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Toronto-QF: A. Murray destroys N. Djokovic 6-3, 7-6(3)

federernadalfan
07-26-2008, 01:57 AM
Another upset of this tournament. Wow. Murray's juiced up first and second serves, along with multiple UE of djoko's FH put murray in a more advantageous position throughout the match. One time he hit a 181 kph second serve to djoko's FH. Pretty impressive guts. Murray looked good all throughout the match. Stood inside the baseline and keeping pressure on Djoko. Djoko on the otherhand looked vulnerable. Very good job Murray and congrats on reaching the SF. :)

LinkMage
07-26-2008, 01:58 AM
What a horrible performance by Djokovic.

Congrats Murray!



Hand the title to Rafito. :zzz:

adee-gee
07-26-2008, 01:58 AM
:banana: :woohoo: :aparty:

Sweet revenge at last :worship:

Certainly not Djokovic's best display, forehand was dire. Murray returned brilliantly, Djokovic couldn't get a cheap point. Some incredible points from Andy but even he wasn't at his best, another huge moment in his career to follow the Gasquet match :D

Pfloyd
07-26-2008, 01:58 AM
Hahaha, told you so.

Djoko was inconsistant, and Murray was quite good.

Some nice points in the 2nd set :yeah:

Pfloyd
07-26-2008, 01:58 AM
Djoko loses some points too.

GlennMirnyi
07-26-2008, 01:59 AM
Will Murray finally man up and beat Nadull tomorrow? :p

groundstroke
07-26-2008, 01:59 AM
Stunning stuff from Murray. Djokovic couldn't finish the points.

MIMIC
07-26-2008, 01:59 AM
Destroys? :haha: Is that that Federer loss hangover talking?

finishingmove
07-26-2008, 01:59 AM
is andy murray the new lleyton hewitt?

my0118
07-26-2008, 01:59 AM
Congrats Murray :yeah:

Xenosys
07-26-2008, 01:59 AM
Nicee Muzza. Your FS % at 36 was shocking second set, Djokovic played poorly throughout, but a win is a win. Good luck for the semi-final.

rafaelsafin
07-26-2008, 01:59 AM
congrats Andy...

Deivid23
07-26-2008, 01:59 AM
Very well played Andy, you are too good of a player to lose for 5th time to Nole :worship:

richie21
07-26-2008, 02:00 AM
YES!!!!!!!!!!
Well done Andy!!:worship:

Not the greatest match but there was some good moments.
The Djoker dominated most of the rallies but at the end ,he got done by Murray's defense and variation

Voo de Mar
07-26-2008, 02:00 AM
Very good level of play :yeah: In this form Murray is 4th player in the world.

MIMIC
07-26-2008, 02:00 AM
Good job from Murray. Djokovic was just ridiculous with the UEs and Murray just kept hanging in there.

elessar
07-26-2008, 02:00 AM
Will Murray finally man up and beat Nadull tomorrow? :p
He'll be playing Gasquet :cool:

Well done Murray, not a great performance by Djokovic by any means though

adee-gee
07-26-2008, 02:00 AM
Will Murray finally man up and beat Nadull tomorrow? :p
How about we enjoy today's victory?

Brilliant returning display from Andy, probably the best I've seen anyone return Djokovic's serve. Great variation on the serve and in rallies. A beautiful victory :inlove:

flower14
07-26-2008, 02:00 AM
La La La La La

party time!!!

rocketassist
07-26-2008, 02:00 AM
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Clydey
07-26-2008, 02:00 AM
I thought Murray was excellent tonight. He was aggressive and defended so well. Djokovic put in a few errors, but did look to run out of ideas towards the end, which is surprising. At least Andy has that monkey off his back now.

Pfloyd
07-26-2008, 02:00 AM
It was only a matter of time, I think.

Murray can play nice at times.

habibko
07-26-2008, 02:01 AM
the way murray read Djoko's serves all the time... that made the difference tonight :worship:

~*BGT*~
07-26-2008, 02:01 AM
Not Djokovic; he's never defended a title.

:p:p:p

Congrats Murray and thanks for the v-cash. :yeah:

DhammaTiger
07-26-2008, 02:01 AM
I lost money :sad: Anyway congratulations to Andy Murray and commiserations to Novak. When I saw him playing, I thought no one could beat Novak. But who am I to say anything like that. As my coach said to me," The ball is round and the person across the net has a racket, so, don't think you are the only one on the court>"

Rogieva
07-26-2008, 02:01 AM
Lol, 5 threads.

Good match from Muzza, still too passive for my liking but done.

Allegretto
07-26-2008, 02:01 AM
Shouldn't have needed a tiebreak, but a good win.

Vida
07-26-2008, 02:01 AM
its the outfit...

Duncan
07-26-2008, 02:02 AM
That's the Andy i have been waiting to see all year!

Great match, well worth staying up til 2am for.

If he plays like that tomorrow he has a great change against whoever!

GlennMirnyi
07-26-2008, 02:02 AM
How about we enjoy today's victory?

Brilliant returning display from Andy, probably the best I've seen anyone return Djokovic's serve. Great variation on the serve and in rallies. A beautiful victory :inlove:

This victory won't mean anything if he's punched 2 and 2 tomorrow.

Sunset of Age
07-26-2008, 02:02 AM
FANTASTIC performance from Muzza!!!

:bounce: :banana: :bounce: :banana: :bounce:

Finally, he meets my long overdue expectations. Let it be clear: I truly acknowledge Djoko's game, and he put on a great game as well... but I'm so happy to see Muzza get through, as I happen to think (silly me :silly:), that he's indeed got the talent and the ability to make him a GREAT player indeed.

Two years ago I posted that he reminded me of a young Fed. I fully stand behind that, right now! :yeah:

rhinooooo
07-26-2008, 02:02 AM
Excellent performance from Murray. A well deserved winner. Finally played with some aggression, looking to take the ball early. He attacked well, and defended incredibly.

Djoko was poor though. Very disjointed performance from him.

Pfloyd
07-26-2008, 02:02 AM
Lol, 5 threads.

Good match from Muzza, still too passive for my liking but done.

Toronto is a weird tournament when coming to top seeds losing, most of the time.

richie21
07-26-2008, 02:02 AM
Will Murray finally man up and beat Nadull tomorrow? :p


or Gasquet

Goonergal
07-26-2008, 02:02 AM
At last :angel: Congrats Andy, now to the finals please ;)

Ilovetheblues_86
07-26-2008, 02:03 AM
Murray is playing so good, everything he needs to do on court he does, it´s like guiding a player with your mental power by watching tv and he does everything you know he needs to do. Excellent!

nashty
07-26-2008, 02:03 AM
And Djokovic was unable to defend his title....again.

danton
07-26-2008, 02:03 AM
Barry Cowan - Murray will not win unless he serves 60% or more good serves.

Murray managed 41% today.

My little toenail is a bigger tennis expert than Cowan.

federernadalfan
07-26-2008, 02:03 AM
his first serve percentage was low though, it was the better rallies that won him the match. His second serves were pretty impressive at times.

lazyman
07-26-2008, 02:03 AM
Very good level of play :yeah: In this form Murray is 4th player in the world.

possibly 2nd if he keeps this up and roger continues to play like crap

muniu
07-26-2008, 02:03 AM
:haha: sorry but it wasn't very good level of play , credit to Murray , great fight
Novak Djokoutovic :lol: that was very bad , so many stupid Ue's ,wasted sp ,and this volley on MP :lol:
Gl in Cincinatti

groundstroke
07-26-2008, 02:03 AM
He's not really a young Federer, Gasquet is more like Federer. Murray is a bit like Agassi, IMO.

GlennMirnyi
07-26-2008, 02:03 AM
or Gasquet

Yeah right. :lol:

Lee
07-26-2008, 02:03 AM
Great match Murray. Took Nole out of his comfort zone right from the beginning. Very deserved winner tonight.

Good luck vs Nadal though. He has to turn the tide vs him just like tonight's match vs Djokovic.

rocketassist
07-26-2008, 02:04 AM
NOW WIN THE THING :banana:

DhammaTiger
07-26-2008, 02:04 AM
5 threads, :yippee: GM is outdoing itself.

adee-gee
07-26-2008, 02:04 AM
This victory won't mean anything if he's punched 2 and 2 tomorrow.
To you maybe, but to Murray fans it means a lot whatever happens tomorrow.

And Murray himself - "mentally it's the best victory of my career".

GlennMirnyi
07-26-2008, 02:04 AM
Faker is managing to outperform Roddick as the worst volleyer of the top 50. :worship:

choppaa
07-26-2008, 02:04 AM
Djoko could beat Murray but he coudn't beat Murray + himself. Pathetic performance from Djokovic from the begining of the match. Deserved win for Murray.

Jimnik
07-26-2008, 02:04 AM
Great result for Muzza. Not unexpected at all. He's unquestionably the most talented of his generation.

When I'm right I'm right:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?p=7393323#post7393323 :banana:

MTF's jinxing powers supercede H2Hs and match-ups.

freeandlonely
07-26-2008, 02:04 AM
Congrats to Murray.
I thought Djokovic to win but I didn't understand why so many write Murray off as if he is nothing.
I used to dislike his style but he is not just only a moonballer anymore, no?

tennis lover
07-26-2008, 02:04 AM
Congrats to Murray. I only saw the tie break but he seemed to be the better player on the day by far. :yeah: Nole and those damn dropshots! :sobbing:
Will Murray finally man up and beat Nadull tomorrow? :p
why don't we wait until Nadal has played his match before we start with this? :)

GlennMirnyi
07-26-2008, 02:05 AM
To you maybe, but to Murray fans it means a lot.

And Murray himself - "mentally it's the best victory of my career".

He beat a Faker who's not exactly playing anything unusual and who's a mental gimp when it comes to defending titles, so...

Merton
07-26-2008, 02:05 AM
Excellent counter-punching display from Andy, great defense and he protected his 2nd serve very well throughout the match. Djokovic was dire at the net.

Sunset of Age
07-26-2008, 02:06 AM
He's not really a young Federer, Gasquet is more like Federer. Murray is a bit like Agassi, IMO.

Whatever... I am so happy he's finally managed to show those GUTS and defeat a top player.

And I still think he's the Real Deal, yes. Mock me, if you want. :p

sdtoot
07-26-2008, 02:06 AM
Hanging in tough......thats what we've been wanting Andy. Good luck in the SF's.

Perfection
07-26-2008, 02:06 AM
:rolleyes: Novak

luie
07-26-2008, 02:07 AM
Yeesssssssssssssssss I Love Murray.

Corey Feldman
07-26-2008, 02:07 AM
:lol:

i knew all my negative thoughts about this match would result in a win this time - it never fails

way to go A-Muz :yeah: that was more like how you should play the top pro's

adee-gee
07-26-2008, 02:07 AM
He beat a Faker who's not exactly playing anything unusual and who's a mental gimp when it comes to defending titles, so...
Who had thumped him every time they'd played.....

Massive moment, you can bring your usual pessimism to the table but it won't take anything away from the win ;)

hablovah19
07-26-2008, 02:07 AM
:woohoo:

jasmin
07-26-2008, 02:07 AM
Good for Andy. Well Djokovic played better since they went 7/6 in the 2nd set so it wasn't a beat down.

Greatness
07-26-2008, 02:08 AM
Solid match from Murray: he was far more consistent during the long rallies.
Djokovic's loss is similar to that of Federer in terms of the body language they had, it's as if they didn't give a damn at all about being on the court.

RogandyFan
07-26-2008, 02:08 AM
:devil:Yay Andy won. Nole didn't really show up though. Now I can go participate in that hater thread or bring it up haha :devil: :devil:

Clydey
07-26-2008, 02:09 AM
Whatever... I am so happy he's finally managed to show those GUTS and defeat a top player.

And I still think he's the Real Deal, yes. Mock me, if you want. :p

Delighted, too. More than anything, it's a mental barrier he's overcome. And, to be honest, he outplayed Djokovic. It's not like Nole was spraying errors everywhere. Murray's defence was just on another planet tonight and Djokovic kept going for too much. Plus, he showed some aggression. Overall, very pleasing.

Vida
07-26-2008, 02:09 AM
He got a Djoko monkey off his back finally. Great play, imposed himself and draw DJoko into errors. This one reminded me of Nole-Wawrinka at IW, only with a different outcome.

DDrago2
07-26-2008, 02:09 AM
Surprise, who would think Murray will do it

GlennMirnyi
07-26-2008, 02:10 AM
Who had thumped him every time they'd played.....

Massive moment, you can bring your usual pessimism to the table but it won't take anything away from the win ;)

I'm not being pessimistic, just realistic.

It doesn't matter to you because you actually prefer Nadull to win, but I doubt Murray non-Nadull fans think like you.

Vida
07-26-2008, 02:10 AM
Delighted, too. More than anything, it's a mental barrier he's overcome. And, to be honest, he outplayed Djokovic. It's not like Nole was spraying errors everywhere. Murray's defence was just on another planet tonight and Djokovic kept going for too much. Plus, he showed some aggression. Overall, very pleasing.

to be fair, this is not completely true. 30 something... though Andy caused most of them. Djokovic even managed to serve into stands.

Sunset of Age
07-26-2008, 02:11 AM
Delighted, too. More than anything, it's a mental barrier he's overcome. And, to be honest, he outplayed Djokovic. It's not like Nole was spraying errors everywhere. Murray's defence was just on another planet tonight and Djokovic kept going for too much. Plus, he showed some aggression. Overall, very pleasing.

Fully, fully agree. Fantastic performance by Teh Muzza! :D

adee-gee
07-26-2008, 02:11 AM
Whatever... I am so happy he's finally managed to show those GUTS and defeat a top player.
:D Karin, I'm happy to see you've acknowledged that Federer isn't a top player ;) :p
Good for Andy. Well Djokovic played better since they went 7/6 in the 2nd set so it wasn't a beat down.
Should've been easier, if Muzza had hit his forehand at 4-2 break point, he probably would've won 4 and 2.

Clydey
07-26-2008, 02:11 AM
I'm not being pessimistic, just realistic.

It doesn't matter to you because you actually prefer Nadull to win, but I doubt Murray non-Nadull fans think like you.

I certainly think he has a better chance on hard than he did on grass, but we'll see what happens. I'm still pulling for Gasquet to get through. He has the game to beat Nadal.

Voo de Mar
07-26-2008, 02:11 AM
Murray served 2nd serve 174 km/h (or something like this) on the line at setpoint for Djokovic - this is the way to win important matches - high risk when the tension is high.

Jimnik
07-26-2008, 02:11 AM
I would love it if Muzza took the title now. This would almost make up for what has otherwise been a trully muggish tournament.

Britain has waited so long for a player like this.

Clydey
07-26-2008, 02:13 AM
to be fair, this is not completely true. 30 something... though Andy caused most of them. Djokovic even managed to serve into stands.

It was Nole's forehand more than anything. In the first set he was hitting a few big errors. I don't know if it was the wind, but he mis-hit a few. He actually mis-hit the shot that got him the first break in the second set. He played better towards the end, but got edgy in the TB. Seemed to run out of ideas in the TB for whatever reason and hit a couple of dodgy dropshots.

MIMIC
07-26-2008, 02:13 AM
I was actually impressed with Murray. I don't know why the forum hates him so much. I'm a Djokovic fan but he was pretty impressive (even though Djokovic sprayed errors all over the court)

fast_clay
07-26-2008, 02:14 AM
Barry Cowan - Murray will not win unless he serves 60% or more good serves.

Murray managed 41% today.

My little toenail is a bigger tennis expert than Cowan.



heh heh heh :lol:

What is this Cowan...?







Novak.... got Smokedyabitch...

savesthedizzle
07-26-2008, 02:14 AM
Congrats to the Murray fans that was a 100% deserved victory :yeah: Andy played more aggressively from the start and probably would have even beat Novak even if Novak wasn't playing like shit :lol:

Novak looks jaded, and that combined with an on-Murray was not a good combo :lol:

Anyway, best of luck to Murray in the SF! :rocker: He's due to have a good tournament :)

MaryX
07-26-2008, 02:14 AM
Fantastic played by Murray :yeah: nothing more, he's got his revange :)

danton
07-26-2008, 02:15 AM
I won money - I put £5 on Murray to win at 6. £23.75 to be precise at minus my original £5 and fees. Why do they take your original deposit out of your winnings :-(

Lurker011
07-26-2008, 02:15 AM
great job by murray,his defense completly frustrated the djoke. i think he has a great chance to take the title,especially if gasquet roasts the pig. and if he doesnt,murray can beat nadal on these hardcourts!

adee-gee
07-26-2008, 02:15 AM
I'm not being pessimistic, just realistic.

It doesn't matter to you because you actually prefer Nadull to win, but I doubt Murray non-Nadull fans think like you.
I want Murray to win if they play, as I did at Wimbledon.

I just don't get your thinking - so if he loses 6-3 6-4 to Nadal, this victory becomes pointless and meaningless? Nadal is a better player than Murray, it would hardly be a shock if he lost to him.

leng jai
07-26-2008, 02:16 AM
Aloimeh: "Fakervic is one of the top 3 volleyers on tour"

tennisfan444
07-26-2008, 02:17 AM
saw most of it and murray played like I've never seen him before. Poor dj, will he recover to win again or will this and the safin loss destroy him?

Merton
07-26-2008, 02:17 AM
Rrainer: Djokovic is a player with no weaknesses.

Damn
07-26-2008, 02:17 AM
Oh my...

I tought this kid was the GOAT, the real #1, the utter favorite on HC, resuming: Djokovic > God where and when he wants according to this forums. But then we have this Murray playing really consistent during the whole 2 sets and the poor Djoker doesn't know what to do.

I imagine that the Djokotards are already in their beloved hole, they only appear when things go favorably.

Well done Andy :yeah:

Vida
07-26-2008, 02:18 AM
It was Nole's forehand more than anything. In the first set he was hitting a few big errors. I don't know if it was the wind, but he mis-hit a few. He actually mis-hit the shot that got him the first break in the second set. He played better towards the end, but got edgy in the TB. Seemed to run out of ideas in the TB for whatever reason and hit a couple of dodgy dropshots.

He sensed pressure from Andy and he didn't catch any momentum whatsoever. All the chances he had were more or less forced out, and short of breath. It was fairly obvious who will win as soon as second set started.

Nole has some serious thinking to do. He couldv play better though it doesnt mean he wouldv won.

freeandlonely
07-26-2008, 02:18 AM
Now time for another to reverse the 0-4 H-H.
Let's go.

rofe
07-26-2008, 02:18 AM
Well done Murray. :yeah: Solid off the ground and still too defensive but that helped him against an error prone Djokovic today. He has pretty much cleared the path for a Nadal win at this TMS.

prima donna
07-26-2008, 02:18 AM
Solid.

lalit
07-26-2008, 02:20 AM
what a joke match from fakervic
those drop shots :lol:

fast_clay
07-26-2008, 02:20 AM
I was actually impressed with Murray. I don't know why the forum hates him so much. I'm a Djokovic fan but he was pretty impressive (even though Djokovic sprayed errors all over the court)

I dont hate Murray... Murray is going to change the sport and be the new face of Tennis Cambodia...

KAARRNNN MUZ GET IN THERE YOU BIG F***N GUTS-ACHE!!!!!

I would love it if Muzza took the title now. This would almost make up for what has otherwise been a trully muggish tournament.

Britain has waited so long for a player like this.


muggish...

yep... its been an absolute Mug-a-Thon...

and thats a level above Mug-o-Rama...

selyoink
07-26-2008, 02:20 AM
Best I've ever seen Murray hit his forehand.

Shocking display from Djokovic.

Good to see all of Nadal's challengers laying down for him in this tournament. All that's left is for Gasquet and Murray to bow down to him.

Sunset of Age
07-26-2008, 02:20 AM
:D Karin, I'm happy to see you've acknowledged that Federer isn't a top player ;) :p

:ras: :ras: :ras:

:lol: - I am happy for you as well, Adam. :angel:

pricdews
07-26-2008, 02:21 AM
Good win by Murray. His recent bulking up and composure have surprised me. He'll be a factor for some time.

Djokovic's forehand was pretty bad today way too often. His inconsistent volleying was not suprising. He'll have to figure out how to deal with the pressure of being a favorite (with Federer slipping and Nadal not yet - if ever - dominate on hard courts).

The thread titles around here are a bit ridiculous. Since when is winning by 1 break in the first and then a tiebreak in the second "destroying" anything. The total points were probably fairly close?

rocketassist
07-26-2008, 02:22 AM
The Serb wasn't that bad as people are making out- he wasn't at his super best, but he wasn't allowed to play that well by Muzza's attacking play and defence when he needed it.

Pheobo
07-26-2008, 02:22 AM
Murray played some excellent defense, but man, those drop shots from Djokovic :o I hope he gives Nadal fight tomorrow.

bad gambler
07-26-2008, 02:22 AM
Some atrocious shot selection from Djokovic highlighted by those ill advised drop shots

Congrats to Muzza though

raven gypsy
07-26-2008, 02:23 AM
:worship:

Muzza
exceptional and impressive performance. Some of his gets were just :eek:

Djokovic spoke earlier about feeling the pressure now that he's a favorite to win most of his matches. This is the first time he's feeling it -- the need to defend points.
Matches are different from this side of the net.

Corey Feldman
07-26-2008, 02:23 AM
I was actually impressed with Murray. I don't know why the forum hates him so much. I'm a Djokovic fan but he was pretty impressive (even though Djokovic sprayed errors all over the court)Well its just the better and more naturally talented tennis player won .. and 1st of many more to come ;)

tennizen
07-26-2008, 02:24 AM
I am so pleased. I never never expected this. Finally a victory that I am proud of. If he beats Gasquet on the way to the title that will be great:D

fast_clay
07-26-2008, 02:24 AM
what a joke match from fakervic
those drop shots :lol:

'... the green jacket's yours Happy... faker's gonna choke...'


it appeared he'd realised murray had too much game for him...

super unsure of himself...

:silly:

brain melt x 10

:cuckoo:

Corey Feldman
07-26-2008, 02:25 AM
muggish...

yep... its been an absolute Mug-a-Thon...

and thats a level above Mug-o-Rama...Is Djokovic the new Sloban Zimonvimonbimonvi ........ - that Yugolsav who reached the Semis at Wimbledon in the 80's ?

scoobs
07-26-2008, 02:25 AM
Right. First thought.

YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!! :)


After that, we have.

Djokovic:

First serve % was 61 but it felt lower somehow - he seemed like he wasn't serving that well. Certainly Murray was reading it and returning it far better than in the past.

Forehand was pretty atrocious, especially in the first set.

I felt when he did have chances, he did less with them than he has done in the past - he did get some short balls, he did get a lot of second serves to look at, but he made less of them than I expected and that's a big surprise.

The dropshots at the end, pure desperation. When I saw them I finally relaxed and believed it was nearly over - he started trying for outcomes rather than playing the process.

Andy.

First serve % is 41. TERRIBLE.
Somehow it didn't matter - his second serve was well varied and he mixed up pace, position and spin with it fairly well to keep Novak off balance. Even so, he is lucky to get away with straight setting the world #3 with 41% first serves.

Mental attitude out there - absolutely exemplary - just a brilliant match in terms of his mental approach.

Groundstroke game - mostly superb. He was hitting a lot of shots deeper than he sometimes does, he played more aggressively as a general tactic than he often does - sometimes he pays lip service to the concept but then retreats into counterpunching. Today he did realise that he would need to keep good length and hit with purpose, and he largely did. He did play some points where he gave Novak openings to exploit, which Novak largely failed to capitalise on. Murray's movement was superb and hung in successfully on a number of points that looked to go against him. Forehand in attack and defence was the most effective I have seen it.

I would give Andy an A- for that performance - mark him down for the woeful first serve % but give him credit for not allowing that to be the decisive stat.

Novak I would rate around a C in terms of how well he can play. Some of it undoubtedly was Murray preventing him from seizing the match by the scruff of the neck, but no doubt some of it was just him not producing what he is capable of.


A big win for Andy - he said in post-match interview he'd watched a lot of Novak's matches lately, studied his game and had a much better read on it now. That showed today and good on him for doing that.

Really happy for that performance :)

~*BGT*~
07-26-2008, 02:25 AM
Well its just the better and more naturally talented tennis player won .. and 1st of many more to come ;)

Mikey, can you believe that I was pulling really hard for Murray and was happy he won? ;) :p

Tutu
07-26-2008, 02:26 AM
And people had the cheek to call Gilles a pusher. :tape:

Novak played a horrible match.. Murray played a few good points.. Thats about it, he just got the ball back.

The British commentators are just unbearable.

dejosav
07-26-2008, 02:26 AM
To you maybe, but to Murray fans it means a lot whatever happens tomorrow.

And Murray himself - "mentally it's the best victory of my career".
He said that? That's great for him, hopefully he'll finally prove he can win big title. Not much chance though if it's Nadal in SF but who knows... Anyway, i never understood why he often play so defensively especially against Djokovic, not that he was very offensive tonight but still better than usually. Good win Andy, and don't be satisfied with just SF, give your best tomorrow.

luie
07-26-2008, 02:26 AM
Federer should feel a little bit better now, knowing his supposedly BIGGEST foes for the HC season is also out.(AROD,DJOKER) but could murray be a MAJOR factor murray vs nadal should tell us more. NOVAK seemed a bit shaken & vunerable in that match.HE!HE!

pricdews
07-26-2008, 02:26 AM
Well its just the better and more naturally talented tennis player won .. and 1st of many more to come ;)

The better player tonight won, but the better player overall is still IMO Djokovic. Maybe Murray is more talented but that'll have to be proven over time. We'll see and it should be fun :)

zethand
07-26-2008, 02:26 AM
Why I am so happy??? I am happy Im so happy, la, la, la, la.

pricdews
07-26-2008, 02:27 AM
Federer should feel a little bit better now, knowing his supposedly BIGGEST foes for the HC season is also out.(AROD,DJOKER) but could murray be a MAJOR factor murray vs nadal should tell us more. NOVAK seemed a bit shaken & vunerable in that match.HE!HE!

I doubt he feels any better about Djokovic getting more rest before Cincy and the Olympics.

adee-gee
07-26-2008, 02:27 AM
Aloimeh: "Fakervic is one of the top 3 volleyers on tour"
:spit: did you make that up? Surely s/he didn't say that :o

Djokovic's volleys are never great, but tonight they were exceptionally bad. I'm surprised more players don't try the old Tim Henman tactic and bring him in.

NinaNina19
07-26-2008, 02:28 AM
Andy :hearts: :woohoo: :bounce: .

BalkanBoy
07-26-2008, 02:28 AM
Well deserved victory.

rocketassist
07-26-2008, 02:29 AM
And people had the cheek to call Gilles a pusher. :tape:

Novak played a horrible match.. Murray played a few good points.. Thats about it, he just got the ball back.

The British commentators are just unbearable.

Better than any WTA shit! :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby:

raven gypsy
07-26-2008, 02:31 AM
I am so pleased. I never never expected this. Finally a victory that I am proud of. If he beats Gasquet on the way to the title that will be great:D

:ras:

Talk like this got you banned from vb. :devil:
I'm reporting this post to Linda, the rafa forum mod! :p

Clydey
07-26-2008, 02:31 AM
And people had the cheek to call Gilles a pusher. :tape:

Novak played a horrible match.. Murray played a few good points.. Thats about it, he just got the ball back.

The British commentators are just unbearable.

He just pushed the ball back? He really didn't. He was far more aggressive today, which he needs to maintain. Surely he can see the difference aggression makes.

Voo de Mar
07-26-2008, 02:32 AM
Ok, Djokovic fucked up two dropshots in the tie-break, but IMO it was a consequence of his breathing problems. I noticed that a guy from his box showed him to take a challenge, I suppose it was a suggestion to equal breath. The intensivity of play was high, many rallies were very fast and Djokovic didn't endure the tempo of play. Murray was prepared physically better to this match.

luie
07-26-2008, 02:32 AM
Right. First thought.

YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!! :)


After that, we have.

Djokovic:

First serve % was 61 but it felt lower somehow - he seemed like he wasn't serving that well. Certainly Murray was reading it and returning it far better than in the past.

Forehand was pretty atrocious, especially in the first set.

I felt when he did have chances, he did less with them than he has done in the past - he did get some short balls, he did get a lot of second serves to look at, but he made less of them than I expected and that's a big surprise.

The dropshots at the end, pure desperation. When I saw them I finally relaxed and believed it was nearly over - he started trying for outcomes rather than playing the process.

Andy.

First serve % is 41. TERRIBLE.
Somehow it didn't matter - his second serve was well varied and he mixed up pace, position and spin with it fairly well to keep Novak off balance. Even so, he is lucky to get away with straight setting the world #3 with 41% first serves.

Mental attitude out there - absolutely exemplary - just a brilliant match in terms of his mental approach.

Groundstroke game - mostly superb. He was hitting a lot of shots deeper than he sometimes does, he played more aggressively as a general tactic than he often does - sometimes he pays lip service to the concept but then retreats into counterpunching. Today he did realise that he would need to keep good length and hit with purpose, and he largely did. He did play some points where he gave Novak openings to exploit, which Novak largely failed to capitalise on. Murray's movement was superb and hung in successfully on a number of points that looked to go against him. Forehand in attack and defence was the most effective I have seen it.

I would give Andy an A- for that performance - mark him down for the woeful first serve % but give him credit for not allowing that to be the decisive stat.

Novak I would rate around a C in terms of how well he can play. Some of it undoubtedly was Murray preventing him from seizing the match by the scruff of the neck, but no doubt some of it was just him not producing what he is capable of.


A big win for Andy - he said in post-match interview he'd watched a lot of Novak's matches lately, studied his game and had a much better read on it now. That showed today and good on him for doing that.

Really happy for that performance :)
Lets see what novak is made -off he runs his mouth on fed but with him being a favorite & players studing his constant play strenghts & weakness. HE IS UNDER PRESSURE.:worship::worship::worship::worship:

adee-gee
07-26-2008, 02:32 AM
He said that? That's great for him, hopefully he'll finally prove he can win big title. Not much chance though if it's Nadal in SF but who knows... Anyway, i never understood why he often play so defensively especially against Djokovic, not that he was very offensive tonight but still better than usually. Good win Andy, and don't be satisfied with just SF, give your best tomorrow.
Yeah he said it in his interview for British tv straight after the match. I agree with him, he stayed very calm even when he missed chances for the double break, and when he got broken back. I was very impressed.

To be fair, Djokovic isn't a great match-up for him, he's better than Murray in most areas. It needed a day like today where Djokovic was below his best and Murray was playing well for this result to happen. Hopefully he can kick on now, no doubt he still has a long way to go to catch Djokovic.

luie
07-26-2008, 02:34 AM
I doubt he feels any better about Djokovic getting more rest before Cincy and the Olympics.
Irrelevant A NOVAK LOSS IS always welcomed.

star
07-26-2008, 02:34 AM
He just pushed the ball back? He really didn't. He was far more aggressive today, which he needs to maintain. Surely he can see the difference aggression makes.

:lol: :lol:

I just finished watching the match, and I thought: That should put to end the MTF idea that Murray is just a pusher. But I see I underestimated MTF once again. :lol:

Anyway, tough loss for Djokovic. Hopefully he took some lessons away from it. Murray is tough to play. I'd hate to be across the net to him. Such a negative force field around that guy. He's a good player though.

Corey Feldman
07-26-2008, 02:38 AM
And people had the cheek to call Gilles a pusher. :tape:

Novak played a horrible match.. Murray played a few good points.. Thats about it, he just got the ball back.

The British commentators are just unbearable.The Boiled Egg ??

me probably thinks so

scoobs
07-26-2008, 02:38 AM
:lol: :lol:

I just finished watching the match, and I thought: That should put to end the MTF idea that Murray is just a pusher. But I see I underestimated MTF once again. :lol:

Anyway, tough loss for Djokovic. Hopefully he took some lessons away from it. Murray is tough to play. I'd hate to be across the net to him. Such a negative force field around that guy. He's a good player though.
Well I think it's fair to remember that counterpunching is Andy's more natural style of play, although I think he is less "pusher" than Simon perhaps.

Today he knew that's not enough to he adjusted his game to the situation but by default he will still like his opponent to come at him and so people will say with some justification that this match is the exception.

Corey Feldman
07-26-2008, 02:39 AM
Mikey, can you believe that I was pulling really hard for Murray and was happy he won? ;) :pWhat was your motive? :p

~*BGT*~
07-26-2008, 02:40 AM
What was your motive? :p

Revenge. :devil: Although, that may not happen as of right now. :o

shotgun
07-26-2008, 02:42 AM
Nadal says thank you.

GlennMirnyi
07-26-2008, 02:42 AM
I want Murray to win if they play, as I did at Wimbledon.

I just don't get your thinking - so if he loses 6-3 6-4 to Nadal, this victory becomes pointless and meaningless? Nadal is a better player than Murray, it would hardly be a shock if he lost to him.

Yeah, it means nothing, because then what's the deal. At this point even Wawrinka made a deeper run on a TMS than Murray. Also losing to a moonballer in any surface not called clay is pathetic for sure for a top 10 not called Boredo.

fast_clay
07-26-2008, 02:44 AM
:lol: :lol:

I just finished watching the match, and I thought: That should put to end the MTF idea that Murray is just a pusher. But I see I underestimated MTF once again. :lol:

Anyway, tough loss for Djokovic. Hopefully he took some lessons away from it. Murray is tough to play. I'd hate to be across the net to him. Such a negative force field around that guy. He's a good player though.

murray can be anything... he can push an entire match... in a year or two he'll be able to smack some around the court too...! murray is the enigma...

The Boiled Egg ??

me probably thinks so

Is Murray the ***NEW AND IMPROVED*** Andy Murray...?

Well I think it's fair to remember that counterpunching is Andy's more natural style of play, although I think he is less "pusher" than Simon perhaps.

Today he knew that's not enough to he adjusted his game to the situation but by default he will still like his opponent to come at him and so people will say with some justification that this match is the exception.

far less a pusher...

but he did hang around glasgow for a time... so... he may be hiding a drug dependancy... his mood swings would suggest so also... pot most likely...

Rumour
07-26-2008, 02:48 AM
Since I was doing more exciting and glamourous activities like putting groceries away, cleaning the oven and preparing a light supper, I happened to miss the first set... Was quite surprised but not totally shocked to find Djokovic down already and, while he apparently upped his level around the time I started watching, it was obviously still not enough.

Absence sometimes does make the heart fonder and, since his early Wimbledon exit quietened the hype somewhat, I've found myself warming up again to the Serb so I was a little sorry to see him lose. Murray isn't a particular favourite of mine but these last couple of months I've gotten a better idea of what his fans see in him, especially since he seems to have cut down on the angry and mopey on-court antics.

fast_clay
07-26-2008, 02:50 AM
Gotsmokedyabitch didnt play as bad as everyone is making out... and f***... murray was running 2nd serve...

murray was just picking novaks serve... all f*****g night... just looked the business every return game for me... made novak go for extra...

the only poor shot selection novak made was the dropshots when you could see the game was up...

i'm not buying this 'didnt play well' bs tonight cos Joke Features got worked over...

finishingmove
07-26-2008, 03:00 AM
murray was quite solid in all departments , good at reading novak's serve and anticipating shots well.

the only thing djokovic was bad at are the volleys which were atrocious , and he could've been more aggressive generally (aproach shots were kind of below his standards)

this way he got outplayed

fast_clay
07-26-2008, 03:03 AM
murray was quite solid in all departments , good at reading novak's serve and anticipating shots well.

the only thing djokovic was bad at are the volleys which were atrocious , and he could've been more aggressive generally (aproach shots were kind of below his standards)

this way he got outplayed

yes... he is missing that red headed clown shoe Mark 'Ronny McDonny' Woodforde in his camp...

Andi-M
07-26-2008, 03:28 AM
I knew the way everyone was doubting him He'd pull through.

Match wasnt amazing Nole played quite badly but am soo impressed with the way Muzza kept himself together asnd played some really good points!!

I love you Muzza!!! He aint nobodys bitch!!

Warrior
07-26-2008, 03:35 AM
What a Djoke!

foolish pleasure
07-26-2008, 03:55 AM
Another upset of this tournament. Wow. Murray's juiced up first and second serves, along with multiple UE of djoko's FH put murray in a more advantageous position throughout the match. One time he hit a 181 kph second serve to djoko's FH. Pretty impressive guts. Murray looked good all throughout the match. Stood inside the baseline and keeping pressure on Djoko. Djoko on the otherhand looked vulnerable. Very good job Murray and congrats on reaching the SF. :)
b-b-but i thought djokovic was supposed to be the unbeatable twin god brother of nadal the magnificent now that feds is dead :confused:

Tim Henman
07-26-2008, 03:58 AM
well done andy, now keep it up!

littleash
07-26-2008, 04:11 AM
horseface :D

10nisfan
07-26-2008, 04:16 AM
I want to post this in the Poll Thread, but it's closed...

Anyway, I guess ONLY those 31 People that voted for Murray are Right compared to those 99 People that voted for Djoker!... :haha:

scoobs
07-26-2008, 04:18 AM
I want to post this in the Poll Thread, but it's closed...

Anyway, I guess ONLY those 31 People that voted for Murray are Right compared to those 99 People that voted for Djoker!... :haha:
Yes.

But I can understand why - I was one of them. I wanted this result but past evidence was not on his side.

10nisfan
07-26-2008, 04:28 AM
Yes.

But I can understand why - I was one of them. I wanted this result but past evidence was not on his side.

Sorry Scoobs :hug:

scoobs
07-26-2008, 04:29 AM
Sorry Scoobs :hug:
Ah. I LOVE being proved wrong in a good cause :yeah:

Corey Feldman
07-26-2008, 04:30 AM
I want to post this in the Poll Thread, but it's closed...

Anyway, I guess ONLY those 31 People that voted for Murray are Right compared to those 99 People that voted for Djoker!... :haha:The MTF poll curse is well known by now :worship:

i partly blame it for Federer's season - and you can put that in the Fedtard excuse thread.

MacTheKnife
07-26-2008, 04:33 AM
Murrray played a great match and Djok was pretty much shell shocked the entire match. Obviously he had never seen Murray that aggressive. Should be a very interesting semi, can't wait..

Congrats to him, well played.

Mashachosen1
07-26-2008, 04:58 AM
I haven't seen the match but I'm so happy I won the bet. :lol:

vincayou
07-26-2008, 05:35 AM
Well done Murray. Unexpected but good result. Stopping the Nadal train will be hard but there is hope.

Naranoc
07-26-2008, 05:45 AM
Becoming absolutely nightmarish to trying predicting any matches at this time. Congrats to Andy for the win :yeah:. Fell asleep midway through the second set hoping that he wouldn't lose it in three.

Sunset of Age
07-26-2008, 05:47 AM
The MTF poll curse is well known by now :worship:

i partly blame it for Federer's season - and you can put that in the Fedtard excuse thread.

Don't EVER believe MTF polls... :haha:

Counting my cash again. Ping, ping, ping, $$$, $$$, $$$, etc... :p

10nisfan
07-26-2008, 05:58 AM
The MTF poll curse is well known by now :worship:

...that's why I rarely vote on Polls and I don't vote on Polls that involves Rafa, don't want to jinx him... :)

ChinoRios4Ever
07-26-2008, 06:12 AM
finally Muzza showing your potential, keep it up :woohoo:

dylan24
07-26-2008, 06:40 AM
enjoy your one slam you loser.
you'll never win another one

TMJordan
07-26-2008, 06:46 AM
Damn Novak, how can you lose to Murray? :(

Sebby
07-26-2008, 06:46 AM
Nice revenge after four losses and three trashings in a row.

Congrats.

Nadal_Fanatic
07-26-2008, 06:50 AM
enjoy your one slam you loser.
you'll never win another one
Trust me. He'll win many more slams on hardcourt. I still consider him the favorite at the US Open. Lighter balls favor his game.

zaboomafoo
07-26-2008, 06:52 AM
Mmmmh when djoker congratulated murray at the end of the match....you could almost see FAKE FAKE written all over his face...so typical

Sebby
07-26-2008, 06:55 AM
Oh I forgot. Let's give the title to Nadal.

Sheepy
07-26-2008, 08:37 AM
:banana::aparty::woohoo: Congrats Andy! Good luck against Rafa.

A_Skywalker
07-26-2008, 08:41 AM
Murray is Nadal fan, Adee-gee told him to lose to Rafa so he can reach N1 faster ;)

Allez
07-26-2008, 08:47 AM
And so Nadal wins yet another Masters tournament. Well done Murray :bounce:

Blue Heart24
07-26-2008, 09:43 AM
Finally Andy! :yeah: :rocker2:

Faker :bigwave:

Rafalover15
07-26-2008, 09:49 AM
Andy :)

I wanted a three setter but this will do :p

:rocker:

MrChopin
07-26-2008, 09:52 AM
Murray was returning really well and Djoke had trouble picking up easy points. Murray moved Nole in and out of the court nicely and really dictated play (Djokovic was forced to play a lot of angles).

One thing about Djoke recently is the lack of a lower gear. Fed in MC, Rafa in Hamburg, Rafa at RG, Safin at Wimbledon, Murray at Toronto: Djokovic has been trying to play ultra-aggressive in these matches, and when someone can hang with him and keep it deep, Djokovic makes the error. He had a number of ridiculous shanks (two in one game, for winners no less) and wild FH misses from the back of the court while swinging for the fence. In these matches (and in the past), he also seems to be at a loss. The match against Fed in MC and Rafa in Hamburg are the two best examples, but the tiebreak here was another. He starts spraying while trying to hit winners stretched on the run or off of first serve serves, or he resorts to those drop shots.

Nole's consistency is a problem when under pressure from players like this, and I think it stems from mediocre tactics.

bokehlicious
07-26-2008, 10:33 AM
Better luck next time Nole :awww:, no shame in reaching the quarters :hug: :hug: you're still the GOAT :yeah:

Herdwick
07-26-2008, 10:36 AM
Truly delighted for Andy - this was pretty much a no-lose match for me - and am very happy for him that he's finally managed a win over Nole. But the question marks are flashing over Nole. That was a very poor showing; serve unreliable, forehand away with the fairies, crap shot selection at crucial points and mentally out-toughed by Murray.

I can't blame the hideous shorts for everything although I cannot believe anyone wearing such a ghastly garment can achieve true mental peace.

I expect better from him in Cincy; he has a softish draw, points to gain and one hell of a lot to prove.

richie21
07-26-2008, 10:39 AM
Murray was returning really well and Djoke had trouble picking up easy points. Murray moved Nole in and out of the court nicely and really dictated play (Djokovic was forced to play a lot of angles).

Hum not sure we saw the same match.
Actually it was Djokovic who was dictating the play in most of the rallies.

architennis
07-26-2008, 10:41 AM
Truly delighted for Djokovic - this was pretty much a no-lose match for me - and am very happy for him that he's finally managed a loss over Andy. But the question marks are flashing over Andy. That was a fantastic showing; reliable serve, forehand powered by fairies, beautiful shot selection at crucial points and mentally out-toughed Djokovic.

:)

jcempire
07-26-2008, 10:43 AM
Finally, Murray put a win on djok

Tutu
07-26-2008, 10:46 AM
This victory won't mean anything if he's punched 2 and 2 tomorrow.
For once I agree with you... ;)

Better than any WTA shit! :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby:
I wouldn't be so sure of that. At least the WTA won't be putting anyone to sleep anytime soon. ;)

He just pushed the ball back? He really didn't. He was far more aggressive today, which he needs to maintain. Surely he can see the difference aggression makes.
He was aggresive a times but come on, Djokovic was dictating every rally and would come up with a pathetic unforced error. He can't even volley. Even if Murray played well, the fact that Djokovic played a terrible match contributed much more to his loss than "aggresive play" by Murray. How many times did you see Djokovic running from side to side the way Murray was? :wavey:

Tutu
07-26-2008, 10:47 AM
Hum not sure we saw the same match.
Actually it was Djokovic who was dictating the play in most of the rallies.

Exactly. Some people need a reality check, seriously.

Karolina_Sprem
07-26-2008, 10:53 AM
IMO Djokovic is out of form...

AndyUK
07-26-2008, 10:56 AM
Great win for Murray, happy for him. Djokovic hardly hit any winners and even though Djokovic did control the rallies, Murray kept with him and he ended up making errors. Really surprised though, this tournament has opened up now.

Matt01
07-26-2008, 11:05 AM
enjoy your one slam you loser.
you'll never win another one


But you think the mug in your avatar will? :lol:

:wavey:

KitinovRules
07-26-2008, 11:26 AM
It is always nice to see when Faker loses .
Even to a overrated mug like Murray.

nisha
07-26-2008, 11:32 AM
wow
i was sure Novak would win it after the wimbledone embarassment
Nice win for Murray, shame hes facing Nadal, no chance

cocrcici
07-26-2008, 11:58 AM
IMO Djokovic is out of form...

:worship:

nole serve was bad...

Il Primo Uomo
07-26-2008, 12:20 PM
Nole can't handle pressure when it's time to defend his big titles.

Sebby
07-26-2008, 12:30 PM
Nole can't handle pressure when it's time to defend his big titles.

The real test will be the next AO.

rocketassist
07-26-2008, 12:36 PM
I wouldn't be so sure of that. At least the WTA won't be putting anyone to sleep anytime soon. ;)

:confused: Every match on that joke tour is sleep-inducing :haha:

Murray dominated a lot of the first set rallies, so get off the drugs- Faker dominated the second set rallies and still lost. :baby:

stebs
07-26-2008, 12:42 PM
Djokovic wasn't terrible but he was below par and Murray is a top player. If you play below par against a top player you should get beaten and so Djokovic did. I think this means far more for the Scot than for the Serb. For Djokovic it was a bad day at the office but he can still gain points over the Summer AMS HC's with a win in Cincy and will almost defend them with a final. For Murray it was a much needed halt to a series of bad losses vs Djokovic that had started to become a serious issue.

Tutu
07-26-2008, 01:15 PM
:confused: Every match on that joke tour is sleep-inducing :haha:

Murray dominated a lot of the first set rallies, so get off the drugs- Faker dominated the second set rallies and still lost. :baby:

I think you need to take your meds. Even if you don't like the tour, you won't be going to sleep when this is happening. :lol:
4Gs6WTJExYg :drool:

But seriously, maybe you were watching a different match to me because Djokovic was definatly dominating. Murray did great to get so many balls back and force Djokovic to play another shot but it was definatly Djokovic who was making the first strike rather than Murray. I mean I have no problem with this play but if people over here are calling Gilles a pusher, then im sorry but so is Murray.

Wow, am I the only Brit in here who doesn't like Murray? :help:

Sean.
07-26-2008, 01:20 PM
Andy :yeah:

Hope it gives him a massive confidence boost!

chocc0
07-26-2008, 01:25 PM
Yay Andy!
bahahahahahaha Novak :lol:

Clydey
07-26-2008, 01:28 PM
Hum not sure we saw the same match.
Actually it was Djokovic who was dictating the play in most of the rallies.

Half the people saw one match and half the people saw another. From what I saw, Murray was in control for the vast majority of those rallies and even when defending he was hitting deeper than Nole, which allowed him to take control.

Duncan
07-26-2008, 01:46 PM
Wow, am I the only Brit in here who doesn't like Murray? :help:


No.

Alot of english people don't like him

Tutu
07-26-2008, 01:51 PM
No.

Alot of english people don't like him

And rightly so. :)

Duncan
07-26-2008, 01:52 PM
And rightly so. :)


Why?

Because he's scottish?

Turquoise
07-26-2008, 02:12 PM
Congrats Murray! :yeah: Finally, his first and well-deserved win against Djokovic. Those dropshots should be banished from his repertoire :lol: but I'll humour him as long as he compensates with his impressive retrieving skills and shotmaking abilities. Nice run in this tournament irrespective of his next result against Nadal.

Clydey
07-26-2008, 02:14 PM
Why?

Because he's scottish?

Because he/she bought the media's anti-English nonsense. That's the sign of a true mug. They buy everything printed by the media. The Sun calls Murray anti-English and they buy it. It's sad.

Smash.
07-26-2008, 02:22 PM
I hate them both, but congrats Andy.

Duncan
07-26-2008, 02:22 PM
Because he/she bought the media's anti-English nonsense. That's the sign of a true mug. They buy everything printed by the media. The Sun calls Murray anti-English and they buy it. It's sad.


I know.

I was just testing to see what this person's reason was. It's sad that English still hold this against him considering he trains there, his gf is english and part of his family are english.

Only the english wouldn't see that as a joke.

gebl
07-26-2008, 03:01 PM
Murray'll be playing Gasquet :cool:

Nice to see Elessar being as deluded as usual

~Maya~
07-26-2008, 03:24 PM
Murray played well and congrats to him.
Bad performance by Djokovic, not even close to his AO performance. I had a bad feeling about his game from the beginning of this tournament, but I never expected him to lose before semifinals.

JustJames
07-26-2008, 03:26 PM
I know.

I was just testing to see what this person's reason was. It's sad that English still hold this against him considering he trains there, his gf is english and part of his family are english.

Only the english wouldn't see that as a joke.

Please don't lump us all in with the likes of the above poster or think that we all religiously believe the word of magazines such as The Sun, Daily Express and The D.Star! ;)

Oh, and a great win for Muzza... shows that the fragile bridge between him and Djok/Nadal is beginning to disintegrate.

Duncan
07-26-2008, 03:34 PM
Please don't lump us all in with the likes of the above poster or think that we all religiously believe the word of magazines such as The Sun, Daily Express and The D.Star! ;)

Oh, and a great win for Muzza... shows that the fragile bridge between him and Djok/Nadal is beginning to disintegrate.


Sorry, i didn't mean to say it in that way. I edited it a few times to make it seem less harsh.

A small minority of englishmen and women don't seem to understand that it was a joke

scoobs
07-26-2008, 03:35 PM
Sorry, i didn't mean to say it in that way. I edited it a few times to make it seem less harsh.

A small minority of englishmen and women don't seem to understand that it was a joke
And to be scrupulously fair, a small amount of Scottish people that I have come across, think that if he *didn't* mean it, then he bloody well should have done :)

Duncan
07-26-2008, 03:37 PM
And to be scrupulously fair, a small amount of Scottish people that I have come across, think that if he *didn't* mean it, then he bloody well should have done :)

I fully admit that some of us are arseholes.


:o


I fully support England in any sport they participate in and i am always blasted for it


*edit*

apart from Rugby :lol:

Tutu
07-26-2008, 03:58 PM
Why?

Because he's scottish?
I would still dislike him if he was Irish or Welsh or English.. I just don't like the way he acts on court, his game and, well to me anyway, it looks like he just has no personality at all and he just bores me...
Because he/she bought the media's anti-English nonsense. That's the sign of a true mug. They buy everything printed by the media. The Sun calls Murray anti-English and they buy it. It's sad.
Um, excuse me but he asked me the question and for you information I really couldn't care less about that bullshit. I know how much the sun lies and who cares even if he was being serious? He's scottish after all not English. :shrug:
Please don't lump us all in with the likes of the above poster or think that we all religiously believe the word of magazines such as The Sun, Daily Express and The D.Star! ;)

Oh, and a great win for Muzza... shows that the fragile bridge between him and Djok/Nadal is beginning to disintegrate.
:o

jonny84
07-26-2008, 04:01 PM
Really unexpected to be honest but :yeah: to Andy for coming through and beating Novak for the first time.

Clydey
07-26-2008, 04:11 PM
I would still dislike him if he was Irish or Welsh or English.. I just don't like the way he acts on court, his game and, well to me anyway, it looks like he just has no personality at all and he just bores me...

Um, excuse me but he asked me the question and for you information I really couldn't care less about that bullshit. I know how much the sun lies and who cares even if he was being serious? He's scottish after all not English. :shrug:

:o

You said that English people have good reason to not like Murray. That implies one thing and one thing only.

Tutu
07-26-2008, 04:22 PM
You said that English people have good reason to not like Murray. That implies one thing and one thing only.

Not necessarily.. In fact, I wasn't trying to imply anything. I didn't even think about the fact that he was referring to English people rather than British or even Scottish people.. When I think of English people I think of British and same with Scottish.. Probabaly because I haven't met many Scottish people and don't think of them any differently to English people. If he had said that instead my answer would be the same. He doesn't seem like a bad person, I just don't like him. :shrug:

Clydey
07-26-2008, 04:26 PM
Not necessarily.. In fact, I wasn't trying to imply anything. I didn't even think about the fact that her was referring to English people rather than British or even scottish.. If he had said that instead my answer would be the same. He doesn't seem like a bad person, I just don't like him. :shrug:


"Quote:
Originally Posted by Duncan View Post
No.

Alot of english people don't like him"

Tutu: "And rightly so. "

You can see why I thought what I did. Crossed wires, I suppose.

Corey Feldman
07-26-2008, 04:26 PM
Flaming moaning English gits about this 2006 World Cup thing

it wasnt Andy's fault they crashed and burned in penalty kicks at the exact moments Muzza was winning the first set tie break against Roddick at Wimb :p

oh the memories of that afternoon as a Scotsman :hearts::hearts:

scoobs
07-26-2008, 04:27 PM
I take comfort from the fact that however snippy it gets between English and Scottish, we're a long way from being in the mess Belgium is :)

Duncan
07-26-2008, 04:27 PM
"Quote:
Originally Posted by Duncan View Post
No.

Alot of english people don't like him"

Tutu: "And rightly so. "

You can see why I thought what I did. Crossed wires, I suppose.



Yeah that's the way i took it too

Corey Feldman
07-26-2008, 04:27 PM
You can see why I thought what I did. Crossed wires, I suppose.Dont worry son... he/she is just an English git .. lets wind them up even more

dylan24
07-26-2008, 04:30 PM
But you think the mug in your avatar will? :lol:

:wavey:

did i say he would?

Tutu
07-26-2008, 04:38 PM
"Quote:
Originally Posted by Duncan View Post
No.

Alot of english people don't like him"

Tutu: "And rightly so. "

You can see why I thought what I did. Crossed wires, I suppose.Yeah, yeah, I know. Just misunderstood eachother. :shrug:


Yeah that's the way i took it too
I didn't even realise the English still cared about this until I read on the Murraysworld website (I really don't know why I was on it.. In all seriousness I think im turning into a Murray fan but refuse to admit it :lol: :o :help:) and they were writing about it saying that his remarks had finally been cleard or something.. And this was just like a couple of weeks ago. Was it really that big of a deal (outside the tabloids)? :o

Dont worry son... he/she is just an English git .. lets wind them up even more
:o

Clydey
07-26-2008, 04:49 PM
Yeah, yeah, I know. Just misunderstood eachother. :shrug:



I didn't even realise the English still cared about this until I read on the Murraysworld website (I really don't know why I was on it.. In all seriousness I think im turning into a Murray fan but refuse to admit it :lol: :o :help:) and they were writing about it saying that his remarks had finally been cleard or something.. And this was just like a couple of weeks ago. Was it really that big of a deal (outside the tabloids)? :o


:o

Yeah, it was getting mentioned in half of the articles during Wimbledon.

zeleni
07-26-2008, 05:13 PM
Congrats to Andy... I am glad I didn't watch the match. Although I expected and hoped Nole to win this, I am not too sad. Andy, take the trophy now.

As for England vs Scotland... You both suck in both football and tennis.:p :lol:
We suck only in football.:lol:

Xenosys
07-26-2008, 06:34 PM
I sacrificed my diet of boozing, pubbing and socialising on a Friday night to stay and watch Murray hopefully come up with the goods required, and he didn't let us down.

Superb win, it'll be a really tough match against Nadal, but I think it'll undoubtedly be much closer than the thrashing at Wimbledon this year. It's best of 3 and on a hardcourt this time around, which suits Murray game. He overcame Djokovic with a FS percentage of around 40, which would indicate that either Djokovic just wasn't on his game or/and Murray was throwing in some top-notch second serves.

That'll need to improve, and I would like it if he adopted a consistent attacking game throughout, as that's the only way I can see him making a fight of it.

Gustavo Ovatsug
07-26-2008, 06:38 PM
i would not call it a destroy

second set was even until Novak played a terrible, thoughtless tiebreaker

decrepitude
07-26-2008, 07:31 PM
I know.

I was just testing to see what this person's reason was. It's sad that English still hold this against him considering he trains there, his gf is english and part of his family are english.

Only the english wouldn't see that as a joke.

I'm English. So are a lot of his supporters - don't generalise!

Edit - Oops, I jumped in to reply to this before I got to the end of the thread, I see others have said the same thing.

Matt01
07-26-2008, 08:02 PM
did i say he would?


No, but it was still a dumb (and insulting) post :)

BTW, why did RagingLamb edit my post? :bigcry: