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Magic Muzza defeats Dr Ivo 6-4 6-4 to reach his first TMS Final

adee-gee
08-02-2008, 07:34 PM
Stunning exhibition of returning from Muzza, broke Karlovic 4 times :worship:

Now go and win the final son :yeah:

Allegretto
08-02-2008, 07:36 PM
Amazing after being 0-2 down in the first set. Broke right back and then went on to break 3 more times. Brilliant performance.

Smoke944
08-02-2008, 07:36 PM
Murray is a very good returner but just terrible from Dr. Ivo today. :rolleyes:

RagingLamb
08-02-2008, 07:36 PM
the live score just finished for me...my connection must be slow

edit: I did watch the first set, great play from Murray. Well done!

Clydey
08-02-2008, 07:36 PM
The best returning display I've ever seen from the best returner in the world. Outstanding tennis all around.

Jaap
08-02-2008, 07:36 PM
Expected one.

Herdwick
08-02-2008, 07:37 PM
Credit to Andy - terrific week. I can hear Roger gnashing his teeth from here though. If Karlovic had played like that on Thursday....

Clydey
08-02-2008, 07:37 PM
Murray is a very good returner but just terrible from Dr. Ivo today. :rolleyes:

Ivo served at 75% in the second set and got broken twice. Nothing wrong with his performance. Murray simply outplayed him.

Johnny Groove
08-02-2008, 07:37 PM
Murray will be ranked #6 on Monday :eek:

Action Jackson
08-02-2008, 07:38 PM
He will bend over for Nadal or Djokovic in the final, but congrats on making his 1st TMS final.

Clydey
08-02-2008, 07:38 PM
Credit to Andy - terrific week. I can hear Roger gnashing his teeth from here though. If Karlovic had played like that on Thursday....

He did. Federer just doesn't have Murray returns.

anon57
08-02-2008, 07:38 PM
Good match, great returning by Murray:yeah:

Blue Heart24
08-02-2008, 07:38 PM
Magic my ass.

Despite Murray's returns,Ivo played and served like utter crap today.
Pathetic match.

Anyway,great tournament for Ivo,well done man and now go for it at the Olympics :yeah:

Murray will get bitchslaped tomorrow as usual.:D:D (And you can forget that fluke win last week,wont happen again.:D)

Clydey
08-02-2008, 07:38 PM
He will bend over for Nadal or Djokovic in the final, but congrats on making his 1st TMS final.

He beat Nole last week.

habibko
08-02-2008, 07:39 PM
Murray's game is just getting better and better :worship: but Ivo certainly didn't serve like he did previously in this tournament, good win Muzza and good luck in the final :cool:

peterparker
08-02-2008, 07:39 PM
Too easy. Murray has too many weapons and if he gets the forehand to the next level, he will be a serious consistent threat to both nadal and djokovic. You have to like the matches these three are going to play against each other and with Fed. over the next couple of years.

Horatio Caine
08-02-2008, 07:39 PM
:bowdown:

He has now practically sealed a top 10 finish for the season, is close to securing himself a place in the "Shanghai 8" (bar is usually 370-450pts) and is in a strong position to challenge for world #4. Just don't get injured. :awww:

Well done Muzza! :D

Xenosys
08-02-2008, 07:39 PM
Superb from Murray. Really happy he came through that in 2 relatively close sets. It's a testament to Murray's returning game that Karlovic served very few aces and is probably up there with Nadal in that aspect of his game as one of the best in the world. He almost got every one of his returns in against a server such as Karlovic.

I was also impressed with his own stats for the match. 77% of FSs in has to be good and put's him firmly in contention tomorrow night.

PS. Well Done Muzza for reaching a career high 6 in the world to boot.

neenah
08-02-2008, 07:39 PM
Go Murray :rocker2:

Guga_fan
08-02-2008, 07:39 PM
The best returning display I've ever seen from the best returner in the world. Outstanding tennis all around.

Even though Muzza returned well, is was nothing out of this world. He still has to improve to be the best returner. Karlovic didn't play that bad, considering his standards, but his service was not good, and that lost him the match. Just 7 aces...

dodoboy
08-02-2008, 07:40 PM
Murray broke 4 times :worship:

Career-high ranking!

Takes down the giant :bowdown: Great play Murray!

I knew he could do it this week :) Needs to find a way to get to top 4 after USO.

JolánGagó
08-02-2008, 07:40 PM
Murray on fire. Well done, nice to see the new generation advances.

The serving bot-giraffe managed only 61% first serve points won, Murray 80% :lol:

Does Muzza believe that patchy beard is cool or anything?

Corey Feldman
08-02-2008, 07:41 PM
Get in there boyo :D

take that Ivo you big asswipe

Smoke944
08-02-2008, 07:41 PM
Ivo served at 75% in the second set and got broken twice. Nothing wrong with his performance. Murray simply outplayed him.

Karlovic was not hitting the corners at all in this match, not sure why.

Clydey
08-02-2008, 07:41 PM
Murray's game is just getting better and better :worship: but Ivo certainly didn't serve like he did previously in this tournament, good win Muzza and good luck in the final :cool:

Not sure why people are saying that. Ivo served at 70% for the match. Is that poor serving? It's remarkable that people would rather call 70% first serves poor rather than admit that Murray's returns were just too good.

~Maya~
08-02-2008, 07:41 PM
Murray handled it pretty well. Congratulation on a good win
Ivo was nervous today. He showed that he can play tennis well on couple of occasions but for some reason does not go for it more often:confused: He needs some good coaching

Deathless Mortal
08-02-2008, 07:41 PM
Very good performance by Murray, some of the passing shots and lobs he hit :worship:
Not a very good match by Ivo, but it's obvious he can't play against Murray when he is playing his best. Too bad that he lost that game at 4-4 40-15 :(
A good week for him anyway, will be #18 on Monday and good luck to him in Beijing :yeah:
Good luck to Murray in the final too :)

Mashachosen1
08-02-2008, 07:42 PM
Ivo :o Murray with only 11 UE :eek:

Kore
08-02-2008, 07:43 PM
Great win for andy! to break Karlovic once let alone 4 is amazing

tangerine_dream
08-02-2008, 07:43 PM
Thanks to Snagglepuss for finally cutting down the tree. :worship: He will have the advantage in the final tomorrow with the extra time off to rest, Novak and Rafa aren't scheduled to play for another four hours. If he wins that ought to cheer Escude up a bit.

Duncan
08-02-2008, 07:44 PM
Congrats Andy. Great effort to break Ivo 4 times, not many people can do that!

Good luck tomorrow.

Number 6 on monday :woohoo:

Clydey
08-02-2008, 07:44 PM
Even though Muzza returned well, is was nothing out of this world. He still has to improve to be the best returner. Karlovic didn't play that bad, considering his standards, but his service was not good, and that lost him the match. Just 7 aces...

Who returns better? He broke Ivo 4 times even though he served at 70% for the match.

finishingmove
08-02-2008, 07:44 PM
got broken by karlovic twice?

:lol:

DhammaTiger
08-02-2008, 07:45 PM
Congrats to Murray, I predict he will take the title.

murray_2k8
08-02-2008, 07:45 PM
:woohoo: :bounce:

Clydey
08-02-2008, 07:45 PM
got broken by karlovic twice?

:lol:

Murray needs to cut that out. He has so many lapses on serve that it's going to cost him.

Xenosys
08-02-2008, 07:46 PM
Not sure why people are saying that. Ivo served at 70% for the match. Is that poor serving? It's remarkable that people would rather call 70% first serves poor rather than admit that Murray's returns were just too good.

+1.

In all fairness, Karlovic was pretty poor first set and deserved the spanking he got from Murray in that set. Second set though, he must of served at least 80% in that set alone. There wasn't much variation but you don't serve 80% FS and expect to be broken twice if your Karlovic. As long as Andy got the return in, there was always a good chance he'd get another chance at winning the point.

oranges
08-02-2008, 07:46 PM
Disappointing result. Two breaks and not even make it to a TB, Ivo :scratch:

Clay Death
08-02-2008, 07:47 PM
Murray on fire. Well done, nice to see the new generation advances.

The serving bot-giraffe managed only 61% first serve points won, Murray 80% :lol:

Does Muzza believe that patchy beard is cool or anything?

he is uglier than a spotted hyena. i guess he fired his so called image consultant since nothing can help his image anyway.

RIboy
08-02-2008, 07:47 PM
Ivo played on his standard level but Andy was outstanding.....despite 69% of 1st serve Ivo was broken 4 times- only Andy can do this

well done maestro Andy:worship:

Blue Heart24
08-02-2008, 07:47 PM
Get in there boyo :D

take that Ivo you big asswipe

Still in :tears: about that Roger loss on Thursday?
:sad:

Clydey
08-02-2008, 07:47 PM
+1.

In all fairness, Karlovic was pretty poor first set and deserved the spanking he got from Murray in that set. Second set though, he must of served at least 80% in that set alone. There wasn't much variation but you don't serve 80% FS and expect to be broken twice if your Karlovic. As long he got the return in, there was always a good chance he'd get another chance at winning the point.

He served at 75% in the second set and only won 61% of points when he got the first serve in :worship:

Clydey
08-02-2008, 07:48 PM
he is uglier than a spotted hyena. i guess he fired his so called image consultant since nothing can help his image anyway.

Great contribution to the thread.

blank_frackis
08-02-2008, 07:49 PM
Even though Muzza returned well, is was nothing out of this world. He still has to improve to be the best returner. Karlovic didn't play that bad, considering his standards, but his service was not good, and that lost him the match. Just 7 aces...

7 aces because of poor serving or great returning? To be honest I'm not too surprised at the way the match went, I've seen Murray play Karlovic before and it was exactly the same. I just think Karlovic and Murray is a mismatch of styles and Murray is always going to come out on top unless Ivo plays out of his skin.

Schu
08-02-2008, 07:49 PM
Excellent returning from Murray and Murray is looking good (how I HATE to say that) but it is amazing how bad Karlovic can look when someone manages to get a decent return back.

VAMOS Rafa - unless Djokovic somehow manages a win tonight in which case I'm screwed, 2 of my least favorite playing.

finishingmove
08-02-2008, 07:49 PM
Does Muzza believe that patchy beard is cool or anything?

seriously... it looks like a pubic hair transplant

Xenosys
08-02-2008, 07:50 PM
He served at 75% in the second set and only won 61% of points when he got the first serve in :worship:

Still extraordinary :)

Murray obviously likes playing against big servers such as Roddick and Karlovic, as he's got a winning record over both. Should be a tricky one tomorrow, but I'm glad Muzza got through this one unscathed. Lapses in concentration are a bit worrying, but it's nice to see his on-court attitude has improved ten-fold. It no longer looks like a weakness for other players to exploit.

Guga_fan
08-02-2008, 07:50 PM
Who returns better? He broke Ivo 4 times even though he served at 70% for the match.

Federer. I'm not saying he doesn't return pretty well, but he is not the best, and even if he was, today's match would not prove this. Although Ivo served at 70%, he didn't seem to be going for aces, for the corners, and that resulted in only for aces, considering that this week Karlovic has done more than 20 in a match that lasted 2 sets.

Bernard Black
08-02-2008, 07:51 PM
he is uglier than a spotted hyena. i guess he fired his so called image consultant since nothing can help his image anyway.

Judging by the amount of time you spend on the internet we can safely say Murray gets more action in a week than you will in your lifetime.

Great performance from the Scot today, hope he can keep up this good run. Will be extremely tough for him whoever he plays in the final, at least if it's Djokovic he has experience of having beaten him recently.

Clydey
08-02-2008, 07:51 PM
Still extraordinary :)

Murray obviously likes playing against big servers such as Roddick and Karlovic, as he's got a winning record over both. Should be a tricky one tomorrow, but I'm glad Muzza got through this one unscathed. Lapses in concentration are a bit worrying, but it's nice to see his on-court attitude has improved ten-fold. It no longer looks like a weakness for other players to exploit.

Yeah, I'm surprised at how calm he has been in the last 3 tournaments.

green25814
08-02-2008, 07:52 PM
I predicted this. Muzza made karlo's serve look average :D

Anyone else noticed how few ue's murray makes now? All of a sudden hes become way more consistent.

green25814
08-02-2008, 07:53 PM
seriously... it looks like a pubic hair transplant

He does need a shave, but as long as he keeps winning i dont really give a shit :p

dodoboy
08-02-2008, 07:54 PM
mUZZA REALLY needs to shave that thing of his face.

Voo de Mar
08-02-2008, 07:54 PM
I think Ivo wasn't serving so well like in the previous matches because Murray returns better than Federer and Kohlschreiber, especially after Karlovic's second serve. I was complaining many times on Ivo's second serve. IMO it is just an average shot. Murray returns this second serve very well therefore Karlovic was serving slower 1st serve today to have higher % of 1st serve in. It wasn't the right tactics because the percent of 1st serve was lower than in the previous rounds. In the other words: Karlovic's tactics for today's match was interesting but wrong :help:

Clydey
08-02-2008, 07:54 PM
Federer. I'm not saying he doesn't return pretty well, but he is not the best, and even if he was, today's match would not prove this. Although Ivo served at 70%, he didn't seem to be going for aces, for the corners, and that resulted in only for aces, considering that this week Karlovic has done more than 20 in a match that lasted 2 sets.

Federer? Must be kidding. If you had said Ferrer, Djokovic or Davydenko that would be one thing, but Federer just looks to get the ball in play. He chips the backhand return every time and does nothing with the return except get the point started. He hardly ever breaks Ivo. Murray has, I believe, 10 breaks in 3 matches.

gjr
08-02-2008, 07:54 PM
Nice win.

Murrays on the fast train to the top 4. Only Ferrer and Davy to catch now.

RIboy
08-02-2008, 07:54 PM
Federer. I'm not saying he doesn't return pretty well, but he is not the best, and even if he was, today's match would not prove this. Although Ivo served at 70%, he didn't seem to be going for aces, for the corners, and that resulted in only for aces, considering that this week Karlovic has done more than 20 in a match that lasted 2 sets.

OMG:smash:....Fed's BH side return is total crap, all those 135+mph serves on that side were winners or easy volleys

JolánGagó
08-02-2008, 07:55 PM
seriously... it looks like a pubic hair transplant

:haha:

MacTheKnife
08-02-2008, 07:55 PM
Knew if I picked Karlovic it would seal the win for Murray. Glad I didn't bet any cash this week the way I've been picking um. Great returns and unreal passing shots by Murray. Well deserved win..

RogandyFan
08-02-2008, 07:55 PM
Credit to Andy - terrific week. I can hear Roger gnashing his teeth from here though. If Karlovic had played like that on Thursday....

The Karlovic's first serve percentage dropped this match. But Fed showed vulnerability and everyone is hungry for revenge. He has made a fool out of them for 4 years. I am sure Fed will bounce back after he takes a break. He just needs to remember how he got there.

adee-gee
08-02-2008, 07:58 PM
Not sure why people are saying that. Ivo served at 70% for the match. Is that poor serving? It's remarkable that people would rather call 70% first serves poor rather than admit that Murray's returns were just too good.
Nothing wrong with Ivo's serving at all, Murray made it look average.

Deathless Mortal
08-02-2008, 07:59 PM
I think Ivo wasn't serving so well like in the previous matches because Murray returns better than Federer and Kohlschreiber, especially after Karlovic's second serve. I was complaining many times on Ivo's second serve. IMO it is just an average shot. Murray returns this second serve very well therefore Karlovic was serving slower 1st serve today to have higher % of 1st serve in. It wasn't the right tactics because the percent of 1st serve was lower than in the previous rounds. In the other words: Karlovic's tactics for today's match was interesting but wrong :help:

Very well said. :yeah:
Why didn't I think of that? :angel:

scoobs
08-02-2008, 07:59 PM
Great performance Andy.

Ivo wasn't serving that badly but he was definitely rattled at how many returns came back, and came back into a difficult place on the court for Ivo to deal with. He was still finding bombs and hitting big but how many other players get 135mph first serves on the centre like back and back down to his shoelaces?

Was a stunning return performance from Andy.

When Andy broke out some serve-volley as well, his own service games became much easier - I was annoyed that he lost serve in the second set because he took his foot off the gas a little bit - needs to stop doing that.

Otherwise, pretty much all the Murray magic was working very well today and he looked nerveless taking the spot in the final.

Excellent week's work. It's one thing to be the underdog and come through but he was expected to make the finals from the top half after the events of earlier this week, and he did so with some great displays.

rocketassist
08-02-2008, 08:01 PM
Too fucking good.

One more now lad, and the TMS trophy awaits.

thelma
08-02-2008, 08:01 PM
:)

sdtoot
08-02-2008, 08:05 PM
Great performance from Andy. At least the paying spectators should see a final with some decent rallies tomorrow.

Mechlan
08-02-2008, 08:05 PM
Sweet. Just go out there and perform tomorrow. It's been a fantastic week already.

Sheepy
08-02-2008, 08:09 PM
Congrats Andy! Good luck for the final tomorrow!

MIMIC
08-02-2008, 08:10 PM
Murray's return game was exceptional. He didn't allow Karlovic to walk all over him like Federer did.

RogandyFan
08-02-2008, 08:11 PM
Edit: oh yeah forgot this

Well done Andy!!! Regardless of whom you play tomorrow, keep on fighting and there will be talk of the big four when Fed returns. :)

Martin
08-02-2008, 08:24 PM
Well played Andy, tremendous result. There was a lot of pressure on him this week with the way the draw opened up and he's done extremely well to make it to the final.

No pressure on him tomorrow and hopefully he'll sneak a surprise.

prafull
08-02-2008, 08:37 PM
Right Handed Nadal clone won today

Jimnik
08-02-2008, 08:44 PM
Muzza :worship: The best returner of the modern era, without a doubt. Karlovic had to hit the lines to get any aces past and even when he did Muzza got one or two back. Nalbandian would have been proud of this returning performance.

On these fast courts I would definitely fancy Muzza's chances against either Rafa or Djoker.

NinaNina19
08-02-2008, 08:50 PM
He can win the final.

ChinoRios4Ever
08-02-2008, 08:52 PM
expected

Muzza has all the tools to kill Ivo :yeah:

Sebby
08-02-2008, 08:58 PM
wow congrats Murray! I had expected a closer match (no tie-break) :eek:

groundstroke
08-02-2008, 09:01 PM
Murray in a AMS Final? Tennis is dying more and more...

Clydey
08-02-2008, 09:08 PM
Murray in a AMS Final? Tennis is dying more and more...

Yep, Murray is just a ball basher :sad:

groundstroke
08-02-2008, 09:10 PM
Doesn't matter, Rafa/Djokovic will trash Murray in the final.

betowiec
08-02-2008, 09:10 PM
nevah in doubt Andrew

Lullaby
08-02-2008, 09:13 PM
Muzza has all the tools to be the very best as i have always said - Problem is to do so he needs to put it all together both physically and mentally which may / may not ever happen

great result though and a cracking few weeks showing progress has been made ...

HeretiC
08-02-2008, 09:13 PM
Andy definitely matured as a player, it will be interesting to see if he can maintain that and improve even further. Those 3 lob winners were really art work. Ivo was far away from his best, although Andy made him looked that way a bit. It could be competitive final no matter if it is against Djokovic or Nadal (if he chose right tactics).

Bilbo
08-02-2008, 09:14 PM
finally the tree has fallen

Lullaby
08-02-2008, 09:20 PM
Andy definitely matured as a player, it will be interesting to see if he can maintain that and improve even further. Those 3 lob winners were really art work. Ivo was far away from his best, although Andy made him looked that way a bit. It could be competitive final no matter if it is against Djokovic or Nadal (if he chose right tactics).

I think he will injury permitting become a much better player over the next couple of years, he still does not have the consistency or strength for long term challenges imo

You have to think that he was a rather gangly youth whose body is developing as apposed to his rivals who all seemed to develop far quicker. Shot wise he has it all

rofe
08-02-2008, 09:28 PM
Well played Muzza! Murray's anticipation of Karlovic's serve was top notch and he was getting a lot of looks in Karlovic's service games.

I also liked him coming into the net. While it was not really required in today's match, I think he and his team are thinking long term about it. He is still going on walkabouts. Broken twice by Karlovic in a two set match is not a good stat.

He will need to be more consistent in the final to make it competitive.

Karolina_Sprem
08-02-2008, 09:40 PM
Fairy tale for Karlovic eventually had to finish and it happened this evening. His best weapon through tournament his serve let him down and as I said already no other weapons in other elements of his game from Karlovic to balance this so this lost came as a result.
Overall Karlovic should be happy because he was quite lucky throughout the tournament...

Thx Murry for saving this tournament...

Rogieva
08-02-2008, 09:56 PM
Some great returns and good demolition of this mug. Good lobs to.

Just needs to bend over for Nadal spanking him in the final.

Black Adam
08-02-2008, 09:58 PM
I wonder how Murray will perform in the bigges match of his career so far. He has the chance to separate himself from Gasquet/Monfils/JMDP and join the likes of Nadal/Djokovic/Berdych who have won TMS tournaments.

shotgun
08-02-2008, 10:03 PM
Murray better pray it's Djokovic tomorrow, because against Nadal his chances will be slim.

scoobs
08-02-2008, 10:05 PM
Murray wants Nadal.

shotgun
08-02-2008, 10:07 PM
Murray wants Nadal.

Really? Both are bad match-ups for him, but Nadal is worse.

bad gambler
08-02-2008, 10:07 PM
Make it count now Muzza and win on Sunday.

richie21
08-02-2008, 10:07 PM
I wonder how Murray will perform in the bigges match of his career so far. He has the chance to separate himself from Gasquet/Monfils/JMDP and join the likes of Nadal/Djokovic/Berdych who have won TMS tournaments.

How can you put JMDP or even Monfils in the same bracket as Gasquet??
Despite the fact he has widely failed to live to the hype so far,Gasquet has still made 2 MS finals (both lost against Federer....too bad it was the real Federer,not the current one),made 1 GS 1/2 final,made the TMC and won 5 titles.
JMDP and even Monfils(despite his recent FO's 1/2 final) are not close to have achieved as much as him so far


Anyway i'm so happy for Andy!
I really hope he'll win tomorrow.
Good to see at least one talented youngster living up to the hype

scoobs
08-02-2008, 10:10 PM
Really? Both are bad match-ups for him, but Nadal is worse.
Yep.

He was asked after the match if he had a preference. He said Nadal. They asked why and he said:

"Because he'll be the new number one, I've never beaten him, and I think I can."

Whether he can or not, whether he will or not, it's the right attitude.

Andi-M
08-02-2008, 10:16 PM
Muzzah is soo ready for this. Ive always believed he is a potential no1 and nothing i have seen this week has made me feel any differently, i am soo impressed and soo utterly delighted!!

This guy can be great he is soo clever i admire his game more than anyones he can do anything on court he is super-talented, and his attitude recently has been spot on...the psychotic outburts are virtually non-existant.

He really has matured so well mentally and physically and most importantly hes also getting more and more handsome by the day *swoons*

Sorry for the fangirl outburst.

Black Adam
08-02-2008, 10:18 PM
How can you put JMDP or even Monfils in the same bracket as Gasquet??
Despite the fact he has widely failed to live to the hype so far,Gasquet has still made 2 MS finals (both lost against Federer....too bad it was the real Federer,not the current one),made 1 GS 1/2 final,made the TMC and won 5 titles.
JMDP and even Monfils(despite his recent FO's 1/2 final) are not close to have achieved as much as him so far


Anyway i'm so happy for Andy!
I really hope he'll win tomorrow.
Good to see at least one talented youngster living up to the hype
http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/mba0433l.jpg
Relax dude. Read well before doing the Usual Gasquet Fanboyism. I mean in terms of the youngsters who are hyped to be tomorrow's next big thing and still haven't won a TMS event. Murray, Gasquet, Monfils and JMDP form that group

richie21
08-02-2008, 10:23 PM
http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/mba0433l.jpg
Relax dude. Read well before doing the Usual Gasquet Fanboyism. I mean in terms of the youngsters who are hyped to be tomorrow's next big thing and still haven't won a TMS event. Murray, Gasquet, Monfils and JMDP form that group

I'm very relax ;)

jonny84
08-02-2008, 10:37 PM
Great for Andy. First AMS final! Thats great!

Spes
08-02-2008, 10:41 PM
Disgusting. I just puked all over myself.

Dr. Ivo five levels below what he has been the past few days. His serve was not there today, shockingly. It's a shame, he really should have made this final. I hope he gets more opportunities in the future, he really grew on me this week. I didn't know he was such a fighter. Props to him for a career week. Ajm0.

Lose the final, Muzzasshole.

decrepitude
08-02-2008, 10:59 PM
Muzzah . . .

hes also getting more and more handsome by the day *swoons*

I hope that was sarcastic! I must be one of his biggest fans, and one of the most long-serving, but handsome? :haha:

Rafalover15
08-02-2008, 11:00 PM
Yeah baby

Keep going till you meet Nadal :hug:

Suck on it :rocker2:

SheepleBuster
08-02-2008, 11:08 PM
I think this match exactly shows why Federer's time has passed. When he came along he started chipping the return and making players play. It was good for a few years until Nadal and Djokovic came along. I think in the future we are going to see returners like Murray come along. That's the next logical step. People who return aggressively and in high percentages. I feel bad for Roddick and Karlovic as these guys could have won big titles in days where courts were faster. Federer broke Karlovic once but he really couldn't return in tie-breaks. It's pathetic to think that the No. 1 in the world loses the tie-break the minute he surrenders a mini-break but that happened to Roger. Roger will be No. 4 soon enough as I can't see him beating Murray anytime soon. Now I know a lot of you laughed at Chris Folwer's thing about Federer's retirement at the end of the year, but why would Federer play if he is not even in top 2? If he starts losing in Grand Slams (like in 2nd or 3rd rounds) he will retire, even if it's next year.

Andi-M
08-02-2008, 11:09 PM
I hope that was sarcastic! I must be one of his biggest fans, and one of the most long-serving, but handsome? :haha:

:lol:

Im pretty in love with his game and attitude right now that could be having some effect on my eyes I guess.....:p

krystlel
08-02-2008, 11:19 PM
Superb match from Murray. That was one of the best matches I've seen him play and a very enjoyable one for me to watch. I was surprised when the match first started how often Karlovic found his way into the net during the groundstroke rallies when usually he would just try and stay in the rallies. Obviously it had something to do with the depth on Murray's shots but I still don't remember Karlovic usually doing much of that. Murray must have noticed the same thing because he started to take the net away from him after that.

Apart from that, Murray returned almost every single serve that wasn't placed exceptionally well and got it down low most of the time, hit great passing shots and lobs and played a nice all-court game in general (very tactically aware). I noticed that he didn't serve and volley as much later on in the match though which was a bit disappointing considering that it helped him get back into the match.

Clydey
08-02-2008, 11:30 PM
Someone posted this stat on another forum.

Karlovic 1st serve percentage:

vs Murray 69%- 4 breaks in 10 games.
vs Kohlschreiber 72%- 0 breaks in 12 games.
vs Federer 71%- 1 break in 17 games.

Breaking Karlovic in nearly half of his service games is pretty impressive, particularly as the difference in serving from match to match is negligible. Karlovic pretty much served just as well today as he did against Fed. Hopefully Murray can maintain his form tomorrow.

AndyUK
08-02-2008, 11:33 PM
Well done Murray, hit some fantastic shots. Karlovic's serve was off today and boy could you tell.

+alonso
08-02-2008, 11:38 PM
YAY! Nice, I don't like Murray's character but I am glad He took Karlovic out :D

Albop
08-02-2008, 11:40 PM
A big :worship: for muzza.

Merton
08-03-2008, 12:18 AM
Well done Andy, his first masters final and he has chances to win regardless of his opponent, even though I doubt he will. Now it is time for a deep run in the US Open.

HoistDaColors
08-03-2008, 01:42 AM
good stuff murray. karlovic's serve and volleys were off but credit to andy to step up after losing his first service game.

Sunset of Age
08-03-2008, 04:24 AM
I think this match exactly shows why Federer's time has passed.

You can't be serious, at least I hope not.
In the match that Karlovic played against Federer (and Kohlschreiber as well), his serve was FANTASTIC. In his match against Murray, it was completely M.I.A. As Karlovic game is still (despite his improvement) based for 95% on the level of his serving, it's ridiculous to draw any conclusions about Fed's playing in reference to Murray's in those respective matches.
And concerning Fed's upcoming retirement... shall we make a bet on that? I'm willing to put all my cash on stake, there. :rolleyes:

All that notwithstanding - CONGRATS, Muzza, on reaching your first Master Series Final! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Well done indeed, and I wish him the best of luck against Djoko tomorrow. :yeah:

Clydey
08-03-2008, 01:37 PM
Andy Murray

CINCINNATI, OHIO

A. MURRAY/I. Karlovic
6-4, 6-4

THE MODERATOR: Questions, please.

Q. You seemed to have the knack of getting his serve back better than most people.
ANDY MURRAY: Yeah, I played him three times now, and every time I've broke him. I broke him I think four times today. I broke him three times at Indian Wells. Then San Jose I think I broke him three times as well.
You know, he's obviously got a great serve, but I've read it well in the past. Today I did the same. Although I was reading his serve good, you still got to come up with passes because he volleys well.
You know, I hit some great lobs and passing shots, which is why I managed to break him so many times.

Q. Is it harder to receive that serve in these quick conditions?
ANDY MURRAY: It depends. Some of the serves are harder to return in these conditions, but if you get a good racquet on it it comes through so fast off the court. If you make good contact, it's tough for him to get into the net as close. Sometimes when he plays on clay he'll serve and he'll have a bit more time to get into the net.
Here I and managed to get a lot of returns down to his feet. Just depends which serve he hits.

Q. Does the height that it comes from have any impact in the whole thing? Does it feel different because of that?
ANDY MURRAY: No. Well, when I practice returning I get my coach to serve from just behind the service line, you know, so I get used to the ball coming through at that height.
It also obviously improves your reaction and stuff. You know, my coach isn't here just now, but when we're training in the off-season and stuff I do that just to make sure that I'm sharp on the return.

Q. You're bound to go up to your highest ranking of 6.
ANDY MURRAY: Yeah.

Q. Do you take pleasure in that, or is it a little too far ahead of the US Open to do so?
ANDY MURRAY: No, I think it's great to get as high as that. You know, the beginning of the year a lot of people were asking me if my new setup was going to work and questioning if it was the right thing for me to do.
I think my results showed that it took a little bit of time but that it's paying off, and I'm enjoying myself much more on court. I'm much calmer, and obviously my results have got better and better as the year's gone on.
The clay court season, for me, was the best one I've had, even though it wasn't great. From my standard, on this surface, it was good, and so far it's been a strong season. Hopefully I can keep it going.

Q. To reach your first Masters Series final, what does that mean to you?
ANDY MURRAY: I said yesterday, I mean, I don't think there's a huge difference between a semifinal and a final, but to win it would be huge. You know, I've won five tournaments and couple of, you know, million dollar tournaments, but none obviously as big as a Masters Series.
So I'm going to have to play against one of the best players in the world to win it. You know, I feel like I'm playing well enough to do it.

Q. How is your energy level playing a lot matches last week and this week as well?
ANDY MURRAY: Yeah, it's tough, but Djokovic and Nadal are in the same position. You know, Nadal has played a lot of night matches, which obviously helps here because of the heat. I played most of mine pretty much in the heat of the day around midday and just afterwards.
That's been tricky, but physically I felt fine in today's match. Also, it's hot, but not too taxing because the points are relatively fast.

Q. You appeared to move pretty well on the court today. Did you feel a little more energy than yesterday?
ANDY MURRAY: No, I think yesterday the first set I wasn't moving well, but by the end of the match I started to move much better. Some days it happens. You wake up and you just don't get going, and some days you feel great.
It's about finding a way to come through the days when you're not feeling that well. When you play great it's easy to win matches, but it's hard when you play and feel like I did at the beginning of the match yesterday. The most important thing is to turn it around.

Q. How is your knee feeling?
ANDY MURRAY: Yeah, it's fine. You know, I've been making sure I got ice on it after every match. You know, it hurts sometimes after matches, and I just need to try and make sure I do enough stretching to make sure my quad is loose so it doesn't put any extra stress on the kneecap and I won't have too many problems.

Q. Very good performances. In three of the four matches though you've gone behind at the start. Is it something that's worth analysis or just something that happens?
ANDY MURRAY: No, I mean, it's the first time this year it's really sort of happened to me where I've been getting off to bad starts. Like I said, it does take, for me anyway, in these conditions, regardless if you play in them, a few days, and each day I've been playing against sort of different styles of opponents as well.
You know, you go out and play against someone like Moya playing from the back of the court and moving around to hit big forehands, and today Karlovic serving at 130 and looking to come to the net. Just takes a little bit of time to adjust to the game styles.
Once I've done that, I've actually played really well.

Q. Were you surprised that the lob was so successful?
ANDY MURRAY: Yeah. I mean, you have to hit them very well. But, you know, he does get very close to the net when he comes forward, so it's very hard to hit a passing shot to his side because he's got such long arms and he's so close to the net and cuts off the angles. Sometimes the lob is the best option.
In the past on some key points I've managed to pull it off against him, and today was the same.

Q. Did you watch him play Federer? And if so, did you develop a view of Federer and what his state is?
ANDY MURRAY: Federer is -- I mean, he's still playing fine. He's not playing as well as he was. I mean, he's been unbelievable for the last five years. He's still playing great.
But like I said, it's always going to happen. It happens in every sport. When someone sets the bar so high, guys find a way of, you know, creeping up behind you. Nadal is obviously now going to take over his No. 1. Djokovic has won against Federer quite a few times. I've beaten him a few times.
A lot of young guys that are just improving. He's still playing great, I just think tennis has got stronger.

Q. Back to the return for a second. I notice that you start pretty far back and come forward before you split. Is there thinking behind that, or is it just natural?
ANDY MURRAY: I mean, a few guys start forward and move backwards. It's not -- i don't think that's really to be advised. You get no momentum at all. I think if you do sort of move into your split step you get a little bit more explosive when you move out of it.
If you get onto the return you can get a really good hit on it without really having to do too much with the racquet. You just see it, and your momentum really gives a bit of extra pace. I've always returned like that, and it's worked well for me.

Q. Did you figure out the prize you're going to give Roger if he ask you for advise how to beat Ivo on this cort in Cincinnati if you play next year?
ANDY MURRAY: No, and I'm sure he won't come to me for advice about tennis any time soon. First time he's obviously lost to Karlovic. But, yeah, I thought Federer maybe deserved to win the match anyway.

MurrayFan1
08-03-2008, 04:18 PM
Magic my ass.

Despite Murray's returns,Ivo played and served like utter crap today.
Pathetic match.

Anyway,great tournament for Ivo,well done man and now go for it at the Olympics :yeah:

Murray will get bitchslaped tomorrow as usual.:D:D (And you can forget that fluke win last week,wont happen again.:D)

The bitterness in this post is sheer gold. :)

finishingmove
08-03-2008, 04:26 PM
Q. Did you figure out the prize you're going to give Roger if he ask you for advise how to beat Ivo on this cort in Cincinnati if you play next year?
ANDY MURRAY: No, and I'm sure he won't come to me for advice about tennis any time soon. First time he's obviously lost to Karlovic. But, yeah, I thought Federer maybe deserved to win the match anyway.


LOL

Karolina_Sprem
08-03-2008, 08:41 PM
The bitterness in this post is sheer gold. :)

R u from Berkshire???:wavey::wavey:

Blue Heart24
08-03-2008, 11:14 PM
The bitterness in this post is sheer gold. :)

Ok my prediction was wrong,he played a very good match today but the part about Ivo's performance is absolutely correct.He was awful.Simple as that