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Who will be the next player not named Federer or Nadal to win Wimbledon?

richie21
07-27-2008, 10:33 PM
Discuss.
Personnally,i'd say Murray in 2010.

Xenosys
07-27-2008, 10:34 PM
I like Murray's game, but I think he's got more of a chance at the AO or USO. Grass suits him, but I don't think he'll get much further than the semi's at Wimbledon.

I'd say either Djokovic or Gasquet.

richie21
07-27-2008, 10:36 PM
I think Gasquet will win Wimbledon one day(the only slam i see him winning actually) but Murray will do it before.

Erica86
07-27-2008, 10:37 PM
A 13 or 14 year-old guy who at the moment is not around.

ASP0315
07-27-2008, 10:53 PM
Ivo karlovic will pull an ivanisevic in a couple of years. ;)

PinkFeatherBoa
07-27-2008, 10:55 PM
Murray. :yeah: Probably next year. I'm surprised he hasn't done so already.

gebl
07-27-2008, 11:04 PM
A 13 or 14 year-old guy who at the moment is not around. (at senior level)


Carlos Boluda,

Andi-M
07-27-2008, 11:04 PM
Murray 2010 sounds about right to me too. :D

Sunset of Age
07-27-2008, 11:07 PM
Muzza Bandwagon in full force! :lol:

Don't hit me though... I hope he'll be able to do it, too.

RafaTheBest
07-27-2008, 11:10 PM
Spartan Murray will win one once Nadal is past his prime.

richie21
07-27-2008, 11:13 PM
Muzza Bandwagon in full force! :lol:

Funnily enough,the Djoker Bandwagon is not so much in full force anymore :eek:

decrepitude
07-27-2008, 11:19 PM
Oh dear. If MTF polls run true to course, poor Muzza is never going to win it.

Sunset of Age
07-27-2008, 11:37 PM
Funnily enough,the Djoker Bandwagon is not so much in full force anymore :eek:

A Wimbly Second Round loss doesn't help, no? A Toronto straight set loss to Muzza neither, I gather. ;)

DISCLAIMER: I am NO hater. ;)

Oh dear. If MTF polls run true to course, poor Muzza is never going to win it.

Yeah, I feel rather worried now as well... woe is me, Muzza bandwagonner! :help: :p

star
07-27-2008, 11:50 PM
Funnily enough,the Djoker Bandwagon is not so much in full force anymore :eek:

8 for Murray and 6 for Djokovic. That's pretty even. :)

We'll see what happens when our friends from the east are here. :)

Guga_fan
07-27-2008, 11:57 PM
Djkovic or Gasquet. But for this, both have to improve, Nole has to adjust his footwork to the grass and Gasquet has to work on his physical department. Even though Murray played some really good matches recently, to win Wimbledon he would probably have to face Federer or Nadal, and I can't see him beating them in a best-of-5 match.

JolánGagó
07-28-2008, 12:00 AM
None of the above Im afraid, they'll all be too old by the time Nadal ends his domination era.

jpatatsos
07-28-2008, 12:01 AM
baghdatis will win a wimbledon if he fries his nerves, and maybe if nadal is on one leg

Tom Paulman
07-28-2008, 12:06 AM
Somdev Devvarman

richie21
07-28-2008, 12:19 AM
None of the above Im afraid, they'll all be too old by the time Nadal ends his domination era.

So they'll be too old at 25?

Ivanatis
07-28-2008, 12:52 AM
in my opinion the only ones of the above-mentioned are Gulbis, if he continues his development and turns into a top player, and Djokovic at his best

but it will probably be some player, who is not that active yet on the ATP Tour like Ignatik for example

BigJohn
07-28-2008, 01:14 AM
Gasquet will pull a Mauresmo.

Guga_fan
07-28-2008, 01:17 AM
I don't understand why suddenly Murray has become the one of the most probable winners of majors here on MTF. I think that Gulbis and Gasquet have more chances of winning big titles than him.:confused:

jcempire
07-28-2008, 01:26 AM
Djok or Roddick if he is healthy and play his best

Clydey
07-28-2008, 02:04 AM
I don't understand why suddenly Murray has become the one of the most probable winners of majors here on MTF. I think that Gulbis and Gasquet have more chances of winning big titles than him.:confused:

Gulbis hasn't beaten anybody yet and is no less prone to a set of errors than Tursunov. We'll need to see how he develops. Gasquet certainly has the game to win majors, but doesn't have the mentality. He beats himself half of the time.

Guga_fan
07-28-2008, 02:17 AM
Gulbis hasn't beaten anybody yet and is no less prone to a set of errors than Tursunov. We'll need to see how he develops. Gasquet certainly has the game to win majors, but doesn't have the mentality. He beats himself half of the time.

Gulbis already reached a Grand Slam quarter-final, and gave Djoko and Nadal some trouble at RG and Wimbledon. With his serve and more experience I think he will be top5. Gasquet can play really well sometimes, and IMO he lacks stamina, I think his mental department is already enough to reach at least a GS Final.

Also, I was not saying that these two will win many majors or anything like that, I meant that their chances are bigger (not much) than Murray's. I just that I can't understand why people are now thinking that Murray is such a probable major winner since he haven't done anything that amazing (he is playing really well IMO though).

Jimnik
07-28-2008, 02:17 AM
Bernard Tomic

RagingLamb
07-28-2008, 02:19 AM
no "other" option?

Clydey
07-28-2008, 02:34 AM
Gulbis already reached a Grand Slam quarter-final, and gave Djoko and Nadal some trouble at RG and Wimbledon. With his serve and more experience I think he will be top5. Gasquet can play really well sometimes, and IMO he lacks stamina, I think his mental department is already enough to reach at least a GS Final.

Also, I was not saying that these two will win many majors or anything like that, I meant that their chances are bigger (not much) than Murray's. I just that I can't understand why people are now thinking that Murray is such a probable major winner since he haven't done anything that amazing (he is playing really well IMO though).

I think Gasquet would need a kind draw to reach a GS final. For example, Davydenko and/or Ferrer for the quarters and semis. Out of the top 3, I think he would have the best shot at Djokovic. I don't think he would be as tough to overcome in the latter stages of a GS as Federer and Nadal would be.

As for Gulbis, it's far too early to tell. There's obviously potential, but there's always a chance he won't keep developing. He might hit his peak early. He's too hit and miss just now. If he improves his consistency and his shot selection, I think he's in with a shout. Right now he's playing like a ball basher, even though the he has good hands. He doesn't need to rely solely on power.

I still think Murray has a better shot than either of them. He's mentally tougher than Gasquet and is extremely fit nowadays. He also has more options and plays more than one way. I'm biased, though, so as much as I'm trying to be objective, maybe my bias clouds my judgement. We'll find out eventually.

Another reason I think Murray has a better chance is that he's heading for the top 4. He has nothing to defend for the next month and a half. He would have jumped to 6th if he had won at Toronto, so by the time the US Open is finished, he should be 6th at the very least. Therefore, he's going to start getting better draws if and when he climbs to fourth. I think Gasquet needs to get a better seeding if he's going to start hitting semis regularly.

Andi-M
07-28-2008, 04:08 AM
I don't understand why suddenly Murray has become the one of the most probable winners of majors here on MTF. I think that Gulbis and Gasquet have more chances of winning big titles than him.:confused:

Murray has home advantage at Wimbledon that can be very effective as we've seen for him and for Henman in the past also.

Murrays game is suited very well to the grass. His 1st serve is becoming a weapon now he can volley reasonably well, his BH is just :drool: and his FH is far more powerful and consisant than it used to be and will continue to improve.

Nadal is the main player who can stop Muzza from winning Wimbledon within the next 2-3 years.

I agree Gulbis is a fantastic prospect with his big powerful game, mentally seems pretty tough too, I think he will win Wimbledon theres a possibility he sneak in there before Murray.

Djokovic isnt amazing on grass, but obviously he has the ability to win on any surface, and definately will have a great shot in every tournament he plays. The kid is done in terms of development he is the finished article. A fine article he may be but the others have the potential to outdo him on grass...the potential not saying they necessarily will.

Gasquet mental midget...has bundles of talent as we all know, but always bottles it. He might turn it round at some point, but as someone pointed out he might do a bit of a Mauresmo and get himself together in his mid-late twenties.

If Tsonga can stay injury-free he could win Wimbledon. His game is huge and like he showed in Austrailia can give Nadal nightmares.

If Baggy could also sort himself ot he'd have a shot. A long shot mind.

Roddick....:lol:

octatennis
07-28-2008, 04:23 AM
federer's son.

peterparker
07-28-2008, 04:31 AM
Once murray improves imo it''s going to be him and nadal mano y mano for several years at wimbledon. Nadal seems impervious to Murrays magical powers of winning points without any real skills. :) He is a real challenge for murray and you can tell murray has zeroed in on nadal as his true rival.

Djokovic will be there as well once in a while, but imo murray will take over as the 2nd favorite in a year or so.

Gasquet is a real wildcard even god doesn't know where he is headed :).

flower14
07-28-2008, 05:06 AM
Safin :)

Sebby
07-28-2008, 06:09 AM
Christian Sampras

or

maybe Djokovic

Vamos Rafa 01
07-28-2008, 06:57 AM
Djokovic.

Gasquet is a strong candidate as well.

vincayou
07-28-2008, 08:03 AM
Tsonga seems to be a good candidate as well. If only he could stop being injured.

Mimi
07-28-2008, 08:10 AM
Djokovic, Murray, Gasquet :wavey:

Mimi
07-28-2008, 08:10 AM
oh i forgot the poor roddick :wavey:

bokehlicious
07-28-2008, 08:14 AM
Djokovic :cool:


Marko Djokovic that is :angel: :)

finishingmove
07-28-2008, 08:37 AM
oscar hernandez to pull an ivanisevic. or should i say nadal? :lol:

maconick
07-28-2008, 09:30 AM
Grigor Dimitrov

FairWeatherFan
07-28-2008, 10:18 AM
Tomic :p

Damn
07-28-2008, 10:32 AM
federer's son.

Who would be trained by Uncle Toni and Rafa, of course. Federer wants Uncle Toni to train him, as well :sad:

richie21
07-28-2008, 10:58 AM
Gulbis already reached a Grand Slam quarter-final, and gave Djoko and Nadal some trouble at RG and Wimbledon. With his serve and more experience I think he will be top5. Gasquet can play really well sometimes, and IMO he lacks stamina, I think his mental department is already enough to reach at least a GS Final.

I agree.
People makes way too much about his supposed mental weakness,preferring to point his choke against Murray in last Wimbledon rather than pointing some of his clutch performances against Federer in 2005,Roddick in WImbledon 2007 and Murray in the deciding match for TMC's last spot last year.

KitinovRules
07-28-2008, 11:18 AM
The Bulgarian who won wimbly junior tourney this year.
I don't remember his name.

Chupakabra
07-28-2008, 12:09 PM
The Bulgarian who won wimbly junior tourney this year.
I don't remember his name.

Grigor Dimitrov is his name.He is excellent at junior tour and will possibly be a big name at seniors...But,we shall see how things are going to look like in next couple of years...Let's just not rush with prediction of him being at the very top of the game in the future...;)

Venle
07-28-2008, 12:57 PM
Gasquet

Sunset of Age
07-28-2008, 04:24 PM
federer's son.

:scratch: That boy's name would most obviously be 'Federer' as well, no?

platinum
07-28-2008, 06:04 PM
Murray or Gasquet.

jonny84
07-28-2008, 06:19 PM
Djokovic. He is the only active player who can do it in my opinion but I think Nadal will win it next year and successfully defend his title. Probably in 2010........

Merton
07-28-2008, 08:58 PM
Tsonga has good chances at Wimbledon, that is if he gets enough time injury-free to reach top form for the event.

The thread-starter should have an "other" option at this poll.

Fedex
07-28-2008, 10:46 PM
Eh, none of them. Federer will win another Wimbledon or two I think and certainly Nadal will be contending there for a while.

Fedex
07-28-2008, 10:50 PM
Gasquet will pull a Mauresmo.

Mauresmo won two slams in a single season. Gasquet will never come close to doing that. His results at Wimbledon aren't nearly as consistent either.

richie21
07-28-2008, 10:54 PM
Mauresmo won two slams in a single season. Gasquet will never come close to doing that. His results at Wimbledon aren't nearly as consistent either.

Correct me if i'm wrong but i don't think Mauresmo had already made a Wimbledon 1/2 final at 21.
I think you are forgetting that Gasquet is still very young.
You have to note that it needed players like Federer(in first round and in 1/2 final) and Murray(in 1/8 final) to stop him at Wimbledon in the last 3 years so it's not like we can say he's been inconsistent at Wimbledon,losing to players he shouldn't have lost against.
If there is one grand slam he can definitely win,that's Wimbledon(not the least because grass is the least demanding surface physically).

nemanjam
07-28-2008, 11:22 PM
Filip Krajinovic

KitinovRules
07-28-2008, 11:35 PM
Grigor Dimitrov is his name.He is excellent at junior tour and will possibly be a big name at seniors...But,we shall see how things are going to look like in next couple of years...Let's just not rush with prediction of him being at the very top of the game in the future...;)
Of course,

Taking into account another Bulgarian (Todor Enev) and how his senior career went, I would also not jumped at conclusions. That Enev was quite talented, winning Orange Bowl and beeing n.2 junior in the world and look where his position is now.

scoobs
07-28-2008, 11:40 PM
I hope Dimitrov does well - I saw his Wimbledon final with Kontinen and thought it was a good match, they both played some good intelligent tennis, one of the better junior matches I have seen.