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Cincy R3: [16] "Ball Buster" Karlovic def. [1] Federer 7-6(6), 4-6, 7-6(5)

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MIMIC
07-31-2008, 08:42 PM
Karlovic busted a ball :haha: Laser targeted percision from the Ivo the Giant.

Very impressive volleying and those service bombs really helped Karlovic take out Federer.

LocoPorElTenis
07-31-2008, 08:42 PM
Ivo held his nerve during the tbs, not losing a single point on his serve. First victory over Fed, whose downward spiral seems to have no end.

Fumus
07-31-2008, 08:43 PM
Karlovic > Mathieu

TheBoiledEgg
07-31-2008, 08:43 PM
3 2nd serves he had to face in TB and he lost them all :rolleyes:

quite pathetic
Roger's done :( :sad:

groundstroke
07-31-2008, 08:43 PM
Solid from Ivo. Federer couldn't break the second serves.

Allegretto
07-31-2008, 08:43 PM
Excellent.

ClaudiuS
07-31-2008, 08:44 PM
:bowdown:

LocoPorElTenis
07-31-2008, 08:44 PM
If Nadal wins the tournament he will be the new number 1.

Jadranka
07-31-2008, 08:44 PM
:D :D :D :D :D well done, dr.ivo!!

TMJordan
07-31-2008, 08:44 PM
It's over for Roger.

oranges
07-31-2008, 08:44 PM
Ivo :clap2:

Richardgm
07-31-2008, 08:44 PM
The king is dead.

Long live the king.

scarecrows
07-31-2008, 08:44 PM
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3178/puppyuy0.gif

Fish, Roddick, Simon, Karlovic

all he needs is to lose to Berlocq and it cant get lower

groundstroke
07-31-2008, 08:44 PM
Karlovic's backhand was even more hilarious in this match.

feuselino
07-31-2008, 08:44 PM
Fed lost two points on his own serve during the whole third set... :(

Well, at least he will be rested for the Olympics...

The Freak
07-31-2008, 08:44 PM
Haha wow, Federer could hardly hit a grounstroke in that 3rd set TB...

Clydey
07-31-2008, 08:45 PM
Federer played really well actually. No one can say it was a poor performance. He just couldn't handle Ivo's serve.

Chrisilson
07-31-2008, 08:45 PM
Fed played very well for a change but the Serveatron is unstoppable if he plays like that

He didn't break Federer at all, Federer made 1 mistake in each tie-break and duly lost

xelena
07-31-2008, 08:45 PM
cool :)) way to go Karlossss

Leen.
07-31-2008, 08:45 PM
No. No, no, no! Damn!
But congrats to Ivo. Awesome serving once again.

LocoPorElTenis
07-31-2008, 08:45 PM
Is there any former bitch remaining that hasn't beat Federer yet?

akosijepoy
07-31-2008, 08:45 PM
OMG! Roger :(

Rogieva
07-31-2008, 08:45 PM
:sad:

No words.

prima donna
07-31-2008, 08:45 PM
Stated it earlier on, Roger wouldn't be making it to the quarterfinals of this tournament and my prediction held true to form.

miura
07-31-2008, 08:45 PM
It's disgusting how a player only relies on ONE part of the game to win. That said, he does have an excellent serve. Too bad Roger couldn't keep the UF's lower.

Pfloyd
07-31-2008, 08:45 PM
To be fair Federer played at a higher level than at his other losses, but Karlovic was good in the tb's.

djoky
07-31-2008, 08:45 PM
Ha Ha love it!

Jagermeister
07-31-2008, 08:45 PM
Damn...and I mean DAMN.

Ivo's a tough dude to beat but Roger had looks at second serves in that tiebreaker. Roger played better than when he lost to Simon but there was a lot less margin for error here. Hell, did I see Ivo hit a backhand passing shot winner there? lol

Let's see if Nadal can do his part.

RafaTheBest
07-31-2008, 08:46 PM
VAAAAAMOOOOOOS Spartan Karlovic! Welcome to the club. A new #1 is looming!

kafemotor
07-31-2008, 08:46 PM
I almost cant take my breath... Booring match, but the tension is high... Funny Fed won the points over Ivo 106-101 :P

Deathless Mortal
07-31-2008, 08:46 PM
Finally :rocker2: :worship:
Ivo you fucking legend :worship: :bowdown:
I was thinking he'll choke it all the time he finally didn't well done :rocker2:
Too bad that nowadays it isn't such a big deal to beat Federer as it was not such a long time ago :lol:
Now go get the title :D

Black Adam
07-31-2008, 08:46 PM
:lol: :haha: :rolls: Too Funny! Anybody can sneak a win versus Fedy these days. The guy is fried and needs to take the rest of the year off before attempting a comeback next year. :devil:

Karlovic=Spartan!!! :rolls::rolls:

nanoman
07-31-2008, 08:46 PM
Roger is sucking. He can't step it up anymore, which makes him just a average player right now.

But not all is lost. He still got those exhibitions left.

Cafisho
07-31-2008, 08:46 PM
This thing didn't happened... no way, Fed losing to that ugly giant is so disappointing :(

Jaz
07-31-2008, 08:47 PM
It was a disgrace. Federer played well.

Heck even some of the crowd were booing as Karlo celebrated.

njnetswill
07-31-2008, 08:47 PM
Karlovic is awful off the ground, but good enough to let Roger self-destruct.

The only sign of old Roger was when he saved the two BPs with big first serves.

Ivo vs Kohli in QF. :yeah:

gusman890
07-31-2008, 08:47 PM
YES!!!!

Nice win Ivo!! :)

KitinovRules
07-31-2008, 08:47 PM
Federer truba, please retire.

Now Rafa loses tonight, and as usual Faker wins this tournament.
That is how only the Faker could wins

Clydey
07-31-2008, 08:47 PM
It's disgusting how a player only relies on ONE part of the game to win. That said, he does have an excellent serve. Too bad Roger couldn't keep the UF's lower.

Huh? He barely hit any UEs in the last 2sets.

Mr Brightside
07-31-2008, 08:47 PM
take some rest Roger:sad:

LocoPorElTenis
07-31-2008, 08:47 PM
Federer lost the intangible mental edge over players like Karlovic. Before they had close matches but you knew Fed was going to win in the end. Now players like Ivo lost him the respect they had and play the big points freely.

ChinoRios4Ever
07-31-2008, 08:47 PM
The end of a great era.

Fed 2004-2008 :worship:

ReturnWinner
07-31-2008, 08:47 PM
Ivo finally could it and with 22 aces. one of the few matches which Federer gets aced more than 20 times.Obviously Federer last results made him to lose a little his confidence in playing big points.

Yappa
07-31-2008, 08:47 PM
Hm, I thought he had a good chance to return that kick serve at mp #3. Guess I was wrong.

selyoink
07-31-2008, 08:47 PM
Breaking news from Basel, Switzerland where the authorities have ordered the digging of Roger "FedMug" Federer's grave as it won't be long now.

I never thought FedMug could lose two tiebreaks to Ivo. Guess I was underestimating just how much of a mug he is.

Blue Heart24
07-31-2008, 08:48 PM
yessssssssssssssssssssssssss

Ivo :worship::worship::worship::drink: :drink: :rocker2::rocker2::woohoo::woohoo:

Cant believe he won this and cant believe he won all points on his serve in both TB's!!!!!!!!!

Now get to the final,at least.;)

Snoo Foo
07-31-2008, 08:48 PM
:hearts: Ajmo Ajmo Ajmo :hearts:
:hearts: Divo Divo Divo :hearts:

shotgun
07-31-2008, 08:48 PM
Karlovic had a few close matches against Federer before and today he was finally able to beat him. :yeah:

sheeter
07-31-2008, 08:48 PM
Federer played well but karlovic played very well. Great volleys, good forehands, and the backhand held its own. And do I need to even say anything about the serve?

jazar
07-31-2008, 08:49 PM
federer didnt really play badly; there were just a couple of loose shots in the final breaker and some passes throughout the match that he would have probably made at the peak of his powers. credit to the doc though, he served tremendously

alfonsojose
07-31-2008, 08:49 PM
:o JesusMess :tape:

Chrisilson
07-31-2008, 08:49 PM
There is zero room for error against Karlovic when he serves like that, i'll be interested to see how anyone else plans to break him

Jaz
07-31-2008, 08:49 PM
I think if anyone says Federer played badly, he didn't. I saw the match, he played well.

rhinooooo
07-31-2008, 08:49 PM
Is there any former bitch remaining that hasn't beat Federer yet?

Davy and Blake come to mind. I don't know how Davy didn't beat him last year at the French.

Five
07-31-2008, 08:49 PM
:D GO Rafa ;)

Fedex
07-31-2008, 08:50 PM
:help: :tape:

I haven't seen Federer play this poorly and look this helpless on the court for years.

Voo de Mar
07-31-2008, 08:50 PM
Karlovic has won so many matches in the 3rd set tie-break like any other player but today's win is the most important one :yeah:

Ferrero, Rafter, Henman, A.Costa, Horna, Nalbandian, Nadal, Canas, Djokovic, Stepanek, Karlovic - list of players who won two tie-breaks in a match against Federer who is one of the best tie-breakers in history.

Lurker011
07-31-2008, 08:50 PM
i'm a huge federer fan,but he should freaking retire if he keeps playing like this. just total crap. damn,nadal is in his head. this is a horrible day for tennis when a mug like ivo beats a player like roger! damn!:mad:

spencercarlos
07-31-2008, 08:51 PM
Federer played really well actually. No one can say it was a poor performance. He just couldn't handle Ivo's serve.
How do you think you are returning serve when you are not willing to move?

Beforehand
07-31-2008, 08:51 PM
Yeah. Roger didn't particularly play all that badly, but...yeah...what are you going to do?

Big points...not done.

henree
07-31-2008, 08:51 PM
Federer lost the intangible mental edge over players like Karlovic. Before they had close matches but you knew Fed was going to win in the end. Now players like Ivo lost him the respect they had and play the big points freely.

When this happens to a champion you know the end is near.:sad:

tennisfan444
07-31-2008, 08:51 PM
:sad::sad::sad::sad::sad:
roger will come back for one last hurrah, one day soon. wait and see,

tangerine_dream
07-31-2008, 08:51 PM
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Roger loses to just about anybody nowadays. His confidence is completely shot. Rafa really did a number on him.

nanoman
07-31-2008, 08:52 PM
Federer played really well actually. No one can say it was a poor performance. He just couldn't handle Ivo's serve.

It was a poor performance. The difference between a good and verage player is that the former one steps up during the big points. Ivo gave him plenty of looks during the 1st and 3rd tiebreaks, but good old Rogi couldn't make anything out of it.

r2473
07-31-2008, 08:52 PM
Stated it earlier on, Roger wouldn't be making it to the quarterfinals of this tournament and my prediction held true to form.

Ya, and I respond "who the hell is he going to lose to, Ivo?"

TankingTheSet
07-31-2008, 08:52 PM
Fed lost two points on his own serve during the whole third set... :(

Well, at least he will be rested for the Olympics...

Yes, Karlovic won 2/31 receiving points in the third set.

I've NEVER seen someone win a set with those stats.

Unlucky for Fed maybe.

MacTheKnife
07-31-2008, 08:52 PM
It's hard to believe you can make two mistakes and lose a match, and one of them was a net cord. Awesome serving from Ivo, he really held his nerve. That 2nd serve on MP was unreal. Great win. Feds woes continue... Now the best thing that could happen to him will, drop to #2...

Jadranka
07-31-2008, 08:52 PM
Pederer :worship: :haha:

Jagermeister
07-31-2008, 08:53 PM
:help: :tape:

I haven't seen Federer play this poorly and look this helpless on the court for years.

37 winners and 26 ue's doesn't sound that bad. Come on.

Spes
07-31-2008, 08:53 PM
:bigwave: Bye Roger. The end of an era, took long enough. :rolleyes:

madmax
07-31-2008, 08:53 PM
Wow, just wow, seems like all the former scrubs lost all the respect to the master and started playing beyond their capabilities...the giant's serve was like from another planet, it's not like Fed was playing badly, just made some silly errors, which proved to be costly...Anyway I saw some unreal serving tonight and Fed was just unlucky tonight

Athletics1982
07-31-2008, 08:53 PM
Congratulation!! Ivo Karlovic finally won a match when facing Federer !!! Let's see the new king !!!

moon language
07-31-2008, 08:54 PM
Finally the tree gets a win over Federer.

spencercarlos
07-31-2008, 08:54 PM
Stated it earlier on, Roger wouldn't be making it to the quarterfinals of this tournament and my prediction held true to form.
He should have lost to Ginepri as well, really seems that Federer is not having fun on court at all, in fact he seems like he wants to be out of it inmediately.

Pheobo
07-31-2008, 08:54 PM
Ivo's ground strokes are more embarrassing than I remembered. Still, great win for him.

HoistDaColors
07-31-2008, 08:55 PM
roger played well enough to lose :o
congratz ivo, you deserved the win.

finishingmove
07-31-2008, 08:55 PM
clutch karlovic.

told you this could happen.

they were both obviously saving strenght for the tiebreak in the 3rd set. the temperature was like 42-43ºC

platinum
07-31-2008, 08:55 PM
Expected.

Monofed used all his luck possible vs Ginepri.


I told you EXfed would not win Cincy.


Take that ATP and your strawberry shortcake draws to help Rogelio....

scoobs
07-31-2008, 08:55 PM
Not that bad a performance from Roger but the thing he needed perhaps the most today, the second serve return, is one of the things that has been giving him yips for a while now - Rafa at Wimbledon, Simon in Toronto and now here, just not controlling the return well at all.

And then, you know - tiebreaks...blows it.

Damn.

Clydey
07-31-2008, 08:56 PM
It was a poor performance. The difference between a good and verage player is that the former one steps up during the big points. Ivo gave him plenty of looks during the 1st and 3rd tiebreaks, but good old Rogi couldn't make anything out of it.

He made two mistakes and lost the match. He barely hit any UEs. He played well. You're in denial if you think that was a poor Federer.

Andre♥
07-31-2008, 08:56 PM
Karlovic was always a tough nut for Federer. It's only necessary to see the past results:

6-3 7-6 7-6
6-7 6-3 7-6
7-6 7-6
7-6 7-6
6-3 4-6 6-3
7-6 6-3


Now the match was once again close and Ivo has finally defeated Federer!

Truly deserved. Now win it all! :yeah:

Jaz
07-31-2008, 08:56 PM
I think he was unlucky, I thought his forehand was pretty good, UE's were low.

With a guy serving like Karovic I would have doubted many would win..

federerfan7465
07-31-2008, 08:56 PM
Damn.

Plenty of rest but more importantly REFLECTION for roger before the Olympics and the Open.

Roger doesn't deserve to be no. 1 right now.

Chrisilson
07-31-2008, 08:56 PM
All you lot you who are saying that Federer played poorly obviously didn't watch the match. About as good as i've seen him play in a long time.

Lots of winners and cut down a lot on the UE but Serveatron was ridiculous today. Not just pinpoint serves but they were all around 140mph, not even a look in for Fed.

MIMIC
07-31-2008, 08:57 PM
Federer's stats were in the positive (+5 maybe) Ivo had 46 winners and 46 UEs.

choppaa
07-31-2008, 08:57 PM
Federer truba, please retire.

Now Rafa loses tonight, and as usual Faker wins this tournament.
That is how only the Faker could wins

LOL. Such a true Djokovic fan. You can't live not to mention "Faker" in Federer's threads. Thanks for your service sir.

RafaTheBest
07-31-2008, 08:57 PM
Ivo's ground strokes are more embarrassing than I remembered. Still, great win for him.

His backhand is an embarrassment to tennis. They weren't just hitting the net, they were hitting the bottom of the net. But, he still managed to serve is way to Spartan status! :worship::worship::worship:

jacobhiggins
07-31-2008, 08:57 PM
Federer is slower and has lost power! He's not the same player right now. He needs to get fit again!

selyoink
07-31-2008, 08:58 PM
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Roger loses to just about anybody nowadays. His confidence is completely shot. Rafa really did a number on him.

Fed lost to mugs Fish and Roddick before playing Rafa this year. He has been a mug all year, nothing to do with Rafa. Its quite unbelievable Rafa needed 5 sets to beat this mug at Wimbledon.

Mashachosen1
07-31-2008, 08:59 PM
Great played for both players. Karlovic improved his volleys and groundstrokes. And his very MASSIVE serves his weapon.

Roger :hug:

Jimnik
07-31-2008, 08:59 PM
Federer just not winning important points anymore. He definitely should have won today.

In a way it's unlucky that the first fast court tournament of the year he has to play Karlovic. I'm sure he would rather have played him last week and Simon this week.

I really can't believe that this form will last. Surely he won't lose early at the Olympics too.

octatennis
07-31-2008, 09:00 PM
karlovic congrats for your first victory against the legend.

those who said that federer was playing poorly seems like you didn't see the match, did you see his forehand winners against ivo's slice.. c'mon what gave ivo the match were just two points with federer not being confortable to hit them, credit to karlo for his amazing serve and the great volleys.

federer see you soon.

shotgun
07-31-2008, 09:00 PM
Federer lost the intangible mental edge over players like Karlovic. Before they had close matches but you knew Fed was going to win in the end. Now players like Ivo lost him the respect they had and play the big points freely.

Exactly. This was very similar to the loss against Stepanek at Rome. Federer played many matches like that when he was at his prime, the difference is that he would always win in the end if only for this mental edge. Now that he doesn't have it anymore, either he plays his A-game all the time or he's going to bomb out of tournaments before the final more often than not.

nanoman
07-31-2008, 09:00 PM
He made two mistakes and lost the match. He barely hit any UEs. He played well. You're in denial if you think that was a poor Federer.

He was poor when it mattered. Defenitely more than 2 mistakes. Every point he lost to KArlovic from the baseline should be counted as a mistake. There were plenty of those in the tiebreaks.

moon language
07-31-2008, 09:01 PM
Federer is slower and has lost power! He's not the same player right now. He needs to get fit again!

You mean he needs to be 24 years old again.

Caerula Sanguis
07-31-2008, 09:01 PM
There was nothing worng with Federer's game today except for a miss back hand here and there. Ivo played almost perfect. He didn't lose a single point in two tiebreaks.

Smasher
07-31-2008, 09:02 PM
Congrats Ivo, well deserved after many close previous encounters! :hatoff:

I wonder how long Federer can stand these losses to his former bitches. Surely he has to change something, but how long will it take until he realizes it. Exhibitions and other puppet shows with Sampras and Borg aren't probably the right solution...

G4.
07-31-2008, 09:03 PM
yes there was something wrong with this game , Karlovic was competiting with fed from the baseline , sometimes he was even running him all over the court

BackhandMissile
07-31-2008, 09:03 PM
As I like to say, if you can guarantee winning your service games then you'll never be broken, and if you can go ahead and guarantee winning service points then you'll never be beaten.

The service is 50% of tennis.

dodoboy
07-31-2008, 09:03 PM
:haha:

Well done Ivo!

spencercarlos
07-31-2008, 09:04 PM
Federer lost the intangible mental edge over players like Karlovic. Before they had close matches but you knew Fed was going to win in the end. Now players like Ivo lost him the respect they had and play the big points freely.
Federer´s shot making at important points has been lame for months now, as Roddick explained in Miami. There goes your intimidation.

When you are not making things happen, others will. Federer´s inability to produce great tennis consistently is the main reason of this slump.

Still i think its great for tennis, at this point Nadal deserves the top position, after Wimbledon he should have gotten that top rank already.

Clydey
07-31-2008, 09:04 PM
He was poor when it mattered. Defenitely more than 2 mistakes. Every point he lost to KArlovic from the baseline is a mistake. There were plenty of those in the tiebreaks.

Karlovic won 1 point on Federer's serve in the second set before the tiebreak. He lost about 5 points in baseline exchanges. The rest of the time, he won or Karlovic's serve won him the point. It was a very good performance. Lots of winners. UEs in single digits for the last two sets (not sure about the first). Karlovic just served too well.

tae04
07-31-2008, 09:06 PM
What's the excuse today Federer? LOL

nisha
07-31-2008, 09:06 PM
wow

is he finally gonna seek help and admit something isnt right?

q.j.
07-31-2008, 09:06 PM
correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't this loss
and the fact that he loses > 400 points mean that Nadull is automatically No.1 next Monday
no matter how far he progresses in Cincy?? (had to defend 5points from 2007)

lina_seta
07-31-2008, 09:06 PM
well im not happy but i wont complain... at least it was respectable.

Sebby
07-31-2008, 09:07 PM
OK...Nevermind :wavey: @ #1 and let's move on to the Olympics ! :rocker:

venusfan
07-31-2008, 09:07 PM
Does Nadal even needs to win the tournament to be #1 now

Mashachosen1
07-31-2008, 09:08 PM
All you lot you who are saying that Federer played poorly obviously didn't watch the match.

Or in denial, of course. :angel:

finishingmove
07-31-2008, 09:08 PM
Does Nadal even needs to win the tournament to be #1 now

nadal can go on a vacation and he'll be number 1.

Jimnik
07-31-2008, 09:08 PM
correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't this loss
and the fact that he loses > 400 points mean that Nadull is automatically No.1 next Monday
no matter how far he progresses in Cincy?? (had to defend 5points from 2007)
You're wrong.

No points come off this week because of the Olympic schedule. Nadal needs to win to be #1 on Monday.

Does Nadal even needs to win the tournament to be #1 now
He'll definitely be #1 before the US Open, whatever happens.

Eden
07-31-2008, 09:09 PM
As sad as the outcome of the match is for a Federer fan there's really nothing that much you can blame Roger today for. He played quite good and had a great attitude on the court.
Tiebreaks can go either way and this time it was Karlovic who took his chances. Congrats for him for the victory.

Roger, hope you will be able to ignore all the haters who will write you off. As a fan who followed your career for several years now and enjoys your tennis the most of all players on the tour it doesn't matter for me where you are ranked. You have been the No. 1 for the longest consecutive weeks in a row and defended it against such a great player as Nadal, who would have been No. 1 already with his results if you hadn't been dominating the game like you did.

Looking forward to see you back on the court, just enjoying the game and with lowered pressure on you.

cardio
07-31-2008, 09:10 PM
NO one beats Ivo Karlovic 7 times in a row!:)
Congrats, dr.Ivo, he wanted this so badly and this was probably his only and last chance to win world #1.
And at last I got one prediction more or less right, it doesnt happen often
H2H is 6-0 Fed, but I think dr.Ivo has a good chance here,better than last year in Basel and Paris,Fed is more vulnerable now.He is used to play sloppy service games, he cant afford to do it against Karlovic. Anyway, my money is on Karlo, small stake though

q.j.
07-31-2008, 09:11 PM
300 point is between them
don't you mean he has to reach final, not win it to be no.1??

ChinoRios4Ever
07-31-2008, 09:13 PM
It's oficial
The RG beatdown hurt his mind a lot and the Wimbledon loss killed him mental edge totally.

Chrisilson
07-31-2008, 09:13 PM
As I like to say, if you can guarantee winning your service games then you'll never be broken, and if you can go ahead and guarantee winning service points then you'll never be beaten.

The service is 50% of tennis.

Precisely.

If your opponent is near impossible to break then it makes the important points utterly crucial.

Its typical that all the complete idiots on here completely ridicule Federer because he got served off the court :rolleyes:

Jimnik
07-31-2008, 09:13 PM
300 point is between them
don't you mean he has to reach final, not win it to be no.1??
No because Federer gains 75 points this week.

Caerula Sanguis
07-31-2008, 09:13 PM
300 point is between them
don't you mean he has to reach final, not win it to be no.1??

He has to win it to become #1 next week because he'll get deduct 75 points for next week.

Because they're counting points from 11 masters instead of normal 9, the 2 extra masters are replacing 2 of the 5 optionals.

nanoman
07-31-2008, 09:13 PM
Karlovic won 1 point on Federer's serve in the second set before the tiebreak. He lost about 5 points in baseline exchanges. The rest of the time, he won or Karlovic's serve won him the point. It was a very good performance. Lots of winners. UEs in single digits for the last two sets (not sure about the first). Karlovic just served too well.

UE's and winners ratio are useless when you are playing someone like Karlovic. The big man couldn't even keep the ball long enough in play to let you make an UE.
Tiebreaks is all it mattered. Just in the 3rd tiebreak, KArlovic gave him 3 second serves and Roger couldn't make any of them. How could you say thata was a good performance ?!

~Maya~
07-31-2008, 09:14 PM
LOL. Such a true Djokovic fan. You can't live not to mention "Faker" in Federer's threads. Thanks for your service sir.

He is a pathetic individual who is obsessed with his hate towards Djokovic. Only reason he is on this forum is to bash Djokovic. Not a tennis fan. I don't remember when he said anything nice about any player. His hate doesn't have anything to do with tennis, and I know who he is.

ASP0315
07-31-2008, 09:14 PM
fed din't plays badly
karlovic was good when it mattered.
oh BTW karlovic's volleying and fh is top notch when it works.
congrats Doc

i hope federer and fansdoesn't get too dissapointed in fed's form. he will come back next year strong. mark my words.

q.j.
07-31-2008, 09:15 PM
@ Jimnik
yeah, you got me there, tnx :)

Damn
07-31-2008, 09:15 PM
Ivo's serve:

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Ivo's serve on Federer:

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JesusFed:

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platinum
07-31-2008, 09:15 PM
Fed lost to mugs Fish and Roddick before playing Rafa this year. He has been a mug all year, nothing to do with Rafa. Its quite unbelievable Rafa needed 5 sets to beat this mug at Wimbledon.

One word: RAIN.

Manon
07-31-2008, 09:15 PM
That's the end of PURE tennis. I am sad about Fed but furious cuz of Thing.

RafaTheBest
07-31-2008, 09:18 PM
That's the end of BALLET tennis. I am sad about Fed but furious cuz of Thing.

Fixed that for you!

Manon
07-31-2008, 09:19 PM
No because Federer gains 75 points this week.

Sure:worship: Atptennis.com, click player, see 2 times appears Canada Open or Roger's Cup. So easy to count.

Allez
07-31-2008, 09:19 PM
Bloody awful, though entirely expected result. Roger has turned into the ultimate mug in just a few months. No getting back frm this. Watch the mono talk creep its way back to his interviews :rolleyes:

Manon
07-31-2008, 09:20 PM
Fixed that for you!

You can change my post milon times. Thing remains Thing.

~Maya~
07-31-2008, 09:22 PM
I am sad for Federer but still happy for Ivo. Roger didn't play that bad. It is Ivo who played better when it mattered the most

Merton
07-31-2008, 09:22 PM
Congrats to Ivo, he served great, hit two backhand passing shot winners and didn't face a break point in the 1st and 3rd set. Roger lost the tiebreaks because he couldn't win a point on Ivo's 2nd serve, and he lost the match having won 106 points to Ivo's 101. I think that also happened against Stepanek in the Rome match.

platinum
07-31-2008, 09:22 PM
You can change my post milon times. Thing remains Thing.

SEXY thing :drool:

navy75
07-31-2008, 09:22 PM
That's the end of PURE tennis. I am sad about Fed but furious cuz of Thing.

No need for that. Karlovic is a great player, and when he plays like he did today he's close to impossible to beat. You can give props to Federer without insulting his opponent's physical characteristics...

Commander Data
07-31-2008, 09:24 PM
I really start fo feel sorry for Fed. Everything goes wrong this year. I mean, No major Title. losses to players one thought he would not lose in a million years, Wimbledon gone, No. 1 gone etc .....


Compared to Fed-standart that he set the previous years this must feel for him like Agassi droping out of the top 100 :devil:


I really hope he can regroup and attack in full force 2009.

Manon
07-31-2008, 09:24 PM
I am sad for Federer but still happy for Ivo.

Yes, I forgot to congratulate Ivo. Balls guy!

mr_burns
07-31-2008, 09:25 PM
Fed lost two points on his own serve during the whole third set... :(

Well, at least he will be rested for the Olympics...

if that's true, he is never allowed to lose the set---

cool bird1
07-31-2008, 09:25 PM
Bloody awful, though entirely expected result. Roger has turned into the ultimate mug in just a few months. No getting back frm this. Watch the mono talk creep its way back to his interviews :rolleyes:

Fed is no where near a mug. His 2008 is over really no french amd no wimbledon no number 1. I think Fed will play the Open then take the rest of the year off to sort his head out.

RafaTheBest
07-31-2008, 09:25 PM
No need for that. Karlovic is a great player, and when he plays like he did today he's close to impossible to beat. You can give props to Federer without insulting his opponent's physical characteristics...

That's impossible for many of the Fedtards on here.

Voo de Mar
07-31-2008, 09:25 PM
JesusFed:

http://foro.noticias3d.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/jesuskreuz.gif

Oh my god! Drastically :devil: I'm afraid Federer doesn't deserve for such brutal treatment ;)

Eden
07-31-2008, 09:27 PM
Bloody awful, though entirely expected result. Roger has turned into the ultimate mug in just a few months. No getting back frm this. Watch the mono talk creep its way back to his interviews :rolleyes:

Well it's time then to officially announce that you will follow other players on the tour now and stop pretending that you are a fan of this mug.

It's no surprise that you expected this result. You are worrying about Roger's matches for a long time on GM now.

It's just sad to see people, who supported Roger through his winning days, turn their back to him once he has a difficult season.

hablovah19
07-31-2008, 09:27 PM
Poor Roger.

Maybe now that he will lose his #1 ranking, he will find some motivation, tweek his game or have less pressure on his shoulders to maintain such a high level of tennis. It's amazing he's been able to last at #1 for four years.

It will be weird and interesting to see how Nadal fares in his position now. :shrug:

Pfloyd
07-31-2008, 09:27 PM
So Nadal is no.1 by the time the US Open comes, no matter what happens?

BodyServe
07-31-2008, 09:28 PM
Congrats Ivo for the 2nd best win of your career!
He was serving better and better as the match progressed.(in efficiency, not %)

Karlovic's backhand was even more hilarious in this match.

Yet, not to many players can say they have a slice as good as his slice.

Karolina_Sprem
07-31-2008, 09:28 PM
Oh My Lord... After this lost we can FINALLY say that Federer doesn't deserve to be a No 1... I mean ... to lose against Karlovic... so funny... I'm Croatian but ALSO I know that Karlovic is a mug who can only serve and thats it from his "game" :D

platinum
07-31-2008, 09:29 PM
I am sad about Fed but furious cuz of Thing.

You have become such a troll lately.. calling Rafito the thing and all.. You used to be one of the best posters some months ago... :o:rolleyes:

CyBorg
07-31-2008, 09:34 PM
Roger's backhand = crap, crap, crap

Roger's return game = pure garbage

Roger's forehand = fairly consistent and the only thing he could rely on, but it was painful to watch him run around his backhand the whole time and overwork the forehand

Roger's serve = fairly solid, but made look better than Karlovic's incompetent return game .. notice that Roger didn't get enough freebie points .. not only does he not have a backhand, his once great serve is now ordinary

Manon
07-31-2008, 09:37 PM
You have become such a troll lately.. calling Rafito the thing and all.. You used to be one of the best posters some months ago... :o:rolleyes:

Coz of Rafa I was one of...? I thought we are grown up enough. You and me are not Novak or Rafa or Federer...

See now how Faker or whatever looks?

RogandyFan
07-31-2008, 09:40 PM
Poor fed,

He needs to win to get his confidence, but he also needs the confidence to win. Hope he gets it back somehow.

platinum
07-31-2008, 09:41 PM
Coz of Rafa I was one of...? I thought we are grown up enough. You and me are not Novak or Rafa or Federer...

See now how Faker or whatever looks?

I'm not the one calling him faker....:o

bjurra
07-31-2008, 09:41 PM
Karlovic was always a tough nut for Federer. It's only necessary to see the past results:

6-3 7-6 7-6
6-7 6-3 7-6
7-6 7-6
7-6 7-6
6-3 4-6 6-3
7-6 6-3


Now the match was once again close and Ivo has finally defeated Federer!

Truly deserved. Now win it all! :yeah:

Tough nut? Fed had won 89% of the tiebreakers against Ivo. But that was back in the days when he had confidencr.

mdjenders
07-31-2008, 09:41 PM
great effort from ivo, a well deserved win. people who call ivo "all serve" are lame. that comment was valid before when he was scuttling around outside the top 40, but he has clearly worked very hard to improve his net and baseline game, and the results show that the work is paying off. he volleyed very well today, and while his topspin backhand is still awful, that slice was really effective and got him some big points. the a-holes booing him after the match should be ashamed.

Manon
07-31-2008, 09:43 PM
I'm not the one calling him faker....:o

You know I can't - 'You must spread...':)

safinalium
07-31-2008, 09:45 PM
Unbelievable. Long live the king, very soon we'll oficially have a new number 1.:wavey:

Who would believe in the end of last year that things could change so much?!

Voo de Mar
07-31-2008, 09:45 PM
great effort from ivo, a well deserved win. people who call ivo "all serve" are lame.

I called him yesterday "all serve player" in Andreev-Isner thread. I appreciate Karlovic's development, he has improved his volley, forehand and backhand slice but the serve (1st serve) is still his biggest weapon. Never in doubt.

~*BGT*~
07-31-2008, 09:47 PM
His losses aren't even funny anymore.

Snoo Foo
07-31-2008, 09:49 PM
I am so happy for Il Divo and his railroad-spike-serve, he had to get one of these after so many close losses. His groundies make my eyes bleed but today he kept his pimp hand strong when it mattered the most. :yeah:

ASP0315
07-31-2008, 09:53 PM
I called him yesterday "all serve player" in Andreev-Isner thread. I appreciate Karlovic's development, he has improved his volley, forehand and backhand slice but the serve (1st serve) is still his biggest weapon. Never in doubt.

i know you didn't mean that. ;)

Myrre
07-31-2008, 09:59 PM
Federer is supposed to step it up at key moments, but now he just gets tight. Typical for a player without confidence.

Damn
07-31-2008, 10:00 PM
Oh my god! Drastically :devil: I'm afraid Federer doesn't deserve for such brutal treatment ;)

It was just a smilie :devil:, but one which matches especially good with the "JesusFed" nickname.

cardio
07-31-2008, 10:01 PM
What happens to Karlovic rankings now ? He made only 5 points from last year Cincy, now he is in QF and Kohli seems to be beatable. Will he be in top20 after last years Canada and Cincy points go off?

green25814
07-31-2008, 10:03 PM
as a fed fan, all i can say is :help:

adee-gee
07-31-2008, 10:09 PM
Really sad to see Federer struggle like this :sad:

~*BGT*~
07-31-2008, 10:15 PM
Really sad to see Federer struggle like this :sad:

I actually agree. :eek: The loss to Simon was kinda sad, I thought he was punking out versus Ginepri, but this loss is kinda pathetic. :o

tangerine_dream
07-31-2008, 10:19 PM
His losses aren't even funny anymore.
Roger's losses have jumped the shark.

RafaTheBest
07-31-2008, 10:21 PM
I still think they are hilarious! I enjoyed every second of his loss to Ivo! :worship:

dylan24
07-31-2008, 10:24 PM
retire you has been roger

adee-gee
07-31-2008, 10:26 PM
There was only one all serve mug on court today, and he wasn't Croatian :sport:

Montego
07-31-2008, 10:26 PM
What happens to Karlovic rankings now ? He made only 5 points from last year Cincy, now he is in QF and Kohli seems to be beatable. Will he be in top20 after last years Canada and Cincy points go off?


Should be ca. 17th if he loses to Kohlschreiber and ca. 13th if he wins. If he gets to the final - most probably will be No.12 and a win will give him nothing more. 90% sure according to my estimations.

RedFury
07-31-2008, 10:27 PM
You're wrong.

No points come off this week because of the Olympic schedule. Nadal needs to win to be #1 on Monday.


He'll definitely be #1 before the US Open, whatever happens.

Quite correct. By August 18th (I'm sure you know why as a tennis fan), barring an unforeseeable miracle, Nadal will be NUMBER ONE. Not a fan of miracles...

ASP0315
07-31-2008, 10:27 PM
ivo clocked the serve upto 148 mph.
he got 140mph + serves several times.(especially in the TB.)
those are pretty difficult to return .(even for fed.) when that serve is coming from accurate angle.

~*BGT*~
07-31-2008, 10:29 PM
Roger's losses have jumped the shark.

Maybe we'll all wake up and find that it was just a dream. ;)

BigJohn
07-31-2008, 10:29 PM
If Federer qualifies as a mug after making 2 GS finals, than pretty much the whole field is made of mugs. Some people sure sound like Goth kids when they talk about Federer: he's done, a mug, should retire...

Karlovic finaly won one after many close matchs against Fed. Much like Roddick did earlier in the year.

Snoo Foo
07-31-2008, 10:31 PM
Some people sure sound like Goth kids when they talk about Federer: he's done, a mug, should retire...

Wow where have I been, I had no idea Goth kids were so into tennis.

~Maya~
07-31-2008, 10:33 PM
No need for that. Karlovic is a great player, and when he plays like he did today he's close to impossible to beat. You can give props to Federer without insulting his opponent's physical characteristics...


I don't think that he was insulting Karlovic here. And personally I don't find anything wrong with Ivo's appearance

Goget
07-31-2008, 10:35 PM
3 sets
2 "all serve" players
1 boring match

nashty
07-31-2008, 10:39 PM
One match winning streak ended. How bad can it get?

Bug
07-31-2008, 10:40 PM
Thanks Ivo!!:yeah:

scoobs
07-31-2008, 10:46 PM
Only 12 pages in 2 hours -things really are getting serious. I remember when his losses could get to 20 pages in the first hour alone

A barometer of his sad decline...

GlennMirnyi
07-31-2008, 10:48 PM
Frauderer what a joker. For f***'s sake.

GlennMirnyi
07-31-2008, 10:52 PM
Well it's time then to officially announce that you will follow other players on the tour now and stop pretending that you are a fan of this mug.

It's no surprise that you expected this result. You are worrying about Roger's matches for a long time on GM now.

It's just sad to see people, who supported Roger through his winning days, turn their back to him once he has a difficult season.

98% of Frauderer's fans are gloryhunters.

Pepi.
07-31-2008, 10:58 PM
:sad:

leng jai
07-31-2008, 11:01 PM
Federer is flying under the radar, smart tactics if you ask me.

Corey Feldman
07-31-2008, 11:02 PM
Roger's entire game and mind just needs a MOT

he's gonna need to find something quick or he's gonna slip away into mediocrity ala Hewitt, Ferrero, Safin, Roddick

but things are not going his way at all this year

last week he drew a grinder on a slow Canadian court and when we get to the faster tournament he draws Karlovic serving 140MPH+ bombs every game

habibko
07-31-2008, 11:02 PM
it would be very ironic if Nadal couldn't make it to the final or lost it therefore lost his chance for #1 and then Fed gets a good run in the olympics and US open which gives him his confidence back and so Rafa would have lost his opportunity to finally be no 1 when it was finally in his hands, now that would really suck :o

I do believe he will get the no 1 sooner or later, but this scenario is very likely you know :angel:

back to the match, well you all said it, Rog played well but lacked that mental edge over Ivo which he normally had, and the matches where VERY close when he had it.

Lucinda
07-31-2008, 11:02 PM
I'm glad Roger lost, only because I'm a Nadal fan and I want him to have a shot at the #1 spot. But Roger's such a great player that even if he doesn't get back to his top form, he's still got a few years of winning tournaments ahead of him. His career is far from over, unless he chooses it to be.

adee-gee
07-31-2008, 11:10 PM
but things are not going his way at all this year

last week he drew a grinder on a slow Canadian court and when we get to the faster tournament he draws Karlovic serving 140MPH+ bombs every game
When all else fails, complain about the draw ;) :hug:

Come on man, Simon and Karlovic are both pigeons, just admit he's in a slump.

GlennMirnyi
07-31-2008, 11:13 PM
Frauderer is showing what a freaking wussy he is. Sampras would never quit it just because he lost a match more embarassing than having a prostate exam.

Corey Feldman
07-31-2008, 11:16 PM
When all else fails, complain about the draw ;) :hug:

Come on man, Simon and Karlovic are both pigeons, just admit he's in a slump.I know he's in a slump

basically i was saying every single thing that could go against him is happening

no Seppi's or Serra's in his draws either

remember how close Karlovic was to beating Rafatito at queens as well

and along with Rotterdam... queens and cinci are probably the only 3 fastest of "fast" courts tournaments left thesedays

ASP0315
07-31-2008, 11:18 PM
I know he's in a slump

basically i was saying every single thing that could go against him is happening

no Seppi's or Serra's in his draws either

remember how close Karlovic was to beating Rafatito at queens as well

and along with Rotterdam... queens and cinci are probably the only 3 fastest of "fast" courts tournaments left thesedays

how about San Jose, Basel, stockholm, nottingham and Vienna (all superfast indoor surfaces with the exception of nottigham.)?

GlennMirnyi
07-31-2008, 11:21 PM
I know he's in a slump

basically i was saying every single thing that could go against him is happening

no Seppi's or Serra's in his draws either

remember how close Karlovic was to beating Rafatito at queens as well

and along with Rotterdam... queens and cinci are probably the only 3 fastest of "fast" courts tournaments left thesedays

Don't make excuses... be honest with yourself. Frauderer is a wussy. First adversity - crumbles.

GlennMirnyi
07-31-2008, 11:23 PM
how about San Jose, Basel, stockholm, nottingham and Vienna (all superfast indoor surfaces with the exception of nottigham.)?

Nottingham nope. Vienna is slow.

Lucinda
07-31-2008, 11:26 PM
Only 12 pages in 2 hours -things really are getting serious. I remember when his losses could get to 20 pages in the first hour alone

A barometer of his sad decline...

This is such an accurate observation. It really says a lot in the scheme of things re: Roger and our expectations of him.

fast_clay
07-31-2008, 11:29 PM
another 3 set thriller...

...bought to you by The Mug Squad...

Corey Feldman
07-31-2008, 11:29 PM
Don't make excuses... be honest with yourself. Frauderer is a wussy. First adversity - crumbles.I believe he can rise again like a phoenix from the ashes

but he needs to fix a few things and admit a few things to himself as well

GlennMirnyi
07-31-2008, 11:32 PM
I believe he can rise again like a phoenix from the ashes

but he needs to fix a few things and admit a few things to himself as well

Big deal, he's screwed everything already. He should have done that after losing that AO SF.

adee-gee
07-31-2008, 11:45 PM
I know he's in a slump

basically i was saying every single thing that could go against him is happening

no Seppi's or Serra's in his draws either

remember how close Karlovic was to beating Rafatito at queens as well

and along with Rotterdam... queens and cinci are probably the only 3 fastest of "fast" courts tournaments left thesedays
Federer should never lose to guys like Simon and Karlovic, a year ago they would've been perfect draws for him. Fact is almost any decent player has chances against him these days, Seppi could probably trouble him with his consistency. Serra possibly not :lol:

Snoo Foo
07-31-2008, 11:47 PM
Cut Roger some slack, he's gathering information.

enzogiovanni
07-31-2008, 11:50 PM
OK...I'll try to be a smart-ass as some of the menstennis.com idiots who AFTER the match post pearls of wisdom such as: "Never in doubt".

So here it is: NEVER IN DOUBT. :cool:

Sometime Roger had to lose some tie-breaks against Dr.Ivo..and he did.
Farewell former No 1.

Dr.Ivo: excellent job, now lets take this opportunity to reach the final.

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madmax
07-31-2008, 11:52 PM
Roger's entire game and mind just needs a MOT

he's gonna need to find something quick or he's gonna slip away into mediocrity ala Hewitt, Ferrero, Safin, Roddick

but things are not going his way at all this year

last week he drew a grinder on a slow Canadian court and when we get to the faster tournament he draws Karlovic serving 140MPH+ bombs every game

This is exactly why I fell sorry for Roger...it looks like when things go wrong, they do it worst possible way...First of all playing confident counterpuncher Simon in slow Toronto and then having to play 140+ Mph Monsterserve Karlovic in very fast Cinci...whereas Nadal barely has any resistance from likes of Serra and etc...seems like they all surrender even before match starts

enzogiovanni
07-31-2008, 11:57 PM
Federer lost the intangible mental edge over players like Karlovic. Before they had close matches but you knew Fed was going to win in the end. Now players like Ivo lost him the respect they had and play the big points freely.
So...let me summarize: Federer loses agaist Simon and now everybody thinks Roger is their bitch?
Pathethic...I suppose everybody thought Roger was their bitch after he lost in succession to Canas and Nalbandian last year, right?

BTW, Dr Ivo NEVER choked agaist anybody.
YOu are projecting your wishes.
Reality is another thing. Sometime Roger HAD to lose some tie-breaks against Dr.Ivo. It happened today. Deal with it.

PS: Roger played WELL!

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*Viva Chile*
08-01-2008, 12:09 AM
Federer is done, lamentably...

Fed Era is dead, RIP :sad: :hug:

littleash
08-01-2008, 12:11 AM
roger :smash:

Corey Feldman
08-01-2008, 12:12 AM
Federer should never lose to guys like Simon and Karlovic, a year ago they would've been perfect draws for him. Fact is almost any decent player has chances against him these days, Seppi could probably trouble him with his consistency. Serra possibly not :lol:How long ago was Wimbledon? not that long.. and look how he played there - so its not as if he's lost the plot... i wonder about his motivation for any event other than the Slams (and the olympics looming as well) .. he could have easily won both these matches imo .. especially last week.. but basically invited defeat upon himself.

dont forget at one stage of that Wimb final he was in a phase where he went 7-6 7-6 4-3 and break point - v. new and improved Nadal monster

a helluva lost closer and more of a fight than any other worthless gimp who plays Nadal thesedays

why he is not doing it right now, who really knows.

GlennMirnyi
08-01-2008, 12:17 AM
How long ago was Wimbledon? not that long.. and look how he played there - so its not as if he's lost the plot... i wonder about his motivation for any event other than the Slams (and the olympics looming as well) .. he could have easily won both these matches imo .. especially last week.. but basically invited defeat upon himself.

dont forget at one stage of that Wimb final he was in a phase where he went 7-6 7-6 4-3 and break point - v. new and improved Nadal monster

a helluva lost closer and more of a fight than any other worthless gimp who plays Nadal thesedays

why he is not doing it right now, who really knows.

If you think it's normal for any semi-decent player to lose two sets to Nadull in Wimbledon, then...

Mario000
08-01-2008, 12:26 AM
well done Ivo

Tennis Fool
08-01-2008, 12:27 AM
Falling to Dr. Ivo is better than falling to Ginepri, I guess :shrug:

Corey Feldman
08-01-2008, 12:28 AM
If you think it's normal for any semi-decent player to lose two sets to Nadull in Wimbledon, then...Well we need to remember that Wimbledon after 4 days - the court is practically a fast high bouncy clay court

Fed gave his all to save the sport but it was not to be

Alonsofz
08-01-2008, 12:28 AM
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Spartan Ivo :worship:

JeffCandoi
08-01-2008, 12:30 AM
Ivo > Fed

GlennMirnyi
08-01-2008, 12:31 AM
Well we need to remember that Wimbledon after 4 days - the court is practically a fast high bouncy clay court

Fed gave his all to save the sport but it was not to be

Gave his all? He played one of the dumbest matches tactically in the history of sport.

FedFan_2007
08-01-2008, 12:35 AM
Glenn - what would Federer have to do to satisfy you? Maybe he reached his full potential. Nadal was simply destined for greater heights(16-20 slams, #1 for 400 weeks, 80 titles, etc...)

JeffCandoi
08-01-2008, 12:37 AM
the world is not how we dream :shrug:

Voo de Mar
08-01-2008, 12:40 AM
Glenn - what would Federer have to do to satisfy you? Maybe he reached his full potential. Nadal was simply destined for greater heights(16-20 slams, #1 for 400 weeks, 80 titles, etc...)

If Nadal is a modern version of Borg, he will be done in 2012 without such amazing achievements ;)

Ays25
08-01-2008, 01:10 AM
federer woud be just an average top 30 player if he played on the best era; 1984 to 2000, win a slam or two at most.
overrated swiss cheese :)

Smash.
08-01-2008, 01:21 AM
Please retire Roger, you are just embarrassing yourself :wavey:

Voo de Mar
08-01-2008, 01:28 AM
Please retire Roger, you are just embarrassing yourself :wavey:

:lol:

It's too early to retire but Federer's announces from last year about his plans to play until 2014 or 2016 seem to be useless. It's easy to say these things when you win tournament every week, not when you lose week by week to Simon and Karlovic and your biggest rival hammers everybody :)

GlennMirnyi
08-01-2008, 01:29 AM
Glenn - what would Federer have to do to satisfy you? Maybe he reached his full potential. Nadal was simply destined for greater heights(16-20 slams, #1 for 400 weeks, 80 titles, etc...)

Why don't you ask the mods to change your nickname to NadullFan_2008?

fast_clay
08-01-2008, 01:41 AM
nadal.... simon... karlovic...

this has all the hallmarks of an acute case of Muggonucleosis...

hard to shake that Muggo sh!t...

moon language
08-01-2008, 01:54 AM
Cut Roger some slack, he's gathering information.

:lol:

Bernard Black
08-01-2008, 02:00 AM
Just bad luck for Federer, Karlovic would most likely have beaten anyone in the world today. Will be funny if he plays like a mug in the next round though, as I suspect he will.

fast_clay
08-01-2008, 02:03 AM
How long ago was Wimbledon? not that long.. and look how he played there - so its not as if he's lost the plot... i wonder about his motivation for any event other than the Slams (and the olympics looming as well) .. he could have easily won both these matches imo .. especially last week.. but basically invited defeat upon himself.

dont forget at one stage of that Wimb final he was in a phase where he went 7-6 7-6 4-3 and break point - v. new and improved Nadal monster

a helluva lost closer and more of a fight than any other worthless gimp who plays Nadal thesedays

why he is not doing it right now, who really knows.

Is Roger the new Thomas The Tank Engine...?




for one second, lets go that way of thinking mate...

there may be a chance Roger now considers masters series as Mickey Mouse tournaments... in view of his already sh!te year... what point are these tourneys...? perhaps it is a case of walking thru these tourneys at half pace, use no emotional energy... and become the ultimate undetectable tank artist...

Lourdes
08-01-2008, 02:03 AM
Awesome result. Well earned victory by Karlovic!

leng jai
08-01-2008, 02:05 AM
Pretty sure Nadull wouldn't have won this match either with Dr Ivo's ridonkulous serving stats.

luie
08-01-2008, 02:09 AM
Pretty sure Nadull wouldn't have won this match either with Dr Ivo's ridonkulous serving stats.
YEP. Watching nadal play today....he wouldn't have won today against karlovic.

Regenbogen
08-01-2008, 02:11 AM
Ugh...is it worse if Federer sucks and loses, or plays decently and loses? :help:

I was practically certain he'd pull it out and I was pretty shocked when he couldn't come back in the tiebreak.

LBrock44
08-01-2008, 02:17 AM
You guys who have been waiting five years to start dissing Federer crack me up. He's one (if not the) of the greatest ever, and yet here you are writing him off. Let's see what you say when he gets back on form. For those of you who actually know tennis history: ALL of the greats have had bad stretches, some of them lasting a few years. Fed has played like crap the past seven months. To write him off already is showing a serious lack of understanding of the game.

But hey, you've been waiting a long time for this, so have fun while it lasts.

finishingmove
08-01-2008, 02:22 AM
Pretty sure Nadull wouldn't have won this match either with Dr Ivo's ridonkulous serving stats.

YEP. Watching nadal play today....he wouldn't have won today against karlovic.

yup. rod laver and pete sampras fused together with optimus prime would not have defeated karlovic today.

prima donna
08-01-2008, 02:25 AM
You guys who have been waiting five years to start dissing Federer crack me up. He's one (if not the) of the greatest ever, and yet here you are writing him off. Let's see what you say when he gets back on form. For those of you who actually know tennis history: ALL of the greats have had bad stretches, some of them lasting a few years. Fed has played like crap the past seven months. To write him off already is showing a serious lack of understanding of the game.

But hey, you've been waiting a long time for this, so have fun while it lasts.
Well, if Nadal doesn't win the U.S Open and Federer miraculously is able to defend his title, this board is going to get nasty. One can only hope that the moderators won't decide to impose bans when the false allegations of racism start being carelessly thrown around.

Most of Nadal's fans are below average when it comes to trolling, as their trolling abilities are merely a reflection of their intellect, conversely, a significant percentage of Roger's fans are able to express their thoughts more clearly, which means that snobbery, racism and other nonsense will become the topic of discussion as soon as the favor is returned.

In any case, Nadal had better win and Roger had better lose, otherwise there will be the equivalent of an MTF riot -- I'm not suggesting that I'd do such a thing, but I'm sure many people are going to have some very nasty responses once Roger returns to form, animosity is only building and ultimately will prove disastrous.

It's only tennis, but it's no longer tennis when even his girlfriend is being targeted.

fast_clay
08-01-2008, 02:31 AM
Well, if Nadal doesn't win the U.S Open and Federer miraculously is able to defend his title, this board is going to get nasty. One can only hope that the moderators won't decide to impose bans when the false allegations of racism start being carelessly thrown around.

Most of Nadal's fans are below average when it comes to trolling, as their trolling abilities are merely a reflection of their intellect, conversely, a significant percentage of Roger's fans are able to express their thoughts more clearly, which means that snobbery, racism and other nonsense will become the topic of discussion as soon as the favor is returned.

In any case, Nadal had better win and Roger had better lose, otherwise there will be the equivalent of an MTF riot -- I'm not suggesting that I'd do such a thing, but I'm sure many people are going to have some very nasty responses once Roger returns to form, animosity is only building and ultimately will prove disastrous.

It's only tennis, but it's no longer tennis when even his girlfriend is being targeted.

are we talking mass expulsions...? a 'clean-up' of epic proportions...?

perhaps the General Messages section should be renamed 'Toilet'...

Clay Death
08-01-2008, 02:33 AM
Well, if Nadal doesn't win the U.S Open and Federer miraculously is able to defend his title, this board is going to get nasty. One can only hope that the moderators won't decide to impose bans when the false allegations of racism start being carelessly thrown around.

Most of Nadal's fans are below average when it comes to trolling, as their trolling abilities are merely a reflection of their intellect, conversely, a significant percentage of Roger's fans are able to express their thoughts more clearly, which means that snobbery, racism and other nonsense will become the topic of discussion as soon as the favor is returned.

In any case, Nadal had better win and Roger had better lose, otherwise there will be the equivalent of an MTF riot -- I'm not suggesting that I'd do such a thing, but I'm sure many people are going to have some very nasty responses once Roger returns to form, animosity is only building and ultimately will prove disastrous.

It's only tennis, but it's no longer tennis when even his girlfriend is being targeted.


so says the politics pushing trolling legend. troll on and just pray that you have a market for your garbage. i dont see it.

prima donna
08-01-2008, 02:38 AM
are we talking mass expulsions...? a 'clean-up' of epic proportions...?

perhaps the General Messages section should be renamed 'Toilet'...
Moderators should control the masses without imposing absolute censorship, it's the only way to prevent the absolute erosion of MTF once the player being bashed [player a] starts to win again and the player winning like crazy starts to lose [player b] and as a result, player A's fans become vindictive and things get completely out of hand.

I understand the importance of political correctness in General Messages, so it won't be coming from my part. Anyway, fair is fair: player B's fans are bashing, so let's hope that player A's fans are allowed the same right when the appropriate time comes.

Anyone familiar with General Messages knows that Federer's supporters and Nadal's supporters have been involved in some of the more serious verbal altercations that have escalated to levels never before imagined -- especially on a tennis forum and I'm talking your average fan, not your regulars.

Mimi
08-01-2008, 02:39 AM
:haha::bowdown:so says the politics pushing trolling legend. troll on and just pray that you have a market for your garbage. i dont see it.

guga2120
08-01-2008, 02:44 AM
Well, if Nadal doesn't win the U.S Open and Federer miraculously is able to defend his title, this board is going to get nasty. One can only hope that the moderators won't decide to impose bans when the false allegations of racism start being carelessly thrown around.

Most of Nadal's fans are below average when it comes to trolling, as their trolling abilities are merely a reflection of their intellect, conversely, a significant percentage of Roger's fans are able to express their thoughts more clearly, which means that snobbery, racism and other nonsense will become the topic of discussion as soon as the favor is returned.

In any case, Nadal had better win and Roger had better lose, otherwise there will be the equivalent of an MTF riot -- I'm not suggesting that I'd do such a thing, but I'm sure many people are going to have some very nasty responses once Roger returns to form, animosity is only building and ultimately will prove disastrous.

It's only tennis, but it's no longer tennis when even his girlfriend is being targeted.

:lol::lol: :retard:

jcempire
08-01-2008, 02:44 AM
Fed is over, NOW it's time up for Nadal and DJok and rest of young telants

Clay Death
08-01-2008, 02:50 AM
:haha::bowdown:

if you take a good look at that garbage, prima trolla is actually trying to start a war between nadal fans and fed fans.

how sad and how so truly pathetic.

Lillith
08-01-2008, 02:51 AM
Federer is flying under the radar, smart tactics if you ask me.


Yes, the losses are all intentional so that he has very few points to defend next year and can come back and set a new points record. As is typical, MTF posters don't recognize Federer's brilliant plan.








Seriously though, this wasn't that bad of a loss. As you also said in another post, Nadal also would have had a hard time with Karlovic today. Karlovic was serving like mad, Federer was never broken, won more points and still lost the match. So of course after such a tight match, Federer should retire. Ok.

That's not to say that Federer's playing great tennis, or that he doesn't have some things to work on over the next months, however.

Rafa = Fed Killa
08-01-2008, 02:51 AM
98% of Frauderer's fans are gloryhunters.

Never in doubt.

Mimi
08-01-2008, 02:52 AM
yeah, the one who is writing garbage is him, you didn't see how he insulted nadal before, now saying others insult roger? ;)
if you take a good look at that garbage, prima trolla is actually trying to start a war between nadal fans and fed fans.

how sad and how so truly pathetic.

Sunset of Age
08-01-2008, 02:53 AM
Why don't you ask the mods to change your nickname to NadullFan_2008?

EW already dubbed him/her/it 'Fedmoron_2007'
And judging on his/her/its latest posts, that is spot on. :angel:

prima donna
08-01-2008, 02:53 AM
if you take a good look at that garbage, prima trolla is actually trying to start a war between nadal fans and fed fans.

how sad and how so truly pathetic.
Nothing seems to escape you, you're quite observant -- now that my devised plan has been unclothed and exposed as merely a plot to incite cyber warfare, I must hide my head in shame.

Rafa = Fed Killa
08-01-2008, 02:55 AM
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Spartan Ivo :worship:

VAMOS :D

prima donna
08-01-2008, 02:59 AM
yeah, the one who is writing garbage is him, you didn't see how he insulted nadal before, now saying others insult roger? ;)
I've spent months entranced in a state of adulation for Nadal's improved game and to be quite honest, I never expected Roger to win Wimbledon with Nadal on the other side of the net.

Go review my posts if you have any doubts, aside from speculation of possible cheating, I've absolutely lauded Nadal.

Roger is one hell of a tennis player, it's annoying to see him being treated like Andy Roddick or some other mediocre player, he's a legend and deserves better than this.

Sunset of Age
08-01-2008, 02:59 AM
98% of Frauderer's fans are gloryhunters.

Count me out, and Eden as well. :cool:

Rafa = Fed Killa
08-01-2008, 03:01 AM
I've spent months entranced in a state of adulation for Nadal's game and to be quite honest, I never expected Roger to win Wimbledon with Nadal on the other side of the net.

Go review my posts if you have any doubts, aside from speculation of possible cheating, I've absolutely lauded Nadal.

Roger is one hell of a tennis player, it's annoying to see him being treated like Andy Roddick or some other mediocre player, he's a legend and deserves better than this.

Beating teenagers and dominating a joke era does not make a person a legend. As soon as Nadal hit his prime and Nole is one year away from his Federer is getting humiliated.

Legends are fighters, not pansy dancing clowns like Federer.

guga2120
08-01-2008, 03:04 AM
Roger is one hell of a tennis player, it's annoying to see him being treated like Andy Roddick or some other mediocre player, he's a legend and deserves better than this.

:crying2:

prima donna
08-01-2008, 03:06 AM
:crying2:
Almost as tragic as seeing Kuerten nearly reduced to wheelchair tennis.

Benny_Maths
08-01-2008, 03:08 AM
Frauderer is showing what a freaking wussy he is. Sampras would never quit it just because he lost a match more embarassing than having a prostate exam.

There's much talk about Sampras' mental strength and Federer's weak mentality. But back in '98 in Miami R3, Sampras won the first set 6-0, lost the second 7-6 and then went on to lose the match. Is that your paradigm of mental strength? The fact is that any talk of mental strength by a non-professional player is at best an arbitrary hit and miss, biased empirical assessment of a player's character. There's no substance to back up any calls of mental strength/weakness. BTW I wouldn't call Federer a wussy. I mean, at least he didn't wimp out of a match after losing the first set 6-0/6-1 citing heat exhaustion as an excuse.;)

As for Federer dominating a joke era, what made that era so clownish? How is it that era different to this one?

Clay Death
08-01-2008, 03:11 AM
Beating teenagers and dominating a joke era does not make a person a legend. As soon as Nadal hit his prime and Nole is one year away from his Federer is getting humiliated.

Legends are fighters, not pansy dancing clowns like Federer.


affirmative. being surrounded by the likes of Blake, Gonzo, Baggy Man, Roddick, and a score of other one dimensional clowns doesnt make you a legend.

maybe thats why he tried so hard to convince everyone that he was the greatest ever.

far from the greatest ever. guys like Laver, Emmo, Borg, and the like are the greatest ever.

even Sampras with his 14 slams is far from the greatest ever. what a joke. he could not play on clay which means that if you took away his serve, he was average at best.

Mimi
08-01-2008, 03:15 AM
hey, be kind to my old pete, yes i do admit that he was helpless on clay, but his mental strength, serve, forehand, volley remains lengedary :bowdown::bowdown::inlove:
affirmative. being surrounded by the likes of Blake, Gonzo, Baggy Man, Roddick, and a score of other one dimensional clowns doesnt make you a legend.

maybe thats why he tried so hard to convince everyone that he was the greatest ever.

far from the greatest ever. guys like Laver, Emmo, Borg, and the like are the greatest ever.

even Sampras with his 14 slams is far from the greatest ever. what a joke. he could not play on clay which means that if you took away his serve, he was average at best.

prima donna
08-01-2008, 03:18 AM
affirmative. being surrounded by the likes of Blake, Gonzo, Baggy Man, Roddick, and a score of other one dimensional clowns doesnt make you a legend.

maybe thats why he tried so hard to convince everyone that he was the greatest ever.

far from the greatest ever. guys like Laver, Emmo, Borg, and the like are the greatest ever.

even Sampras with his 14 slams is far from the greatest ever. what a joke. he could not play on clay which means that if you took away his serve, he was average at best.
And if one were to take away Borg's forehand ? Taken away Laver's backhand ? How would they have fared ?