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Cinci winner

Halba
07-27-2008, 09:34 AM
Not nadal

:help: we need variety, i reckon he's due for a 'tank'

but who wins?

i voted 'dark horse'

Chloe le Bopper
07-27-2008, 09:35 AM
Did the 's' key on your keyboard break?

Sebby
07-27-2008, 09:38 AM
Djoker will be back with a vengeance.

Junkyard Racket
07-27-2008, 09:43 AM
Nadal will be too tired due to the Toronto tournament. It will be Federer defeating Djokovic in the final. But, really, who knows? Who had freakin' Kiefer reaching the Toronto final?

Vamos Rafa 01
07-27-2008, 09:48 AM
Probably Djokovic over Federer in final.

RIboy
07-27-2008, 10:08 AM
Robredo over Serra in final

KitinovRules
07-27-2008, 10:12 AM
This is funny,

Lots of people still believe that the Faker is capable of winning here.
He is on a downhill , he won't pass Bolleli or at best Berdych/Gonzo.

Sebby
07-27-2008, 10:16 AM
This is funny,

Lots of people still believe that the Faker is capable of winning here.

Only three people for the moment. 3 clowns, including me :umbrella:

finishingmove
07-27-2008, 11:14 AM
Rafael Nadal ,i mean who else?

Finalist: Jose Acasuso.

Score: 7-5 7-5 in 3 hours 56 minutes

Stats :
JA W/UE 10/134
RN W/UE 5/4

Sebby
07-27-2008, 11:19 AM
Stats :
JA W/UE 10/134
RN W/UE 5/4

:haha:

rafa the best
07-27-2008, 04:09 PM
Rafael Nadal ,i mean who else?

Finalist: Jose Acasuso.

Score: 7-5 7-5 in 3 hours 56 minutes

Stats :
JA W/UE 10/134
RN W/UE 5/4

Very funny:rolleyes: It won't be Feker that's for sure, no matter how many winners he makes:devil::wavey::angel:

Bilbo
07-27-2008, 04:12 PM
R. Federer

renatoal
07-27-2008, 04:16 PM
Fedex Express

Guga_fan
07-27-2008, 04:25 PM
I think it all depends on how Djoko and Fed play, if they play what they can, they will be making the final, and IMO Roger would have the edge.

ImmzB
07-27-2008, 04:35 PM
R.Nadal...

RafaTheBest
07-27-2008, 04:40 PM
The Spartan king of course.

rofe
07-27-2008, 04:41 PM
The answer you are looking for is R. Nadal.

He is on an all time confidence high, he has retooled his serve to be more effective and he still has the best defense which is translating better and better on the hard court. He has already figured out how to flatten his BH and he is pretty close to flattening his FH. He shouldn't be tired after today's final since he is playing smarter and he will probably get a Wednesday start.

Greatness
07-27-2008, 04:46 PM
Djokovic will win if he remembers how to play tennis.

betowiec
07-27-2008, 04:49 PM
mighty James blake
looooooooooooooooooool

Lurker011
07-27-2008, 05:23 PM
if federer doesnt reach the final with this draw and than he should give up on this season. there is absolutely nobody on his side of the draw that can come close to him other than maybe murray,and i doubt that murray will even play. it should be a federer/djokovic final in my opinion.

Mateya
07-27-2008, 05:28 PM
Fedmug - no
Ballbouncer - no
Clay/grass/hard monster - maybe

It could be a tournament for a "dark horse", some other top 20 player will probably clinch it. :p

Regenbogen
07-27-2008, 05:32 PM
I kind of think Fed will because I don't know who can beat him in his draw, but I didn't think Simon could beat him so who knows...

I hope a dark horse wins it, that would be fun.

Damn
07-27-2008, 08:06 PM
The favorite to win a tournament is always the best player in the world. That player is Rafel Nadal, even if the surface is Cinci's one (let me guess: blue clay, maybe?)

Bug
07-27-2008, 09:53 PM
Nadal, of course...

Clay Death
07-27-2008, 09:53 PM
The favorite to win a tournament is always the best player in the world. That player is Rafel Nadal, even if the surface is Cinci's one (let me guess: blue clay, maybe?)

Clay Monster is going to skip either Cincy or the Olympics. i dont know which one yet.

Sunset of Age
07-27-2008, 09:54 PM
Clay Monster is going to skip either Cincy or the Olympics. i dont know which one yet.

I wouldn't count on that, CD.

Merton
07-27-2008, 09:55 PM
Tomas Berdych.

Sunset of Age
07-27-2008, 09:56 PM
Tomas Berdych.

:haha:

Not that I'd mind to see that happening... at all. :angel:

Allez
07-27-2008, 09:57 PM
If Nadal plays (and I would advise against it!) he will walk it. I want him in Beijing though to make things there interesting. If he plays both Cincy and the Olympics then his otherwise certain USO win will be under threat. Too much tennis.

Bug
07-27-2008, 09:59 PM
Thomaz Bellucci!! :o

Clay Death
07-27-2008, 10:00 PM
I wouldn't count on that, CD.


count on it. Clay Death knows some serious shit.

Fumus
07-27-2008, 10:15 PM
Clay Death knows some serious shit.

;)

richie21
07-27-2008, 10:24 PM
Wow judging from this poll so far,Gasquet's hype is coming back in force it seems :o

lurker
07-27-2008, 10:30 PM
Well, according to ESPN, Uncle Toni will be with Rafa through Cincy but will not accompany him to Beijing. I'd say Rafa and his team are eyeing Cincy as an important tournament to win, therefore, I believe he will make the push. I give him a run through to the SF. If Djokovic doesn't lose to some mug before then, it will be interesting. If Rafa doesn not face Djokovic in the SF, he will surely win the title.

Thus, it stands to reason that Rafa will skip the Olympics, or lose early there.

knight_ley
07-27-2008, 10:38 PM
Kiwi will relive this week and take Rafa out with bagels in the final. :zzz:

Damn
07-27-2008, 10:39 PM
Clay Monster is going to skip either Cincy or the Olympics. i dont know which one yet.

Yeah, he definitely should, but I doubt that he really does. He is in berserk mode right now, you know, the longest and loudest VAMOS of all time :rocker:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/roddickwatch/animated%20gifs/rafashake.gif

That is, as you said, the mother of all mosters, and yes, he is angry.

richie21
07-27-2008, 10:48 PM
Gilles Simon

PinkFeatherBoa
07-27-2008, 10:52 PM
Kiwi will relive this week and take Rafa out with bagels in the final. :zzz:

I'll go with that...Kiwi all the way. :rocker2:

federernadalfan
07-27-2008, 10:53 PM
in one of his interviews he said he was going to play in cincy, and I doubt he will skip the olympics, so I think he is going to run at them both.
My guess for the cinci winner is fed. He is going to redeem himself after that embarrassing second round loss against simon.

ASP0315
07-27-2008, 10:55 PM
Karlo skipped toronto exclusively prepare for this event.
the courts are pretty fast and suits big servers.
i vote a dark horse say it is karlovic. ;)

Xenosys
07-27-2008, 10:56 PM
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/roddickwatch/animated%20gifs/rafashake.gif

"Don't ... make me angry. You wouldn't like it .. when I'm ... angry."

I saw this last night. Fantastic, and at the same time, Murray was about to rip the surface a new arsehole after dumping his volley into the net.

In anycase, I'd go with Federer this time around. He needs to bounce back, and now's a good a time as any in prep for the Olympics and USO.

Andi-M
07-27-2008, 11:01 PM
Based on the draw Murray or Gasquet...most likely Murray will lose to Nadal in the final.

Sunset of Age
07-27-2008, 11:18 PM
in one of his interviews he said he was going to play in cincy, and I doubt he will skip the olympics, so I think he is going to run at them both.

Sensible thinking.
Of course he's not going to throw away a great opportunity to finally become the #1 next week. He's been dreaming about that the past three years already, and in Cincy, he sort-of gets his chance handed over to him on a silver plate!

He's already stated the Olympics are very important to him, and I see no reason to doubt his appearance over there at all. Why not go for it ALL when one is healthy and in top form? :D

My guess for the cinci winner is fed. He is going to redeem himself after that embarrassing second round loss against simon.

I hope that you are right, here, but personally I'm not counting on it. Fed has been struggling in Cincy before... remember 2006? The one guy that managed to demolish him there is on his side of the draw again, and from what I remember from Toronto lately, that bloke is in pretty good form. :angel:
I'd be really happy if Fed makes it through past the semi-final.

richie21
07-27-2008, 11:21 PM
I hope that you are right, here, but personally I'm not counting on it. Fed has been struggling in Cincy before... remember 2006? The one guy that managed to demolish him there is on his side of the draw again, and from what I remember from Toronto lately, that bloke is in pretty good form. :angel:
I'd be really happy if Fed makes it through past the semi-final.

Demolish?? not quite.

Sunset of Age
07-27-2008, 11:25 PM
Demolish?? not quite.

Okay then. 'Destruct'. :p

Manon
07-27-2008, 11:30 PM
Novak or Federer.

~Maya~
07-27-2008, 11:37 PM
Roger didn't make past semis on hard court this year. I don't see him winning. Like Federer, Djokovic is fighting his demons right now. I would not put my money on him but there is a hope.
Somebody besides top three could win this one:confused:

Manon
07-27-2008, 11:58 PM
Somebody besides top three could win this one:confused:

In their dreams.

~Maya~
07-28-2008, 12:57 AM
In their dreams.

I would like to see Novak lift the trophy but he worries me

Ivanatis
07-28-2008, 01:02 AM
Somehow I feel Novak will take it.

BigJohn
07-28-2008, 01:15 AM
It has to be Federer. Must be.

gulzhan
07-28-2008, 01:24 AM
Federer
He's got to win something this year!

TankingTheSet
07-28-2008, 01:35 AM
I hope that you are right, here, but personally I'm not counting on it. Fed has been struggling in Cincy before... remember 2006? The one guy that managed to demolish him there is on his side of the draw again, and from what I remember from Toronto lately, that bloke is in pretty good form. :angel:
I'd be really happy if Fed makes it through past the semi-final.

Did you follow that tournament in 2006?

It was public knowledge at the time that Federer was tired after winning Canada after four consecutive three-setters. Murray's win wasn't surprising, and I am sure the sentiment on MTF at the time reflected this. There's a big difference now with Federer being fresh, although I admit there are a lot of doubts about him.

jcempire
07-28-2008, 01:39 AM
Djoker will be back with a vengeance.

I hope it happen.

will Murray, simon, Davydenko and Gasquet play consistent well, I doubt it.

Henry Chinaski
07-28-2008, 01:40 AM
Did you follow that tournament in 2006?

It was public knowledge at the time that Federer was tired after winning Canada after four consecutive three-setters. Murray's win wasn't surprising, and I am sure the sentiment on MTF at the time reflected this. There's a big difference now with Federer being fresh, although I admit there are a lot of doubts about him.

yup think he lost to Hrbaty the pervious time he played Cinci after winning Canada.

When exactly does tennis start in the Olympics?

Mansave_75
07-28-2008, 01:45 AM
There are highly rumours on Spanish TV that Rafa could skip Cincy!
Let's hope it won't be true.

TankingTheSet
07-28-2008, 01:45 AM
After Cinci there is a week off then the Olympics. Only after the Olympics the Cinci 2007 ranking points come off so Nadal will probably be no. 1 then.

TankingTheSet
07-28-2008, 01:48 AM
There are highly rumours on Spanish TV that Rafa could skip Cincy!
Let's hope it won't be true.

Is it just speculation or are the sources reliable?

Henry Chinaski
07-28-2008, 01:50 AM
ok cheers. I don't see a surprise winner in that case. djok and fed's draws looks ok. good chance for murray to do more damage as well.

really though it's roddick's to lose.

Sunset of Age
07-28-2008, 02:04 AM
Did you follow that tournament in 2006?

Yes I did.

It was public knowledge at the time that Federer was tired after winning Canada after four consecutive three-setters. Murray's win wasn't surprising, and I am sure the sentiment on MTF at the time reflected this. There's a big difference now with Federer being fresh, although I admit there are a lot of doubts about him.

Fed indeed was physically tired there, no doubts about that.
But there's a BIG difference between the situations then-and-now. Fed perfectly knew he could allow himself to lose a match at Cincy 2006 (DISCLAIMER: I am NOT saying he tanked that match, let that be clear!), but the odds are pretty different now.

And I'm not so sure he's as fresh as you claim that he is. Physically, alright, but I don't really know what's going on in his mind right now, as there's so much on stake at the occasion this year... and the Mental part of the game might well be equally important to the physical part of it, if not more. ;)

Clydey
07-28-2008, 02:10 AM
Did you follow that tournament in 2006?

It was public knowledge at the time that Federer was tired after winning Canada after four consecutive three-setters. Murray's win wasn't surprising, and I am sure the sentiment on MTF at the time reflected this. There's a big difference now with Federer being fresh, although I admit there are a lot of doubts about him.

Basically, Murray has yet to beat Federer fairly? People need to stop making excuses for the top players. If a Gasquet or a Murray beats one of the big 3, there is always an excuse. However, if the big 3 beat Gasquet or Murray, you don't hear people going: "Gasquet didn't play his best".

If the top 3 lose, they lose. Not being at their best or aying they are tired isn't an excuse. You could make the same argument whenever a top 10 player loses. Hell, people even made excuses for Federer when he lost to Nalbandian, even though Federer simply couldn't have played any better in Paris. Nalbandian was just too good.

TankingTheSet
07-28-2008, 02:16 AM
Basically, Murray has yet to beat Federer fairly? People need to stop making excuses for the top players. If a Gasquet or a Murray beats one of the big 3, there is always an excuse. However, if the big 3 beat Gasquet or Murray, you don't hear people going: "Gasquet didn't play his best".

If the top 3 lose, they lose. Not being at their best or aying they are tired isn't an excuse. You could make the same argument whenever a top 10 player loses. Hell, people even made excuses for Federer when he lost to Nalbandian, even though Federer simply couldn't have played any better in Paris. Nalbandian was just too good.

I have nothing against Murray, but you are taking things out of context. The Federer of 2006 was "God-mode" Federer who barely lost a match at all. If they meet the coming week Murray has a good chance, there is a case to be made that Murray's game is awkard for Fed.

Clydey
07-28-2008, 02:41 AM
I have nothing against Murray, but you are taking things out of context. The Federer of 2006 was "God-mode" Federer who barely lost a match at all. If they meet the coming week Murray has a good chance, there is a case to be made that Murray's game is awkard for Fed.

I think it is awkward for Federer, since Murray plays nowhere near as aggressively as he does against Nadal. Federer can be so hit and miss at times that playing aggressively isn't the best option. Murray defends well and Federer has tended to give errors when the play. Whether or not that can be attributed to Murray, I don't know.

He has the same problem vs. Nadal. Both Murray and Nadal defend really well and are amongst the best passers in the game (I think Nadal has the best passing shots I've ever seen), so Federer's game of hitting the forehand and following up with the volley isn't as effective. It's even less effective when his forehand is off, as it has been recently.

On current form, I'd actually expect Murray to beat Federer, as he just seems so out of sorts just now. His game is just a bad match for Federer.

guga2120
07-28-2008, 03:05 AM
Novak to beat Roger in the final.

Rafa will take a dive, after a few matches, at most.

habibko
07-28-2008, 03:24 AM
there is no way Federer is losing to Djokovic anytime soon, now after making that clear I hope Fed wins this he really needs to do so badly, however if he didn't make it to the final I expect anyone to win it, the odds are pretty close for a change :rolleyes:

finishingmove
07-28-2008, 03:57 AM
Tomas Berdych.

berdych will lead his match 6-0 5-0 40-0 then a bird will shit over his shoulder and he'll selfdestruct

good to see davydenko with more votes than simon , that could change though.

osalsyst
07-28-2008, 04:11 AM
I honestly think this is Murray's for the taking. I think he'll beat Fed or Roddick in the semis and then dump the Djoker or Ferrer in the final. Rafa will lose to Ferrer I think. Fed is my second pick though. I hope Fed can find some kind of form this week. I'll be laughing like hell though if he doesn't.

Exodus
07-28-2008, 04:51 AM
marat safin

ChinoRios4Ever
07-28-2008, 04:55 AM
R. Federer

JolánGagó
07-28-2008, 05:00 AM
I wouldn't count on that, CD.

Neither would I although I seriously think he should skip Cinci in order to bust his already all-time high chances of taking the USOpen trophy home.

flower14
07-28-2008, 05:09 AM
My Fit Safin :)

JolánGagó
07-28-2008, 05:12 AM
In Nadal absence Pics will take the prize.

Deivid23
07-28-2008, 05:54 AM
Roger Federer

LBrock44
07-28-2008, 06:03 AM
Roger Federer or Andy Murray. Nadal is hot, he's the new number one in a week or two, but this court is the fastest hard court in North America, Federer is due and he knows it, and Murray, if he can pull his head out of his ass, may be able to win this. He's playing well at the moment and is hungry.

rafa_maniac
07-28-2008, 06:37 AM
Having success at Cinci after doing well in Canada is damn difficult it seems, even Federer in 06 form struggled, and these courts are super fast, so I expect an early loss for Rafa- R16 or QF. Doesn't matter for him, the ranking is assured in the near future anyway. I expect Federer to make his first hardcourt final of the year here with the draw he's been given. Who knows who his opponent will be, Djoko is leaving much to be desired at the moment. I'll go with Federer def Ferrer in the final.

gjr
07-28-2008, 07:57 AM
I think Murray has a great chance of making the final if he can get past Gasquet. If he gets there it depends who's on the other side of the net and what shape they are in.

Nole will beat him, Rafa may well be too tired and anyone else Murray will win.

Quite happy that Murray is in this quarter because soon I think he will be in that quarter for all the main events.

Indiana-4
07-28-2008, 09:09 AM
Novak Dj.

Damn
07-28-2008, 10:39 AM
berdych will lead his match 6-0 5-0 40-0 then a bird will shit over his shoulder and he'll selfdestruct

:haha: :rolls: :yeah:

JolánGagó
07-28-2008, 12:38 PM
berdych will lead his match 6-0 5-0 40-0 then a bird will shit over his shoulder and he'll selfdestruct


Do they have hanging dead birds in Cinci too? It could be lethal.

Chupakabra
07-28-2008, 12:40 PM
I have voted Davydenko to win Cincy...Don't know actually why,but since he won Miami this year,i think he has fairly good chance of winning this tourney cause it's one of that kind...But,most likely,it won't be him.I think it's either Rafa or Fed to win this,and i will give some chance to Novak if he manages to regain his old,excellent and recognizable shape on this type of surface...

Those are my favs for winning Cincy...

oranges
07-28-2008, 12:55 PM
Tsk, tsk, so much negativity towards Berdych for knocking out Nadal three times. I shudder to think what will happen if he does it again, but I'm guessing jokes won't cut it then. Voodoo dolls?

JolánGagó
07-28-2008, 01:02 PM
Tsk, tsk, so much negativity towards Berdych for knocking out Nadal three times.

They should state that as the highest achievement of his career, at least in the wiki. Sad that he's past his prime already.

finishingmove
07-28-2008, 01:07 PM
Tsk, tsk, so much negativity towards Berdych for knocking out Nadal three times.

:cuckoo:

if he does it again

:help: :tape:

ryan23
07-28-2008, 01:10 PM
Why is Simon even in this poll? the pusher will never win a MS or GS

Manon
07-28-2008, 01:25 PM
there is no way Federer is losing to Djokovic anytime soon

Wow, wow, there is 32 ways at least. And vice versa.

oranges
07-28-2008, 01:27 PM
:cuckoo:

You haven't noticed the eagerness with which the joke was embraced?

:help: :tape:

:zzz:

oranges
07-28-2008, 01:28 PM
They should state that as the highest achievement of his career, at least in the wiki. Sad that he's past his prime already.

There is no reason for you to worry then and harbor all those negative feelings, is there?

Burrow
07-28-2008, 01:28 PM
Did the 's' key on your keyboard break?

:confused:

Schuettler will win.

Sebby
07-28-2008, 01:31 PM
Why is Simon even in this poll? the pusher will never win a MS or GS

That's what I thought, he could/should have been in the "Dark Horse" category but that's not too serious ;)

finishingmove
07-28-2008, 01:34 PM
You haven't noticed the eagerness with which the joke was embraced?


:zzz:

what do berdych jokes have to do with nadal?

and he probably wont get past R1

PiggyGotRoasted
07-28-2008, 01:36 PM
Davydenko

oranges
07-28-2008, 01:40 PM
what do berdych jokes have to do with nadal?

Ask Jolansomething :lol: I'd be surprised if he didn't rep you for it.

and he probably wont get past R1

What can I say, we'll see. Gonzo is not exactly in top form either.

JolánGagó
07-28-2008, 01:42 PM
There is no reason for you to worry then and harbor all those negative feelings, is there?

There have never been anything to worry about. He is a a mediocre player, a bore and a sorry prick, those are not feelings but obvious facts. It is also a fact that he'll have nothing more special to mumble his grandchildren about than those three victories over a legend. His grandkids will be truly astonished of course.

scoobs
07-28-2008, 01:43 PM
Wont be Roger - he doesn't win it on an even year.

thelma
07-28-2008, 01:46 PM
Murray :)

JolánGagó
07-28-2008, 01:49 PM
Wont be Roger - he doesn't win it on an even year.

:lol::lol:

I truly despise your seemingly natural-born censor zeal but you win me over every time with your sense of humor, I must confess. :yeah:

oranges
07-28-2008, 01:51 PM
There have never been anything to worry about. He is a a mediocre player, a bore and a sorry prick, those are not feelings but obvious facts. It is also a fact that he'll have nothing more special to mumble his grandchildren about than those three victories over a legend. His grandkids will be truly astonished of course.

Like I said, let go of those negative feelings, you'll get ulcer. I'll make a few jokes myself if it'll help you. Relax, they cannot meet until the semis.

Burrow
07-28-2008, 01:59 PM
Roger Federer or Andy Murray. Nadal is hot, he's the new number one in a week or two, but this court is the fastest hard court in North America, Federer is due and he knows it, and Murray, if he can pull his head out of his ass, may be able to win this. He's playing well at the moment and is hungry.

:lol:

Murray isn't winning anything.

JolánGagó
07-28-2008, 02:01 PM
Like I said, let go of those negative feelings, you'll get ulcer. I'll make a few jokes myself if it'll help you. Relax, they cannot meet until the semis.

:lol::lol::lol:

Now that is a good joke.

So I can go and finally sleep in peace, thanx ;)

oranges
07-28-2008, 02:12 PM
:lol::lol::lol:

Now that is a good joke.

So I can go and finally sleep in peace, thanx ;)

Glad you like it. Perhaps it'll stop the bile.

BTW, any ill feelings toward Ancic lately over another matter?

JolánGagó
07-28-2008, 02:15 PM
BTW, any ill feelings toward Ancic lately over another matter?

I am supremely indiferent toward Ancic, he seems to be a nice guy though.

q.j.
07-28-2008, 02:43 PM
Nadal or Djokovic are going to take this, i would say
Novak is struggling that's for sure, but this loss to Andy is still much less of a surprise
than Roger's loss to Simon, i mean i was really really shocked by that one, cause i thought
that he'll never let something like that happen, even after a Wimby loss, but it happen...so my guess that even with this catwalk draw, he'll lose to Gasgay in semis
and the guy that emerges from the other half of the draw will take the title.

Pepi.
07-28-2008, 03:06 PM
Rafa :)

dylan24
07-28-2008, 03:07 PM
hopefully federer or djokovic

Corey Feldman
07-28-2008, 03:22 PM
Djokovic or Davydenko this week for sure

sphiie
07-28-2008, 03:27 PM
Must be Djokovic, Federer or Nadal. I would say Federer but with him... everything can happen. I just wish that Nadal will become the number one at the end of this tournament!!!

Fumus
07-28-2008, 03:27 PM
Fed will not win this title.

jonny84
07-28-2008, 03:46 PM
Nadal. I think he can take on everyone again and win. Federer is looking really shaky and I do believe that this will be the year in which he will be Masterless and Slamless.

I just hope Nadal wont burn out this summer with the Olympics and the US Open.

Manon
07-28-2008, 04:39 PM
If pure, clean tennis still exists Federer, maybe Novak.

platinum
07-28-2008, 05:53 PM
Fed will not win this title.

Agree.

Fumus
07-28-2008, 06:24 PM
Agree.

His hardcourt performance this year has been shit. Whoever is playing decent tennis this week is going to take him out. The surface is fast though so that should help him, he probably won't get beat by a pusher

...it really doesn't matter however, look at his year so far on hardcourts and tell me what reason anyone of us has to believe he's going to win this title...especially after last week's shittastic performance!

I'm looking for Gulbis or Wawrinka to win their first AMS title.

Sebby
07-28-2008, 06:52 PM
I'm looking for Gulbis or Wawrinka to win their first AMS title.

It would be a miracle, Wawrinka prefers slow surfaces.

r2473
07-28-2008, 07:03 PM
James Blake, John Isner, or Dr. Ivo.

Damn
07-28-2008, 07:32 PM
If pure, clean tennis still exists Federer, maybe Novak.

The pure and clean tennis was murdered by the Spartan King, remember? I recommend you to start praying for death.

Anyway, words Novak + pure + clean don't match in the same sentence.

Dr. Ivo

Good :worship:

John Isner

Even better :bowdown:

James Blake

Oh my... :spit:

prima donna
07-28-2008, 07:39 PM
Andrew Murray.

Sebby
07-28-2008, 07:42 PM
James Blake

Oh my... :spit:

Maybe he'll be the next to finally kick Nadal's ass, he LOVES to do it :devil:

prima donna
07-28-2008, 07:43 PM
His hardcourt performance this year has been shit. Whoever is playing decent tennis this week is going to take him out. The surface is fast though so that should help him, he probably won't get beat by a pusher

...it really doesn't matter however, look at his year so far on hardcourts and tell me what reason anyone of us has to believe he's going to win this title...especially after last week's shittastic performance!

I'm looking for Gulbis or Wawrinka to win their first AMS title.
How about Roddick ? Who shall humiliate him next ?

Manon
07-28-2008, 07:43 PM
The pure and clean tennis was murdered by the Spartan King, remember? I recommend you to start praying for death.

Anyway, words Novak + pure + clean don't match in the same sentence.




You know Novak? Good for you damn it. As for this 'Spartan', here - http://usera.imagecave.com/Manon/spliff.gif, just to stay in shape.

Fumus
07-28-2008, 07:47 PM
How about Roddick ? Who shall humiliate him next ?

I wouldn't talk about humilation if I had your favorite at the moment.

Sebby
07-28-2008, 07:50 PM
I wouldn't talk about humilation if I had your favorite at the moment.

OUCH! That's gotta hurt.

prima donna
07-28-2008, 07:57 PM
I wouldn't talk about humilation if I had your favorite at the moment.
The question isn't by any stretch of the imagination a rhetorical one, I'd like an honest answer as to who you foresee subjecting Roddick to his weekly battering -- Fed ruined Roddick's career, therefore the differences are stark, one having to do with 12 Grand Slams and the other having to do with incomparable vastly differing circumstances.

Tell us who you think will humiliate Andy this week. Let's hear it -- oh and by the way, does Roddick have another slam left in him ?

Fumus
07-28-2008, 08:07 PM
The question isn't by any stretch of the imagination a rhetorical one, I'd like an honest answer as to who you foresee subjecting Roddick to his weekly battering -- Fed ruined Roddick's career, therefore the differences are stark, one having to do with 12 Grand Slams and the other having to do with incomparable vastly differing situations.

Tell us who you think will humiliate Andy this week. Let's hear it -- oh and by the way, does Roddick have another slam left in him ?

It sucks doesn't it? and it only gets worse. Don't be bitter. :D

prima donna
07-28-2008, 08:10 PM
It sucks doesn't it? and it only gets worse. Don't be bitter. :D
That's fine, you don't have to answer the question, sooner or later you'll have to discuss tennis rather than attempting to demonstrate your supreme masculinity by stating the obvious.

I'm a daring man, so allow me make a bold prediction: Andy Roddick won't come close to winning Cincy.

r2473
07-28-2008, 08:15 PM
I'm a daring man, so allow me make a bold prediction: Andy Roddick won't come close to winning Cincy.

Roddick will lose to Fed in the Quarters. 7-6(4); 6-2.

Fumus
07-28-2008, 08:16 PM
That's fine, you don't have to answer the question, sooner or later you'll have to discuss tennis rather than attempting to demonstrate your supreme masculinity by stating the obvious.

I'm a daring man, so allow me make a prediction: Andy Roddick won't come close to winning Cincy.

That's a bold prediction. I have a prediction of my own...Federer won't be number 1 by the US Open. HA! I'm hilarious.

Don't you Federer fans have a support group, yet? I mean, you know I care about you guys I don't want you jumping out of any windows, or walking infront of any buses now. ;)

prima donna
07-28-2008, 08:23 PM
I mean, you know I care about you guys I don't want you jumping out of any windows, or walking infront of any buses now. ;)
Try a more subtle approach to humor. Moreover, I'm not interested in engaging in a virtual war consisting of the various fanbases which populate MTF -- I was simply hoping to discuss Roddick's chances not only for Cincy, but for this summer.

That seems to be out of the question. Thanks for your input.

prima donna
07-28-2008, 08:25 PM
Roddick will lose to Fed in the Quarters. 7-6(4); 6-2.
Roger won't make the quarters.

r2473
07-28-2008, 08:41 PM
Roger won't make the quarters.

Who on earth is going to beat him before that? Ivo?

Sebby
07-28-2008, 08:55 PM
Who on earth is going to beat him before that? Ivo?

Himself if you know what I mean.

richie21
07-28-2008, 09:05 PM
Federer's half of draw will be very interesting: will youngsters on the rise like Murray or Gasquet take advantage of Federer's (temporary?)current bad form or will the real Federer show up?

prima donna
07-28-2008, 09:16 PM
Federer's half of draw will be very interesting: will youngsters on the rise like Murray or Gasquet take advantage of Federer's (temporary?)current bad form or will the real Federer show up?
Roger isn't beating Murray with his current form.

r2473
07-28-2008, 09:23 PM
Roger isn't beating Murray with his current form.

Rog won't face Murray until the Semis.......and Rog "won't make the quarters".

richie21
07-28-2008, 09:25 PM
Roger isn't beating Murray with his current form.

Nor is he beating Gasquet with his current form to be honest(note that Gasquet was the only one to take a set from Nadal last week): i mean,if even Gilles Simon can beat him..... :help:
But it's almost impossible that he won't play better than he did against Simon.......or perhaps we are hugely underestimating the effects of this loss in Wimbledon final on Fed's mind??

NadalSharapova
07-28-2008, 10:39 PM
betfair have nadal as the favourite

Sunset of Age
07-28-2008, 10:41 PM
betfair have nadal as the favourite

That sounds very sensible.

Manon
07-28-2008, 10:53 PM
Betfair gave Bryans 1.85 and Nestor/Zimonjic 2.90 yesterday...

Federer or Novak!

Halba
07-28-2008, 10:55 PM
nadal- courts are quick but not that quick

prima donna
07-28-2008, 11:12 PM
Nor is he beating Gasquet with his current form to be honest(note that Gasquet was the only one to take a set from Nadal last week): i mean,if even Gilles Simon can beat him..... :help:
But it's almost impossible that he won't play better than he did against Simon.......or perhaps we are hugely underestimating the effects of this loss in Wimbledon final on Fed's mind??
Roger isn't losing to Gasquet, Richie.

Sorry.

richie21
07-28-2008, 11:19 PM
Roger isn't losing to Gasquet, Richie.

Sorry.

If even a 18 year old Gasquet could beat a Federer who was still at his peak then why not the current in-form Gasquet (who beat Ferrer in straight sets and took a set from the "invincible" Nadal) against a Federer in decline who just lost to Gilles Simon(ffs!)?:rolleyes:

prima donna
07-28-2008, 11:23 PM
If even a 18 year old Gasquet could beat a Federer who was still at his peak then why not the current in-form Gasquet against a Federer in decline who just lost to Gilles Simon(ffs!)?:rolleyes:
This is what is commonly referred to as a 'fluke'.

Roger is 6-0 against Gasquet since that match.

richie21
07-28-2008, 11:26 PM
This is what is commonly referred to as a 'fluke'.

Roger is 6-0 against Gasquet since that match.

Yeah but we are talking about the current Roger,not the one of the last few years.
This year ,Roger even managed to lose to his favourite bitch ,Roddick!

Pfloyd
07-28-2008, 11:26 PM
This is what is commonly referred to as a 'fluke'.

Roger is 6-0 against Gasquet since that match.

I kinda agree with you.

Roger has the firepower to beat Gasquet no doubt.

But the best match I've ever seen Gasquet play was that one time Monte Carlo, he was just being ridiculous with all his winners from both sides.

If Gasquet could keep that level for a long time, he would be top 4, no doubt.

But then again the same thing can be said about a bunch of other players.

But Gasquet when on is a plesure to watch, IMO.

prima donna
07-28-2008, 11:30 PM
I love Gasquet's game, but if he were to meet Roger, he'd most likely play a match similar to that played by Marcos Baghdatis last year against Roger at this very tournament, which consisted of lots of choking followed by occasional brilliance, but in the end a victory by the world #1.

richie21
07-28-2008, 11:30 PM
I kinda agree with you.

Roger has the firepower to beat Gasquet no doubt.

But the best match I've ever seen Gasquet play was that one time Monte Carlo, he was just being ridiculous with all his winners from both sides.
If Gasquet could keep that level for a long time, he would be top 4, no doubt.

But then again the same thing can be said about a bunch of other players.

But Gasquet when on is a plesure to watch, IMO.


He played better against Murray during 2 sets and half in last Wimbledon.
Also Gasquet was only 18 when he beat Federer and logically(although it's a dangerous word),you don't achieve your peak at 18 so it's not crazy to think that at one point, he'll become a better player(if he is not already becoming) and show an even better level of play than what he showed at 18.

richie21
07-28-2008, 11:34 PM
I love Gasquet's game, but if he were to meet Roger, he'd most likely play a match similar to that played by Marcos Baghdatis last year against Roger at this very tournament, which consisted of lots of choking followed by occasional brilliance, but in the end a victory by the world #1.


Although i like Marcos,and even though Gasquet is not himself very consistent,i think you just can't compare their respective level of consistency.
Also,i remember this match quite well because it was a really shoking match from BOTH players and had Federer played like that against the Gasquet of last week or the Gasquet he faced in other matches(like in Toronto in 2006),he would have lost ,fair and simple.

When you see some of the players who beat Federer this year(Simon,Fish,Stepanek),it's ridiculous to think that an in form and very improved Gasquet has no chance against him basing on Federer's current form.

Also i don't think you should read too much on the previous H2Hs(just look at what happened beetween Djokovic and Murray last week),especially when it concerns 2 players of a very different generation and when it's the older player who is leading the H2H.
You are deluded if you think Federer will not lose anymore against Gasquet(and knowing Federer and his admiration for Gasquet's game,i'm sure he would himself tell you the same).

betuchan
07-28-2008, 11:37 PM
Rafael Nadal :D

Pfloyd
07-28-2008, 11:43 PM
I love Gasquet's game, but if he were to meet Roger, he'd most likely play a match similar to that played by Marcos Baghdatis last year against Roger at this very tournament, which consisted of lots of choking followed by occasional brilliance, but in the end a victory by the world #1.

True.

But Baghdatis is a worse headcase IMO.

The guy, as fun as it is to see him play well (for me), dosent have a bright career ahead of him, I think.

Gasquet can play a good tournament in his lifetime and win a slam or maybe a couple of Master Series.

Matt01
07-29-2008, 12:10 AM
Tell us who you think will humiliate Andy this week. Let's hear it -- oh and by the way, does Roddick have another slam left in him ?


Probably none 'cause his game sucks big time. It could be still enough a beat a slumping Federer, though. :eek: