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Vote -- Will Federer defend US Open title this year?

Athletics1982
08-01-2008, 04:42 AM
Before Canada series, people always said Federer and Djokovic is always the favorite (not for Nadal), then after Federer's performance in Canada and Cincy, do you believe that he will get US Open title this year? Let's discuss it and vote now !! Vote will be closed in 8/10.

jenanun
08-01-2008, 04:42 AM
no

prima donna
08-01-2008, 04:45 AM
Yes.

rofe
08-01-2008, 04:47 AM
Over 5 sets, he does have a chance but he has been crumbling on the big points so I think it is a 50/50 chance.

Xristos
08-01-2008, 05:03 AM
Simple answer is no.

FedFan_2007
08-01-2008, 05:06 AM
No.

rafa_maniac
08-01-2008, 05:06 AM
More to the point, will Federer defend Basel this year?

Knightmace
08-01-2008, 06:44 AM
yes

davis
08-01-2008, 07:31 AM
Maybe, if he doesn't get far in Beijing and has time to recuperate from flying back and forth (but in that case his psyche might be completely shattered...).

sinaas3
08-01-2008, 07:32 AM
No way.

Beforehand
08-01-2008, 07:50 AM
Yes.

Just because I know you're the type to be semantic, will he defend it successfully? :p

Sebby
08-01-2008, 08:14 AM
You CANNOT be serious.

No.

Damn
08-01-2008, 11:45 AM
No.

But I think that the final will be Nadal vs Federer if both are OK (without injuries, fatigue or whatever)

Mateya
08-01-2008, 12:53 PM
NO.

I expect a QF, SF at best. And I wouldn't be surprised if he looses even earlier. :tape:
I know we have no draw to look at, but just look at the players he has been losing to on hard courts. Every top 50 (maybe even top100) player is a danger to him nowadays.

leng jai
08-01-2008, 12:54 PM
Federer doesn't even deserve direct entry, if the USTA were serious they'd force him to go through qualifying.

SheepleBuster
08-01-2008, 12:55 PM
This is a stupid question. Federer does not have the confidence to win the U.S. Open. He shouldn't have won it last year had it not been for Djokovic's Gigantic choke. Federer will lose probably in the semis, and then will say that Masters Cup is the most important tournament and goal for him. Ladies and Gentleman. I am afraid Federer's chances of winning a title (and that means any title including challengers) is diminishing by the day.

Pedigree
08-01-2008, 01:00 PM
Probably not. Nah, he won't...

JolánGagó
08-01-2008, 01:02 PM
No.

I think he won't reach even QF, he'll lose to Volandri in last16.

SheepleBuster
08-01-2008, 01:16 PM
I think depending on the draw he could reach the semis. But Roddick, Murray, even Ginepri should fancy their chances to beat this guy. I mean Ginepri can't win matches but served for one against Roger. So Roger should be quite happy that he reached the 3rd round instead of being sad that he lost to Karlovic. Add to the list Simon, Fish, Karlovic, and maybe even Davydenko. I think Semis is the best he can do. As soon as Federer started going on these trips with Sampras I knew his game would fall but I wasn't sure how quickly. Well we know now. Federer will be the third best player in the world after Cincy regardless of what the ATP rankings say

buddyholly
08-01-2008, 01:21 PM
Of course. I would be very surprised if he withdrew without putting up a defence.

(Why couldn't you use the simple word ''win'' in place of the erroneous ''defend''? I wouldn't have even opened this silly thread if I had not thought there might be some injury news.)

groundstroke
08-01-2008, 01:21 PM
Federer will win US Open.

SheepleBuster
08-01-2008, 01:24 PM
Federer will win US Open.

Maybe the Golf tournament not the tennis one. With no backhand and a poor forehand and a shaky serve he might even lose to Blake though that would the exciting match yet. Too off color stars going at each other. Who sucks more!

groundstroke
08-01-2008, 01:28 PM
Maybe the Golf tournament not the tennis one. With no backhand and a poor forehand and a shaky serve he might even lose to Blake though that would the exciting match yet. Too off color stars going at each other. Who sucks more!
His topspin backhand isn't as great as it was 2 years ago, but if you saw his slice backhand last year against Djokovic in the final, it was why he won the match. He wouldn't let Djokovic play at all. Hopefully Federer will step it up.

selyoink
08-01-2008, 02:18 PM
No, he will go out in the 4th round. Hopefully to a mug like Berdych or Verdasco.

miura
08-01-2008, 02:18 PM
Federer needs a comeback and US Open is the perfect place to it if doesn't suddenly goes ahead and takes the Olympics.

Monteque
08-01-2008, 02:19 PM
20%. He lost his champion attitude.

He needs a long break imo

Bilbo
08-01-2008, 02:20 PM
the answer you are searching for is NO

hopefully rafa takes it. anyone but nole is fine for me.

platinum
08-01-2008, 02:41 PM
Federer will NOT defend his US Open title this year.

Mansave_75
08-01-2008, 02:47 PM
No way. Nadal or Djokovic are prime than him!

MacTheKnife
08-01-2008, 02:49 PM
I doubt it seriously, but he is a lot harder to beat in 5 sets. Ask Rafa, had Wimby been best of 3, it would have been over in two. Do you seriously think Karlovic would have beaten him in best of 5. I think not.
BUT, considering where is confidence is right now, almost non-existent in tight situations, I would be surprised if he got past the semis. Having said that, if he does get to the semis, reaching 2 semis, and 2 finals in all four slams is a year 99% of tour players would kill for, and by Feds standards, it sucks.

CyBorg
08-01-2008, 04:47 PM
No. I'm seeing too many problems. Not just one, but a few. No discernable weapon to speak of, visibly low confidence, possible health problems. Roger might benefit from taking some time off in the fall.

I miss watching the man dominate. It's demoralizing watching guys like Karlovic trouble him, because Roger's skill is still there, but it seems like he lacks strength. His body isn't responding the way it would in the past and tennis is just too physical a game now to compensate.

Graphite, the string tensions today create too much parity for my liking. I know Roger is struggling. But he shouldn't be losing these matches. This is happening because his opponents are healthier and stronger, but the skill is almost a non-factor when almost every guy with a big serve and decent forehand can be effective enough a player with the modern equipment. This wouldn't be happening 20 years ago.

Sebby
08-01-2008, 05:05 PM
I so wanna see Karlovic serve with a wooden racket :rocker:

tennisfan444
08-01-2008, 05:06 PM
yes the king will return

dweijnen
08-01-2008, 05:10 PM
He will lose in the final against the Gooch.

finishingmove
08-01-2008, 05:15 PM
I so wanna see Karlovic serve with a wooden racket :rocker:

dont u think federer benefits more from the racquet technology?

Allez
08-01-2008, 05:19 PM
Never! If he does then I'm afraid the ATP will have been proven a bigger joke than the WTA. When was the last time someone playing this poorly won a major ?

Sebby
08-01-2008, 05:27 PM
dont u think federer benefits more from the racquet technology?

It's not what I meant.

I wanna see Karlovic serve with a wooden racket just for the pleasure ;)

Sunset of Age
08-01-2008, 05:46 PM
I know Roger is struggling. But he shouldn't be losing these matches. This is happening because his opponents are healthier and stronger, but the skill is almost a non-factor when almost every guy with a big serve and decent forehand can be effective enough a player with the modern equipment. This wouldn't be happening 20 years ago.

Okay, my two cents. Yes, I agree that Roger is struggling.
But - I've just watched the match against Karlovic (who has always been a nasty opponent for Roger, btw) and can't possibly agree with the statement that this was such a bad performance from Roger. In that third set, before TB, he lost an entire TWO POINTS. That was all. And as we all know, playing TBs is much like a lottery, and Roger obviously drew the wrong ticket this time. Roger has had plenty of good luck in the past, this time, not.
Had this been a best-of-five match, I have no doubts he would have managed to win it eventually.

And that's exactly why I think that while he might well not be able to defend his title, he'll surely show what he's made off. No early loss to be expected here. Best-of-five is an entirely different matter than best-of-three, and despite his slump still making 2 GS finals and 1 semi (while ill) is surely proof of the fact that he's still a very tough cookie to beat in such an occasion. :armed:

safinalium
08-01-2008, 05:47 PM
I voted that he will lose in the semis though I'm not even sure that he can go this far. After the disastrous losses in Toronto and Cincy and Nadal probably taking the N1 spot very soon his confidence of a champion must be crushed.

safin-rules-no.1
08-01-2008, 05:48 PM
First round loss to Xristos

SheepleBuster
08-01-2008, 07:22 PM
Okay, my two cents. Yes, I agree that Roger is struggling.
But - I've just watched the match against Karlovic (who has always been a nasty opponent for Roger, btw) and can't possibly agree with the statement that this was such a bad performance from Roger. In that third set, before TB, he lost an entire TWO POINTS. That was all. And as we all know, playing TBs is much like a lottery, and Roger obviously drew the wrong ticket this time. Roger has had plenty of good luck in the past, this time, not.
Had this been a best-of-five match, I have no doubts he would have managed to win it eventually.

And that's exactly why I think that while he might well not be able to defend his title, he'll surely show what he's made off. No early loss to be expected here. Best-of-five is an entirely different matter than best-of-three, and despite his slump still making 2 GS finals and 1 semi (while ill) is surely proof of the fact that he's still a very tough cookie to beat in such an occasion. :armed:

With all due respect here I need to call BS on this whole had it not been a 3 setter thing. Federer played Karlovic a bunch of other times and never lost 2 sets. In a best of 5 match, with Fed being down 2 sets to one against a tough server like Karlovic, Fed would probably need to win 2 tie-breaks. So you tell me. Someone who has lost 2 tie-breaks by just one error, the way Karlovic was serving, who would you put your money on? Come on! Also, Federer showed at Australia that the right opponent can push him. Serve to his backhand and he is a mug! Nadal's been doing it for years now and everybody else is copying. The difference between Nadal and Federer is that Nadal stays humble whereas Federer thinks he is perfect and doesn't change his game. That's how you lose 4 French matches to Rafa and lose your Wimbly to Rafa. Roger's been poor for a year now. Even the U.S. Open last year was poor and let's not forget the whole Nalbandian debacle last year. He won Shanghai but lost to Gonzalez. He started going down after French last year. Simple as that.

CyBorg
08-01-2008, 08:23 PM
Okay, my two cents. Yes, I agree that Roger is struggling.
But - I've just watched the match against Karlovic (who has always been a nasty opponent for Roger, btw) and can't possibly agree with the statement that this was such a bad performance from Roger. In that third set, before TB, he lost an entire TWO POINTS. That was all. And as we all know, playing TBs is much like a lottery, and Roger obviously drew the wrong ticket this time. Roger has had plenty of good luck in the past, this time, not.
Had this been a best-of-five match, I have no doubts he would have managed to win it eventually.

And that's exactly why I think that while he might well not be able to defend his title, he'll surely show what he's made off. No early loss to be expected here. Best-of-five is an entirely different matter than best-of-three, and despite his slump still making 2 GS finals and 1 semi (while ill) is surely proof of the fact that he's still a very tough cookie to beat in such an occasion. :armed:

It was worse than you think. Did you watch the Kohlschreiber match today? There was one break point the entire time. Karlovic is a horrible, horrible returner and he made Roger's serve look good.

LinkMage
08-01-2008, 09:14 PM
Will probably lose to some utter clown in the 1st round. Maybe Berlocq. Or maybe the legend Alun Jones...oh, he already retired. :sad:

Pepi.
08-01-2008, 10:08 PM
No.

ASP0315
08-01-2008, 10:35 PM
anything can happen in a best of five match right.
apart from losing to Nadal and Djokovic i haven't seen federer lose any best of 5 set matches this year. That said i don't think he will win USO. SF is the best bet.(although i'll give him 10 % of chances to reach there.)

FedFan_2007
08-01-2008, 10:41 PM
Bottom line, Fed's been horrible since he won 2007 Australian Open. Something "broke" inside him after that and he's never been the same. Even though he immediately won Dubai after that, he was already playing badly and out of shape. It's as if he traded his soul to the devil for that transcendent 2007 Australian Open run.

betowiec
08-02-2008, 01:41 AM
no, he won't

Allez
08-02-2008, 07:31 AM
Bottom line, Fed's been horrible since he won 2007 Australian Open. Something "broke" inside him after that and he's never been the same. Even though he immediately won Dubai after that, he was already playing badly and out of shape. It's as if he traded his soul to the devil for that transcendent 2007 Australian Open run.

Yeah. I've always had a feeling that he'd lost something at that Open. All through 2007 he was winning titles he should not have been winning. He was winning them on his name alone.

Eden
08-02-2008, 07:35 AM
All through 2007 he was winning titles he should not have been winning. He was winning them on his name alone.

Oh yes, especially the title at the AO, which he won without losing a set :yeah:

Allez
08-02-2008, 07:38 AM
Oh yes, especially the title at the AO, which he won without losing a set :yeah:

He didn't lose a set in Halle this year either. It happens. Doesn't mean he's playing like he did between 2004-2006. He lost something there and a year later it caught up with him.

Eden
08-02-2008, 07:47 AM
He didn't lose a set in Halle this year either. It happens. Doesn't mean he's playing like he did between 2004-2006. He lost something there and a year later it caught up with him.

Only a fool would have expected that the domination would go on forever. It was unique what Roger did the past years.

But your statement that he only won titles last year because of his name and which he shouldn't have won is ridiculous.

Allez
08-02-2008, 09:04 AM
Only a fool would have expected that the domination would go on forever. It was unique what Roger did the past years.

But your statement that he only won titles last year because of his name and which he shouldn't have won is ridiculous.

Wimbledon and the US Open. Both opponents choked away because they were playing Federer. It's common knowledge.

Mechlan
08-02-2008, 09:37 AM
Wimbledon and the US Open. Both opponents choked away because they were playing Federer. It's common knowledge.

:lol: This Federer is was very good.

Exodus
08-02-2008, 11:44 AM
no federer is done

Eden
08-02-2008, 12:07 PM
Wimbledon and the US Open. Both opponents choked away because they were playing Federer. It's common knowledge.

:lol:

Common knowledge is only that GM is apparently more crazy than ever these days.

leng jai
08-02-2008, 12:09 PM
Bottom line, Fed's been horrible since he won 2007 Australian Open. Something "broke" inside him after that and he's never been the same. Even though he immediately won Dubai after that, he was already playing badly and out of shape. It's as if he traded his soul to the devil for that transcendent 2007 Australian Open run.

Your definition of horrible has more flaws than the notion of MTF making sense.