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Cincy QF: [8] Murray def. Moya 2-6, 6-3, 6-1

MIMIC
08-01-2008, 06:50 PM
Murray was very droopy and listless in the first set. He turned it around after saving break points early in the 2nd set.

finishingmove
08-01-2008, 06:51 PM
is andy murray the new rafael nadal...?

Sofonda Cox
08-01-2008, 06:52 PM
is andy murray the new rafael nadal...?

Not unless he invests in $500,000 worth of plastic surgery

Clydey
08-01-2008, 06:53 PM
Really poor first set and a bit from Andy. Thought he was injured after they mentioned he had treatement on the arm before the match. Moya was on fire, though. Once Andy raised his level, Moya's dropped. Great last set and a half from Andy, though. He has a good winning mentality. Most other players would have lot today.

Can't say enough about Moya's performance at the start.

adee-gee
08-01-2008, 06:53 PM
Brilliant comeback from Muzza, looked down and out at 2-6 *0-2 15-40. Bad body language and seemed to suggest his knee was bothering him.

But excellent after that, absolutely destroyed Moya :yeah:

MacTheKnife
08-01-2008, 06:54 PM
Think Carlos' gas tank finally hit E. Murray woke up and got steady and that was pretty much it. Good showing from Moya this week though !!!

Sunset of Age
08-01-2008, 06:55 PM
WOW, Muzza!!! :eek: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

In the first set it looked like a very easy victory for Moya. Andy just wasn't at all there. But wow, this lad has some fighting spirit in him, and he managed to completely turn around the match at the start of the second set. Suddenly everything seemed to be working, great movement, fantastic shotmaking. Yep, this fellow has what it takes to become a biggie.

Gasquet should take a page out of his book. Or rather a complete chapter - 'Keep On Fighting'. :yeah:

EDIT: kudos to 'Oldie' Moya for making such an excellent run at this tournament. :hug:

Okonsky
08-01-2008, 06:55 PM
In great form...

Herdwick
08-01-2008, 06:55 PM
Superb start from Moya.

Murray isn't quite as good yet as Sky thinks but he's still playing far the best I've seen from him.

JolánGagó
08-01-2008, 06:55 PM
The last set was painful to watch, Moya was dragging himself around court, all fh to the net. Very understandable considering his two epic yesterday wins. Great tourny for Charly, showing the world the true legend he is.

Congrats to Murray, this guy apparently has some future ahead of him.

chris whiteside
08-01-2008, 06:57 PM
Congrats on your first Masters semi, Andy but I worry about his inconsistency. Moya had a good first set and a bit but Andy was horrible.

However, I can't see him winning aMasters titlle or going to the last few days of a Slam unless there is a serious improvement to his serve.

But I do love his mental attitude.

Clydey
08-01-2008, 06:59 PM
Congrats on your first Masters semi, Andy but I worry about his inconsistency. Moya had a good first set and a bit but Andy was horrible.

However, I can't see him winning aMasters titlle or going to the last few days of a Slam unless there is a serious improvement to his serve.

But I do love his mental attitude.

This is his 5th Master's semi-final.

octatennis
08-01-2008, 06:59 PM
well done carlitos.

Pfloyd
08-01-2008, 07:03 PM
Moya :sad:

On the other hand, very nice passing shots from Murray, nice to see. :yeah:

chris whiteside
08-01-2008, 07:06 PM
This is his 5th Master's semi-final.

Sorry, I just read on BBC Five Live Text that he hadn't gone past the quarters in four attempts til now. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised they've got things wrong again.

Ouragan
08-01-2008, 07:07 PM
Definitely top 5 quality, if not more

TheBoiledEgg
08-01-2008, 07:09 PM
WTF Carlos :( :( wasnt the same player after missing 2 bps for a chance to go *3-0 in 2nd :help:

Clydey
08-01-2008, 07:09 PM
Definitely top 5 quality, if not more

If he wins tomorrow, he goes to 6th. 4th looks likely by the end of the year.

fast_clay
08-01-2008, 07:09 PM
is andy murray the new rafael nadal...?

Yes.










... and so, he will be known as: Andy 'The muscle' Murray...

note: (lower case m)

Xenosys
08-01-2008, 07:10 PM
Superb fightback from Murray over an opponent he was expected to beat. In saying that, Moya played really well for a set and a bit before dropping off.

I'm quite confident Muzza is now finding the consistency needed to really challenge for big titles, roll on the SF.

decrepitude
08-01-2008, 07:13 PM
My heart sank to my boots when I saw this match was first on. Andy just doesn't do mornings, or even early afternoons!

Horrendous first set and most of 3 games, then he woke up and a magnificent fightback. Well done!

finishingmove
08-01-2008, 07:14 PM
(lower case m)

:lol:

Corey Feldman
08-01-2008, 07:29 PM
keep going son

tennis is not totally dead

Andi-M
08-01-2008, 07:37 PM
Tennis can be a game of 2 halves too it seems. :p

:drool: Carlos was playing as hott as he is at the beginning. I wasnt worried though I always knew Murray would come back to me he exudes a quiet confidence I feel assured he will win every match he plays at the moment, very impressed. I mean 6 months ago Muzzah would have bitched, whined and complained himself to a 6/2 6/2 defeat but his maturity is really showing through.

Good lck in the semis Muzah :kiss:

LinkMage
08-01-2008, 07:37 PM
Nice collapse from Moya.

RogandyFan
08-01-2008, 07:44 PM
Really poor first set and a bit from Andy. Thought he was injured after they mentioned he had treatement on the arm before the match. Moya was on fire, though. Once Andy raised his level, Moya's dropped. Great last set and a half from Andy, though. He has a good winning mentality. Most other players would have lot today.

Can't say enough about Moya's performance at the start.

Andy has a lot of experience coming back. I didn't like the injury mind games he plays at all. I always wonder why he can't come out sharp more often. He cannot hope to come back like this against players like Nole or Rafa or even Gasquet (Gasquet plays great when he is leading). btw, that forehand winner while backing up at 15-40 0-2 certainly looks Nadal like :). all Andy needs now is a more consistent serve. That forehand is looking better and better.

vincayou
08-01-2008, 07:46 PM
Time for Murray for his first final in masters series now. And maybe more.

Clydey
08-01-2008, 07:48 PM
Andy has a lot of experience coming back. I didn't like the injury mind games he plays at all. I always wonder why he can't come out sharp more often. He cannot hope to come back like this against players like Nole or Rafa or even Gasquet (Gasquet plays great when he is leading). btw, that forehand winner while backing up at 15-40 0-2 certainly looks Nadal like :). all Andy needs now is a more consistent serve. That forehand is looking better and better.

Early starts have always been a problem for Murray. Morning/early afternoon just seems to be a bad time for him. No idea why. It's been an ongoing thing. He woke up in the end, though.

What's most encouraging is that his second serve has improved (Moya was on fire today in returns, so I wouldn't read too much into that), so he doesn't have to rely on his first serve as much. He's 6 foot 3, so he shouldn't be struggling to get it in the box. Hopefully that will get better in time, too. Another thing is that he tends to get the first serve in when he serves and volleys, with his weight going forward.

scoobs
08-01-2008, 07:50 PM
Weird how Moya collapsed like that.

A number of factors seemed to be in play that exaggerated the way the match swung so dramatically - Murray was mentally still not with it until he hit some big shots and got going to save bps to avoid the double break in the second. Moya, to his credit, was wiping the floor with Andy. Andy was feeding him a lot of shots Carlos could attack and he did so with great success. Once Andy did wake up and get the returns going more aggressively, up the pace on his shots a bit, take Carlos's time away, Carlos came massively unstuck - possibly fatigue starting to weigh in also with the brutal conditions again.

After that it was a Murray procession, barely hampered by Moya at all, who seemed to lose all sense of strategy he had used so well in the first set and instead it was Andy with Moya on the end of a piece of string.

I don't like when Murray has those kinds of starts - it's something he needs to work harder on. If I were an opponent of his I'd be licking my lips if I saw we'd been given an 11 or 12 o'clock start time and he can't afford to give the opposition help like that at this level - it just makes your own life more difficult.

Good tournament from Moya though - just what he needed after a fairly barren season so far.

Xenosys
08-01-2008, 07:56 PM
Weird how Moya collapsed like that ... blah blah blah

Scoobs 4 Mod! ...



oh wait.


Early starts have always been a problem for Murray. Morning/early afternoon just seems to be a bad time for him. No idea why. It's been an ongoing thing. He woke up in the end, though.

What's most encouraging is that his second serve has improved (Moya was on fire today in returns, so I wouldn't read too much into that), so he doesn't have to rely on his first serve as much. He's 6 foot 3, so he shouldn't be struggling to get it in the box. Hopefully that will get better in time, too. Another thing is that he tends to get the first serve in when he serves and volleys, with his weight going forward.

I didn't see this match unfortunaetly Clydey but I'm hoping to grab into when it's upped as a torrent file at some point. Looking forward to it :), at least then I'll be able to give a proper opinion on it all.

green25814
08-01-2008, 08:02 PM
YES! MUZZA! :devil:

Carlos :sad:

i missed the match, was it a high quality affair, and did murray go into attacking mode for the second half?

dweijnen
08-01-2008, 08:04 PM
Muzza for the title?

freeandlonely
08-01-2008, 09:02 PM
Anyway, 2 consecutive AMS semi? Congrats.
Hope he does well in semi, from the very start.

decrepitude
08-01-2008, 09:25 PM
I didn't like the injury mind games he plays at all.

What "injury mind games"? It was one of the commentators - Doug Adler I think - who mentioned he had seen Andy having treatment on his forearm before the match.

ChinoRios4Ever
08-01-2008, 09:44 PM
Moya showed signs of life this week :D

good one Muzza :yeah:

rocketassist
08-01-2008, 09:52 PM
A win's a win and Moya was apparently playing lights out tennis like against the PMK/Andreev. Karlovic and Fakervic perhaps in the way of Muzza's glory bid, come on man, time to bring home that first pot of Masters gold.

Mashachosen1
08-01-2008, 10:13 PM
Carlos :sobbing:

maqk
08-01-2008, 10:32 PM
good week for Moya - hope the coming ones are even better :yeah:

RogandyFan
08-01-2008, 11:55 PM
What "injury mind games"? It was one of the commentators - Doug Adler I think - who mentioned he had seen Andy having treatment on his forearm before the match.

you mean the way he looks at his knees or thumbs (against Gulbis at Queens) when he was down in score? He certainly does not abuse injury time-outs or anything. but when he doesn't play well he usually look concerned about some sort of injury. Whether this is intentional or just an on court tick I can't tell. I hope it is unintentional.

Clydey
08-02-2008, 12:04 AM
you mean the way he looks at his knees or thumbs (against Gulbis at Queens) when he was down in score? He certainly does not abuse injury time-outs or anything. but when he doesn't play well he usually look concerned about some sort of injury. Whether this is intentional or just an on court tick I can't tell. I hope it is unintentional.

The thumb injury at Queens? He had to pull out of the next round because of it. It wasn't an act. He was supposed to face Roddick in the quarters, but the thumb injury forced him to pull out.

Smoke944
08-02-2008, 12:11 AM
Rest up Lord Carlos :)

Bernard Black
08-02-2008, 12:12 AM
Murray = awesome at the mo

Come on lad, bring home the title

leng jai
08-02-2008, 01:29 AM
Lucky Mugray, feeble Carlos needed a walking stick out there.

NinaNina19
08-02-2008, 05:34 AM
1st set :retard: Andy, 2nd and 3rd :hearts: Andy.

sawan66278
08-02-2008, 08:42 AM
Clutch play from Andy...saving those two break points in the second. BUT the tourney officials should be ASHAMED of themselves, making Carlos play the first match of the day, after two matches the day before.

Can you imagine them doing this to Andre Agassi back in the day?:rolleyes:

groundstroke
08-02-2008, 10:12 AM
Murray has to face Karlovic next. :lol:

Kore
08-02-2008, 10:24 AM
Well done to Murray. He's playing well at the moment however i think Karlovic is playing well also, and Karlovic will beat Andy in the Semis.

Hope not though..

Mechlan
08-02-2008, 10:26 AM
Muzza! So happy he's finally got a little confidence. Hope he continues playing well and most importantly plays aggressive.

Guigr
08-02-2008, 12:42 PM
From what I saw, Murray should really contend for the US Open title. He'll sure be top 5 soon.