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*Ljubica*
08-03-2008, 10:29 PM
I'll bet with him I am more depressed. He was laughing and I couldn't speak, breath, talk, I had to take 5mg benzodiazepamin (tranquilizer as you know). Did I deserve such a stress, did my old mother deserve yelling from me coz she called in the begining of the first TB?

I am so not well:

1. This grose pale guy was at his best
2. Novak was at his worst (he even can't imagine to be worse than tonight)

3. I love you all but I hate life.

:hug: Tomorrow is another day. Nole will be fine tomorrow - and so will you. And I'm sure your Mother will understand :hug: Don't worry so much:hug:

scoobs
08-03-2008, 10:30 PM
:hug: Rosie and everyone else.

Appreciate you coming over and saying Congrats, Rosie, and so I'm coming over to say commiserations. Novak couldn't quite get it done today but given how down you all were at the start of the week, a final appearance is cause for a little hope, is it not...

Time for some rest and I'm sure the Olympics will get him very fired up so there's plenty more to come!

*Ljubica*
08-03-2008, 10:52 PM
:hug: Rosie and everyone else.

Appreciate you coming over and saying Congrats, Rosie, and so I'm coming over to say commiserations. Novak couldn't quite get it done today but given how down you all were at the start of the week, a final appearance is cause for a little hope, is it not...

Time for some rest and I'm sure the Olympics will get him very fired up so there's plenty more to come!

Thanks - I appreciate it :hug: And I hope you're right. Now time for me to go to sleep :zzz: Thanks again scoobs :hug:

star
08-03-2008, 10:53 PM
Garrrr

Watching that match was like torture! I think I'm going to call it "tennisboarding."

It was psychological warfare out there and Andy was tougher mentally and physically too, I think. I spent a lot of the first half of the first set cursing at Djokovic, but then I could see where it was headed and just endured. I appreciate Djokovic fighting until the bitter end.

Bottom line, Murray played better today totally deserved the win. I only hope that Djokovic can take lessons from this, and I think the lessons are more about his mental game than anything else.

*Raine
08-03-2008, 11:18 PM
I couldn't tell, but I don't think so. He seemed to just being composing himself and trying to get the sweat off.

Murray was definitely more consistent and deserved to win because of that. Nole needs to learn to not be as nervous on final days as he tends to be (I'm sure that's no easy task!) Players tend to take advantage of this against him (like Tsonga in AO, Wawrinka in Rome, and now Murray).

Oh, well. At least he made a better result against Murray today than last week, even though he lost both. He'll figure it out. (It is weird that now Murray is someone he has to figure out how to play now, though. :sad:)

:sad:

I agree it was a better result against Murray today than last week.I love how he composed himself a bit when Murray was serving for the championship point. I love how that moment made me so nervous. It's like watching a penalty shootout during the Man U and Chelsea match.

Alex999
08-03-2008, 11:30 PM
I'll bet with him I am more depressed. He was laughing and I couldn't speak, breath, talk, I had to take 5mg benzodiazepamin (tranquilizer as you know). Did I deserve such a stress, did my old mother deserve yelling from me coz she called in the begining of the first TB?

I am so not well:

1. This grose pale guy was at his best
2. Novak was at his worst (he even can't imagine to be worse than tonight)

3. I love you all but I hate life.

hang in there bud. I almost had tears in my eyes, I couldn't believe it. I wanted him to win this so much. It wasn't meant to be, not today :sad: (oh I guess I'm back here :))

arm
08-03-2008, 11:38 PM
hang in there bud. I almost had tears in my eyes, I couldn't believe it. I wanted him to win this so much. It wasn't meant to be, not today :sad: (oh I guess I'm back here :))

:hug: It's so good to have you here. :hug:

dejosav
08-03-2008, 11:42 PM
:hug: Rosie and everyone else.

Appreciate you coming over and saying Congrats, Rosie, and so I'm coming over to say commiserations.
Tnx for coming, and congrats to Andy, he really deserved to win something big finally.

Novak couldn't quite get it done today but given how down you all were at the start of the week, a final appearance is cause for a little hope, is it not...
To some degree yes, at least he looked like earlier this year against Rafa. But losing in finals in big tournaments is always the worst, at least for me. I don't mind much Safin, Anderson and others as he wasn't even near the title, and i don't care that much for ranking either. Losses at USO and IW last year, and now this one are bad ones. Anyway, if he had to lose, i'm glad he lost to Andy, he is among players i do like.

Time for some rest and I'm sure the Olympics will get him very fired up so there's plenty more to come!
Ermmm, i hope i won't get flamed here, but i don't give a shit about tennis at Olympics , i wish he could skip that and prepare better for (revenge ;)) USO.

Alex999
08-03-2008, 11:42 PM
:hug: It's so good to have you here. :hug:
Thanks Arm :hug:

Pepi.
08-03-2008, 11:43 PM
Nole :sad:

savesthedizzle
08-03-2008, 11:46 PM
hang in there bud. I almost had tears in my eyes, I couldn't believe it. I wanted him to win this so much. It wasn't meant to be, not today :sad: (oh I guess I'm back here :))

:hug: :wavey:

Alex999
08-03-2008, 11:54 PM
:hug: :wavey:
:bigwave::hug: I felt a little bit lonely on the other board, I need some good company so I'll try to participate here more often although I don't think I'll go anywhere close to GM :).

neenah
08-03-2008, 11:55 PM
:hug: Rosie and everyone else.

Appreciate you coming over and saying Congrats, Rosie, and so I'm coming over to say commiserations. Novak couldn't quite get it done today but given how down you all were at the start of the week, a final appearance is cause for a little hope, is it not...

Time for some rest and I'm sure the Olympics will get him very fired up so there's plenty more to come!

:wavey: :)

arm
08-04-2008, 12:05 AM
:bigwave::hug: I felt a little bit lonely on the other board, I need some good company so I'll try to participate here more often although I don't think I'll go anywhere close to GM :).

That would be cool! Who need GM when we have Nole's forum? :D

savesthedizzle
08-04-2008, 12:20 AM
:bigwave::hug: I felt a little bit lonely on the other board, I need some good company so I'll try to participate here more often although I don't think I'll go anywhere close to GM :).

That would be cool! Who need GM when we have Nole's forum? :D

Exactly what she said :)

We would love to have you here more often :D

Alex999
08-04-2008, 12:22 AM
Exactly what she said :)

We would love to have you here more often :D
Thank you guys :hug:.

Lee
08-04-2008, 12:25 AM
:bigwave::hug: I felt a little bit lonely on the other board, I need some good company so I'll try to participate here more often although I don't think I'll go anywhere close to GM :).

That would be cool! Who need GM when we have Nole's forum? :D

Exactly what she said :)

We would love to have you here more often :D

Atta girls! :yeah:

Welcome Alex and next time I am in Calgary, I should look you up :lol:

Lee
08-04-2008, 12:27 AM
I didn't read back so I just post this for every Nole fans here.

http://img2.menstennisforums.com/753/grouphug.jpg

Alex999
08-04-2008, 01:04 AM
I didn't read back so I just post this for every Nole fans here.

http://img2.menstennisforums.com/753/grouphug.jpg

Thanks Lee, lol. I love it.

savesthedizzle
08-04-2008, 02:34 AM
Ah well, Andy can have Cincy, Novak will win USO. :rocker2:

Too many damn Scots in GM all of a sudden.

There really are :rolls:

Makes me want to use the Scottish flag myself :lol: It wouldn't be the first time... :lol:

*Raine
08-04-2008, 04:42 AM
I love the hug they shared, the little chats and the good luck they said to each other :)

I was like "awww"

but-it's-ok
08-04-2008, 07:03 AM
:awww:Nole. I loved the hug and chats they shared too:) A good tournament,giving him confidence for the Olympics:) Adje Nole:worship:

*Raine
08-04-2008, 09:00 AM
On to Olympics and US OPEN then.. :)

It was also cute when Nole tried to take the trophy away from Andy. :D

Funny speech as well.

*Ljubica*
08-04-2008, 10:33 AM
:bigwave::hug: I felt a little bit lonely on the other board, I need some good company so I'll try to participate here more often although I don't think I'll go anywhere close to GM :).

Alex :hug: Nice to have you back :hug: As for GM - not worth your time :)

rocketassist
08-04-2008, 12:47 PM
Howdy- not one normally to visit here, but I thought Novak was very graceful yesterday in defeat and the match was played in a very good spirit. Cheers to all Novak fans for the congratulations :yeah:

*Ljubica*
08-04-2008, 12:48 PM
Thank you - much appreciated - and congrats again to Andy.

decrepitude
08-04-2008, 03:11 PM
Howdy- not one normally to visit here, but I thought Novak was very graceful yesterday in defeat and the match was played in a very good spirit. Cheers to all Novak fans for the congratulations :yeah:
I came to do exactly the same thing! I used to dislike Nole, but recently have been coming around to him, and last night I found myself quite liking him for the first time.

Good luck to both our lads in Olympics and USO.

*Ljubica*
08-04-2008, 03:58 PM
I came to do exactly the same thing! I used to dislike Nole, but recently have been coming around to him, and last night I found myself quite liking him for the first time.

Good luck to both our lads in Olympics and USO.

Thanks to you as well :hug: There are always two sides to every story :)

savesthedizzle
08-04-2008, 06:37 PM
Howdy- not one normally to visit here, but I thought Novak was very graceful yesterday in defeat and the match was played in a very good spirit. Cheers to all Novak fans for the congratulations :yeah:

I came to do exactly the same thing! I used to dislike Nole, but recently have been coming around to him, and last night I found myself quite liking him for the first time.

Good luck to both our lads in Olympics and USO.

Thanks Joey and decrepitude :)

I'm seriously just hoping Andy is on the other side of both draws :rolls: I don't want to mess with him while he's playing so well :) Give me Federer! Give me Nadal! But do NOT give me Andy Murray! :rolls:

zaineb
08-05-2008, 12:13 AM
What a shame for Novak. Did he play well though? I startled an old couple at the bar I work in when I checked the final score on my phone and shouted. Oh well, hopefully he will play as well as he has done of late at the US Open. Guess I should be a little proud of my fellow Scot!

Alex999
08-05-2008, 03:01 AM
What a shame for Novak. Did he play well though? I startled an old couple at the bar I work in when I checked the final score on my phone and shouted. Oh well, hopefully he will play as well as he has done of late at the US Open. Guess I should be a little proud of my fellow Scot!
He didn't :sad:.

Scotso
08-05-2008, 06:01 AM
Nole's attitude was pretty awful. I don't like him much when he's like that.

He also almost never wins when he's pouty on court like he was in the final. He seriously needs to cut that crap out.

kalisita
08-05-2008, 06:06 AM
Nole's attitude was pretty awful. I don't like him much when he's like that.

He also almost never wins when he's pouty on court like he was in the final. He seriously needs to cut that crap out.

I agree. He lets his emotions get the best of him. I thought Steve Tignor wrote a good article wrapping up Cincy that disscussed how it impairs his play. Here's the link in case you want to check it out: http://tennisworld.typepad.com/thewrap/2008/08/whos-the-pigeon.html

Alex999
08-05-2008, 03:35 PM
I agree. He lets his emotions get the best of him. I thought Steve Tignor wrote a good article wrapping up Cincy that disscussed how it impairs his play. Here's the link in case you want to check it out: http://tennisworld.typepad.com/thewrap/2008/08/whos-the-pigeon.html

Good analysis by Tignor. Thanks Kalista. Here are some parts of the article I agree.

Djokovic had been scintillating the night before in beating Nadal. But there had been something a little too flashy about the way he went about it. The down-the-line forehand winners he kept firing past the Spaniard from outside of the court were not shots that anyone, including Djokovic, can keep hitting on a regular basisóas someone once said of the way Jimmy Connors hit backhand winners, the Serb seemed to think his shots were worth two points each. By the middle of the second set the next day, Djokovic had traveled 180 degrees in the other direction. As in Toronto, he couldnít keep two consecutive forehands in the court against Murray. He spent the rest of the set fighting himself, his racquet, and even his normally trusty backhand, which he began to spray almost in imitation of his forehand. Only his serve allowed him to remain anywhere near Murray.

Part of this was physical. Djokovic was breathing hard early in the match and looked exhausted by the end. But I donít think that was the decisive factor. Iíve said in the past that he carries a dangerous amount of frustration with him during his matchesóthink of it as a debt load that, on occasion, he canít pay off. On Sunday ESPNís Darren Cahill took this observation one step further. He noted during the second set that Djokovic had let his frustration overwhelm him to the point where he had checked out competitively and conceded that it wasnít his day. Iíd never thought of it quite that way, but itís a trend with the Serb when things arenít going well. The dissatisfaction gets to be too much, and he pulls a mental trigger. Sometimes he calls it a day completely (see his match against Federer in Monte Carlo), sometimes he chucks in his now obligatory drop shot when heís down match point. Djokovic did that again on Sunday, except that the ball skimmed the tape and ended up winning him the point and eventually the game. Thatís how the entire second set went for Djokovic; as Cahill noted, the more the Serb conceded, the more relaxed his shots became, and the better he played. Djokovic saved four match points at 3-5 and extended the final tiebreaker all the way to 7-5. Looking desperate to lose the set most of the time, he very nearly ended up winning it.

This is a different version of the Djokovic that I was writing about as recently as May. Regarding his recently-erratic forehand, maybe itís Murrayís defensive speed that forces him to try for too much, or maybe that little flourish at the top of his backswing really does hurt its consistency. Djokovic can hit flashy winners from that side, but now we know that it can go off and bring down his entire game. More important was his mental approach to Sundayís final. This wasnít the same guy who was so uncannily confident, organized, and psychologically uncluttered at the U.S. and Australian Opens. Whatís changed? Iíd chalk it up to the expectations game. At those events, Djokovic was still the hunter; he had encountered almost no resistance on his shockingly smooth ride up to No. 3 in the world and a Grand Slam title. But that ended when he couldnít pass Nadal this spring; since then heís had to deal with defending his own position rather than hunting anyone down. He hasn't been quite the same player, first at Wimbledon and now against Murray. Maybe this is the downside of having such innate and uncanny confidence. When Djokovicís game doesnít match his own very high expectations for it, he reacts with an unsustainable and unproductive frustration.

arm
08-05-2008, 03:44 PM
Thanks, Alex! :hug: It's soo true. I just hope he could read this.