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How many titles will Rafa win in 2008 after Cincy this year?

Athletics1982
08-03-2008, 05:07 PM
Well, if you want to discuss, I think that talk this topic is better than say what "When will Nadal win next tournaments", and I will put a vote that is as title, and Mods please don't merge my post this time!! I have a vote, and that's better than other topic's vote options !!

I want to say first, I will define title included Olympics, US Open, Master Series Paris and Madrid, Tennis Master Cup is the last, and doesn't count Davis Cup as titles !! I will only count this 5 tournaments, so the most is 5 titles for Rafa !!

Sebby
08-03-2008, 05:13 PM
I would say 2. Olympics or the US Open + 1 AMS.

finishingmove
08-03-2008, 05:18 PM
1 or 0

but he'll end the year as number 1

Jimnik
08-03-2008, 06:02 PM
7 or 8

schorsch
08-03-2008, 06:43 PM
0 please

rafa the best
08-03-2008, 06:47 PM
He doesn't have to win anything more this season , it's been an incredible ride so far. I think he can win Madrid or Paris.

jenanun
08-03-2008, 06:58 PM
olympics and madrid

he doesnt need to win any more title to be year end no.1, as long as he can reach SF in most tournament, including USO.....

Damn
08-03-2008, 10:28 PM
I think that people forget several basic statistics about Nadal and start talking too much BS. Let's see, because it's plain and simple:

Clay/Grass Season, Nadal best surfaces: absolute dominance from Nadal, winning all the tournaments, 2 GS + 2 AMS + Barcelona + Queens, winning streak, etc, etc, all that we already know.

Hard Season, Nadal worst surface by far (especially summer HC season): well, what do we have here? The fact is that Nadal is the best player (tied with Murray) during this part of the season, he is who has gained more points being his worst surface and being tired. He has achieved a W and a SF. On the other hand we have Djokovic (the utter GOAT of this sport) who has achieved QF and F in his best surface (that's what I call to dominate the surface, superb domination, isn't it?)

During the 2008 season Nadal's results have been 7 titles, 2 finals, 2 S/F an his "worst" result, the Q/F in Dubai.

What I am trying to say? I'm saying that in this forums people think (or want to believe) that Nadal isn't gonna win more titles this year because of his loss in S/F in his worst tournament of the whole year, after 32-winning-streak in 3 surfaces, 5 consecutive titles, the number #1 spot after 158 weeks of #2, the RG-Wimbly back to back and his dominance in the whole 2008 season that is reflected in the nearly 400 points over the second in the ATP race.

Nadal is gonna win, at least, 2 more tournaments, and will reach S/F in the others without too much touble.

PS: Nadal is the best player of 2008 by far, even if he decides to rest from now til' the AO 2009 (just an example, obviously)

groundstroke
08-03-2008, 10:35 PM
hopefully ZERO.

Albatros99
08-04-2008, 01:17 AM
Hopefully the lot to stress those stomach ulcers in MTF.

JolánGagó
08-04-2008, 01:57 AM
I think that people forget several basic statistics about Nadal and start talking too much BS. Let's see, because it's plain and simple:

Clay/Grass Season, Nadal best surfaces: absolute dominance from Nadal, winning all the tournaments, 2 GS + 2 AMS + Barcelona + Queens, winning streak, etc, etc, all that we already know.

Hard Season, Nadal worst surface by far (especially summer HC season): well, what do we have here? The fact is that Nadal is the best player (tied with Murray) during this part of the season, he is who has gained more points being his worst surface and being tired. He has achieved a W and a SF. On the other hand we have Djokovic (the utter GOAT of this sport) who has achieved QF and F in his best surface (that's what I call to dominate the surface, superb domination, isn't it?)

During the 2008 season Nadal's results have been 7 titles, 2 finals, 2 S/F an his "worst" result, the Q/F in Dubai.

What I am trying to say? I'm saying that in this forums people think (or want to believe) that Nadal isn't gonna win more titles this year because of his loss in S/F in his worst tournament of the whole year, after 32-winning-streak in 3 surfaces, 5 consecutive titles, the number #1 spot after 158 weeks of #2, the RG-Wimbly back to back and his dominance in the whole 2008 season that is reflected in the nearly 400 points over the second in the ATP race.

Nadal is gonna win, at least, 2 more tournaments, and will reach S/F in the others without too much touble.

PS: Nadal is the best player of 2008 by far, even if he decides to rest from now til' the AO 2009 (just an example, obviously)


You're just stating the utter obvious but it's doomed to fall on deaf ears in this place.

rafa_maniac
08-04-2008, 03:23 AM
I've been thinking he'd win AMS Madrid for quite a while now, and I stick to that. I think he might be playing Bangkok as an optional too so perhaps that, otherwise I don't see him winning else this year, nor do I care. He's already achieved above and beyond all I could possibly have hoped for this year, and will rightfully end the year #1 almost regardless of his results in the next few months.

ghostbear
08-04-2008, 03:32 AM
More than Fed, which isn't saying much. :angel:

ChinoRios4Ever
08-04-2008, 03:55 AM
2-3.

Clay Death
08-04-2008, 04:08 AM
2-3.

he will target the U.S. Open and the Masters Cup. he has taken everything else away from Fed so why not take away these 2 titles too and leave Fed with nothing.

wasnt it Fed who said that "#2 or #3 dont matter" and that "its the #1 rank that matters"?

well he (Fed) will now have to live with the fact that he doesnt matter.

ChinoRios4Ever
08-04-2008, 04:12 AM
he will target the U.S. Open and the Masters Cup. he has taken everything else away from Fed so why not take away these 2 titles too and leave Fed with nothing.

wasnt it Fed who said that "#2 or #3 dont matter" and that "its the #1 rank that matters"?

well he (Fed) will now have to live with the fact that he doesnt matter.

Fed will bounce back in 2009.

Clay Death
08-04-2008, 04:27 AM
Fed will bounce back in 2009.

3 players will keep a lid on Fed going forward:

1. Clay Monster
2. Djokovic
3. Murray

2009 season will be his most disasterous season yet. he will no longer have the benefit of being the top seed and could drop to #3. lower rankings have serious implications at masters events and slams.

he will continue to be out of form and even more importantly, out of confidence. that one hander is a massive liability now that the field is improving.

leng jai
08-04-2008, 04:49 AM
Fedmug has gotten away with having a feebl one hander for far too long. All the young guns on his tail possess god-like two fisters and Fedmug will find his ranking spiral into oblivion by mid 2009.

Clay Death
08-04-2008, 04:58 AM
Fedmug has gotten away with having a feebl one hander for far too long. All the young guns on his tail possess god-like two fisters and Fedmug will find his ranking spiral into oblivion by mid 2009.


affirmative. truer words were never spoken.

Bazooka
08-04-2008, 07:57 AM
Again the old one hander crap.

One hander is fine, do you play tennis yourself and know other players? there can be some benefits on both shots, but neither has a serious advantage. Roger's BH has been on fire on many matches in 2005 and 2006.

Bazooka
08-04-2008, 08:07 AM
On topic: he was defeated by the Joker, but the Joker is too inconsistent right now to be considered a lock in for the semis or final, and I can't see another player right now being a favourite against him in fast courts.

And even if he lost to him, I am sure he got a little confidence about his future encounters from that second set. He was the better player for most of it; He has some chances to win, specially on a best of five and on a slightly slower surface, and luckily most major tournaments are slower than Cincy.

So my answer is, he will win one of the three big events remaining, or maybe two (but not likely). I think the USO can be the one.

Also he will win either Madrid or Paris.

And the Davis Cup of course.

MILOS
08-04-2008, 11:44 AM
Only 1 in Shanghai.
But he will stay no.1 for sure

prima donna
08-04-2008, 12:53 PM
Only 1 in Shanghai.
But he will stay no.1 for sure
Well, the likelihood of Nadal winning Shanghai is rather low when one takes into account the lightning fast speed of this particular court, this factor coupled along with your prediction that he will perform abysmally for the duration of the indoor season, which given his ranking is just how I'd describe such results, makes it particularly difficult to foresee that he will redeem himself by beating arguably what is to be the toughest field of players in quite a while, especially after having struggled at this venue in the past against players with fewer weapons.

Several matches in which Nadal has played in Shanghai have been grueling affairs, with matches against Davydenko, Gasquet, Blake & Federer coming to mind -- two of four which he won, largely due to the inability of his opponents to convert their opportunities during the more vital stages of these given matches.

All in all, I'd just find it difficult to envision a scenario in which Nadal would suffer a title drought and then promptly storm into Shanghai, foaming at the mouth and thinking to himself "I've got them right where I want them." It's very unlikely.

finishingmove
08-04-2008, 01:37 PM
:lol:

PiggyGotRoasted
08-04-2008, 03:13 PM
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