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Toronto QF: G. Simon def. M. Cilic 3-6, 6-2, 6-3

federernadalfan
07-25-2008, 05:31 PM
Cilic played like a mug. It's a wonder he came to the QF. His first serve percentage was low, his second serve wasn't impressive esp concerning how tall he is, and he mostly pushed his groundstrokes and they landed short. It was a battle of the pushers, who can push better than the other. All in all congrats to Simon for making a good run this tourny and reaching the semis.

finishingmove
07-25-2008, 05:32 PM
simon is exceptional at what he does. cilic was butchered mentally

RagingLamb
07-25-2008, 05:33 PM
what a horrible match.

tennizen
07-25-2008, 05:33 PM
What a horrible horrible match this was. Cilic:( I have an unimaginable dislike for Gilles Simon for some reason:tape:

rocketassist
07-25-2008, 05:33 PM
Ugh. 'puke'.

Bad for tennis.

octatennis
07-25-2008, 05:34 PM
this is really bad... i am start to convince my self about the idea of the death tennis.

finishingmove
07-25-2008, 05:34 PM
cilic does have the shots , but simon made him forget anything he knew.

by the end he looked like he wouldnt be able to remember his name if someone asked him.

i was afraid this could happen but i was still hoping cilic could pull himself together...

kalisita
07-25-2008, 05:34 PM
Cilic let Simon hang around too long and payed for it. Cilic couldn't believe he was in a third set and played crap. Simon was he's usual steady set. Congrats on 1st Master Series SF Simon! :)

oranges
07-25-2008, 05:34 PM
Marin :sad: Got sucked into the Simon grind, waaay to many UEs and practically no first serve in the last.

Beforehand
07-25-2008, 05:35 PM
Gilles Simon is adorable, even if he ruined my week by defeating Roger.

Sunset of Age
07-25-2008, 05:35 PM
Very, very bad match - ridiculous no. of UEs (Cilic: 60! :eek:) and Cilic sort of self-destructed the way Fed did on Wednesday.

Still: congrats to Simon for making it to his first MS semi-final! :yeah: :hatoff:
(There's at least a bit of comfort in the fact that Fed apparently didn't lose to a total mug ;))

sdtoot
07-25-2008, 05:35 PM
That was one of the most boring mens matches that I have ever watched. Congrats to Simon, but all he had to do was keep the ball in play and wait for the Cilic error........shocker!!

Action Jackson
07-25-2008, 05:35 PM
Simple Simon used the simple methods and it worked to a tee.

No need to raise the game, just keep the ball in court and let the opponent self destruct. Cilic forget the net is what you are meant to hit over, not use it like a trawler.

Jaap
07-25-2008, 05:35 PM
Cilic is a manufactured, one dimensional clown.

fabolous
07-25-2008, 05:36 PM
simon winners/UE ratio was 15/40 and he made only 3/15 BPs. still won this match easily, that says it all.

anon57
07-25-2008, 05:36 PM
Cilic was horrible in the last two sets, Simon did well enough but it was not a good match, Cilic was playing too poorly for that. congrats to Simon for his first AMS semifinal.

rocketassist
07-25-2008, 05:36 PM
(There's at least a bit of comfort in the fact that Fed apparently didn't lose to a total mug ;))

He did.

Federer :retard: This clown in the SF, and Faker champion on Sunday, good job mr GOAT :rolleyes:

Tutu
07-25-2008, 05:36 PM
Oh stop your hating.. You could see how exhausted physically and mentally Gilles was in this match and was defintaly pushing here.. He wasn't doing it before but it's got to the stage where he has to conserve as much energy as possible so good on him. Hope he can have a bit of a rest because the scheduling has been pretty brutal on him seeing as he's been first match on the last two days and he had a night match the day before.

Allez Gilles. GL in the semis! You can do it! :woohoo:

rhinooooo
07-25-2008, 05:36 PM
Awful match.

qczi
07-25-2008, 05:37 PM
over 100 unforced errors :tape:

Jimnik
07-25-2008, 05:37 PM
This "tennis is dead" talk is starting to make sense to me.

Sunset of Age
07-25-2008, 05:39 PM
He did.

I can't see losing to a semifinalist as losing to a total mug... (even if I have to admit that that loss was more his own doing than to Gilles' 'brilliance' - which I think was the case today just as well as it was Wednesday) :shrug:

Federer :retard: This clown in the SF, and Faker champion on Sunday, good job mr GOAT :rolleyes:

Have to agree with you here, as painful as it is... hopefully Raf can at least try and prevent that second disaster you mentioned happening. ;)

Deivid23
07-25-2008, 05:39 PM
cilic does have the shots , but simon made him forget anything he knew.

by the end he looked like he wouldnt be able to remember his name if someone asked him.

i was afraid this could happen but i was still hoping cilic could pull himself together...


I was thinking sth like this, yup

Deivid23
07-25-2008, 05:39 PM
We will get him next time Marin, no worries

Mashachosen1
07-25-2008, 05:41 PM
Marin :sobbing: horrendous last set!

Anyway congrats Simon! :)

Tutu
07-25-2008, 05:41 PM
Simple Simon used the simple methods and it worked to a tee.

No need to raise the game, just keep the ball in court and let the opponent self destruct. Cilic forget the net is what you are meant to hit over, not use it like a trawler.

Well that is all he needed to do. :o Im sure he'll raise his game when he plays a better player because he definatly wasn't playing like this against Fed. But :banana: I just hope he has enough left in the tank. :)

And anyway, however much people want to call him a pusher, it's amazing how he can 1. Force the opponent to play to his pace and 2. Turn defence into attack so well and effeciently. Allez!

jonny84
07-25-2008, 05:42 PM
:sad: for Cilic. Thought he was winning and going to take it when he won the first set. :banghead:

HoistDaColors
07-25-2008, 05:42 PM
that was some uninspiring tennis. chila was okay in the first set and simon was making way too many UE for his style of play. and then the rest of the match...http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs24/f/2007/362/9/8/_shithappens__rvmp_by_bad_blood.gif

fast_clay
07-25-2008, 05:43 PM
Cilic is a manufactured, one dimensional clown.

this is true...

cilic is tipped as mascot for the class of '09 brainless mug era...

finishingmove
07-25-2008, 05:44 PM
simon's game is mind numbing for the opponent but somehow i like watching him :lol:

Venle
07-25-2008, 05:44 PM
Simon to the semis! :woohoo:

federernadalfan
07-25-2008, 05:46 PM
whoever wins the kiefer blake match, i hope that person will tear simon apart

Merton
07-25-2008, 05:47 PM
Too bad for Cilic, big missed opportunity here. Still, there is a lot to learn from this match and overall it was a good tournament for him. Now Simon has a chance to make the final.

finishingmove
07-25-2008, 05:48 PM
whoever wins the kiefer blake match, i hope that person will tear simon apart

good luck if blake wins :lol:

Action Jackson
07-25-2008, 05:48 PM
this is true...

cilic is tipped as mascot for the class of '09 brainless mug era...

By the fact that Cilic can volley means he has more dimensions that Söderling and the Toad has one dimension.

You didn't work in the Zimbabwe elections did you. :p

Guy Haines
07-25-2008, 05:48 PM
This was the first time for both of these two young players at this level, so of course they're going to play a nervous, messy match. Both are going to be in more Masters quarterfinals in the future, so get used to it.

Plus the first quarterfinal of the day on the men's or women's side is almost always an ho-hum blah affair.

That said, it does sound like a really ugly, really lousy match. But Simon does know how to pull through and win when the errors are flying. That's an ability a lot of other players wish they had.

betowiec
07-25-2008, 05:49 PM
never in doubt

C3PO
07-25-2008, 05:49 PM
All Simon's opponents got bored playing him and they lose. Anyway congrats Gilles for your first Semi-final in a MS! :)

Guy Haines
07-25-2008, 05:49 PM
Well that is all he needed to do. :o Im sure he'll raise his game when he plays a better player because he definatly wasn't playing like this against Fed. But :banana: I just hope he has enough left in the tank. :)

And anyway, however much people want to call him a pusher, it's amazing how he can 1. Force the opponent to play to his pace and 2. Turn defence into attack so well and effeciently. Allez!

You speak the truth. :yeah:

scoobs
07-25-2008, 05:54 PM
Neither exactly looked full of beans out there, did they, especially at the end. Cilic started like the energizer bunny near the end of his battery life...good and then it got slower...and slower...and sloooowwer...

Then Simon just about summoned up enough energy to keep the rallies going for 2 sets and take the match.

Quite soporific. Even Lahyani got in on the act, dropping out his words with weary contemplativeness... "Advoaantage.....Siiiimon....."

Occasionally some nice shots. Best I can say about it though is that it wasn't as bad as the Murray - Wawa encounter yesterday :o

Blake or Kiefer really should slap Simon in the semis - the poor guy looks exhausted and it should be a step too far.

selyoink
07-25-2008, 05:54 PM
Simon should make the final.

Mateya
07-25-2008, 05:58 PM
Gilles is unstopable :banana: :banana: The master of pushing.

I heard the match was quite boring, but I don't care as long as Gilles wins. :)

Too bad Chili doesn't play like this against PHM lately. He would be owned.

fast_clay
07-25-2008, 05:59 PM
simon's game is mind numbing for the opponent but somehow i like watching him :lol:

yeah... i think the game is pretty simple for simon... just get it back... no real damaging pace... its funny...

I Like Junkball.... yeaaahhhh... :rocker2:

finishingmove
07-25-2008, 06:01 PM
see the ball... hit the ball :haha:

i am genuinely amused

fast_clay
07-25-2008, 06:04 PM
By the fact that Cilic can volley means he has more dimensions that Söderling and the Toad has one dimension.

You didn't work in the Zimbabwe elections did you. :p

heh heh... :lol: ... i have dyslexia... so they let me check the votes... my first name is not Robert however...

the Toad got sick on his last adventure to the net... in 1998... mental scars... childhod sicknes thing... allergic...

Lurker011
07-25-2008, 06:05 PM
simon continues to push his way to wins,when are these other mugs gonna step up and play smart tennis.

Nathaliia
07-25-2008, 06:07 PM
he looked really unfresh in this match but pushed it through anyway :lol:

fast_clay
07-25-2008, 06:09 PM
when the going gets tough... the tough get pushing...

you cant push simon around...

Action Jackson
07-25-2008, 06:14 PM
Simon he's going to push the button and he performed better than the Israeli 2007 Eurovision entry with the same name.

Xenosys
07-25-2008, 06:17 PM
Good job Simon Giles. At least one of my predications have been correct tonight so far :)

zethand
07-25-2008, 06:23 PM
Super good... I bet on him when he was one break down in the first!

fast_clay
07-25-2008, 06:28 PM
Simon did more pushing in the last 3 and a half games than the local crack dealer down my street did in all of last week...

Dirty Bastard...!

Xenosys
07-25-2008, 06:31 PM
Simon did more pushing in the last 3 and a half games than the local crack dealer down my street did in all of last week...

Dirty Bastard...!

:lol:

I've never seen him live before. Does he just prod the ball back at his opponent and wait for the mistakes to come?

finishingmove
07-25-2008, 06:36 PM
simon does what has to be done

rocketassist
07-25-2008, 06:38 PM
This match was almost as tedious as a WTA match.

10nisfan
07-25-2008, 06:43 PM
I didn't see the match... BUT Most of You who saw it didn't have great reviews about it... so, what does it say about Fedex and Rodduck Losing to These Two Guys???... :tape:

richie21
07-25-2008, 07:05 PM
Horrible match :rolleyes:

As expected,i guess that we'll have to wait tonight to see some real tennis.

Caralimon
07-25-2008, 07:07 PM
Simon is really gaining popularity here, huh

Well done Gilles, good luck in the SF

AndyUK
07-25-2008, 07:10 PM
Poor match, but well done Simon. Cilic played well in the first set but most players can't keep up the power game like that for a whole match and he couldn't. Simon wasn't great either but got the job done.

Vida
07-25-2008, 07:15 PM
Sorry for Chill.

Simon ...

ChinoRios4Ever
07-25-2008, 07:21 PM
horrible match :tape:

Sunset of Age
07-25-2008, 07:22 PM
I didn't see the match... BUT Most of You who saw it didn't have great reviews about it... so, what does it say about Fedex and Rodduck Losing to These Two Guys???... :tape:

Pusher Era. :worship: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Warrior
07-25-2008, 07:39 PM
Simon has a good chance to make it to the finals. Who knew?

alfonsojose
07-25-2008, 07:43 PM
cilic does have the shots , but simon made him forget anything he knew.

by the end he looked like he wouldnt be able to remember his name if someone asked him.

i was afraid this could happen but i was still hoping cilic could pull himself together...

MMm .. maybe the backhand but the forehand is supicious. He does a really ugly twist with his wrist, and needs pace. Simon doesn't have that much and his shots fell short. Well played. Giles reminds me of Hingis. That second serve :lol: i'm a fan :D

Tutu
07-25-2008, 07:44 PM
This match was almost as tedious as a WTA match.

Oi! Don't diss the WTA! :o

Chloe le Bopper
07-25-2008, 07:48 PM
Horrible match :rolleyes:

As expected,i guess that we'll have to wait tonight to see some real tennis.

When will people realize that keeping the ball in play longer than the other guy is, in fact, playing "real" tennis, and not just the fun-pretend kind?

Seriously.

lalit
07-25-2008, 08:07 PM
what a pusher i saw him for the first time when he played gasquet at wimbledon
and he plays such ugly tennis

Truc
07-25-2008, 08:16 PM
The match against Gasquet was particularly ugly. When he plays poorly, it's not pretty to watch with his style of game. But if you saw him for the first time one month ago, it might be a bit short to really know his game. Don't judge him on matches like the Gasquet one only.

Blue Heart24
07-25-2008, 08:21 PM
This was a great week for Marin,but matches like this make me think he is a very stupid player.

He has much to be concerned about imo.
1.He is basically a hit or miss player only.He tries to go for a winner way too often.His tactics are poor.
2.His slice is an awful shot.
3.His on court thinking is non existing.When you play against such a player like Simon who gets everything back,you need to be patient.Today was obviously the day in which he couldnt get all those bombs in.Therefore,he should have played a bit more defensive and use some top spin.
But his shots have absolutely no spin and instead of being patient in rallies he just throwed it all away.

He needs to learn to control himself on the court and use different tactics if his A game isnt working.

And today,well,as I said,he had only one plan and that was going for it in every rally,that didnt work,and he was completely lost.

Cant be nothing more than a solid top 50 player with that.

lalit
07-25-2008, 08:27 PM
The match against Gasquet was particularly ugly. When he plays poorly, it's not pretty to watch with his style of game. But if you saw him for the first time one month ago, it might be a bit short to really know his game. Don't judge him on matches like the Gasquet one only.
his match today was dire too
i can understand if he is tired but his style of play just bores you to death

how the hell does he win matches on fast courts with that style of game
he won a tournament last week on hard court :tape:

TMJordan
07-25-2008, 08:47 PM
Nice fightback after the first set by Gilles. Marin played well in the first and then fell apart. Gilles continues his great play. He has been as good as anyone in the past couple weeks.

fast_clay
07-25-2008, 10:03 PM
:lol:

I've never seen him live before. Does he just prod the ball back at his opponent and wait for the mistakes to come?

he's a bigger pusher than 6'6" aussie cult hero Richard 'the SCHLONG' Fromberg...

he upsets you... power has no place in the modern game in The Rules According To Simple Simon...

fast_clay
07-25-2008, 10:07 PM
When will people realize that keeping the ball in play longer than the other guy is, in fact, playing "real" tennis, and not just the fun-pretend kind?

Seriously.

the equation is very simple... yes indeed...

Xenosys
07-25-2008, 10:08 PM
he's a bigger pusher than 6'6" aussie cult hero Richard 'the SCHLONG' Fromberg...

he upsets you... power has no place in the modern game in The Rules According To Simple Simon...

So do you think Sharapova could blow him off the court ? ;)


Truc,

I'll need to watch some of his matches mate, even if not live. I've been watching tennis for years, and I can't believe i haven't seen this guy play at all :)

*searches youtube*

GlennMirnyi
07-25-2008, 10:10 PM
What a pathetic match with an absurd and pathetic result.

Karolina_Sprem
07-25-2008, 10:10 PM
Cilic played like a mug. It's a wonder he came to the QF. His first serve percentage was low, his second serve wasn't impressive esp concerning how tall he is, and he mostly pushed his groundstrokes and they landed short. It was a battle of the pushers, who can push better than the other. All in all congrats to Simon for making a good run this tourny and reaching the semis.

Well Cilic has proved that he is a big name in a tennis word. By winning against Robredo and Roddick so "easily" he has shown his ability to be a Top 10 player. He is only 19 and from my perspective he has to work hard on his mentality...all other elements for being a top 10 player he has got...

fast_clay
07-25-2008, 11:01 PM
Well Cilic has proved that he is a big name in a tennis word. By winning against Robredo and Roddick so "easily" he has shown his ability to be a Top 10 player. He is only 19 and from my perspective he has to work hard on his mentality...all other elements for being a top 10 player he has got...

no...

wants to be goran...

impossible...

there is only one goran...

oranges
07-25-2008, 11:09 PM
Where exactly are the similarities with Goran? Big serve is almost a trademark of all Croatian players, but other than that?

Karolina_Sprem
07-25-2008, 11:10 PM
no...

wants to be goran...

impossible...

there is only one goran...

Well all youngsters in Croatia want to be "new Goran Ivanisevic" or "new Iva Majoli"...Can you blame them?

fast_clay
07-25-2008, 11:24 PM
no... u missunderstand me...

is Cilic the new Goran Prpic...?

:lol:

finishingmove
07-25-2008, 11:25 PM
Lol

Karolina_Sprem
07-25-2008, 11:26 PM
no... u missunderstand me...

is Cilic the new Goran Prpic...?

:lol:

Who the hell is Goran Prpic?:rolleyes:

fast_clay
07-25-2008, 11:31 PM
Who the hell is Goran Prpic?:rolleyes:


exactly...


u r feeling my funk...

fast_clay
07-25-2008, 11:34 PM
Goran 'the bionic knee' Prpic (CRO)

Pronounced: PRI-pitch

Birthdate: 4-May-64

Birthplace: Zagreb, Croatia

Residence: Zagreb, Croatia

Height: 5'11'' (180 cm)

Weight: 165 lbs (75 kg)

Plays: Right-handed

Turned Pro: 1984

Coach: Nikola Nadali


one of croatias finest...

actually... he got to atp#16... not a bad show actually...




he is not a hero in your country...?

i hear they have his original set of knees in a museum in zagreb...

Karolina_Sprem
07-25-2008, 11:35 PM
exactly...


u r feeling my funk...

no...

I can only feel your sarcasm but... I'll let it go... ;)

fast_clay
07-25-2008, 11:39 PM
no...

I can only feel your sarcasm but... I'll let it go... ;)

;)

ahh... u croats r good fun... :wavey:

prpic was fighter tho...

fast_clay
07-25-2008, 11:42 PM
no...

I can only feel your sarcasm but... I'll let it go... ;)


...truth be known...

i sought counselling after rafters loss in wimbledon 2001...

we spoke together till 2004...

umm...

cheers...

Karolina_Sprem
07-25-2008, 11:45 PM
;)

ahh... u croats r good fun... :wavey:

prpic was fighter tho...

We are all you wish...fun, good-looking, nice, polite, rude, bitchy, sexy, mean, emotional...etc etc etc... :D Just look at me...Dpn't you see all of these listed things on me... :D

You name it and we'll be... ;)

Prpic is a looser ... Only good thing was his work with Iva Majoli as a coach when she won RG....

Karolina_Sprem
07-25-2008, 11:51 PM
...truth be known...

i sought counselling after rafters loss in wimbledon 2001...

we spoke together till 2004...

umm...

cheers...

Oh c'mon .... no need to be a bitter...

I like Ozzie... My ex is from Sydney... Never seen ppl in my life who drink alcohol as you do guys... Well done ;)
And also I like Jelena Dokic :lol:

fast_clay
07-25-2008, 11:54 PM
We are all you wish...fun, good-looking, nice, polite, rude, bitchy, sexy, mean, emotional...etc etc etc... :D Just look at me...Dpn't you see all of these listed things on me... :D

You name it and we'll be... ;)

Prpic is a looser ... Only good thing was his work with Iva Majoli as a coach when she won RG....

yeah... the croat chicks i meet in bars always seem to know a fair bit about tennis... :eek: ... yeah...!

always good to get a foot in the door :fistpump:



ur a bit harsh on prpic tho i feel... c'mon... dude is a god...

:rocker2: :yeah:

DhammaTiger
07-25-2008, 11:58 PM
I am so happy that Gilles won :banana: :yippee. Allez Gilles and good luck in the semi final.

Eliande
07-26-2008, 12:06 AM
simon is exceptional at what he does. cilic was butchered mentally

I agree.;)

Eliande
07-26-2008, 12:10 AM
simon's game is mind numbing for the opponent but somehow i like watching him :lol:

So do I...:confused:

Eliande
07-26-2008, 12:11 AM
whoever wins the kiefer blake match, i hope that person will tear simon apart

Oh my... Why?:confused:

Rumour
07-26-2008, 01:11 AM
So I was keen to see how Cilic would follow up his fairly impressive performance against Roddick but essentially missed the first two sets (although the TV was on) and only really watched the third closely. If that one was anything to go by then this was indeed one stinker of a match :o The Croat in particular showed absolutely nothing of the solid form he displayed in his previous upset - he looked and played like a pale shadow of himself. He clearly still has a lot to learn about dealing with pressure in important matches where he's not the huge underdog.

Simon didn't have to do much and, like against Federer, was able to benefit from his opponent's implosion without really doing much to set it off. So no, I am still not charmed or convinced by the Frenchman and hope to see Kiefer dispatch him efficiently tomorrow :devil: However, I expect him to add at least one more title to his CV this month when the prestigious MTF Bandwagon Player of the Month award is announced - that is one honour I agree he deserves and has fully earned.

Tutu
07-26-2008, 09:29 AM
What a pathetic match with an absurd and pathetic result.

You only think it's a pathetic result because the player you hate won. :awww: bless.

krystlel
07-26-2008, 07:51 PM
Poor quality match. Cilic made huge amounts of unforced errors and Simon realizing he could probably win without going for much kept making him play. I would have liked to have seen Simon get better placement and depth on his shots to make the match a bit easier in the third set because even though Cilic played extremely poorly, he was still only one break behind but in the end it was enough to get the job done.