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Karlovic def. Kohlshreiber 7-6, 7-6

Pfloyd
08-01-2008, 08:58 PM
Dr. Ivo, playing good. :yeah:

Onto Murray.

In this form, the was Ivo is serving It's going to be quite hard to defeat him.

He has improved his forehand quite a bit. Also, nice passing shot on his behalf in the 2nd tie-break.

BackhandMissile
08-01-2008, 08:58 PM
Its over

TurtleTennis
08-01-2008, 08:59 PM
Poor Kohlschreiber, must be really frusturating to lose to literally only an all-serve player

oranges
08-01-2008, 08:59 PM
Ivo is on the roll :clap2:

Clydey
08-01-2008, 08:59 PM
Going to be a tough match for Murray tomorrow. I'll be nervous. It's a good job Muzza returns well.

Deathless Mortal
08-01-2008, 08:59 PM
24 aces :rocker2:
That's more than he hit yesterday in 3 sets.
Well done, first time in an AMS semifinal and congrats for career high ranking of 18 :yeah:

mdjenders
08-01-2008, 08:59 PM
karlovic serving over 70% is almost unbreakable.

dweijnen
08-01-2008, 08:59 PM
Dr Ivo. what will his ranking be now?

finishingmove
08-01-2008, 09:00 PM
ivo is clutch.

i dont know how anyone could've doubted this.

kohschreiber was actually facing a break point , would've been a laugh if he hadnt saved it.

Jaap
08-01-2008, 09:00 PM
Lucky win for the freak.

r2473
08-01-2008, 09:00 PM
Dr. Ivo, playing good. :yeah:

There are guys at my local park that play better than he does. I just hate to watch this guy.

And Agassi was right, I would fine Karlovic $100 for each ground stroke he hits if I was his coach.

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20050902&slug=tennis02

BackhandMissile
08-01-2008, 09:00 PM
The last time he played Nadal at Queens it was all tie breakers! Could he be the first person to beat Federer and Nadal in the same tournament!?

iriraz
08-01-2008, 09:00 PM
It doesn`t matter if Karlovic plays number 1 or 300 in the world he still will play tiebreakers all the way.

MacTheKnife
08-01-2008, 09:01 PM
Ivo conducting his business once again. Serve was again unbelievable. Nice win !!

TurtleTennis
08-01-2008, 09:01 PM
There are guys at my local park that play better than he does. I just hate to watch this guy.

And Agassi was right, I would fine Karlovic $100 for each ground stroke he hits if I was his coach.

Agreed

Xenosys
08-01-2008, 09:01 PM
Good win for Karlovic, should be a completely dull affair with Murray tomorrow but looking forward to it :)

Chrisilson
08-01-2008, 09:02 PM
I don't know what is more annoying about Karlovic, that he wins games by just battering aces or that he seems to find some good shots when it matters.

Its like he has to wait until the tie-break to find his form. For the first 12 games of a set he is utterly useless everywhere except his serve and then he comes up with some decent groundstrokes/passing shots.

I wish he'd do the crowd a favour and find some consistency

Voo de Mar
08-01-2008, 09:02 PM
Kohlschreiber has lost 6-7 6-7 for the first time as a professional player.
I suppose one of the most boring TMS quarterfinals ever :zzz:

Lopez
08-01-2008, 09:02 PM
The last time he played Nadal at Queens it was all tie breakers! Could he be the first person to beat Federer and Nadal in the same tournament!?

No because Nalbandian did it twice last year.

finishingmove
08-01-2008, 09:03 PM
I suppose one of the most boring TMS quarterfinals ever :zzz:

too true

green25814
08-01-2008, 09:03 PM
hopefully murray exposes him tomorrow. :p

~Maya~
08-01-2008, 09:04 PM
:rocker: I am so happy for Ivo. Great play. He is not only serve. He played some good shots. He did it when it was very important. I just don't understand why he doesn't do it more often when returning the serve. But he gained confidence and improved a lot. Great job Ivo! Keep it up!

KitinovRules
08-01-2008, 09:04 PM
Stutterer is on the roll again .
I think that with this kind of serving, he will win the tournament.

HoistDaColors
08-01-2008, 09:04 PM
so boring. I only watched b/c i wanted to see Kohli hit passing shots with his 1hbh. But it didn't happen because Ivo's volleys were just so good. One of the things P.K. likes to do is to hit the ball right at the opponent at net, but Ivo's reflex handled those balls heading straight at him effortlessly.

good effort kohls :hug: poor 2nd set tb but other wise he did what he can.

ASP0315
08-01-2008, 09:04 PM
congrats ivo on your first AMS semi final
and take out murray please.

BackhandMissile
08-01-2008, 09:06 PM
No because Nalbandian did it twice last year.

D'oh! Of course, Madrid Masters, Nadal, Djoker and Fedex.

One hell of an achievement.

TurtleTennis
08-01-2008, 09:06 PM
It's so frusturatingly unfair watching Karlovic serve, it's like serving from a friggin tree

Clydey
08-01-2008, 09:06 PM
D'oh! Of course, Madrid Masters, Nadal, Djoker and Fedex.

One hell of an achievement.

Djokovic did it last year and Roddick did it this year.

Okonsky
08-01-2008, 09:06 PM
Boooring.

Sunset of Age
08-01-2008, 09:07 PM
Well done, Dr. Ivo! :hatoff: :bounce:

WHAT. A. MONSTER. Still relying for 99% on his incredible :eek: service, but he's obviously managed to improve his game, and on a really hot run right now.

I know the majority of posters here don't like him... might well be one of the reasons I find him quite endearing :devil:.
From what I heard from friends, he's a a true Gentle Giant. :D

Will be hard for me tomorrow, as I like Muzza as well. For the sake of Beautiful Tennis I guess Muzza should come through, but I won't actually be in tears if he doesn't. ;)

Chrisilson
08-01-2008, 09:07 PM
Could he be the first person to beat Federer and Nadal in the same tournament!?

Djokovic, Nalbandian??

Karolina_Sprem
08-01-2008, 09:07 PM
The last time he played Nadal at Queens it was all tie breakers! Could he be the first person to beat Federer and Nadal in the same tournament!?

R u joking... Karlovic doesn't know how to play tennis... He can thanks his serve wins over Federer and today against Kohlschrieber... If he doesn't have such a good serve on this tournament he would already be back in Croatia waiting on the airport plane for China....:devil:

Beforehand
08-01-2008, 09:09 PM
Djokovic did it last year and Roddick did it this year.

Roddick didn't.

Lopez
08-01-2008, 09:10 PM
Clydey, Roddick didn't beat Fed and Rafa in the SAME tournament this season. Djok and Rafa yes, Fed no.

RIboy
08-01-2008, 09:12 PM
Congrats Doc....Ivo will be around 12. place on August 18- great:clap2:

Karolina_Sprem
08-01-2008, 09:14 PM
Congrats Doc....Ivo will be around 12. place on August 18- great:clap2:


This is SCARY.... Ivo AGAIN Croatian No1 male player... Fact that something is not good in croatian tennis when this happens....:devil:

tangerine_dream
08-01-2008, 09:16 PM
Won't somebody please uproot this tree? :help:

RIboy
08-01-2008, 09:16 PM
This is SCARY.... Ivo AGAIN Croatian No1 male player... Fact that something is not good in croatian tennis when this happens....:devil:

he's already CRO No. 1;)

Snoo Foo
08-01-2008, 09:19 PM
So what's the points breakdown? Under what scenario does Il Divo take over the #1 ranking? Wins the finals, wins the Olympics, the USO, Madrid, Paris, and Nadal, Nole, Ferru, Kolya, Fed, Roddick, um... Wawrinka, Blake, Gasquet all decide to take up golf?

Karolina_Sprem
08-01-2008, 09:19 PM
he's already CRO No. 1;)


Unfortunately thats true but what is more sad is that even Sprem has got better shots comparing to his game or should I say his serve..because he doesn't have a game...:devil::devil:

BackhandMissile
08-01-2008, 09:21 PM
R u joking... Karlovic doesn't know how to play tennis... He can thanks his serve wins over Federer and today against Kohlschrieber... If he doesn't have such a good serve on this tournament he would already be back in Croatia waiting on the airport plane for China...

I'm not saying he's the next Wimbledon champion. I just pointed out that Nadal couldn't break him at Queens, and Federer broke him once in 3 sets yesterday, so if he continues serving like he is, a few favourable tie breaks could give him some more upset wins.

Karolina_Sprem
08-01-2008, 09:24 PM
I'm not saying he's the next Wimbledon champion. I just pointed out that Nadal couldn't break him at Queens, and Federer broke him once in 3 sets yesterday, so if he continues serving like he is, a few favourable tie breaks could give him some more upset wins.


No please, don't say that... Please wash your mouth ....:help::help::help:

virex
08-01-2008, 09:24 PM
watch ivo lose on the 1st round of the US Open

Mannboy
08-01-2008, 09:25 PM
nice going ivo:)

cardio
08-01-2008, 09:27 PM
There are guys at my local park that play better than he does. I just hate to watch this guy.

And Agassi was right, I would fine Karlovic $100 for each ground stroke he hits if I was his coach.

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20050902&slug=tennis02

Must be some local park, where guys plays better tennis than ATP top20:retard:

Ivo played very well , his volleys are now better and better and he even wins more rallies from ground than last year . Man does what he can and works very hard to earn his position in rankings and prizemoney. I believe he earned at least 105 000 dollars from MS semi today. Against Murray it will be even harder to win than against Fed and Kohli, Muzza returns very well, but it is not entirely impossible to reach into his first ever MS final.

Karolina_Sprem
08-01-2008, 09:35 PM
There are guys at my local park that play better than he does. I just hate to watch this guy.

And Agassi was right, I would fine Karlovic $100 for each ground stroke he hits if I was his coach.

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20050902&slug=tennis02

:bigclap::bigclap:

So does Sprem as well, right? Say yes, say yes :D

Guys Karlovic CAN'T play tennis... Don't you know that by now?!:mad::mad:

ASP0315
08-01-2008, 09:37 PM
Unfortunately thats true but what is more sad is that even Sprem has got better shots comparing to his game or should I say his serve..because he doesn't have a game...:devil::devil:

sprem got better shots? :haha:
how does a hit/miss game considered better shots. ? :haha:
ivo the same kind of baseline game as sprem and as the matter of fact better serve and volleys than her. :lol:

Ivo's game is not just serve. you can call him mostly serve but to say he is only serve is idiocracy.
Ivo volley's are top notch.(even half volleys as well.) i woould say he is top 10 in volleys. forehand is top 50.
only major problem is his "non slice bh" backhand.

Blue Heart24
08-01-2008, 09:37 PM
Ivo :worship:

:woohoo:

Now take out Murray

Blue Heart24
08-01-2008, 09:39 PM
:bigclap::bigclap:

So does Sprem as well, right? Say yes, say yes :D

Guys Karlovic CAN'T play tennis... Don't you know that by now?!:mad::mad:

Can you PLEASE shut the fuck up?
You are a disgrace for all Croatians who ever visited and posted on this forum.

You know about tennis as much as I know about cricket.And thats saying something.

r2473
08-01-2008, 09:42 PM
Ivo's game is not just serve. you can call him mostly serve but to say he is only serve is idiocracy.
Ivo volley's are top notch.(even half volleys as well.) i woould say he is top 10 in volleys. forehand is top 50.
only major problem is his "non slice bh" backhand.


Ya, if he could just master that one stroke he would be a complete tennis player :rolleyes:

Clydey
08-01-2008, 09:43 PM
Clydey, Roddick didn't beat Fed and Rafa in the SAME tournament this season. Djok and Rafa yes, Fed no.

You're right. Forgot that Muzza beat Fed in Dubai.

ChinoRios4Ever
08-01-2008, 09:43 PM
I suppose one of the most boring TMS quarterfinals ever :zzz:

Same here :zzz:

Karolina_Sprem
08-01-2008, 09:43 PM
sprem got better shots? :haha:
how does a hit/miss game considered better shots. ? :haha:
ivo the same kind of baseline game as sprem and as the matter of fact better serve and volleys than her. :lol:

Ivo's game is not just serve. you can call him mostly serve but to say he is only serve is idiocracy.
Ivo volley's are top notch.(even half volleys as well.) i woould say he is top 10 in volleys. forehand is top 50.
only major problem is his "non slice bh" backhand.

Apart from his serve where we ALL came to a conclusion that his serve is REALLY good, what about rest?
Yes that mug would lose against some female players INCLUDING Sprem without serving...just hitting the ball....you know, forehand, backhand, volleys, moving on the court - left, right, up, down.... :D
So I mean game in the court not just serve...you understand what I mean? :devil::devil:

P.s. I feel naughty this evening :D

Ouragan
08-01-2008, 09:43 PM
This is SCARY.... Ivo AGAIN Croatian No1 male player... Fact that something is not good in croatian tennis when this happens....:devil:


No worries Croation tennis is doing just fine :)

Ivo#1Fan
08-01-2008, 09:44 PM
This Ivo is amazing. How soon will he take over #1?

Blue Heart24
08-01-2008, 09:46 PM
Apart from his serve where we ALL came to a conclusion that his serve is REALLY good, what about rest?
Yes that mug would lose against some female players INCLUDING Sprem without serving...just hitting the ball....you know, forehand, backhand, volleys, moving on the court - left, right, up, down.... :D
So I mean game in the court not just serve...you understand what I mean? :devil::devil:

P.s. I feel naughty this evening :D

:retard: x 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000.

Jelena
08-01-2008, 09:48 PM
Guys Karlovic CAN'T play tennis...
Four years ago, when I met Karlovic at a tournament and watched him in practice, I thought the same. He doesn't have anything than serve. But already in the last year or two years ago, when I saw a match of him on tv, I thought he really improved his baseline-game. He still isn't the best, he will never have one of the nicest and most elegant games to watch, but he improved.

Karolina_Sprem
08-01-2008, 09:48 PM
Can you PLEASE shut the fuck up?
You are a disgrace for all Croatians who ever visited and posted on this forum.

You know about tennis as much as I know about cricket.And thats saying something.

First of all I won't shut up...
Second, why should I support some player who comes from my country? Especially the one who doesn't know how to play tennis...
And thirdly... don't care if you know s'thing about cricket or not BUT I do know enough about tennis to consider myself as a worthy member of this forum...

P.s. :nerner:

Horatio Caine
08-01-2008, 09:49 PM
I don't know what is more annoying about Karlovic, that he wins games by just battering aces or that he seems to find some good shots when it matters.

Its like he has to wait until the tie-break to find his form. For the first 12 games of a set he is utterly useless everywhere except his serve and then he comes up with some decent groundstrokes/passing shots.

I wish he'd do the crowd a favour and find some consistency

:lol: Congrats to Ivo, and tomorrow he has what is probably his best shot to beat Murray, even if the match-up isn't great for him.

sheeter
08-01-2008, 09:49 PM
Karlovic has improved alot. He neve ever is going to be a great mover, but his volleys are excellent, and his forehand is good. His backhand slice also is pretty good and his topspin backhand, well never a huge weapon, isn't anywhere near as bad as people say it is. I'm always impressed at how he can pick up low volleys at his height.

Jadranka
08-01-2008, 09:50 PM
I'm so happy :D

r2473
08-01-2008, 09:52 PM
I do know enough about tennis to consider myself as a worthy member of this forum...

you have my sympathies.

Karolina_Sprem
08-01-2008, 09:52 PM
:retard: x 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000.

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Karolina_Sprem
08-01-2008, 09:53 PM
you have my sympathies.

Cheers dude ;)

cardio
08-01-2008, 09:54 PM
I love how morons and haters appear as soon as someone plays really well and beats their favorite players:devil:.
Fact is, better player on a given day always wins and today Ivo was better than Kohli, yesterday he was better than Fed.

Jadranka
08-01-2008, 09:55 PM
First of all I won't shut up...
Second, why should I support some player who comes from my country? Especially the one who doesn't know how to play tennis...
And thirdly... don't care if you know s'thing about cricket or not BUT I do know enough about tennis to consider myself as a worthy member of this forum...

P.s. :nerner:

Look. Ivanisevic wasn't THE great player, so what? He had/has an amazing serve and look what he has now ;) titles and one slam ;)

Ajmo, Karlo!! :yeah:

RIboy
08-01-2008, 09:56 PM
What's Karolina SPERM fan doing here?:retard:

ASP0315
08-01-2008, 09:57 PM
:retard: x 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000.

well said
ignore that idiot.

he must user "guybrush" using a different user name i suppose.

Sunset of Age
08-01-2008, 10:00 PM
I love how morons and haters appear as soon as someone plays really well and beats their favorite players:devil:.

It's in fact a sign of that player doing really, really well. Wait till Dr. Ivo get his own 'roasting'-thread, at that moment, you know for sure that he's made the top 3. :angel:

Fact is, better player on a given day always wins and today Ivo was better than Kohli, yesterday he was better than Fed.

Alas, that is not true. I give Karlovic all the credits he deserves, but if you win a match while your opponent has scored more points, saw no breaks against him and actually only lost TWO POINTS in the entire third set, you can barely claim being the better player.

As in most sports, LUCK is an important factor as well, especially in TBs. ;)

Blue Heart24
08-01-2008, 10:01 PM
Second, why should I support some player who comes from my country?

No one said you need to support him.
Just it would be great if you could stop talking such absolute idiotic nonsense.

Especially the one who doesn't know how to play tennis...

Now this is what I'm talking about.:retard:
See above.

I do know enough about tennis to consider myself as a worthy member of this forum...


:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha: :haha: :haha::haha::haha:

Are you even aware of all that bullshit you wrote in this thread?
Go back to your closet you little clown.

Karolina_Sprem
08-01-2008, 10:03 PM
I love how morons and haters appear as soon as someone plays really well and beats their favorite players:devil:.
Fact is, better player on a given day always wins and today Ivo was better than Kohli, yesterday he was better than Fed.

I'll try to ignore those words "morons and haters"... I don't support neither Karlovic or Kohlschreiber so didn't find myself in that category "of their fav players"...

I think ppl are allowed to tell their opinion no matter if you or someone else agree or disagree.

It's a free world, innit, or it should be... Democracy is a very complex term especially for me who comes from the ex communist regime but I know something about that.... :D

Blue Heart24
08-01-2008, 10:03 PM
Karlovic has improved alot. He neve ever is going to be a great mover, but his volleys are excellent, and his forehand is good. His backhand slice also is pretty good and his topspin backhand, well never a huge weapon, isn't anywhere near as bad as people say it is. I'm always impressed at how he can pick up low volleys at his height.

This is called "making sense".
Great post and I completely agree.

Karolina_Sprem
08-01-2008, 10:05 PM
Look. Ivanisevic wasn't THE great player, so what? He had/has an amazing serve and look what he has now ;) titles and one slam ;)

Ajmo, Karlo!! :yeah:

I do agree with that but Goran had better game from the court and better volleys...

Karolina_Sprem
08-01-2008, 10:07 PM
well said
ignore that idiot.

he must user "guybrush" using a different user name i suppose.

there we go.... another one...:rolleyes:

Karolina_Sprem
08-01-2008, 10:08 PM
What's Karolina SPERM fan doing here?:retard:

If you like sperm not Sprem is your problem mate... Hey its a free world as I said :p

Blue Heart24
08-01-2008, 10:09 PM
I love how morons and haters appear as soon as someone plays really well and beats their favorite players:devil:. Fact is, better player on a given day always wins and today Ivo was better than Kohli, yesterday he was better than Fed.

Very true.

What Karolina SPERM fan doing here?:retard:

He belongs to WTAworld.com
And we could already see why in his first few posts.

well said
ignore that idiot.

he must user "guybrush" using a different user name i suppose.

I remember that guy,he was mad because Ivo didnt play DC in 2006.:lol:

ASP0315
08-01-2008, 10:10 PM
Very true.



He belongs to WTAworld.com
And we could already see why in his first few posts.



I remember that guy,he was mad because Ivo didnt play DC in 2006.:lol:

so true.

Jadranka
08-01-2008, 10:12 PM
Btw, where is RaVeR?! :rolleyes:

jonny84
08-01-2008, 10:15 PM
Good win for the tie-break lover. Think Murray will be in his first AMS final tomororow!

cardio
08-01-2008, 10:16 PM
Alas, that is not true. I give Karlovic all the credits he deserves, but if you win a match while your opponent has scored more points, saw no breaks against him and actually only lost TWO POINTS in the entire third set, you can barely claim being the better player.

As in most sports, LUCK is an important factor as well, especially in TBs. ;)

I disagree. Fed played really well in 3rd set, but he lost most important points in breaker, he gave Karlo minibreak in breaker( it wasnt exactly smart thing to do) and he lost matchpoint on Karlos 2nd serve. You can say this netcord was bad luck, but he shouldnt play risky return like this on matchpoint. He wasnt good enough to win , perhaps he underestimated Ivo. Fed is used to win breakers even when he loses point or two on his serve. You just cant do it against red hot Karlo, he`ll kill you if you give him a slightest chance.

Karolina_Sprem
08-01-2008, 10:23 PM
He belongs to WTAworld.com
And we could already see why in his first few posts.

I don't need a reason to hide myself... You can even see my pic so if you see me on the street somewhere in Croatia plz don't be afraid to say "hello" :D

finishingmove
08-01-2008, 10:25 PM
uh oh , croatrolls invasion.

Sunset of Age
08-01-2008, 10:30 PM
I disagree. Fed played really well in 3rd set, but he lost most important points in breaker, he gave Karlo minibreak in breaker( it wasnt exactly smart thing to do) and he lost matchpoint on Karlos 2nd serve. You can say this netcord was bad luck, but he shouldnt play risky return like this on matchpoint. He wasnt good enough to win , perhaps he underestimated Ivo. Fed is used to win breakers even when he loses point or two on his serve. You just cant do it against red hot Karlo, he`ll kill you if you give him a slightest chance.

Bit off-topic, sorry folks.
I respect your opinion, even if I disagree. But I don't think Fed underestimated Ivo, that I'm pretty sure of. The two have had very, very close matches before, and it was only a matter of time that one day Fed would be the one to draw the Bad Ticket...

Anyway, I'm quite happy to see Doc Frankenstein doing so well, and that's all that counts.

Okay, now back to the enjoyment of Croatrolls. I just pulled out a beer and popcorn. :lol:

Blue Heart24
08-01-2008, 10:31 PM
uh oh , croatrolls invasion.

Says a Noletard.:rolls::rolls::rolls::lol:

BodyServe
08-01-2008, 10:31 PM
I disagree. Fed played really well in 3rd set, but he lost most important points in breaker, he gave Karlo minibreak in breaker( it wasnt exactly smart thing to do) and he lost matchpoint on Karlos 2nd serve. You can say this netcord was bad luck, but he shouldnt play risky return like this on matchpoint. He wasnt good enough to win , perhaps he underestimated Ivo. Fed is used to win breakers even when he loses point or two on his serve. You just cant do it against red hot Karlo, he`ll kill you if you give him a slightest chance.

What a kick that was on match point, it was a very short serve and bounced over Federer shoulders, i don't think it was a risky return.

RafaTheBest
08-01-2008, 10:44 PM
Alas, that is not true. I give Karlovic all the credits he deserves, but if you win a match while your opponent has scored more points, saw no breaks against him and actually only lost TWO POINTS in the entire third set, you can barely claim being the better player.

As in most sports, LUCK is an important factor as well, especially in TBs. ;)

I disagree that Fed was the better player in that match because of his dominance on serve in the 3rd set. I actually think that Ivo pretty much let Fed win his service games to save energy for the TB. That was actually a great tactic by Ivo that paid off.

Sunset of Age
08-01-2008, 10:46 PM
I disagree that Fed was the better player in that match because of his dominance on serve in the 3rd set. I actually think that Ivo pretty much let Fed win his service games to save energy for the TB. That was actually a great tactic by Ivo that paid off.

I'm sorry, but your siggie alone makes impossible for me to take you seriously. :cool:

RafaTheBest
08-01-2008, 11:04 PM
I'm sorry, but your siggie alone makes impossible for me to take you seriously. :cool:

Translation: You made a good point so I will deflect the point to your sig. :rolleyes:

I think you are taking my sig too seriously!

dylan24
08-01-2008, 11:05 PM
ivo should be banned from tennis.

RafaTheBest
08-01-2008, 11:07 PM
ivo should be banned from tennis.

...said the distraught fed fan.

Sunset of Age
08-01-2008, 11:09 PM
Translation: You made a good point so I will deflect the point to your sig. :rolleyes:

I think you are taking my sig too seriously!

Okay, there, might well be. No offense intended. :hug:
Seriously, that Spartan :bs: really puts me off, as I think comparing Rafa to a completely :retard: movie is an insult to a lovely player with such a kind and humble personality...

I AM too serious, that's true. :angel:

finishingmove
08-01-2008, 11:13 PM
completely :retard: movie

how dare you.

RafaTheBest
08-01-2008, 11:13 PM
Okay, there, might well be. No offense intended. :hug:
Seriously, that Spartan :bs: really puts me off, as I think comparing Rafa to a completely :retard: movie is an insult to a lovely player with such a kind and humble personality...

I AM too serious, that's true. :angel:

It's all in good fun. 300 was just a movie and tennis is just a game. Nothing wrong with having a little fun with it! I'm sure Rafa would just chuckle if he saw all the Spartan posts about him. :)

Spes
08-01-2008, 11:39 PM
I hope The Doctor rips Murray a new one.

Good playing today. Especially those great forehands in the second set TB. So clutch. :worship:

ReturnWinner
08-02-2008, 12:14 AM
Well done ivo, win the tournament. he is not the fav but it'd not surpise anybody if he does,and he has won the five tiebreaks played in this tournament.

David Kenzie
08-02-2008, 12:18 AM
how dare you.
Off topic, but that movie sucked. How someone can find anything good in it baffles me. I had to fast forward it, it was so bad.

Hank777
08-02-2008, 12:25 AM
I hardly see Karlovic play, but is he constantly slicing his backhand like Rusedski did back in the day?

Also, he's volleys don't look all that shabby from what I have seen, all service... yep, still amazing to see how far that can get ya...

Some people wrote he was out of form, but he seems to be regaining it in a hurry, then again, it's all about a good serve rhythm then I suppose :)

Should be interesting against Murray.

JolánGagó
08-02-2008, 02:10 AM
Infinitely boring match, at a certain point I just gave up on the TV and plug in the laptop to read a bit of MTF, such was the tedium overcoming me. Watching that guy Karlovic playing is beyond my capabilities, what an eyesore. Sad that just for being 2m tall and serving as if from a palm tree someone can play a MS SF.

shotgun
08-02-2008, 03:00 AM
Kohli :sad:

What a wasted chance to get to a TMS semi, he won't get one like that again so soon.

Hope Karlovic makes the final.

Henry Chinaski
08-02-2008, 05:14 AM
did any of the "Ivo is all serve" gimps even watch the match?

and i had hard cash on the gimp with his proud protruding german chin

Benny_Maths
08-02-2008, 05:41 AM
TBH I hope Karlovic wins against Murray because the latter is just going to be mauled in the final by Joker/Rafa. At least with Karlovic in the final, the result won't be so predictable.

Lopez
08-02-2008, 05:43 AM
I'm a bit annoyed about these "Ivo is all serve" -comments... What would Federer or Nadal be without their forehands? Gasquet without his backhand? Seriously you can't take aspects out of someone's game away and proclaim the players suck without them. Ivo has always practiced and also nowadays practices his serve for hours, it's not good just because he's tall, it's good because he works on it so much. Give the guy some credit, geez.

Besides, if Ivo wasn't frigging about 207cm tall, he might have a worse serve but also better groundstrokes.

Clydey
08-02-2008, 05:45 AM
TBH I hope Karlovic wins against Murray because the latter is just going to be mauled in the final by Joker/Rafa. At least with Karlovic in the final, the result won't be so predictable.

Murray beat Joker in straight sets last week, genius.

Benny_Maths
08-02-2008, 05:55 AM
Murray beat Joker in straight sets last week, genius.

Gonzo beat Fed at the Masters Cup least year. Every pigeon has their day. It doesn't mean anything, idiot.

blank_frackis
08-02-2008, 05:58 AM
I'm a bit annoyed about these "Ivo is all serve" -comments... What would Federer or Nadal be without their forehands? Gasquet without his backhand? Seriously you can't take aspects out of someone's game away and proclaim the players suck without them. Ivo has always practiced and also nowadays practices his serve for hours, it's not good just because he's tall, it's good because he works on it so much. Give the guy some credit, geez.

Besides, if Ivo wasn't frigging about 207cm tall, he might have a worse serve but also better groundstrokes.

He doesn't suck and a good serve is just as effective a weapon (arguably more so) as other shots. However, the reason I don't like Karlovic to do well is that I gain little enjoyment from watching a great serve. Like most tennis fans I love rallies and players digging out exceptional shots, so someone perfecting a shot which limits the amount of rallies you see in a match isn't something I want to support.

He might be a great guy and you can't fault him for playing to his strengths, but it's still not very entertaining to watch him serve aces/unreturnable serves over and over and then fail to break even very average players when he returns. Even some sort of obsessed purist who adores big serves would find this boring after a while.

Henry Chinaski
08-02-2008, 06:03 AM
did any of the "Ivo is all serve" gimps even watch the match?

and i had hard cash on the gimp with his proud protruding german chin

damn, I love me. doubt there has ever been a better description of a german in the history of descriptions of germans.

Lopez
08-02-2008, 06:04 AM
Well, the serve is the single most difficult shot in tennis and the only one you can control perfectly. It's no surprise that the best servers are usually the best athletes as well. After you've seen an ace, you've seen a good athletic performance.

It's a shame if you can't appreciate it. Fortunately I have played tennis long and seriously enough to be able to enjoy Karlovic's game. Do you play tennis / Have you played on a competitive level?

JolánGagó
08-02-2008, 09:38 AM
Well, the serve is the single most difficult shot in tennis and the only one you can control perfectly. It's no surprise that the best servers are usually the best athletes as well. After you've seen an ace, you've seen a good athletic performance.

It's a shame if you can't appreciate it. Fortunately I have played tennis long and seriously enough to be able to enjoy Karlovic's game. Do you play tennis / Have you played on a competitive level?

I prefer watching Dementieva, thanx :rolleyes:

Ilovetheblues_86
08-02-2008, 09:42 AM
Well, the serve is the single most difficult shot in tennis and the only one you can control perfectly. It's no surprise that the best servers are usually the best athletes as well. After you've seen an ace, you've seen a good athletic performance.

It's a shame if you can't appreciate it. Fortunately I have played tennis long and seriously enough to be able to enjoy Karlovic's game. Do you play tennis / Have you played on a competitive level?

Class post.

maconick
08-02-2008, 10:06 AM
Tennis is Dead!

CrossCourt13
08-02-2008, 10:07 AM
It's not Karlovic fault he grew this tall and you can't expect him to move like Rochus.
Somebody said it well yesterday, his height is helping him with his serve but is not helping him with any other aspect of his game.
What should he do? Turn into a counterpuncher? The guy is doing his best, he is trying really hard and you can see it clearly and if you are a sports fan you must at least appreciate that.

groundstroke
08-02-2008, 10:08 AM
Oh dear me.. someone please take out Karlovic..

CrossCourt13
08-02-2008, 10:09 AM
And I would say he is one of the mentally strongest on the tour.

enzogiovanni
08-02-2008, 11:17 AM
Hehe,
It is beautiful to hear from the haters...

IMHO, Karlovic was unfortunate to grow so tall... a height of 198-200 cm would have been perfect for him.

For the idiots who think Karlovic is a serving monster ONLY because he is 208 cm tall: compare him to other 200+ cm tall guys and if you have anything left in your brain you will place Dr. Ivo in a superior category in serving.
Take a look at his hand-wrist speed, his percentages and most importantly his precision.

being 208 cm tall gives you better angles on serve AND NOTHING MORE. The rest is talent and practice.

To come back to my inital statement: at height of 198-200 cm Karlovic's serve would still be by far the best on the tour but his movement and endurance would improve dramatically just for the fact that he would weight about 90-95 kg instead of 104 kg.

take 10 kg off your body weight and see the difference in movement and endurance. Take off 10 cm of your height and see the difference in balance and coordination.


That being said: the haters will always hate (but no one gives a flying fu.ck about them anyway) and the fans will cheer, so:


GO Dr. IVO!, Bring us the first MS Title!



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Acer
08-02-2008, 11:38 AM
Yuck

groundstroke
08-02-2008, 11:49 AM
Either way, Murray or Karlovic will be in their first ever MS Final. Disgraceful.

Deathless Mortal
08-02-2008, 12:05 PM
And I would say he is one of the mentally strongest on the tour.

I am a fan of Karlovic, but not only that he isn't mentally the strongest on the tour but you can hardly even call him mentally strong. Yes, in this tournament he showed some signs of it but remember his match against Falla in Roland Garros this year for example. Or remember any of his 5sets matches. I think his head, at least until now, was his biggest problem.

Voo de Mar
08-02-2008, 12:28 PM
I am a fan of Karlovic, but not only that he isn't mentally the strongest on the tour but you can hardly even call him mentally strong. Yes, in this tournament he showed some signs of it but remember his match against Falla in Roland Garros this year for example. Or remember any of his 5sets matches. I think his head, at least until now, was his biggest problem.

I think Ivo has two faces: one is an ATP Tour-face - the guy is very strong mentally, the other is a Grand Slam face - a face of a big choker :cool: :o

Deathless Mortal
08-02-2008, 12:37 PM
I think Ivo has two faces: one is an ATP Tour-face - the guy is very strong mentally, the other is a Grand Slam face - a face of a big choker :cool: :o

He often chokes in ATP tournaments too. He was never able to hit a good first serve against Federer in crucial moments (TBs), it was always obvious he's going to lose those TBs. And just look at the last two tournaments he played. First he couldn't beat Hanescu after having 3 MPs and then he choked a set lead against mighty Maximo Gonzalez.

Karolina_Sprem
08-02-2008, 12:39 PM
How pathetic is this...Croatian National TV - HRT won't show Karolovic's match tonight while Serbian National TV-RTS will....
Hmmm... Mico Dusanovic really don't like Karlovic :lol: :D

Voo de Mar
08-02-2008, 12:52 PM
He often chokes in ATP tournaments too. He was never able to hit a good first serve against Federer in crucial moments (TBs), it was always obvious he's going to lose those TBs. And just look at the last two tournaments he played. First he couldn't beat Hanescu after having 3 MPs and then he choked a set lead against mighty Maximo Gonzalez.

Karlovic has this style of game that he is forced to play tight matches with amazing frequency so he loses often tight matches but two things are important for his mental department:
- he has won the most matches in the final set tie-break (Moya beside Ivo is the only guy who has won more than 30 those matches in history)
- from all active players only Ferrero has won more matches after saving MP in ATP tournaments than Ivo, the Croat doesn't lose often reversaly, his MP stats is brilliant: 13-3 :yeah:

Deathless Mortal
08-02-2008, 01:32 PM
Karlovic has this style of game that he is forced to play tight matches with amazing frequency so he loses often tight matches but two things are important for his mental department:
- he has won the most matches in the final set tie-break (Moya beside Ivo is the only guy who has won more than 30 those matches in history)
- from all active players only Ferrero has won more matches after saving MP in ATP tournaments than Ivo, the Croat doesn't lose often reversaly, his MP stats is brilliant: 13-3 :yeah:

Yes that's true. Of course he has won a lot of final set TB matches when he played a lot of them. The other stat is very good indeed. :cool: