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Ancic, Wawrinka, Kiefer, Roddick out

Bilbo
07-28-2008, 09:52 PM
Is Ancic out?

Zirconek
07-28-2008, 09:53 PM
yes, he is, wll be replaced by Capdeville according to the news on TV

oranges
07-28-2008, 09:55 PM
What? Why?

MaryX
07-28-2008, 09:56 PM
I've heard he was ill, or something?!

Henry Chinaski
07-28-2008, 09:57 PM
stan is gone too

Sunset of Age
07-28-2008, 09:59 PM
:( - hopefully it's not an injury or anything else serious.

kalisita
07-28-2008, 10:01 PM
They said Ancic is ill without giving too much info on what exactly was wrong. Wawrinka out due to a bad knee. Murray is having knee problems too, but expects to play as of today. Have to wait and see who actually makes it to the court. :)

Stensland
07-28-2008, 10:03 PM
is rafa going to play?

Sunset of Age
07-28-2008, 10:04 PM
They said Ancic is ill without giving too much info on what exactly was wrong. Wawrinka out due to a bad knee. Murray is having knee problems too, but expects to play as of today. Have to wait and see who actually makes it to the court. :)

Oh dear. Shucks. :sad:

:secret: or are they all suddenly running off because they want to save energy for the Olympics? :devil:

oranges
07-28-2008, 10:05 PM
For Mario, someone mentioned reading in Rosengren's blog he was sick the entire week before Toronto, but he played doubles there for a few days, so he must have been OK.

Jaap
07-28-2008, 10:42 PM
I guess Clement and Capdeville knew there were going to be a few withdrawals, which is why they lost against some mugs in the qualies.

Albop
07-28-2008, 10:43 PM
So acasuso-capdeville at Grandstand? :

Manon
07-28-2008, 10:52 PM
This guy has no luck at all:( Acasuso-Capdeville?

ReturnWinner
07-28-2008, 10:53 PM
Acasuso-Capdeville?

yes, best match of the tournament. It should be moved to Central Court

SwiSha
07-28-2008, 10:55 PM
I guess Clement and Capdeville knew there were going to be a few withdrawals, which is why they lost against some mugs in the qualies.

makes sense, made good money on the side

Jaap
07-28-2008, 10:59 PM
makes sense, made good money on the side

Happened the same last week when Bjorkman played Tojo. Baghdatis had pulled out earlier in the day and with Tojo being the next in the line, we all know he wasn't going to win against his good mate Bjorkman.

Maybe the atp need a re-think of their lucky loser rules? I am not bothered, as long as Betfair keep on offering markets for qualifying matches. ;)

TankingTheSet
07-28-2008, 11:05 PM
I think you gamblers are getting a little too paranoid. It may happen occasionally, but not every surprise in the final round of qualifying is explained by that scenario. It's likely that someone like Ancic waited until today to withdraw.

Estrella showed some improvement recently although he is moderate, and Stoppini played very well recently in hardcourt challengers. These upsets were not totally out of the blue.

scoobs
07-28-2008, 11:08 PM
Well if the rules are the highest ranked players in the last round of qualifying automatically get any LL spots that come up, and they keep their ear to the ground in the locker room for withdrawal info, it certainly seems possible that some players won't really bother trying too hard to win the final match if they know the LL spot is there waiting.

Maybe they should do it as the slams do and have a draw out a defined pool of players for LL spots

finishingmove
07-29-2008, 04:18 AM
so what exactly happened to ancic ?

Iván
07-29-2008, 11:05 AM
http://www.sf.tv/piccache/webtool/data/pics/sportpano/te_wien_final_djoko_stan_szq_w173_h_m.jpg

Not sure why but he did get some treatment on his wrist vs Murray last week

Hope it aint too bad.

Arnie gets the Lucky Loser spot.

myrt
07-29-2008, 11:10 AM
Saw Wawrinka come into the venue Monday with an MRI under his arm and wondered what that was all about. Sorry to see him out.

Sebby
07-29-2008, 11:20 AM
I hope he'll recover in time for the Olympics.

ZakMcCrack
07-29-2008, 12:22 PM
http://www.sf.tv/piccache/webtool/data/pics/sportpano/te_wien_final_djoko_stan_szq_w173_h_m.jpg

Not sure why but he did get some treatment on his wrist vs Murray last week

Hope it aint too bad.

Arnie gets the Lucky Loser spot.

No, it was his right knee that started to hurt again, just like every time he switches surface from clay to hardcourt since he underwent surgery early last year. Stan stated it's not severely aching, though - he should be fine for the Olympic Games, at least that's what I hope ;-)

JolánGagó
07-29-2008, 12:26 PM
Poor guy, I wish him fast full recovery.

Not that the tourny will be much harmed though.

(I mean Wawrinka)

Henry Chinaski
07-29-2008, 12:34 PM
Estrella showed some improvement recently although he is moderate, and Stoppini played very well recently in hardcourt challengers. These upsets were not totally out of the blue.

You don't think that bagel looks suspicious?

Manon
07-29-2008, 01:35 PM
Poor guy, I wish him fast full recovery.

Not that the tourny will be much harmed though.

(I mean Wawrinka)

Same here.

Pepi.
07-29-2008, 02:08 PM
Ancic :sad:

jonny84
07-29-2008, 05:20 PM
Hope Stan is okay and his injury clears soon. Same to Ancic, hope he gets better soon.

KitinovRules
07-29-2008, 05:36 PM
Ancic is actually quite bad.
He is ill with high temperature and vomiting. The problem is that it last for two weeks.
He went to specialist in Cincinaty and the doctor instructed absolutely to stop any physical activities.
He is suspecting mono again.

This guy has bad luck.

Jelena
07-29-2008, 05:39 PM
what a crap if it's again mono. :smash: :sad:

KitinovRules
07-29-2008, 05:43 PM
what a crap if it's again mono. :smash: :sad:
I am almost sure that it is mono again.
Two weeks with high temperature , what kind of struggle for the body is that.

Mashachosen1
07-29-2008, 05:44 PM
Get well soon Stan

oranges
07-29-2008, 06:25 PM
I am almost sure that it is mono again.
Two weeks with high temperature , what kind of struggle for the body is that.

I thought you can't get mono twice :confused: Why was he playing in Toronto at all if he was sick? The last time he had mono it was severely aggravated because he played in the DC, thinking it was just a flu and even attempted to play a match in Marseilles or wherever his next tourny was.

I checked the Croatian sites, there is a short interview, but not much more info than already provided. Basically, he's awaiting results of the tests and hoping to be fit for the Olympics. I really hope it's nothing serious, he's had more than a fair share of bad luck already :sad:

KitinovRules
07-29-2008, 06:28 PM
I thought you can't get mono twice :confused: Why was he playing in Toronto at all if he was sick? The last time he had mono it was severely aggravated because he played in the DC, thinking it was just a flu and even attempted to play a match in Marseilles or wherever his next tourny was.

I checked the Croatian sites, there is a short interview, but not much more info than already provided. Basically, he's awaiting results of the tests and hoping to be fit for the Olympics. I really hope it's nothing serious, he's had more than a fair share of bad luck already :sad:
Of course, you couldn't get mono twice but it can make a lot of problems long time after it.
With nausea, headaches- but two weeks with higher temperature is very, very worrying.

Jelena
07-29-2008, 06:40 PM
Of course, you couldn't get mono twice but it can make a lot of problems long time after it.
With nausea, headaches- but two weeks with higher temperature is very, very worrying.
You're contradicting yourself there. When I said: "What a crap if it's again mono" you said, "I'm almost sure, it's again mono" and only a few posts afterwards you say: "You can't get mono twice", which means that also Mario can't get it twice and obviously can't have it now.

Yes, it's not good that Mario suffers for so long with high fever, especially as he and the doctors still don't know what it is.

Sunset of Age
07-29-2008, 06:46 PM
You're contradicting yourself there. When I said: "What a crap if it's again mono" you said, "I'm almost sure, it's again mono" and only a few posts afterwards you say: "You can't get mono twice", which means that also Mario can't get it twice and obviously can't have it now.

I think it's just a misunderstanding here. You can't get INFECTED with mono twice, as the Eppstein Barr-virus that causes it, never leaves your bod. It will remain there, being dormant, and yes, it MIGHT rear its ugly head again when one is fatigued, has a flu, etc. Nasty business, it could well be happening to Ancic here again, and only shows what a SOAB this virus really is and what it can do to a sports career. :( :( :(

Yes, it's not good that Mario suffers for so long with high fever, especially as he and the doctors still don't know what it is.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for him... poor lad. :hug:

zeleni
07-29-2008, 06:50 PM
Ancic is actually quite bad.
He is ill with high temperature and vomiting. The problem is that it last for two weeks.
He went to specialist in Cincinaty and the doctor instructed absolutely to stop any physical activities.
He is suspecting mono again.

This guy has bad luck.

Nope. He is loser. Always complaining about "bad luck" is loser symptom...

oranges
07-29-2008, 06:57 PM
Nope. He is loser. Always complaining about "bad luck" is loser symptom...

Coming up with a comment like that on this news is a sign of a true achiever and a wonderful human being :rolleyes:

Sebby
07-29-2008, 07:03 PM
Coming up with a comment like that on this news is a sign of a true achiever and a wonderful human being :rolleyes:

Normal, look at his profile pic, he's "il Cattivo" :lol:

zeleni
07-29-2008, 07:05 PM
Coming up with a comment like that on this news is a sign of a true achiever and a wonderful human being :rolleyes:

I agree it isn't nice thing to say, but it is true.

He is a pro athlete, so he should take care of his health and body, instead doing what he did...

zeleni
07-29-2008, 07:09 PM
Normal, look at his profile pic, he's "il Cattivo" :lol:

:cuckoo:

I am "il brutto".:)

Nastasie
07-29-2008, 07:21 PM
I agree it isn't nice thing to say, but it is true.

He is a pro athlete, so he should take care of his health and body, instead doing what he did...

What did he do? Catch mono?

whist
07-29-2008, 07:25 PM
I really hope it's nothing serious, he's had more than a fair share of bad luck already :sad:

Playing with a high temperature and vomiting isn`t bad luck, it`s just stupidity. And Mario is showing us how stupid he is every year. He is a great fighter, no doubt about it, but his brain is also damaged when he is playing under the circumstances.

zeleni
07-29-2008, 07:25 PM
What did he do? Catch mono?

Chasing Swedish hookers, driving scooter, lifting weight in gym without warming up,...

Sebby
07-29-2008, 07:26 PM
:cuckoo:

I am "il brutto".:)

You're right, I checked on the italian wikipedia.

In the french version "la brute" is played by Lee Van Cleef that's why I did a mistake ;)

Nastasie
07-29-2008, 07:32 PM
Playing with a high temperature and vomiting isn`t bad luck, it`s just stupidity. And Mario is showing us how stupid he is every year. He is a great fighter, no doubt about it, but his brain is also damaged when he is playing under the circumstances.

I thought he pulled out of Cincy *because* he had a high fever, etc? :scratch: And Freddie said in his blog that they had to delay preparations for Toronto because Mario had a fever, but he was ok when he played there. So as I understand it, he had problems a couple of weeks ago, got better, and now got sick again...:shrug:

zeleni
07-29-2008, 07:33 PM
You're right, I checked on the italian wikipedia.

In the french version "la brute" is played by Lee Van Cleef that's why I did a mistake ;)

Am I charming just like Tuco? :lol:

Jelena, 35, adores me.:D I've just got some reputation from her.:lol:

TIPSA BOGOTAC!!!
07-29-2008, 07:44 PM
Is Kiwi out too?I think he is,but i am not so sure...

kalisita
07-29-2008, 08:08 PM
Is Kiwi out too?I think he is,but i am not so sure...

Looks like it. Ram (USA) took his place.

Truc
07-29-2008, 08:12 PM
Yes, some pain in the foot according to his website.

zethand
07-29-2008, 08:15 PM
what a hell happened with Kiefer? He was my big bet for today! Damn it!

Yappa
07-29-2008, 08:19 PM
Too bad about today, but the match on saturday was more important anyways. If that had to be the price he had to pay, then so be it. He probably wants to make sure that there won't be any problems in Beijing. :)

Voo de Mar
07-29-2008, 08:23 PM
Expected from Kiefer :(

zethand
07-29-2008, 08:23 PM
Beijing is a joke! they go there because they have received a payment!

KitinovRules
07-29-2008, 08:29 PM
You're contradicting yourself there. When I said: "What a crap if it's again mono" you said, "I'm almost sure, it's again mono" and only a few posts afterwards you say: "You can't get mono twice", which means that also Mario can't get it twice and obviously can't have it now.

Yes, it's not good that Mario suffers for so long with high fever, especially as he and the doctors still don't know what it is.
I've just wanted to note that you can't get monot twice, but sure the consequences of it could made it dificult few times.

KitinovRules
07-29-2008, 08:29 PM
:cuckoo:

I am "il brutto".:)
No, you are "il stronzo" :)

whist
07-29-2008, 09:02 PM
I thought he pulled out of Cincy *because* he had a high fever, etc? :scratch: And Freddie said in his blog that they had to delay preparations for Toronto because Mario had a fever, but he was ok when he played there. So as I understand it, he had problems a couple of weeks ago, got better, and now got sick again...:shrug:

He said that he was feeling bad for the last two weeks, so he wasn`t that much better, just put a bit of a risk playing in Toronto. And what about when he was looking "dead" against Germany in DC, then he went on to play in Marseille and played just 4 games against Seppi, and he was ill the whole week before DC and still chose to play in Marseille. When he injured his arm by lifting weights, he chose to play in qualies in New Haven because he needed extra matches because he was coming from the mono illness and that was just stupid. He just injured his arm and was forcing himself with more matches then he should have played. And of course lost to Wawrinka almost without serving in the 2nd set. And of course missed the US Open for that reason. I could go on for quite a while you know :wavey:

oranges
07-29-2008, 09:11 PM
^^ As everyone thought it was just a flu at the time, the fact that the played that DC match half-dead is more a sign of dedication, than stupidity and recklessness. Please, let's not bash him, I prefer him to 10 Karlovics who cannot put aside their personal squabbles for one important DC match.

Albop
07-29-2008, 11:09 PM
He have a back problem, right?

kalisita
07-29-2008, 11:10 PM
Looks like it's over before it started. Ump just announced - due to injury I think.

Mashachosen1
07-29-2008, 11:11 PM
I think he pulled out :shrug:

Albop
07-29-2008, 11:11 PM
a LL will play Kolhi.

kalisita
07-29-2008, 11:12 PM
Shoulder injury, again.

GlennMirnyi
07-29-2008, 11:12 PM
Roddick hurt his back before the start... LL to play Kohlschreiber the nutcase.

scoobs
07-29-2008, 11:12 PM
Apparently since it was a warmup and the match did not start, there will be a lucky loser?

TooheysNew
07-29-2008, 11:13 PM
who will it be?

Deboogle!.
07-29-2008, 11:13 PM
:sobbing: unreal :sobbing:

scoobs
07-29-2008, 11:13 PM
Shame for Roddick, that - very bad for him.

crouching
07-29-2008, 11:13 PM
Yes, there's a LL coming in to play, apparently.

Mashachosen1
07-29-2008, 11:13 PM
Oh gosh dramarama! :lol: love it! :devil:

kalisita
07-29-2008, 11:14 PM
Apparently since it was a warmup and the match did not start, there will be a lucky loser?

Looks like. They haven't announced yet who it will be or how long it will take.

Jimnik
07-29-2008, 11:14 PM
Jun replaces him.

GlennMirnyi
07-29-2008, 11:14 PM
Match hasn't started, LL plays, it's the rule.

HoistDaColors
07-29-2008, 11:14 PM
supposedly a korean, maybe they've played in dc :shrug:

Cat9
07-29-2008, 11:14 PM
Omg, they're going to make him play right now? lol!

clandis
07-29-2008, 11:15 PM
the umpire said "some Korean guy".
Wait, his name is Woon Soon Joong phonetically.

anon57
07-29-2008, 11:15 PM
Very unfortunate for Roddick. Hopefully it's not too serious and he'll be able to recover fully soon.

kalisita
07-29-2008, 11:15 PM
Because he takes Roddick place in the 2R does he get like 5 pts or reg pts since he's not seeded?

crouching
07-29-2008, 11:16 PM
Jun Woong-Sun of Korea, the No 11 seed in qualifying, is coming in to play

Sunset of Age
07-29-2008, 11:17 PM
Now I understand why it's been such a mess at the vBetting lately... :p

Cat9
07-29-2008, 11:17 PM
Wait, so this guy just happened to be hanging around in the locker room?lol. They just said he is ranked 1000th something.

adee-gee
07-29-2008, 11:17 PM
Horrible luck for Andy, as if his game wasn't in a bad enough state, he now has to contend with continous niggling injuries :(

Consigliere
07-29-2008, 11:18 PM
So the LL affectively gets awarded a bye through to the second round, is this standard practice?

Albop
07-29-2008, 11:18 PM
Wait, so this guy just happened to be hanging around in the locker room?lol. They just said he is ranked 1000th something.

lol

Nope, he is #252

Jimnik
07-29-2008, 11:18 PM
It was interesting listening to the conversation between Kohli and Lahyani. I wasn't aware of the rule regarding LLs and when the match has "officially started".

"So who will I be playing now?"

" I don't know. Yun... something, from Korea".

TooheysNew
07-29-2008, 11:18 PM
Wait, so this guy just happened to be hanging around in the locker room?lol. They just said he is ranked 1000th something.



his rank is 252, should be an easy one for Kohli

freeandlonely
07-29-2008, 11:18 PM
So LL just...stand by...?
Anyway I hope he is not overwhelmed with this situation.

Blarghman
07-29-2008, 11:18 PM
Nice for Jun to get it, his first ever appearance in a main draw of a Masters Series, and a guaranteed 35 ranking points, probably around 50 spots in the rankings, maybe enough to put him in the top 200. And if he could ever get a win? This could really help his season, so good luck to him.

His best wins this year:
Berrer, Davis Cup
Schuettler, Dresden
Guccione, Indianapolis

Deboogle!.
07-29-2008, 11:19 PM
Horrible luck for Andy, as if his game wasn't in a bad enough state, he now has to contend with continous niggling injuries :(really fucking sucks, he says last week that he's feeling good for the first time since April, then in the tourney preview video on the masters series tv, he says he feels fine, then all of a sudden wakes up and can't play? Fucking sucks especially for this tournament, it's one of his favorites, his parents always make the trip, he has lots of family there, everything. Unreal.

Mashachosen1
07-29-2008, 11:19 PM
Wait, so this guy just happened to be hanging around in the locker room?lol. They just said he is ranked 1000th something.

:lol:

kalisita
07-29-2008, 11:20 PM
It was interesting listening to the conversation between Kohli and Lahyani. I wasn't aware of the rule regarding LLs and when the match has "officially started".

"So who will I be playing now?"

" I don't know. Yun... something, from Korea".

I knew of the rule but it's just weird for it to occur on court and then in the second round.

Jimnik
07-29-2008, 11:20 PM
A very lucky LL. If Jun wins he goes straight to the 3rd round. It's better than qualifying.

JolánGagó
07-29-2008, 11:20 PM
"So who will I be playing now?"

" I don't know. Yun... something, from Korea".

:lol: priceless.

Good Luck, Rod.

Morgan Z
07-29-2008, 11:21 PM
No, Jun won't get 35 points if he loses, he'll just get 8 points for his qualies round loss. Will get the money, though.

HoistDaColors
07-29-2008, 11:21 PM
his rank is 252, should be an easy one for Kohli

you never know. he lost to a qualifier rank #203 last week. :scared:

Jimnik
07-29-2008, 11:22 PM
Nice for Jun to get it, his first ever appearance in a main draw of a Masters Series, and a guaranteed 35 ranking points, probably around 50 spots in the rankings, maybe enough to put him in the top 200. And if he could ever get a win? This could really help his season, so good luck to him.
Not quite. He has to win to get any points. But he does only need the one win to get 75 points.

Blarghman
07-29-2008, 11:23 PM
No, Jun won't get 35 points if he loses, he'll just get 8 points for his qualies round loss. Will get the money, though.

Ah, that makes sense. Did seem a little unfair to give him all those points for just showing up. Still, getting 75 points for a win is a huge carrot, hopefully he'll play well.

octatennis
07-29-2008, 11:24 PM
jun is going to win.

~*BGT*~
07-29-2008, 11:24 PM
:sad: Andy :sad: doesn't need all the injuries. Get better soon duck. :hug:

Cat9
07-29-2008, 11:24 PM
his rank is 252, should be an easy one for Kohli

Yep, a little hyperbole from the commentator. lol. This is the strangest thing. Jun will be a slightly glorified practice session, no?

Voo de Mar
07-29-2008, 11:24 PM
Weird situation with Roddick and Woong-Sun...
bet365 doesn't show the match with LL :(

TooheysNew
07-29-2008, 11:25 PM
No, Jun won't get 35 points if he loses, he'll just get 8 points for his qualies round loss. Will get the money, though.

~17000 just for waiting to days :D

ImmzB
07-29-2008, 11:25 PM
Hes doubtful for L.A

kalisita
07-29-2008, 11:25 PM
you never know. he lost to a qualifier rank #203 last week. :scared:

That's the problem when you play someone you probably know nothing about and can't even get much info on.

Henry Chinaski
07-29-2008, 11:25 PM
Uncle Jun could win this tournament

http://images.tvnz.co.nz/tvnz_images/tv2/programmes/the_sopranos/dominic_chianese_d.jpg

Jimnik
07-29-2008, 11:25 PM
This is horrible for the crowd. Not only is Jun ranked low, he looks hopelessly unprepared.

Albop
07-29-2008, 11:26 PM
There's another match after this ?

clandis
07-29-2008, 11:27 PM
I saw this guy practicing with Andreev after the Federer match, but didn't know who he was:scratch:

scoobs
07-29-2008, 11:27 PM
Now the match is going can we not comment on the match in GM.

Can continue to discuss the draw, points, LL procedures and so forth, and obviously the fallout of Roddick's withdrawal.

Thanks

MyPrecious
07-29-2008, 11:27 PM
Good lord, the crowd watching this match seems dead :eek:

Poor guys :sad:

Albop
07-29-2008, 11:28 PM
At least he has better ground-strokes than Roddick.

clandis
07-29-2008, 11:30 PM
Good lord, the crowd watching this match seems dead :eek:

Poor guys :sad:

The line of cars was backed up on the interstate to get there, probably sold out.

Now will be the time for Sexy to shine.:cool:

I'm so glad I decided to stay home and miss the Roddick traffic.:)

Yappa
07-29-2008, 11:32 PM
So Roddick was already on the court, doing the warm up and then decided that he couldn't play?

Mashachosen1
07-29-2008, 11:32 PM
I feel for the crowd. *crickets*

kalisita
07-29-2008, 11:33 PM
So Roddick was already on the court, doing the warm up and then decided that he couldn't play?

I think he hurt himself during the warm up.

octatennis
07-29-2008, 11:33 PM
Good lord, the crowd watching this match seems dead :eek:

Poor guys :sad:


hey!! hello guy that writtes nonsense:worship: :wavey:

Deboogle!.
07-29-2008, 11:34 PM
So Roddick was already on the court, doing the warm up and then decided that he couldn't play?Yeah, then he had trouble sitting down and even looking to his left/right so it's not just his shoulder but also/or his neck/back.... he spoke to the crowd and said it came back when he woke up, it's just so strange b/c he said he had been fine for about 2-3 weeks of practice and toronto and stuff. So it sounds like he felt it when he woke up but wanted to give it a go, then started to warm up and realized it wasn't gonna be able to happen and wanted to not play any points so that someone else could play, or something like that.

Manon
07-29-2008, 11:34 PM
Such a shame...

Jimnik
07-29-2008, 11:35 PM
It really is a disaster for the reputation of the tournament. American fans can be very unforgiving when it comes to these things. They thought they were promised Roddick on the OOP.

~*BGT*~
07-29-2008, 11:35 PM
Is this the same injury from Rome?

Yappa
07-29-2008, 11:35 PM
I think he hurt himself during the warm up.

Did he get any treatment or did he just walk off the court?

edit:

Thanks for the info, Deb.

kalisita
07-29-2008, 11:37 PM
Did he get any treatment or did he just walk off the court?

Trainers came out but I think Roddick pretty much knew he couldn't continue. Told the crowd the injury from Rome (I presume) was back and bothering him since this morning.

Cat9
07-29-2008, 11:38 PM
Did he get any treatment or did he just walk off the court?

He was wincing in pain just sitting in his chair trying to turn his head. It looked like he was considering treatment but then just packed it in.

Deboogle!.
07-29-2008, 11:39 PM
Is this the same injury from Rome?Probably? But it's hard to say, and it's odd considering again how many times he said he felt better up until whenever the little preview interview was taped..... so maybe it's something new or who knows you roll over in your sleep or something.... but it did not look good, I happened to be recording so I re-watched his interview and he said he was having a hard time looking side to side. That's not something he ever talked about in regards to his shoulder injury that started in Rome, so we will have to wait to see what he says in the press conference which I would assume he's giving right about now :shrug:

Did he get any treatment or did he just walk off the court?

edit:

Thanks for the info, Deb.No he didn't, it's not something that looked like it could really be treated and it's not something that happened during the warmup, he was pretty clear to say that he felt it in the morning but wanted to try, and did't want to start the match so that someone else could take his place and have a chance to play instead.

JolánGagó
07-29-2008, 11:39 PM
How many withdrawals already? What a disaster.

scoobs
07-29-2008, 11:43 PM
You get this with back to back masters events every time pretty much.

Cat9
07-29-2008, 11:45 PM
I've had that happen many times. I wake up and can't turn my head without extreme pain. No clue what the hell I'm doing in my sleep to cause it but it goes away on it's own in a day or two. Let's hope that's all it is in Andy's case.

kalisita
07-29-2008, 11:45 PM
How many withdrawals already? What a disaster.

4 I believe - Ancic, Wawrinka, Keifer, Roddick. And then Monfils and I think Tursunov didn't feel well during their first rounders. So who knows what'll happen tomorrow?

TennisFan2012
07-29-2008, 11:48 PM
It really is a disaster for the reputation of the tournament. American fans can be very unforgiving when it comes to these things. They thought they were promised Roddick on the OOP.

American fans are no different from any other fans in this regard. Of course they are disappointed that Roddick can't play, just as German fans would be disappointed if Haas withdrew or Spanish fans if Nadal withdrew, etc. But every tennis fan knows there is no guarantee and that injuries do occur. They also know that Andy does his best to show up and play for all of the US tournaments and always has.

Cat9
07-29-2008, 11:49 PM
Aww, Tarik! Who is he coaching now?

Deboogle!.
07-29-2008, 11:50 PM
I've had that happen many times. I wake up and can't turn my head without extreme pain. No clue what the hell I'm doing in my sleep to cause it but it goes away on it's own in a day or two. Let's hope that's all it is in Andy's case.It happened to him before, I forget when, but I remember he lost in Memphis and said he almost didn't play because of something in his back/neck preventing him from looking side to side.. back problems also ended his brother's career before it began, so I hopes he stops fucking around with it. He basically admitted he probably shouldn't have even played the grass, so obviously something fairly serious is going on and he's either lying to the press or deluding himself into thinking he's ok when he's not. Most important thing for him is to get healthy now no matter what.

Havok
07-29-2008, 11:56 PM
Ugh this sucks balls. Who knows what kind of result he'll have for the USO with all this shit happening to him. A shame, really after a nice start to the year (Aussie Open being the exception). The injury cut his clay season short, and fucked up his grass season as well since he barely practices during the weeks leading up. Now this, during his best and favorite part of the entire year!:o

Please heal up quickly Andy!

Havok
07-29-2008, 11:58 PM
It happened to him before, I forget when, but I remember he lost in Memphis and said he almost didn't play because of something in his back/neck preventing him from looking side to side.. back problems also ended his brother's career before it began, so I hopes he stops fucking around with it. He basically admitted he probably shouldn't have even played the grass, so obviously something fairly serious is going on and he's either lying to the press or deluding himself into thinking he's ok when he's not. Most important thing for him is to get healthy now no matter what.

Wasn't that the really tight match vs Martin at Memphis. 2003 I believe, or was it 04?:scratch:

Deboogle!.
07-30-2008, 12:00 AM
Wasn't that the really tight match vs Martin at Memphis. 2003 I believe, or was it 04?:scratch:I think it was this one, I remember reading a journalist report that andy could barely move after he lost to Enqvist
http://www.atptennis.com/5/en/players/playerprofiles/playeractivity.asp?prevtrnnum=402&year=2004&query=Singles&selTournament=402&player=R485&x=14&y=7

as for the USO, forget his result, he's gonna be lucky to play (and maybe he should learn after what happened during the grass season and not play if it's that serious)

scoobs
07-30-2008, 12:01 AM
On the Ancic withdrawal, apparently his doctors are suspecting it's a mono relapse :(

They're awaiting test results.

REALLY hope not...

tennis lover
07-30-2008, 12:05 AM
Bad luck for Andy, I just hope he'll be fit enough to play the US Open and won't rush back just to lose in the 1st round because he's not ready or something. He needs to get healthy.Probably? But it's hard to say, and it's odd considering again how many times he said he felt better up until whenever the little preview interview was taped..... so maybe it's something new or who knows you roll over in your sleep or something.... but it did not look good, I happened to be recording so I re-watched his interview and he said he was having a hard time looking side to side. That's not something he ever talked about in regards to his shoulder injury that started in Rome, so we will have to wait to see what he says in the press conference which I would assume he's giving right about now :shrug:
I think I remember him not being able to turn his head when he had the trainer on court in Rome and we initially thought it was a pinched nerve or something. I thought the shoulder injury was found in a scan later or something as it was the other shoulder. :shrug: But it is highly possible that I am wrong. :lol:

tennis lover
07-30-2008, 12:07 AM
On the Ancic withdrawal, apparently his doctors are suspecting it's a mono relapse :(

They're awaiting test results.

REALLY hope not...
I really hope not as well, the poor guy has had enough time off with it. :sad: Give him a break! I hope it's just flu or something. :awww:

Regenbogen
07-30-2008, 12:09 AM
I do remember stuff with Roddick "not being able to turn his head" before, but I don't remember where. Hopefully it's nothing recurring or very serious...it sucks for everyone going to that match too, a bunch of people were still coming in when he'd already withdrawn.

Wow I hope Ancic is alright :scared:

Deboogle!.
07-30-2008, 12:09 AM
On the Ancic withdrawal, apparently his doctors are suspecting it's a mono relapse :(

They're awaiting test results.

REALLY hope not...oh no oh no, oh no. he's not my favorite player but he seems like a good hard-working guy and doesn't deserve this run of poor luck. oh gosh. i hope not.

I think I remember him not being able to turn his head when he had the trainer on court in Rome and we initially thought it was a pinched nerve or something. I thought the shoulder injury was found in a scan later or something as it was the other shoulder. :shrug: But it is highly possible that I am wrong. :lol:I don't remember, when he retired i was still asleep :lol: I remember a couple years ago he had a pinched nerve at rome, i think he lost to monfils? and then pulled out of hamburg.... so this marks (at least) three times where he's had problems with his neck/upper back/nerve/turning head side-to-side in the last 4 or so years. not good at all.

scoobs
07-30-2008, 12:12 AM
I know - I'm no great Ancic fan either but I just feel like - you know - someone up there give the guy a break!!! He's had enough already - let him play tennis and be healthy for a bit!

I hope, really hope, that they find out it's not mono again and he can bounce back quickly.

I guess we'll have to wait for more news.

Ditto Roddick - he's already lost what momentum he had thanks to Rome. Rough to have to do all that again in the hc season when he really wants to be at his peak.

Winston's Human
07-30-2008, 12:13 AM
On the Ancic withdrawal, apparently his doctors are suspecting it's a mono relapse :(

They're awaiting test results.

REALLY hope not...

Poor Mario. He has the worst luck.

scoobs
07-30-2008, 12:13 AM
Poor Mario. He has the worst luck.
Let's just hope it's not that and it's something less serious.

Deboogle!.
07-30-2008, 12:23 AM
good news regarding andy i guess......depending on how fast it heals, that is. But this makes it sound completely unrelated to his shoulder injury, so i guess that's good :scratch:
===========================
Stiff neck forces Roddick from Cincinnati (Roundup)

Jul 30, 2008, 0:15 GMT

Cincinnati, Ohio - Andy Roddick's hard-luck season of injury continued on Tuesday as the sixth seed pulled out just moments before an opening match at the Cincinnati Masters.

The US player, who won the title in 2003 less than a month before claiming his only Grand Slam trophy at the US Open, has been bothered since May by a shoulder problem.

He later confirmed that his latest niggle was likely the result of nothing more than poor sleeping posture.

'I fell asleep and woke up, and I still had the lights on in my room,' Roddick said. 'I just kind of passed out. We're guessing it was in the wrong position or whatnot. I woke up this morning, and something in my neck and kind of any activity is causing it to flare up.'

Roddick was unable to take to the court for his second-round match against Philipp Kohlschreiber, leaving the German to face South Korean lucky loser Jun Woong-Sun, ranked 252.

'I can hardly look from side to side,' said Roddick, who missed the French Open with the injury and won only one round at Wimbledon. 'It kills me that I have to walk off without playing.'

He called the ailment a 'fluke thing.'

'It's terrible,' Roddick said. 'I hate not playing, and I hate withdrawing from tournaments. It's the most hollow feeling, even when you have to walk off because you're hurt, and you know people have come to watch you play.'

neenah
07-30-2008, 12:25 AM
Ouch - that's a lot of withdrawls. I hate to see players injured or sick.

And am I hearing "Ancic" and "mono" together again?? Horrible, horrible, horrible.

Merton
07-30-2008, 12:26 AM
Terrible luck for Andy in an important tournament for him. :( Hopefully it is nothing serious, I guess the worst scenario is if there is some problem that has not been treated and first appeared during the Wawrinka match in Rome.

scoobs
07-30-2008, 12:27 AM
Well let's hope Andy shakes it off for next week.

Jimnik
07-30-2008, 12:29 AM
I'm so glad that Andy is not going to the Olympics.

I guess it could be worse. Imagine if he had to withdraw from the US Open with this problem.

Deboogle!.
07-30-2008, 12:32 AM
I'm so glad that Andy is not going to the Olympics.

I guess it could be worse. Imagine if he had to withdraw from the US Open with this problem.the scary thing is is that he probably wouldn't... he'd probably play b/c it's the USO and he's put his whole summer into this and it's turning out to be absolutely miserable for him. i mean by all accounts, it sounds like he should not have played on the grass and only until about the week after he lost in wimbledon was he able to practice full on 2-a-days and stuff.

This sounds unrelated, though, so hopefully it goes away quickly and being ready for the USO won't be an issue.

tangerine_dream
07-30-2008, 12:39 AM
Gah, mono relapse, I've had one of those before, it's like getting mono all over again, it's just shorter than when you got it the first time. Bad luck for Mario. :sad:

And more rotten luck for Andy. :mad: But I'm glad to hear that it's a fluky "I slept on my pillow the wrong way" kind of thing because I'd like to see him made a good run at USO. Unfortunately now he probably won't get a chance to play any of the top players before then. :sad:

Nastasie
07-30-2008, 12:46 AM
He said that he was feeling bad for the last two weeks, so he wasn`t that much better, just put a bit of a risk playing in Toronto. And what about when he was looking "dead" against Germany in DC, then he went on to play in Marseille and played just 4 games against Seppi, and he was ill the whole week before DC and still chose to play in Marseille. When he injured his arm by lifting weights, he chose to play in qualies in New Haven because he needed extra matches because he was coming from the mono illness and that was just stupid. He just injured his arm and was forcing himself with more matches then he should have played. And of course lost to Wawrinka almost without serving in the 2nd set. And of course missed the US Open for that reason. I could go on for quite a while you know :wavey:

Obviously you've made up your mind about Mario - he and his team are apparently retards to you, so I guess there's no point in arguing.

njnetswill
07-30-2008, 12:49 AM
Federer's fairly easy section got that much easier with Ancic and Roddick out. Too bad Roger is in such awful form. :lol:

Not a fan of Roddick by no means but I wish him well. Poor Mario, it's painful just watching him sugger from health problems over and over.

*Raine
07-30-2008, 01:17 AM
Poor Mario. He has the worst luck.

Mario :sad: and to the other players as well. I hope Tursunov and Monfils will be fine in their next game.

julia_gu
07-30-2008, 01:36 AM
what's the matter with andy?

Deboogle!.
07-30-2008, 03:07 AM
what's the matter with andy?no one better to explain it than himself
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=7422073&postcount=620

dam0dred
07-30-2008, 03:16 AM
Can you blame them? Who in their right mind would be willing travel to Ohio? Masters series events are supposed to be the biggest ATP events there are, they should not be held in hovels like Cincinnati.

Rumour
07-30-2008, 04:36 AM
Wishing a speedy and complete recovery to all the players withdrawing due to injury, especially those who seem the most severely affected i.e. Ancic and Roddick. Sad to see some supposed fans of the Croat almost blaming him for his illness or implying he somehow doesn't deserve sympathy now because of past scheduling/training issues :confused:

Also, I don't see what the tournament's geographic location has to do with any of their physical ailments - if the players were in Toronto this week after Cincy rather than vice versa, I doubt they'd have somehow made an extra special effort to avoid withdrawing because the Centre of the Universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_referred_to_as_the_Center_of_the_Un iverse) is sooo vastly superior :rolleyes:

dam0dred
07-30-2008, 04:48 AM
Also, I don't see what the tournament's geographic location has to do with any of their physical ailments - if the players were in Toronto this week after Cincy rather than vice versa, I doubt they'd have somehow made an extra special effort to avoid withdrawing because the Centre of the Universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_referred_to_as_the_Center_of_the_Un iverse) is sooo vastly superior :rolleyes:

But they're more likely to withdraw for a trivial reason when the tournament is held in such a dump. At least, I would be. :)

Deboogle!.
07-30-2008, 05:04 AM
But they're more likely to withdraw for a trivial reason when the tournament is held in such a dump. At least, I would be. :)Who cares? I've heard it's a really nice event, and the money and points are the same regardless of how "dumpy" the surrounding city is, so I doubt very much that the players give a damn. I think something that could be at play is players not wanting to risk the Olympics, but that's another story :shrug:

Merton
07-30-2008, 05:11 AM
Can you blame them? Who in their right mind would be willing travel to Ohio? Masters series events are supposed to be the biggest ATP events there are, they should not be held in hovels like Cincinnati.

But they're more likely to withdraw for a trivial reason when the tournament is held in such a dump. At least, I would be. :)

:wavey: Mr. Tiriac

Lee
07-30-2008, 05:29 AM
On the Ancic withdrawal, apparently his doctors are suspecting it's a mono relapse :(

They're awaiting test results.

REALLY hope not...

Please no! :awww:

Jelena
07-30-2008, 08:11 AM
That only shows it's worth signing in as Lucky Loser.

JolánGagó
07-30-2008, 08:27 AM
Jun was not even ranked high enough to get into the Qualifying Draw when the
entries were done

Not only did he get in due to withdrawls, he now shows up as the Highest Ranked player left in qualifying !!!!

What part of L U C K Y you don't get?

Matt01
07-30-2008, 03:20 PM
Hopefully Mario, Nicolas, Stan and Andy will get better soon :hug:


:wavey: Mr. Tiriac


:lol:


You get this with back to back masters events every time pretty much.


Exactly. The ATP calendar this year is a big sad joke. :mad: