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Toronto R3: Murray beats Wawrinka 6-2 0-6 6-4

groundstroke
07-24-2008, 08:02 PM
Wawrinka's backhand in the last couple of games was awful. What was Murray doing in that bagel?

LinkMage
07-24-2008, 08:03 PM
WTA scoreline. :o

Clydey
07-24-2008, 08:03 PM
Murray was great in the first set and Stan was poor. Stan was great in the second set and Murray was poor. And they were both lacklustre in the 3rd set.

Job done. Murray's a fighter if nothing else. He'll likely get spanked by Djokovic again tomorrow if he plays anything like he did in the last 2 sets.

octatennis
07-24-2008, 08:03 PM
murray:worship:

octatennis
07-24-2008, 08:04 PM
it was posted before finish. delete it please.

federernadalfan
07-24-2008, 08:04 PM
rooted for wawrinka but good job murray

federernadalfan
07-24-2008, 08:05 PM
late, mods merge this with other thread

octatennis
07-24-2008, 08:05 PM
late bitch...

scoobs
07-24-2008, 08:06 PM
When someone asks me "show me what you like about watching Andy Murray", this is the match I will absolutely NOT be digging out to show them :o

That second set made the Baby Jesus cry.

Comedy scoreline for a match that sucked all the humour out of me.

Djokovic will slap Andy tomorrow but no matter.

Clydey
07-24-2008, 08:06 PM
it was posted before finish. delete it please.

No, it wasn't. I posted it the second Stan hit the net on match point.

Horatio Caine
07-24-2008, 08:06 PM
Typical Murray, often guilty of wearing a skirt. :silly:

At least he got the job done anyway, but little doubt that Djokovic will slap him silly tomorrow. :tape:

Mashachosen1
07-24-2008, 08:06 PM
Stan :sad:

Andi-M
07-24-2008, 08:07 PM
Overall 4/10 for Muzza real bad play from him he's not been to hot on hardcourts this year has he??

I am impressed with how he recovered from that 2nd set performance. He needs to be about 200% better against Djokovic but who knows he may be able to do it. Nole's not on top form either atm.

schorsch
07-24-2008, 08:07 PM
what a pitty for stan... this muzza lulling game just doesnt suit him plus way to many UE in the end :sad:

Clydey
07-24-2008, 08:07 PM
When someone asks me "show me what you like about watching Andy Murray", this is the match I will absolutely NOT be digging out to show them :o

That second set made the Baby Jesus cry.

Comedy scoreline for a match that sucked all the humour out of me.

Djokovic will slap Andy tomorrow but no matter.

Not if he plays like he did in the first set. If he plays like he did in the last 2 sets, we can expect breadsticks and bagels galore.

oranges
07-24-2008, 08:07 PM
Stan :(

dodoboy
07-24-2008, 08:07 PM
Oh Andy :o

At least you are in QF

ChinoRios4Ever
07-24-2008, 08:07 PM
typical Muzza's match score :lol:

MIMIC
07-24-2008, 08:08 PM
I only saw the end of the 2nd set and then the third.

What happened in the 2nd set? :lol:

federernadalfan
07-24-2008, 08:08 PM
late bitch...

:confused::rolleyes:

groundstroke
07-24-2008, 08:09 PM
People saying Wawrinka's backhand is great.. What was it doing in the last couple of games? Error festival from that side.

Clydey
07-24-2008, 08:09 PM
I only saw the end of the 2nd set and then the third.

What happened in the 2nd set? :lol:

Murray decided he was playing well, so thought he'd throw in a set of UEs to temper his good play. He doesn't like winning comfortably, you see.

scoobs
07-24-2008, 08:10 PM
Not if he plays like he did in the first set. If he plays like he did in the last 2 sets, we can expect breadsticks and bagels galore.
He hit some nice shots in the first set but it's easy to look good when your opponent is working so hard to make themselves look bad, and Stan was BAD in the first set. Not as bad as Andy was in the second, which was truly bizarre, but still pretty bad.

Andy I love ya but I want those 2 hours of my life back :o

anon57
07-24-2008, 08:10 PM
:o Only saw the last two sets and it wasn't pretty, well done to Murray for getting the win

Clydey
07-24-2008, 08:11 PM
People saying Wawrinka's backhand is great.. What was it doing in the last couple of games? Error festival from that side.

It seems to be the way with power players. When they're on it looks great, but they never seem to maintain it. It was a performance Blake would have been proud of.

Clydey
07-24-2008, 08:12 PM
He hit some nice shots in the first set but it's easy to look good when your opponent is working so hard to make themselves look bad, and Stan was BAD in the first set. Not as bad as Andy was in the second, which was truly bizarre, but still pretty bad.

Andy I love ya but I want those 2 hours of my life back :o

It was pretty dire. It's rare that he'll play an entire match with complete focus. It just never seems to happen. Still, he certainly does fight for his wins when he's playing poorly.

groundstroke
07-24-2008, 08:12 PM
It seems to be the way with power players. When they're on it looks great, but they never seem to maintain it. It was a performance Blake would have been proud of.
Nah, Blake would have been proud of the bagel and would have stopped. Wawrinka choked badly at 4-3 down.

2moretogo
07-24-2008, 08:14 PM
Another player fails prey to the "I bageled Murray for the second set and still lost."

The Freak
07-24-2008, 08:14 PM
Strange behavior from Murray in this one...every point he lost he reacted like he was dying, and with every point won he acted as if he had won Wimbledon.

Clydey
07-24-2008, 08:16 PM
Another player fails prey to the "I bageled Murray for the second set and still lost."

Something Djokovic can never be accused of. He bagel's Murray and then bagel's him again, just out of badness.

rocketassist
07-24-2008, 08:16 PM
Another player fails prey to the "I bageled Murray for the second set and still lost."

Who else did? Murray usually bagels his opponents and loses (Boredo, Gasquet, Tsonga)

Andi-M
07-24-2008, 08:17 PM
Strange behavior from Murray in this one...every point he lost he reacted like he was dying, and with every point won he acted as if he had won Wimbledon.

:lol: true.

Jaap
07-24-2008, 08:17 PM
Wawrinka is mentally weak as piss.

scoobs
07-24-2008, 08:17 PM
Strange behavior from Murray in this one...every point he lost he reacted like he was dying, and with every point won he acted as if he had won Wimbledon.
Yeah that's just Andy when he's decided to fight himself for a bit as well as the opponent - every point he magnifies the intensity to the point of absurdity..

He needs to get a grip really - having a little dip in a match is one thing, having a little Grand Canyon sized trough is another.

groundstroke
07-24-2008, 08:21 PM
Cannot wait to see Scoob's reaction when Murray gets slaughtered by Djokovic in the next match.

scoobs
07-24-2008, 08:24 PM
Cannot wait to see Scoob's reaction when Murray gets slaughtered by Djokovic in the next match.
I'll probably be laughing at how clueless Andy still looks playing Nole when he will have played him 4 times on a hard surface and still has no real idea what to do to win.

Just so you're not up tonight stressing in anticipation :)

groundstroke
07-24-2008, 08:26 PM
I'll probably be laughing at how clueless Andy still looks playing Nole when he will have played him 4 times on a hard surface and still has no real idea what to do to win.

Just so you're not up tonight stressing in anticipation :)
Ooh I cannot wait for the humiliation Djokovic will give him. :devil::devil::devil:

Clydey
07-24-2008, 08:27 PM
Ooh I cannot wait for the humiliation Djokovic will give him. :devil::devil::devil:

Christ, I wish you would make up your mind :p

Schu
07-24-2008, 09:28 PM
Not if he plays like he did in the first set. If he plays like he did in the last 2 sets, we can expect breadsticks and bagels galore.

I was watching Roddick (which was fun to see him go down) but was Murray that good in first set or Stan off? When I switched to the grandstand court Murray was up 3-0 and the TV stats showed Stan had 11 UE in 3 games - doesn't look like Murray had to do much in those first 3 games?

Corey Feldman
07-24-2008, 09:29 PM
well done

Acer
07-24-2008, 09:31 PM
WTA scoreline. :o

Well Wawrinka is supposed to be a gayer

leng jai
07-24-2008, 09:35 PM
Clydey your obssession with posting about Murray rivals Clown Death's Nadal rants.

Jimnik
07-24-2008, 09:43 PM
Well don MAndy.

Shame that all the contenders are in the bottom half of the draw.

tangerine_dream
07-24-2008, 09:47 PM
Typical bizarro Murray scoreline.

Lube up for tomorrow, Andy. :devil:

TMJordan
07-24-2008, 10:21 PM
Stan played like a mug.

adee-gee
07-24-2008, 10:42 PM
Didn't see the match, and it sounds like it wasn't hugely impressive but it's a decent win nevertheless, I'll take it.

Very slim chances of beating Djokovic, I'm hopeful he can at least keep it relatively close. Will need to serve well and have no brainfarts though.

Clydey
07-24-2008, 10:46 PM
Clydey your obssession with posting about Murray rivals Clown Death's Nadal rants.

You can count on one hand the number of threads I've created since I joined MTF, let alone threads about Murray. I posted the result of his match. Sue me.

I do participate in many other threads, you know. But hey, why let the truth get in the way of your baseless opinions?

Clydey
07-24-2008, 10:47 PM
I was watching Roddick (which was fun to see him go down) but was Murray that good in first set or Stan off? When I switched to the grandstand court Murray was up 3-0 and the TV stats showed Stan had 11 UE in 3 games - doesn't look like Murray had to do much in those first 3 games?

It was a combination of the two. Murray was being aggressive and Stan was a bit off. The roles reversed in the second set, only Murray played worse in the second than Stan did in the first.

TankingTheSet
07-24-2008, 10:50 PM
I'm surprised nobody saw the first set, it was quite dramatic.

Murray was up 4-0* when Wawrinka called the trainer for his knee. They waited for the trainer. Wawrinka's body language was awful and he seemed to be on the verge of retirement. After long treatment on his knee Wawrinka started serving. He was 15-40 down, but managed to hold his service game. After that he said to the trainer his knee was still the same, but he continued and in the rest of the match he looked OK (especially when bagelling Murray). I'm pretty sure Wawrinka would have retired if Murray had taken one of those breakpoints at 4-0*.

Clydey
07-24-2008, 10:51 PM
I'm surprised nobody saw the first set, it was quite dramatic.

Murray was up 4-0* when Wawrinka called the trainer for his knee. They waited for the trainer. Wawrinka's body language was awful and he seemed to be on the verge of retirement. After long treatment on his knee Wawrinka started serving. He was 15-40 down, but managed to hold his service game. After that he said the trainer his knee was still the same, but he continued and in the rest of the match he looked OK (especially when bagelling Murray). I'm pretty sure Wawrinka would have retired if Murray had taken one of those breakpoints at 4-0*.

Yeah, I got that feeling too.

Turquoise
07-25-2008, 05:56 AM
The Brad Gilbert effect must have rubbed off on Murray: win ugly. Not suprised to see a bagel in between. :lol: I sensed that if Wawrinka had managed to break him in the 1st game of 3rd set (resulting in 7 game losing streak for Murray), the outcome would have been different. So, really great that Murray found a way to motivate himself, the agonies and ecstasies of each point demonstrated just how badly he wanted to win - and he did. Keep the fighting spirit, and good luck against Djokovic.

Nathaliia
07-25-2008, 06:14 AM
typical Murray vs. Wawrinka match and a typical outcome

JolánGagó
07-25-2008, 06:50 AM
Well done Muzza, sad you'll be obliterated tomorrow.

Sheepy
07-25-2008, 06:58 AM
Congrats to Murray for squeaking out the win, but that scoreline is just :tape:

Duncan
07-25-2008, 10:52 AM
Fair to say that Andy will get battered today if he plays like that....


actually! He will get battered anyway i think. He ain't shown much this year to suggest he is anywhere near the level of the top 3.

If he wins i will be very surprised!

Corey Feldman
07-25-2008, 10:58 AM
2 times he beat Wawa this year he went on to win the title ...

RogandyFan
07-25-2008, 07:57 PM
Murray decided he was playing well, so thought he'd throw in a set of UEs to temper his good play. He doesn't like winning comfortably, you see.
So he was trying to hit winners and made UEs instead? i would rather see that than him pushing the ball back and win in two sets.

Clydey
07-25-2008, 07:59 PM
So he was trying to hit winners and made UEs instead? i would rather see that than him pushing the ball back and win in two sets.

Nah, he played aggressiely in the first set and, after losing break points in the first game of the second set, he went into his shell and decided to just wait for errors. You'd think he'd realise that it's a dumb tactic.

Xenosys
07-25-2008, 08:05 PM
Nah, he played aggressiely in the first set and, after losing break points in the first game of the second set, he went into his shell and decided to just wait for errors. You'd think he'd realise that it's a dumb tactic.

You'd think... :)

I'm still a bit perplexed why Murray is never able to fight the urge to become so defensive. Surely, by now, he's able to identify when he's lost his attacking edge and to be able to devise some form of strategy to counter-act that.

I'm thinking it's perhaps more of a confidence & psychological issue than anything else. He may recognise he's retracting back into his shell at some point in a match and struggles emotionally to deal with it, until a little inspiration is created or thrown his way that changes his current mindset into a more positive outlook.

Clydey
07-25-2008, 08:10 PM
You'd think... :)

I'm still a bit perplexed why Murray is never able to fight the urge to become so defensive. Surely, by now, he's able to identify when he's lost his attacking edge and to be able to devise some form of strategy to counter-act that.

I'm thinking it's perhaps more of a confidence & psychological issue than anything else. He may recognise he's retracting back into his shell at some point in a match and struggles emotionally to deal with it, until a little inspiration is created or thrown his way that changes his current mindset into a more positive outlook.

It's a confidence thing. He's afraid to miss. If he misses one or two forehands/backhands or he's, say, break point down, he'll usually wait for an error. He seems terrified of potentially handing points to his opponent. And when he does force himself to go for shots, he doesn't seem to fully commit, like he's unsure that he's doing the right thing.

Xenosys
07-25-2008, 08:15 PM
It's a confidence thing. He's afraid to miss. If he misses one or two forehands/backhands or he's, say, break point down, he'll usually wait for an error. He seems terrified of potentially handing points to his opponent. And when he does force himself to go for shots, he doesn't seem to fully commit, like he's unsure that he's doing the right thing.

I'm sure through experience, that 'should' remedy itself. Being able to identify what shots to play and in what situations should come with time. I have noticed him become a little hesitant when going for some of his shots during a slump, which is normally when those drop shots come in, like he's trying to play his 'get out of jail' free card :)

Clydey
07-25-2008, 08:38 PM
I'm sure through experience, that 'should' remedy itself. Being able to identify what shots to play and in what situations should come with time. I have noticed him become a little hesitant when going for some of his shots during a slump, which is normally when those drop shots come in, like he's trying to play his 'get out of jail' free card :)

Yep, exactly. He also seems scared of short balls. He often plays a drop shot off of them, which is stupidity. It's like he doesn't believe he can get short balls up over the net and back down in time. He needs to use his ability at thet net more. Being defensive is a waste of his talent.