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James Blake's backhand is a crime to tennis

groundstroke
07-24-2008, 11:17 PM
... worst shot in the top 20? Worse than Gasquet's forehand? Yes.

Sean.
07-24-2008, 11:20 PM
Roddick's volley?

groundstroke
07-24-2008, 11:21 PM
No. Let's talk about how shit Blake's backhand is, if it was even as close to being as good as his forehand is, he would have won some big tournaments this year and the last couple of years.

finishingmove
07-24-2008, 11:22 PM
no

cool bird1
07-24-2008, 11:29 PM
James BH is a fine shot. But his mind is his weakness. If he had Rafa mind he would of won a couple of slams in his careerer

MrJ
07-24-2008, 11:36 PM
Its an ugly looking shot because he tends to muscle the ball. However, when he is timing it well its quite effective. It surely is no crime to tennis and there are far worse backhands (hello Feña) :o

habibko
07-24-2008, 11:38 PM
Feliciano Lopez's inability to hit anything but a slice with his backhand is the true crime to tennis.

leng jai
07-24-2008, 11:45 PM
Congratulations, you are the first genius to realise Blake has a weak backhand.

Henry Chinaski
07-24-2008, 11:52 PM
I have a strange fondness for Blake's backhand. No proper swing or follow-through just a shallow flat slap at the ball. It even manages to look effective occasionallly

groundstroke
07-25-2008, 12:02 AM
Feliciano Lopez's inability to hit anything but a slice with his backhand is the true crime to tennis.
Was fine for a set or two in the US Open 2007. Especially against Federer.

Grinder
07-25-2008, 12:03 AM
I have a strange fondness for Blake's backhand. No proper swing or follow-through just a shallow flat slap at the ball. It even manages to look effective occasionallly

Same. By no means is it one of the worst shots in the top 20, he can hit lots of winners off the backhand and even turn it into a weapon at times. Watch the fifth set of his Wimbledon loss to Schuettler and see how many screaming backhand winners he hit. He can also hit some huge returns with that backhand.

Worst groundstrokes in the top 20: Roddick's backhand, Gasquet's forehand, Gonzo's backhand, Stepanek's forehand and honorable mention to Ivo Karlovic's backhand at number 21. Wawrinka's forehand can suck at times as well.

Voo de Mar
07-25-2008, 12:05 AM
Blake's backhand isn't the nicest shot from technical point of view but he can play backhand on a very high level. This clip proves it:

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selyoink
07-25-2008, 12:08 AM
Blake's entire game is a crime to tennis except for his speed. And he doesn't even use that effectively.

Jaap
07-25-2008, 12:10 AM
Federer's backhand is the worst in the top 100, never mind top 20.

groundstroke
07-25-2008, 12:14 AM
Federer's backhand is the worst in the top 100, never mind top 20.
Ivo Karlovic. Andy Roddick.

moon language
07-25-2008, 12:17 AM
Roddick's backhand is worse than Blake's.

ServeAlready81
07-25-2008, 01:08 AM
Blake's entire game is a crime to tennis except for his speed. And he doesn't even use that effectively.

So what does that say about the the ATP tour considering he's been in the top 10 almost 2 years straight :confused:

Jimnik
07-25-2008, 01:20 AM
Indeed. If it weren't for Blake's BH, tennis would be the most popular sport in the world.

GlennMirnyi
07-25-2008, 01:44 AM
Blake's entire game is a crime to tennis except for his speed. And he doesn't even use that effectively.

What a huge bullshit. The guy has one of the best forehands on tour.

Federer's backhand is the worst in the top 100, never mind top 20.

That's true.

selyoink
07-25-2008, 01:44 AM
So what does that say about the the ATP tour considering he's been in the top 10 almost 2 years straight :confused:

It shows how bad most of the current group of players are.

groundstroke
07-25-2008, 01:45 AM
What a huge bullshit. The guy has one of the best forehands on tour.



That's true.
Fed's backhand is not the worst. Ivo Karlovic + Roddick.

cobalt60
07-25-2008, 01:48 AM
I have a strange fondness for Blake's backhand. No proper swing or follow-through just a shallow flat slap at the ball. It even manages to look effective occasionallly

And I have a strange fondness for Blake. :p Love watching him when he is on so NO.

GlennMirnyi
07-25-2008, 01:50 AM
Fed's backhand is not the worst. Ivo Karlovic + Roddick.

Fanboooooy alert.

Check the numbers of UEs from the backhand of those players... I think it's never even close to Frauderer's. Why? Because Karlovic isn't stupid and slices the ball and Roddick doesn't try to much, slices a lot too.

Frauderer on the other hand produces a million UEs from the backhand or feeds an easy short ball for the opponent.

groundstroke
07-25-2008, 01:51 AM
Lol. Federer has won 12 grand slams. Karlovic, Stepanek, Roddick, and all the others with crap backhands, aren't even close to him.

Voo de Mar
07-25-2008, 01:53 AM
IMO Blake has one of the best forehands and is one of the speedest players. Moreover he is a guy who has amazing reflex - he can play like no-one good returns from extremely fast services.
His 1st and 2nd serve quite good, volley as well; decent backhand; lousy tactician; pathetic mentality. This is Blake in my eyes.

cobalt60
07-25-2008, 01:56 AM
IMO Blake has one of the best forehands and is one of the speedest players. Moreover he is a guy who has amazing reflex - he can play like no-one good returns from extremely fast services.
1st and 2nd serve quite good, volley as well; decent backhand; lousy tactician; pathetic mentality. This is Blake in my eyes.

Agreed:yeah: I keep wondering what he could have achieved with the opposite of the last 2 on your list.

GlennMirnyi
07-25-2008, 02:10 AM
Lol. Federer has won 12 grand slams. Karlovic, Stepanek, Roddick, and all the others with crap backhands, aren't even close to him.

Stepanek doesn't have a weak backhand.

Fanboy. Go cry in your room now that Frauderer can't beat Simon. :rolleyes:

ryan23
07-25-2008, 02:13 AM
Atleast Blake can win matches with a poorish backhand-unlike the all serve or nothing Roddick who is losing so many matches this year..

Yappa
07-25-2008, 02:24 AM
He can actually create some nice angles with his bh.

jcempire
07-25-2008, 02:30 AM
James BH is a fine shot. But his mind is his weakness. If he had Rafa mind he would of won a couple of slams in his careerer

You read my mind, That's what I would like to say.

He never have patient enough for his shot, He got great BH, If he play with enough patient that he could be a Top player

groundstroke
07-25-2008, 02:46 AM
He got great BH? Are you kidding me? His backhand is a ridiculous shot. Absolute disgrace to tennis.

jcempire
07-25-2008, 02:50 AM
He got great BH? Are you kidding me? His backhand is a ridiculous shot. Absolute disgrace to tennis.

The reason is too many unforced error. SO it made you feel like a ridiculous shot

groundstroke
07-25-2008, 02:56 AM
It has a pathetic swing and he hardly makes any winners out of that side. :S

Bernard Black
07-25-2008, 08:47 AM
It's not a great shot, no. Ironically though, Blake matches up really well with Nadal who is the master of breaking down the backhand wing, so I wouldn't go as far as saying it's a crime to tennis. You can't carve as good a career as he has by having an amateur backhand, so go easy on him!

leng jai
07-25-2008, 09:03 AM
Well groundstroke thinks Federer has the greatest single hander of all time, so he is clearly an expert on the topic of single handed backhands.

Bernard Black
07-25-2008, 09:15 AM
Well groundstroke thinks Federer has the greatest single hander of all time, so he is clearly an expert on the topic of single handed backhands.

I've just made a mental note to check your sig before taking a backhand thread seriously ;)

leng jai
07-25-2008, 09:20 AM
I've just made a mental note to check your sig before taking a backhand thread seriously ;)

Good to see you are using it as originally intended.

Chrisilson
07-25-2008, 09:45 AM
It isn't as bad as Greg Rusedski's was, not even close. The only thing he could do was slice. He was the most infuriating player because his serve and volley were world class but his groundstrokes were just bloody awful.

Zolka
07-25-2008, 09:52 AM
Yeah, it's ugly, but not that bad, and doesn't really matter when he's in the zone, hitting winners from all over the place. :) Unfortunately it happens a lot less nowdays.

richie21
07-25-2008, 09:54 AM
... worst shot in the top 20? Worse than Gasquet's forehand? Yes.

No,not even close.
I admit though that Blake's one-handed BH is a bit weird(even though it's often efficient)

Deejay
07-25-2008, 09:59 AM
Blake's backhand is not a good shot, he seems to be able to hit it well in the odd match here and there but not on a consistent basis, which indicates that it's never been a natural shot for him. Talking of other strokes in the top 20, Gasquet's forehand is a nothing shot and i'm tempted to say so is Murray's at times, all spin and no penetration.

Kolya
07-25-2008, 10:06 AM
His whole game is quite ugly.

Damn
07-25-2008, 12:34 PM
His whole game is quite ugly.

What do you think of his forehand? Seriously.

FairWeatherFan
07-25-2008, 01:42 PM
Blake's backhand was woeful 2-3 years ago but he has improved it greatly since then. It is still streaky, he has his on and off-days, but I'd say on average it is a decent shot.

I'd also disagree with those who say Gonzalez' backhand is the worst because it is at times also very effective, like in the Federer match in the MC last year. That choppy slice was also extremely effectively in reaching the AO Final, particularly against Nadal.

The worst backhands in the top ~20 are Karlovic's and Roddick's, which are both consistently awful.

sheeter
07-25-2008, 04:49 PM
i think people consider Blake's backhand to be weak because of the way it looks. It has none of the elegance of Gasquet and Wawrinka, none of the tremendous wrist flick of Federer. It is a functional rally shot with a short backswing. It is simple and a functional rally shot most of the time, but on good days, it is a weapon. Blake's return off that wing is massive, and it should be noted he has a decent slice.

ChinoRios4Ever
07-25-2008, 07:21 PM
the hate of Blake here is really :bs:

many players in the ATP have poor bh than James

Bad Religion
07-25-2008, 07:30 PM
His whole tennis is a crime

Horrible player

Karolina_Sprem
07-25-2008, 10:28 PM
Blake is a solid player...I would say that he is VERY talented but also what I've noticed, he doesn't spend enough time by focusing on tennis like he should as a pro. I guess he likes and enjoy in some other things in life outside the tennis court.
It's his choice but he never gonna have results like he can/should have in tennis....

fast_clay
07-25-2008, 10:49 PM
yes...

it is a crime to the sport of lawn bowls as well...

beach volleyball have issued a request for a restraining order...

also... the world poker series is rumoured to be unhappy with it altogether...

Black Adam
07-20-2009, 10:50 PM
Roddick's backhand is worse than Blake's.
:bs: Roddick's backhand is top 10 in the top 20. It's even better than his forehand of 2003-2004. Enough said.

MacTheKnife
07-20-2009, 11:11 PM
Blakes BH is actually a technically sound one hander. Unfortunately it's connected to his brain.

Har-Tru
07-20-2009, 11:14 PM
Blakes BH is actually a relatively technically sound one hander. Unfortunately it's connected to his brain.

:haha:

Bargearse
07-20-2009, 11:35 PM
No. Mine is!

Dini
07-20-2009, 11:39 PM
It's that bad? :o

I've seen him rip a few stunners down the line. :shrug:

*hides for cover*

LaneLS88
07-21-2009, 01:52 AM
I'm not exactly a Blake fan at all, but everyone should be objective here. I don't think his backhand is that bad at all. It's not his strength, but he produces good pace off of it and when it's firing, he has some of the best returns of serve in the game. I'd say his backhand return is just as good, if not better than, his forehand return.

MacTheKnife
07-21-2009, 02:04 AM
I'm not exactly a Blake fan at all, but everyone should be objective here. I don't think his backhand is that bad at all. It's not his strength, but he produces good pace off of it and when it's firing, he has some of the best returns of serve in the game. I'd say his backhand return is just as good, if not better than, his forehand return.

I was only half kidding with my above post. Blakes BH is a technically sound one hander. It's the messages he sends to it from his brain that get him in trouble. If his shot selection was anything short of idiotic, he'd be getting big time props for his strokes.

LaneLS88
07-21-2009, 02:21 AM
Hey Mac, no problem. I wasn't really referring to your post above at all... I hadn't read it before I posted, actually, lol. But you're right. His shot selection can be suspect at times. I wouldn't say they're idiotic in general, because if they were, he wouldn't be a former top five player, but when he's struggling mentally, his shot selection certainly follows most of the time.

MacTheKnife
07-21-2009, 02:35 AM
Hey Mac, no problem. I wasn't really referring to your post above at all... I hadn't read it before I posted, actually, lol. But you're right. His shot selection can be suspect at times. I wouldn't say they're idiotic in general, because if they were, he wouldn't be a former top five player, but when he's struggling mentally, his shot selection certainly follows most of the time.

Oh I know you weren't and I was agreeing with you. Blake always had potential to be higher ranked than he was. His inability or I should say, unwillingness to change his tactics or have a plan B when the bashing away was not working has always been his biggest problem. He says it out right, I'm an attacking player and I'm not changing my game. He's right where that kind of thinking gets you, on a slide downwards.

LaneLS88
07-21-2009, 02:54 AM
You're channeling Johnny Mac himself... ha, he's also stated many times he believes Blake needs a Plan B. I agree too. He has potential on all surfaces. He's not really known as a clay court or grass court player, but he's actually had decent results at some tournaments on those surfaces. He's shown, though, that when his attacking game isn't working, he sort of drowns, especially on those surfaces.

I think his agility would lend credence to a very good defensive game if he were to play defense more, but such is not the case.

timafi
07-21-2009, 01:14 PM
You're channeling Johnny Mac himself... ha, he's also stated many times he believes Blake needs a Plan B. I agree too. He has potential on all surfaces. He's not really known as a clay court or grass court player, but he's actually had decent results at some tournaments on those surfaces. He's shown, though, that when his attacking game isn't working, he sort of drowns, especially on those surfaces.

I think his agility would lend credence to a very good defensive game if he were to play defense more, but such is not the case.


he has better footwork;return of serve and speed compared to Roddick if we can compare the 2 of them
but he doesn't slide that well on clay and he himself has stated that he will NOT make any kind of adjustments to his game regardless of surface thus him winning all of his 10-11 little titles on nothing but hard courts:shrug:

the absolute best players talk about adjustments when they change surfaces:Federer;Nadal;Murray and Djokovic from playing more defense on clay and adding spin to standing closer to the baseline like Nadal has stated when playing on hard courts to attacking on grass if need be but this arrogant fool doesn't see it that way:rolleyes:

now some will say but James has made 2 or maybe 3 finals on clay but I'll say to these people.Was it in Monte Carlo;Rome;Hamburg when Hamburg was a MS or was it in Madrid?the answer is simply hell NO!and who did he lose against in those finals?a bunch of nobodies:shrug:

he seems to think that at the age of 30 that he can still go far in slams since he believes he "excels on grass and hard courts" despite not winning a MS series on either surface he supposedly "excels" on.

he doesn't think that replacing Barker is the right thing to do when he hasn't won a title since 2007;hasn't won a Master Series;hasn't made it to just 1 semis finals:tape:

Burrow
07-21-2009, 01:26 PM
:bs: Roddick's backhand is top 10 in the top 20. It's even better than his forehand of 2003-2004. Enough said.

Roddick's backhand is better than his forehand of 2003/04?

What have you been smoking....:o

ORGASMATRON
07-21-2009, 09:07 PM
... worst shot in the top 20? Worse than Gasquet's forehand? Yes.

Are ou kidding me? Gasquets FH is way worse. So is Rafalafa's volleys.

Har-Tru
07-21-2009, 10:05 PM
Nadal's volleys aren't bad. He just doesn't use them.

This is Sparta
07-21-2009, 10:09 PM
Blake himself is a crime to tennis

A_Skywalker
07-21-2009, 10:10 PM
... worst shot in the top 20? Worse than Gasquet's forehand? Yes.

While you are sitting here and saying how bad he is, James is sitting in his multimillion house and laughing at you ;)

Sapeod
07-21-2009, 10:11 PM
Blake himself is a crime to tennis
American tennis is a crime to tennis.

Burrow
07-21-2009, 10:11 PM
While you are sitting here and saying how bad he is, James is sitting in his multimillion house and laughing at you ;)

While you're sitting here saying how ugly Federer is, he's sitting in his multi million house not even thinking of you ;)

A_Skywalker
07-21-2009, 10:13 PM
While you're sitting here saying how ugly Federer is, he's sitting in his multi million house not even thinking of you ;)

While you are masturbating watching Federer, he doesnt even care for you.

Sapeod
07-21-2009, 10:15 PM
While you guys are arguing I'm going to get a sandwich.

ORGASMATRON
07-21-2009, 10:35 PM
American tennis is a crime to tennis.

Seconded. Ill add to that that America is a crime to humankind. Ok just kidding :)

While you guys are arguing I'm going to get a sandwich.

:lol:

Sapeod
07-21-2009, 10:38 PM
Seconded. Ill add to that that America is a crime to humankind. Ok just kidding :)



:lol:
:lol:

ORGASMATRON
07-21-2009, 10:42 PM
:lol:

:lol:

Sapeod
07-21-2009, 10:44 PM
:lol:
Making harsh jokes about certain things is the shizz :smoke:

superslam77
07-21-2009, 10:45 PM
:armed: America and George Bush are a crime to humankind.

ORGASMATRON
07-21-2009, 10:51 PM
Making harsh jokes about certain things is the shizz :smoke:

Always.

:armed: America and George Bush are a crime to humankind.

Yup, luckily that dictator have been removed :) Long live Obama!

Forehander
07-22-2009, 03:36 AM
His forehand isn't that good. It's a pretty ugly stroke actually.

Ozone
07-22-2009, 03:38 AM
His forehand isn't that good. It's a pretty ugly stroke actually.
Hardest hit forehand on tour. Period. I have watched him play twice and anyone who has seen him would probably agree.

Ozone
07-22-2009, 03:38 AM
Do we need to let everyone know the demise of JB? I thought it was pretty obvious.

jrm
07-22-2009, 07:36 AM
Feliciano Lopez's inability to hit anything but a slice with his backhand is the true crime to tennis.


Worked for Steffi Graf ;)

ORGASMATRON
07-22-2009, 07:45 AM
Worked for Steffi Graf ;)

Ok now your talking about a different sport.