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Why people like 05's Blake and hate today's?

jcempire
07-30-2008, 07:34 PM
I saw people love 2005 Blake much more than today's. abviously, almost no one like him today

Sounds like people are looking for surprise and creative

05 Blake looks like a Brand New guy and you got surprise on him every time

but today, he is kind of older guy and absolute nothing NEW

Sunset of Age
07-30-2008, 07:37 PM
I think that a lot of people over here (including me), didn't take Blake's stance on the :retard: Round Robin-experiment back in 2007 (or was it 2006? time flies...) very well... ;)

Also, he has this irritating tendency to apply stupid tactics when playing his matches (mindless ball bashing).

I don't 'hate' him though. I don't 'hate' any player as I don't know them personally.

r2473
07-30-2008, 07:38 PM
People on this site don't like anyone (ballbasher, moonballer, pusher, choker, etc.).

The only player that is well liked around here is the new "flavor of the month". Blake was the the "flavor of the month" sometime in 2005 (especially after the loss to agassi in the US Open quarters).

Action Jackson
07-30-2008, 07:42 PM
Blake's impeccable image and the way he handled the RR fiasco in Las Vegas, when he was on the board that agreed to the rules before it started, therefore putting his own interests first.

Pfloyd
07-30-2008, 07:43 PM
I think it has to do more with sympathy.

He came back from his several accidents that happened a year or two back.

Also, he beat Nadal at the US Open, quite easily. No one had the winning forumla vs Nadal in 2005, he game the other players a "how to" match.

Now he's just a player who, despite me liking his gameplay, continually underachieves.

gusman890
07-30-2008, 07:45 PM
He was a comeback story. People like that, then once your back on the tour, no one cares anymore.

Ie: When Canas came back and beat Federer back to back everyone thought it was amazing. Then he started losing, then only the die hards still liked him.

Or when Isner showed up. MTF was CRAZY, thinking this guy could be beat Federer and how much damage he would do, yada yada being an improved Ivo and whatnot. 12 months later, hasn't done much to be honest.

That run he had in the summer of 05 was his best shot of making a GS final. I thought he would have made the final at least after the way he was playing, it was lights out. Then the typical chokejob kicked in and that is the end of that.

scarecrows
07-30-2008, 07:50 PM
it's called bandwagon jcempire, you should know that

if he beats nadal again or Federer or Djokovic for the first time many people will like him again

Fumus
07-30-2008, 07:53 PM
It's simple dood

MTF is fickle. MTF is like the press, praises for a player one moment and tearing them down the next. In 05' he was a great story, how could you not root for the guy?

...

James's numerous chokes and lack of results in the big matches annoy many fans(myself included). You know that if he does get a few big wins he won't finish the job. However, I would say James is much less hated than many other players...he simply doesn't win enough to polarize fans(like Nadal, Fed, Djoko). Most tennis fans including myself when it comes to Blake are like "meh".

Sebby
07-30-2008, 08:06 PM
I cheer for him against any player but Federer and Wawrinka.

Action Jackson
07-30-2008, 08:08 PM
This thread has all the answers covered.

ChinoRios4Ever
07-30-2008, 08:18 PM
2005: bandwagon fans and great history in the Blake's comeback

2007: he kill his clean image with the RR fiasco at Vegas

hope this helps...

GlennMirnyi
07-30-2008, 08:19 PM
Also in 2005 he was playing much better than nowadays.

Guy Haines
07-30-2008, 08:21 PM
This thread has all the answers covered.

Not quite yet --

Sore loser: rarely if ever acknowledges applause of crowd when leaving court after loss. Sometimes won't even look opponent in face during handshake (most recent ex.: Tursunov in Indy).

Smug winner: Davis Cup home ties last year. I think it inspired someone to start a thread of disgust here. Uses J. Block like its Davis Cup at the USO, when USO is a slam.

J-Block: They're horrible.

Ultimate Fedmug: didn't he win the honor?

Phoniness factor: especially re: "nice guy" image because of the above. Roddick is a tool on court (if only in the time-honored Connors tradition), but at least he's honest off court.

And yes, definitely the RR fiasco.

Otherwise, he's great! :lol: I'll admit my view of James is tainted by the fact that he used to whup Rafa. But when James beat him at the USO, it was a thrill because James was coming into his own and he'd faced so many terrible crises. He was sporting in victory and in defeat. Not so often the case since.

But maybe he'll come around. He's doing a better job of rebounding during matches instead of pouting when he's behind.

miura
07-30-2008, 10:23 PM
I've always thought of James Blake as an excellent player with an interesting and different game and incredible sportmanship. I would recommend you to read his book. It makes you get to know him a lot better and you get to know what is going on in is mind. It's also a very inspiring book, pro-golfer Suzann Pettersen even thought that.

JimmyV
07-30-2008, 11:05 PM
It's simple dood

MTF is fickle. MTF is like the press, praises for a player one moment and tearing them down the next. In 05' he was a great story, how could you not root for the guy?

...

James's numerous chokes and lack of results in the big matches annoy many fans(myself included). You know that if he does get a few big wins he won't finish the job. However, I would say James is much less hated than many other players...he simply doesn't win enough to polarize fans(like Nadal, Fed, Djoko). Most tennis fans including myself when it comes to Blake are like "meh".

Pretty much a perfect explanation.

dam0dred
07-30-2008, 11:10 PM
What what? What are you talking about? Who wouldn't love this guy?

http://cdn.harpercollins.com/harperimages/isbn/large/2/9780061537332.jpg

My hero. :worship:

ToniTennis
07-31-2008, 08:49 AM
People on this site don't like anyone (ballbasher, moonballer, pusher, choker, etc.).

Spot on :yeah:

cobalt60
07-31-2008, 12:53 PM
Liked him then, like him now.

Kolya
07-31-2008, 12:59 PM
Never liked him.

So arrogant and thinks he so good when he talks to umpires and lines people.

star
07-31-2008, 01:36 PM
James has gone through several incarnations for me.

I was interested in him when he first emerged on the Tour, and then was basically indifferent to him. I felt sympathetic when he went through his bad times, but never really warmed to him again when he came back and found his J-Block supporters a bit insufferable. I just never been excited by his game or his persona.

TMJordan
07-31-2008, 01:46 PM
James is a bitch.

tennizen
07-31-2008, 02:02 PM
I cannot find anything to like about Blake:tape: and never did

Beat
07-31-2008, 02:28 PM
People on this site don't like anyone

sadly, sometimes you could get the impression this is really true.

guille&tati4life
07-31-2008, 02:40 PM
Not quite yet --

Sore loser: rarely if ever acknowledges applause of crowd when leaving court after loss. Sometimes won't even look opponent in face during handshake (most recent ex.: Tursunov in Indy).

Smug winner: Davis Cup home ties last year. I think it inspired someone to start a thread of disgust here. Uses J. Block like its Davis Cup at the USO, when USO is a slam.

J-Block: They're horrible.

Ultimate Fedmug: didn't he win the honor?

Phoniness factor: especially re: "nice guy" image because of the above. Roddick is a tool on court (if only in the time-honored Connors tradition), but at least he's honest off court.

And yes, definitely the RR fiasco.


That sums it up pretty well.
Didn't like him when he was crap, didn't like him on his comeback and don't like him now.

alfonsojose
07-31-2008, 03:03 PM
People on this site don't like anyone (ballbasher, moonballer, pusher, choker, etc.).

The only player that is well liked around here is the new "flavor of the month". Blake was the the "flavor of the month" sometime in 2005 (especially after the loss to agassi in the US Open quarters).

Don't forget Safin. He can kill a ball boy on court and "that's so cool" :zzz:

MusicMyst
07-31-2008, 03:13 PM
It was the tennis press's love affair with Blake that has always annoyed me. They built him up into something he's not. He's just a powerful ball-hitter whose career will always be limited by his inability to think on his feet during a match and who takes himself way too seriously. Behind his pomposity and arrogance is just another good, but not great, player who will never get close to being a slam winner.

goodwoman
07-31-2008, 03:15 PM
Liked him then, like him now.

Same here. I have always been a fan, and that hasn't changed. He's my favorite player to watch, and he has always been polite and respectful to everyone when I've seen him at tournaments. His book is excellent, much better than I expected, and you really feel like you know him better after reading it. I saw him speak about his book, and my respect and admiration for him grew after that. He seems like a genuine person. Nobody's perfect, but I think he's one of the really good guys.

I don't get on this board very often, but I have to laugh at the venom that is spewed here. It amazes me that people have that much time on their hands to sit at a computer and criticize and hate people that they don't even know. But whatever. :shrug:

martinatreue
07-31-2008, 05:40 PM
Lord, the man is not endearing at all. It's one thing to be confident but he really is completely IN LOVE with himself and acts bitter when losing. No variety in his game at all and very pompous.

bambelbitz
08-20-2008, 07:42 PM
I rooted for James in 05 and I'm still rooting for him nowadays!!

Bad Religion
08-20-2008, 10:03 PM
Simply, The Mug

Jaap
08-20-2008, 10:05 PM
Hated him in 05, hate him today.

Hope this helps.

fast_clay
08-20-2008, 11:16 PM
Uni drop out who has been on the wrong end of too many top 10 mug battles...

ChinoRios4Ever
08-20-2008, 11:41 PM
I lost ALL respect for him on friday.

RafaTheBest
08-20-2008, 11:43 PM
I lost ALL respect for him on friday.

For telling the truth? Truth hurts doesn't it? Luckily for Tennis, Gonzalez got the beatdown he deserved in the final.

ChinoRios4Ever
08-20-2008, 11:48 PM
For telling the truth? Truth hurts doesn't it? Luckily for Tennis, Gonzalez got the beatdown he deserved in the final.

You want to start a fight here again. Blake IS A CRY BABY!!!. Hope this helps.

Once a bad loser, ALWAYS A BAD LOSER.

RafaTheBest
08-20-2008, 11:51 PM
You want to start a fight here again. Blake IS A CRY BABY!!!. Hope this helps.

Once a bad loser, ALWAYS A BAD LOSER.

Nah, no point in trying to convince someone who is so bullheaded they will never admit they are wrong!

bambelbitz
08-21-2008, 12:05 AM
It is always nice to see two people getting along!! No need to fight here guys. The Olympics are done!! James will give the right answer in the USO by beating Gonzalez when it comes to this match!

Albop
08-21-2008, 12:09 AM
Pussy crybaby.

bambelbitz
08-21-2008, 12:26 AM
Pussy crybaby.

Are you talking to me? Hey we don't have to argue about this, I want James to win and you want Fernando to win, it's as easy as that. I didn't want to start anything here, so don't use such words when you talk to me!!! Be a grown up for God's sake!!! You can control it if you want to but I didn't write anything about the olympic match, and if James isn't able to convert three match points he doesn't deserve to win. The past is the past, but he has a chance of reedeming himself at USO and if he has to battle Gonzalez, he will do whatever it takes to win it and I'm going to support him. Next time, think before you write!!!! :(:(:(

~Maya~
08-21-2008, 01:59 AM
I never disliked Blake. It's true, he is a sore loser but hey, he is an American, no? :lol:
I would have loved to see him win a medal since he played very well, but not instead of Novak. Sorry Blake :awww:

Albop
08-21-2008, 02:08 AM
Are you talking to me? Hey we don't have to argue about this, I want James to win and you want Fernando to win, it's as easy as that. I didn't want to start anything here, so don't use such words when you talk to me!!! Be a grown up for God's sake!!! You can control it if you want to but I didn't write anything about the olympic match, and if James isn't able to convert three match points he doesn't deserve to win. The past is the past, but he has a chance of reedeming himself at USO and if he has to battle Gonzalez, he will do whatever it takes to win it and I'm going to support him. Next time, think before you write!!!! :(:(:(

No :lol: :p

opeth84
08-21-2008, 04:27 AM
I don't hate him but i don't like him all that much either. He's fun to watch when he's playing well and not so great to watch when he's losing as he just digs himself a deeper hole with more an more stupid errors. And i don't think thats really any different to how he played in 05.

He seems like a nice guy but some of them very cold hand shakes after defeats and his on court attitude sometimes is disgusting which make me think twice about him. An example of this behavior was just a few weeks ago in Cincinnati in his match against Gulbis. Not a great attitude for a player that is on the older side of the spectrum of the tour.

JimmyV
08-21-2008, 04:39 AM
The dude's in this thread give Chileans a bad name.

Like it or not, as insignificant as it was or not, Gonzo still pulled a douchebag move.

Blake tried to milk it for all it was worth to cover up his choke job, and that was kind of pathetic but it still doesn't change the fact that Gonzo did it. Pretending something didn't happen and then trying to personally attack whoever brings it up because you have no defense for it other than to say it didn't matter and that whoever brought it up is whining is really pathetic. To be honest it makes you all look like a bunch of 3 year old's and reflects on you and your country poorly.

Lindsayfan
08-21-2008, 04:41 AM
I lost ALL respect for him on friday.

same for me; well some respect not all. His press conference was probably the worst I've ever heard, It even goes lower than Serena Williams and Patty Schnyder's press conference.

I hold that a true sport refrains from making imaginary rules and whining like a child after you lose fair and square

Lindsayfan
08-21-2008, 04:46 AM
The dude's in this thread give Chileans a bad name.

Like it or not, as insignificant as it was or not, Gonzo still pulled a douchebag move.

Blake tried to milk it for all it was worth to cover up his choke job, and that was kind of pathetic but it still doesn't change the fact that Gonzo did it. Pretending something didn't happen and then trying to personally attack whoever brings it up because you have no defense for it other than to say it didn't matter and that whoever brought it up is whining is really pathetic. To be honest it makes you all look like a bunch of 3 year old's and reflects on you and your country poorly.

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=7317184&postcount=3

:wavey:

~Maya~
08-21-2008, 04:48 AM
same for me; well some respect not all. His press conference was probably the worst I've ever heard, It even goes lower than Serena Williams and Patty Schnyder's press conference.

I hold that a true sport refrains from making imaginary rules and whining like a child after you lose fair and square

Can we read transcripts from the press conferences somewhere? I mean from all players not just Blake

~Maya~
08-21-2008, 04:49 AM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=7317184&postcount=3

:wavey:

Very good:yeah:

Lindsayfan
08-21-2008, 04:59 AM
Can we read transcripts from the press conferences somewhere? I mean from all players not just Blake

I'm not sure. I just used those two women, who are notorious for being sore losers, as an example. I can't remember any one press conference of theirs being as sore loserish as Blake's.

JimmyV
08-21-2008, 05:07 AM
Blake knows that he choked away a chance at a gold medal and isn't a big enough man to completely accept that fact, so he is being a sore loser and trying to use excuses so that he never has to fully acknowledge the fact that he himself is the only one to blame.

JimmyV
08-21-2008, 05:08 AM
When you shit your pants in public it's much easier to latch on to any excuse available than man up and admit what you've done.

General Suburbia
08-21-2008, 05:55 AM
Blake was the first player I saw live, I think it was right after he came back on the tour after all the problems he had. I really liked him in live cause of a very funny antic he showed during the tournament I went to (LA). He was disputing a line call with a judge, and when things weren't going his way, he suddenly went down on his knees, put his hands together and started begging the judge for an overrule.

It didn't work, obviously, but I thought it was hilarious.

He's not the underdog any more, so while I don't dislike him, he isn't someone I'll drool over.

Turquoise
08-21-2008, 07:44 AM
I like him. I just do, it's an affinity I have with certain people whether I know them or not. I admire how he's faced adversity and he's still around, entrenched in the top 10 - he must be doing something right, contrary to some people's opinions :p As a tennis player, he doesn't rate as high as my other favourites, but I'm impressed by his returns of serve and forehands which can be spectacular at times.

I didn't like the RR fiasco, and the J-block annoys me, but otherwise I think he's a great guy.

Morgan Z
08-21-2008, 08:31 AM
Can we read transcripts from the press conferences somewhere? I mean from all players not just Blake

Yes, sure. :)

http://www.asapsports.com/showcat.php?id=7&event=yes

They don't do all tournaments but most of the major ones. I'm sure that there are other sites like this but I don't know any right now.


The exact link to Blake's conference after the Gonzo match - http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=51629

tennis2018
08-21-2008, 10:45 AM
thanx 4 the link Morgan it was nice to hear both sides

DhammaTiger
08-21-2008, 03:07 PM
I never liked either version of Blake, 05 or 08.

Corey Feldman
08-21-2008, 03:38 PM
He looks a far more grumpy and unhappy person on the courts thesedays... and is quite the bad loser as well

he and Federer are the 2 players who look like they have fell out of love with the game - lets see if they ever get it back

~Maya~
08-21-2008, 03:52 PM
Yes, sure. :)

http://www.asapsports.com/showcat.php?id=7&event=yes

They don't do all tournaments but most of the major ones. I'm sure that there are other sites like this but I don't know any right now.


The exact link to Blake's conference after the Gonzo match - http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=51629

Thanks Morgan

MILOS
08-21-2008, 04:41 PM
I liked him more with those dreadlocks or whatever that hairstyle is called

SwiSha
08-21-2008, 04:44 PM
hated him in 05 just as much as i do know

goodwoman
08-22-2008, 01:09 AM
Thanks for the link, Morgan Z.

I hadn't seen or read his presser until now. It just confirms what I thought; James showed a lot of class. Sure, he was down and disappointed, but he wasn't being a crybaby at all, like many here claimed. He wasn't using the incident with Gonzalez as an excuse. He was just telling it like he saw it. He wasn't saying anywhere that that particular point changed the outcome of the match (although in reality, it could have). James is a class act. I liked him back a few years ago, and I like him even more now. Just my opinion.

Albop
08-22-2008, 02:56 AM
The dude's in this thread give Chileans a bad name.

Like it or not, as insignificant as it was or not, Gonzo still pulled a douchebag move.

Blake tried to milk it for all it was worth to cover up his choke job, and that was kind of pathetic but it still doesn't change the fact that Gonzo did it. Pretending something didn't happen and then trying to personally attack whoever brings it up because you have no defense for it other than to say it didn't matter and that whoever brought it up is whining is really pathetic. To be honest it makes you all look like a bunch of 3 year old's and reflects on you and your country poorly.

I've always through that Blake is a pussy. not just this week.

Jogy
08-22-2008, 05:58 PM
Blake had a sore loser reaction, but at least was right with it

and I lost all respect for Fernanda Gonzo Crapzalez for his big unfairness and LYING, just like for many other South American sport stars and society who made negative news with cheating, drugs, riots, ..,!