::crying2:!


I just made the decision to sit back for a while and see what will happen.

I don't know what to sit back means but anyway the one important thing is that you're not leaving *_*!!!


My heart is still with Roger, and with Rafa
Mine too, now & always :worship:

BigJohn
08-25-2008, 01:22 PM
I'd be so relieved if he made the SF. If Djoko is then the opponent, then a victory is a must. Obviously, a 5th title would be so so sweet.

I wish him all the best.

juninhOH
08-25-2008, 01:32 PM
a title on the USO is all Roger needs =]

Daniel
08-25-2008, 01:38 PM
HOPP, Roger!!! + + + + +

ps. pls have the sensitivity to NOT post pics of Nadal here. This is a Roger thread on Roger's forum. Thank you. :)

Agree.

Some people have no idea how offensive it is to some fans like me seeing Nadal pictures in this forum.

lina_seta
08-25-2008, 02:01 PM
oh god nadal with sleeves looks soooooooo wrong!
not that pirate fashion is right, but its usual.

hope roger can get to that running forehand once again!

nobama
08-25-2008, 02:08 PM
I'm not leaving, no way - :hug: - but I found myself getting sadder by the minute to see what's going on, and as such I just made the decision to sit back for a while and see what will happen. My heart is still with Roger, and with Rafa, but not all too much with, eh, some of their fans.
Doesn't include YOU btw. :hug:Not sure exactly what you're referring to, but people should have common sense to know that pictures of Nadal here are a no-no. The ones of him and Roger together are different of course....

rofe
08-25-2008, 02:27 PM
This was posted on rf.com....a rough translation of an interview done with Pierre Paganini. I thought it was quite interesting...

Very interesting read. Thanks. A few things that stand out for me:

1) They are aware that his explosiveness is absent. That is excellent news. It may be too late for the USO but I think Roger is going to work on it during the off-season.

2) Pierre talks about how Roger has been unable to merge his athleticism and tennis craft effectively. He almost seems poetic about it. :lol: I think he means that Roger's timing has been off the whole year. Again, great news for 2009.

3) This is the sad part and something that some of us knew. He is not ready for the USO. The best he can do is salvage as many points as he can so that he doesn't fall back too far behind Nadal or for that matter Djokovic. The good thing is that they have identified the problems and hopefully will rectify it in the off-season.

I know Roger doesn't want to be #3 by the end of the season but I see no difference between #2 and #3 in the larger scheme of things. This means that Roger should think hard about the post-USO season and skip tournaments so that he is ready to go during AO 2009.

nobama
08-25-2008, 02:27 PM
Here's a better translation of the interview with Pierre Paganini, from rf.com. Reading this makes me even more :mad: with so-called fans who question his decisions, his fitness, as if he intentionally allowed all this to happen - because he's lazy, doesn't care, is mentally screwed up, got caught up in off-court stuff, etc. Outside of Mirka and maybe his parents there probably isn't anyone closer to Roger than Pierre, so I trust he knows what he's talking about.

I translated the Interview with Pierre Paganini for you. I hope everything is more or less understandable :)

„Roger needs time“

Fitnesscoach Pierre Paganini about Federers season so far and consequences of mono

By Rene Stauffer

Mr. Paganini, as a long-term coach and consultant of roger federer: whats your opinion concerning his fitness before the US Open?

Regarding the athleticism, he´s at 99 or 100 % of his potential. Maybe he lacks a little bit stamina in some situations, e.g. when a rally takes too long, so that he misses some explosiveness. But a tennis player is like a puzzle. A lot of factors are involved, such as athleticism, the tennis itself and last but not least the self-confidence. His self-confidence isn´t the same like it´s been in the previous years. That becomes evident when you look at his match statistics.

How does that affect his game?

It´s a mixture of hesitating – often just a hundred of a second – and a little less harmony in the movement. You play like you move, and you move and play like you feel. It´s a triangle-relation. If you lack only a half percent in athleticism, mentally, and in your game, it´s in the addition 1,5 %. And that´s the explanation for being a little uncertain sometimes. In former times roger fought to convert his tennis, now he fights to express it. That´s a different fight, that´s why it looks a little different.

Does that mean he doesn’t suffer from the glandular fever anymore, which has often been speculated? He himself said that he misses about 20 days of training.

To answer that question I have to draw back somewhat. In 2007 we said: For the 2008 season we will do two important training blocks, the first in December 2007, the second one in February 08. We would have liked to do a third one in july, but that wasn’t possible because of the Olympic Games. The Main Block was the one in February. That one should have helped him to be in good shape till after the Olympics. At first everything went as planned: Roger was fit as ever, in every way his state of fitness was impressive. No doubt about that.

But then the problems began.

At first he had this stomach-virus in Australia, that made him sick for about 10, 11 days. He was 24 hours in hospital, had fever, took antibiotics, lost three Kilos of weight. If you are ill or injured, it takes three times as long to reach the status quo (of fitness). That means, the first fitness block from December was more or less worthless.

Despite this fact, he reached the Semis of the AO.

Right. And when we came back home, we discovered in February, that he suffered since December of glandular fever. From the medical point of view it was finished on 23rd of February – just one week before dubai (where roger lost to andy murray). That means, we couldn´t even start the second main block in february. So roger was out of form and had lost a lot of stamina. Therefore we had 2 possibilities: Taking a break for 3 month without playing any tournament and giving everything out of the hand without a fight, or to make new 3-day training blocks between the tournaments to regain at least a bit of the stamina.

You chose the 2nd possibility.

I´ve never seen roger so courageous like this year. He had to deal with a complete different rhythm of tournaments, hard work and recovery. He was tired when he wasn’t in the past, and you had to be careful not to train too much. It was really tough, and it impressed me a lot how he handled everything. In the past everyone said: Federer runs automatically, he always wins, he is a nice guy without a lot of internal power. But now you see what it takes to achieve things like he did. This year we saw the real roger, 2008 he was more the human than the machine. He had to deal with emotions, losses and dissapointments.

The results remained below the expectations.

A lot of people are talking of a down – but i´d like to have such a down in my life! Of course he remained below the expectations and the standards that he set himself the last couple of years. But he still had great results. He was runner up in 2 GS finals and is nr. 3 in the champions race. Of course you can say i´m not objective because I work with him. But what I just told you are facts that no one can deny. Aparty from that it´s not about defending roger. It´s about seeing the situation just like it is and how roger has experienced it.
Federer said it might have been a mistake to play toronto and cinncy before the olympics. What´s your opinion on that?

Afterwards you always know more. That´s the exciting thing, that a player has to decide before the tournaments if he plays. But there where not enough reasons to withdraw. He won Halle and showed some super-tennis in wimbledon. From the medical side everthing was fine, what a blood-test proved after wimby. If he had won the last 9:7 in the final, people would talk differently.

Do you think he can regain his old form that made him a 12-times GS-Champion?

I am convinced of that, for 100 %. You don’t lose your potential from one day to another. If someone is able to speak 7 languages and has a headache, he doens´t forget how to speak the languages. There were a lot of situations where he showed his enormous potential, even this year. He just couldn’t do it o a consistent basis like in the past years. And already some say: He´s done. That’s real madness and shows, how high he has set the standards. He cant fail without being buried.


In your opinion, how does he deal with the criticism nowadays? It seems like he tries not to make too much drama out of it.

You never know how it looks inside a person. It´s rogers job to protect his inner feelings, because it´s private business. At the same time he is a Ambassedor of Tennis and takes a lot of time for his duties. I think he´s one of the mentally strongest players on tour, otherwise he couldn’t have achieved these incredible results that he did.

Could the gold-medal from the Olympics help him to regain his old strength?

I don´t know. I just think Roger needs time. Maybe more time than you might think at the moment. Roger is a Virtuose, who is ready to fight. But he is no one who can win just with pure fight, without virtuosity. He has to feel comfortable out on the court again, than he can also fight unbelievably, like he has already proven several times in the past. He needs to work on basic things, in tennis as well as in stamina. And even more, he needs success experiences. Others need 2 wins, and they gain confidence. With roger its different. He´s used to win big tournaments and thus needs more success experiences.

There were speculations in Beijing, he could finish the season earlier then expected.

At the moment the focus is on the US Open. After this tournament we will discuss how we move on. For roger a new chapter begins. You have to define your philosophy new, what´s important for you and what you want to change. That will lead to nice discussions, that we will have with our team.

SUKTUEN
08-25-2008, 03:42 PM
why Roger only take pic with Nadal but not with Andy~~:rolleyes::rolleyes:

trickcy
08-25-2008, 04:07 PM
Does anybody have a livestream link for USO? :wavey:

nobama
08-25-2008, 04:17 PM
Very interesting read. Thanks. A few things that stand out for me:

1) They are aware that his explosiveness is absent. That is excellent news. It may be too late for the USO but I think Roger is going to work on it during the off-season.

2) Pierre talks about how Roger has been unable to merge his athleticism and tennis craft effectively. He almost seems poetic about it. :lol: I think he means that Roger's timing has been off the whole year. Again, great news for 2009.

3) This is the sad part and something that some of us knew. He is not ready for the USO. The best he can do is salvage as many points as he can so that he doesn't fall back too far behind Nadal or for that matter Djokovic. The good thing is that they have identified the problems and hopefully will rectify it in the off-season.

I know Roger doesn't want to be #3 by the end of the season but I see no difference between #2 and #3 in the larger scheme of things. This means that Roger should think hard about the post-USO season and skip tournaments so that he is ready to go during AO 2009.I still think if he gets a bit lucky he has a chance at the Open. He's had some of his best results this year at the slams.

Rita
08-25-2008, 04:36 PM
Does anybody have a livestream link for USO? :wavey:

justin tv has quite a while
http://es.justin.tv/live24_2 (now showing Lena D) but frequently change to David Ferrer and Monfils. the last two are both showing Kei Nishikori
http://fr.justin.tv/coloso01
http://fr.justin.tv/tvalertadeportes

lina_seta
08-25-2008, 05:03 PM
those news were great news! it did change my perspective to know how the fed team is taking matters on hand...

of course its ridiculous that roger and his team cant spot the problems that other keyboard-tennis-players can... he knows himself best... he knows whats lacking and what has to be worked on.. he just doesnt share with the press.

trickcy
08-25-2008, 05:17 PM
justin tv has quite a while
http://es.justin.tv/live24_2 (now showing Lena D) but frequently change to David Ferrer and Monfils. the last two are both showing Kei Nishikori
http://fr.justin.tv/coloso01
http://fr.justin.tv/tvalertadeportes
Thanks a lot :wavey:

those news were great news! it did change my perspective to know how the fed team is taking matters on hand...

of course its ridiculous that roger and his team cant spot the problems that other keyboard-tennis-players can... he knows himself best... he knows whats lacking and what has to be worked on.. he just doesnt share with the press.

Exactly.. What arm chair experts can see, it's quite obvious that those who are involved in tennis day in and day out will see.. I mean Roger can hardly come out with a press statement like some people expect him to :retard: He's got to appear confident in his press statements.. He can't say something like :

"Look, this year's been terrible, you know. I mean, I haven't won a major title in what.. 9 months now? Haven't defended any of my titles, you know. Haven't done well against the top players, and obviously I've done disastrously against Rafa. I mean, my forehand's not what it used to be, you know. And the backhand's ..you know about how I've been trying to improve it for the last 10 years. It's the same. A bit of a liability, you know. And my movement, look, that's the foundation for my game, you know, and I feel it's a bit maybe lacking these days. I maybe depend on my serve a little too much. And the recent losses haven't done my confidence any good, you know. I mean, look, right now, I'm losing to anybody and everybody, and that's not what one can call a happy situation, you know."

Can he?
And yet you have people claiming that he should do so. :retard:

rofe
08-25-2008, 05:57 PM
Thanks a lot :wavey:



Exactly.. What arm chair experts can see, it's quite obvious that those who are involved in tennis day in and day out will see.. I mean Roger can hardly come out with a press statement like some people expect him to :retard: He's got to appear confident in his press statements.. He can't say something like :

"Look, this year's been terrible, you know. I mean, I haven't won a major title in what.. 9 months now? Haven't defended any of my titles, you know. Haven't done well against the top players, and obviously I've done disastrously against Rafa. I mean, my forehand's not what it used to be, you know. And the backhand's ..you know about how I've been trying to improve it for the last 10 years. It's the same. A bit of a liability, you know. And my movement, look, that's the foundation for my game, you know, and I feel it's a bit maybe lacking these days. I maybe depend on my serve a little too much. And the recent losses haven't done my confidence any good, you know. I mean, look, right now, I'm losing to anybody and everybody, and that's not what one can call a happy situation, you know."

Can he?
And yet you have people claiming that he should do so. :retard:

Roddick does have very honest press conferences but I agree that Roger won't do that. He has been off his game for some time now starting in 2007 so I won't say that mono was the main problem. Mono certainly didn't help him get better prepared for 2008 both in terms of his practice sessions and his game.

nobama
08-25-2008, 06:31 PM
I see Al Trautwig has become the Chris Flower of USA's coverage. Only thing he doesn't do (yet) is that annoying pronunciation of Rafa Nadal. :rolleyes:

Corey Feldman
08-25-2008, 06:36 PM
Here comes Mr 'I am No.1, but no favorite for any match or tournament i ever play, because Roger is the bestest of all times'

:rolleyes:

dedicated to all the rafatards spying :kiss:

rofe
08-25-2008, 06:45 PM
Here comes Mr 'I am No.1, but no favorite for any match or tournament i ever play, because Roger is the bestest of all times'

:rolleyes:

dedicated to all the rafatards spying :kiss:

Did he really say that or are you messing with Rafatard lurkers?

If he did then it is the Same Old Shit ™ from Nadal. :rolleyes:

He should at least have the basic courtesy to acknowledge that he is the far superior player this year and as #1, he is the favorite.

nobama
08-25-2008, 06:57 PM
Did he really say that or are you messing with Rafatard lurkers?

If he did then it is the Same Old Shit ™ from Nadal. :rolleyes:

He should at least have the basic courtesy to acknowledge that he is the far superior player this year and as #1, he is the favorite.
Shit, he'll never say that. Nadal's MO is playing 'Mr. Humble, I'm the underdog, [insert player name here] is the favorite, no?' As long as the media allows him to get away with that shit he'll keep doing it.

trickcy
08-25-2008, 08:20 PM
Roddick does have very honest press conferences but I agree that Roger won't do that. He has been off his game for some time now starting in 2007 so I won't say that mono was the main problem. Mono certainly didn't help him get better prepared for 2008 both in terms of his practice sessions and his game.

Frankly, 2007 was a mystery to me. The AO at the beginning was one of the best tournaments that he played in his career. Dubai was crap, but he got through it just the same. Then his level of play decreased considerably after that. I wonder why :shrug: The rest of the season, everybody knows. But the TMC was quite surprising to me. After losing to Gonzalez, he upped his game and the difference between Fed and the rest of them was instantly obvious. I don't get it. Yes, the loss would fire him up, and he's motivated for the TMC, and had defeated the others there esp Nadal, but the confidence and the way he played the following matches especially the SF and the F, showed that he still has that extra gear. And even though, from 06, I'd agree that his overall game maybe came down a notch, after the showing in the TMC, I for one expected different results this year. So I think that the lost time definitely played a major factor.

Here comes Mr 'I am No.1, but no favorite for any match or tournament i ever play, because Roger is the bestest of all times'

:rolleyes:

dedicated to all the rafatards spying :kiss:

Shit, he'll never say that. Nadal's MO is playing 'Mr. Humble, I'm the underdog, [insert player name here] is the favorite, no?' As long as the media allows him to get away with that shit he'll keep doing it.

Yep, it's so silly. He'll probably still say "Roger is the greatest in the history of game,no? he's the defending champion, no? For sure, he's the favourite, no?" :rolleyes:

NYCtennisfan
08-25-2008, 09:48 PM
those news were great news! it did change my perspective to know how the fed team is taking matters on hand...

of course its ridiculous that roger and his team cant spot the problems that other keyboard-tennis-players can... he knows himself best... he knows whats lacking and what has to be worked on.. he just doesnt share with the press.

This is very true.

nobama
08-25-2008, 09:50 PM
Schedule for tomorrow is out and Roger plays at night, after Venus Williams. Good thing is we'll get to see his entire match. Bad thing is he'll come out looking like the UPS delivery guy with his all brown outfit. :o

lina_seta
08-25-2008, 11:42 PM
Schedule for tomorrow is out and Roger plays at night, after Venus Williams. Good thing is we'll get to see his entire match. Bad thing is he'll come out looking like the UPS delivery guy with his all brown outfit. :o


if thats the only bad thing that can happen ill take UPS any day.
:bolt:

nobama
08-26-2008, 12:04 AM
Loved this opening ceremony parade of champions. Roger introduced last to loud applause. A bit :retard: though that Andre or Pete weren't there.

rofe
08-26-2008, 12:14 AM
Loved this opening ceremony parade of champions. Roger introduced last to loud applause. A bit :retard: though that Andre or Pete weren't there.

Neither was Jimmy Connors.

nobama
08-26-2008, 12:23 AM
Neither was Jimmy Connors.Or Graff or Edberg. Strange.

lunahielo
08-26-2008, 12:50 AM
Regarding the opening ceremonies~~~He was the only one to get a standing ovation! Absolutely wonderful. :)

Regarding the Rafa pics, etc.~~~I agree with Daniel & others~~(no disrespect to Nadal)~~BUT this is Roger's forum.
To those who talk mostly about Nadal..and post pics of him~~without Roger~~
Please have the courtesy to remember this.
Nadal has his own forum.

Allez Roger~~~stay healthy and do your best..we are all fighting for you!!:hug:
Luna

yanchr
08-26-2008, 01:25 AM
Very interesting read. Thanks. A few things that stand out for me:

1) They are aware that his explosiveness is absent. That is excellent news. It may be too late for the USO but I think Roger is going to work on it during the off-season.

2) Pierre talks about how Roger has been unable to merge his athleticism and tennis craft effectively. He almost seems poetic about it. :lol: I think he means that Roger's timing has been off the whole year. Again, great news for 2009.

3) This is the sad part and something that some of us knew. He is not ready for the USO. The best he can do is salvage as many points as he can so that he doesn't fall back too far behind Nadal or for that matter Djokovic. The good thing is that they have identified the problems and hopefully will rectify it in the off-season.
I never doubt that Roger and his team know where are the problems and what has been lacking and what he needs to work on. Pagginni's words just give me a detailed and inside look at what's been happening this year. This has been a "we have done our best with what we have in hand, nothing more we can do" year. I surely have reasons to stay positive about next year.