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Kiwi's summer hardcourt season 2008 (soon playing: US Open)

Yappa
07-21-2008, 08:28 PM
Here we go again. It's time for the US Open series, though it'll be interrupted by Beijing this year. ;)
And Kiwi continues being in good shape, beating Fish 7:5, 7:6(4). He was down twice in the 2nd set (with a break, and 1:4 in the TB), but pulled off the win. :) Too bad that he played on a court without any TV coverage. At least he could finish before the rain delay. Next up is either Youzhny, whom he defeated in Halle, or Seppi (:mad:).

Neely
07-21-2008, 10:39 PM
lol, probably Seppi would be the worse opponent for Kiwi?! We can't really say if he still had it in the back of his head when playing him and if it affected him in any way. Youzhny is the better player normally and more dangerous, but in bad form at least gives you some unforced errors, and we all saw how bad Kiwi likes Seppi's style (on clay last time he could do nothing with his shots than just pushing them back into the court).

Yappa
07-24-2008, 11:23 AM
So it was Youzhny, after all, and Kiwi made it 1:1 between Germany and Russia by defeating him again. 7:6, 7:5. :yeah:
1h 20 for the first set. :eek:

His next match, against Davydenko, should finally take place on a Showcourt, the Grandstand. If there's no rain, of course.

Neely, could you please change the thread title?

TommyB.
07-24-2008, 01:26 PM
Vamos Kiwi!! Kick Davy's butt!! :devil:

Neely
07-24-2008, 04:53 PM
nice surprise today morning as I saw the result :yippee:

Now a win against Davydenko would be really an exclamation mark! :yeah:

ouch
07-24-2008, 09:36 PM
nice surprise today morning as I saw the result :yippee:

Now a win against Davydenko would be really an exclamation mark! :yeah:

Yes, the result this morning was very good. :)
Hopefully I´ll read something similar tomorrow morning, because with the rain delay I can´t watch Kiefer (hopefully) winning.

Yappa
07-25-2008, 01:49 AM
F...yeah, Kiwi (with a new haircut, btw.) won. :yeah:
The russian was already leading with a break in the 2nd set.
Kiwi wasted 2 SPs in a row, but managed to still win the set by converting the 4th one.
There was a very long rally at 15:30 in the first game of the final set, which he won thanks to a drop shot. Really important not get broken right away.

Next up is Blake. Blake is leading the H2H 3:0, but if Kiefer manages to continue playing from the baseline like he did today (and with a little bit help from Blake)....who knows. Better than Nadal or Djokovic, that's for sure. :D

16681
07-25-2008, 05:15 AM
I'm glad Kiwi kept the German flag flying against Davy since Tommy couldn't do it :)

HoistDaColors
07-25-2008, 06:47 AM
impressive kiwi :worship: i like the new haircut too.

TommyB.
07-25-2008, 07:55 AM
Another good win for Kiwi! :yeah: He's on fire at the moment.

Neely
07-25-2008, 04:51 PM
Really good that he has beaten Davydenko, but he needs to overcome a 0-3 h2h against Blake. I hope he has a better chance today because he is a very good form!

Neely
07-25-2008, 07:12 PM
Kiefer def. Blake 6-1 6-2

very good, I didn't ever think of that!! :eek:

Loved a few points, especially one in the 2nd set which was a rather long rally and as Kiefer was able to turn defense into offense after some running.

sploush
07-25-2008, 07:14 PM
Wow!!! Kiefer player really really well, hope he keeps it up against Simon.

Yappa
07-25-2008, 07:26 PM
That was the bp at 3:2*, 15:40. Best rally of the match. :yeah:
His bh return was working so well, it reminded me of one match against Andreev at Roland Garros (Waske was doing co commentary for that one). :yeah:

zethand
07-26-2008, 01:34 AM
Wow.. Kiefer is doing a great job!! I hope he can beat Simon!

koipond
07-26-2008, 04:13 AM
great job !! :yeah:
go to the fainal,unt get the tittle!

kiwi10is
07-26-2008, 06:51 AM
http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.atptennis.com/1/posting/2008/422/mds.pdf

such a nice draw for Cincy... but Toronto, Cincy, Olympia and US Open... can he really play all of them???

TommyB.
07-26-2008, 08:51 AM
great stuff :cool:

Simon & Blake again in Cincy :D But will he play there?

Neely
07-26-2008, 11:51 AM
Maybe it would be clever to say no to Cincy.

But first his focus should be on trying the best for today. Simon isn't that easy and we know that Kiwi usually has more problems when playing a soft hitter.

Yappa
07-26-2008, 12:06 PM
I wouldn't be too unhappy if he won today's match and then lost the Cincy 1R one.

Yappa
07-26-2008, 11:30 PM
Expected 3rd set TB win. :lol:

Geeze, I almost died!

Kiefer drop shots and lobs Simon out of the tournament, but only because the frenchman didn't seem willing to accept Kiefer's choking gift. Man, that was nervewrecking. I don't care what happens tomorrow.

Congrats for making your first Masters final. Better late than never. ;)

I'll probably root for Murray tonight, although I don't really like him too much.

TommyB.
07-26-2008, 11:37 PM
What a match. :worship: I'm glad that Simon missed this overhead at 5:4 and 15:15 in the final set. First Masters Series final for Kiwi...Nadal looks unbeatable but let's see.

Neely
07-27-2008, 12:01 AM
Towel, please! :unsure:

It wasn't TOTALLY convincing. He should have served out and not gotten that tight when it mattered. But at the end I'm of course glad that another choke-like performance like against Seppi -needless to say it was a similiar player type as Simon- did not happen today.

The match had lows and highs from both players, but I totally loved some shots of Kiwi he was hitting. Not only the dropshots, also some things like a confident forehand or a good backhand longline which was played with determination.

knight_ley
07-27-2008, 12:02 AM
:woohoo:

Neely
07-27-2008, 12:06 AM
Kiefer drop shots and lobs Simon out of the tournament, but only because the frenchman didn't seem willing to accept Kiefer's choking gift.
Dito.

Congrats for making your first Masters final. Better late than never. ;)
Honestly, I did not think anymore that I was going to erleben such a result of Kiwi anymore.

Even better that he finally made it, although it probably just means lost final #10 in a row, but he may not think like that and should see it as a positive happening to be there.


What a match. :worship: I'm glad that Simon missed this overhead at 5:4 and 15:15 in the final set. First Masters Series final for Kiwi...Nadal looks unbeatable but let's see.
Yes, that overhead smash could have put him under pressure on serve. We better not did see what would have happened after that. It could be Kiwi pulled himself out again, or in the same vein, the match could have been over a minute later.

I rate his chances against Nadal almost zero, Murray would be the better opponent for him. Simply because he isn't that strong mentally and his overall play isn't at the level of Nadal's consistency.

knight_ley
07-27-2008, 01:27 AM
I am hoping they're showing this match at midnight. They keep promoting it during the current Nadal/Murray match, but they're not saying what they're showing. Hopefully it'll be Kiwi since they didn't show it live. If not, at least I get to see him tomorrow! :woohoo:

To anyone who was a regular in the "I hate Kiwi" thread, we brought it back in GM for celebrations. ;)

zveeen
07-27-2008, 09:08 AM
Kiwi :woohoo:

kfh_9118
07-27-2008, 12:17 PM
what a surprise to see Kiwi in the TMS final :woohoo:

as much as I want him to win a title again (after such a long time), to beat Nadal will be a very tough task :o So I am already very happy with his result and won't be too disappointed if he loses in the final.

Good luck Kiwi

Neely
07-27-2008, 08:06 PM
All right, Kiwi lost which had to be expected. I feel he should have done more in this fifth game of the 2nd set, but overall it would have been probably too tough to win against Nadal anyway.

No big reason to be disappointed, neither for fans or Kiwi himself. He seemed to have enjoyed the week and I have some good hope that he can look back to this happening with a positive attitude.

During his speech he was saying something like: "Thanks to the ball kids and linespeople, I know I was ugly sometimes with you, but I reached the final, so it wasn't too bad" :lol:

And he also had some warm words to Rafa. I think he wouldn't have said it like that to everybody, they also chatted a bit more while presenting their trophies for the photographers. So together with what we saw after their other matches, it seems they're getting along quite well.

Also while posing for the photographers, I think Nadal was asking him if he's going somewhere, maybe the tournament-ending party. Kiwi said something and then Nadal said like "okay, see you there". I'm not sure if I got this right at all because it was almost inaudible due to the background noise and the microphone being further away. Maybe somebody else understood more than me.

knight_ley
07-27-2008, 08:55 PM
I tried not to get my hopes up between last night and today, and I failed. :lol:

I knew he wouldn't win, but I was hoping for three sets. Oh well... I'm still very very proud of him for this achievement. :)




If anyone had video of his speech, can you post it? ESPN2 decided not to show the ceremony... as usual. :mad:

Neely
07-27-2008, 09:14 PM
If anyone had video of his speech, can you post it? ESPN2 decided not to show the ceremony... as usual. :mad:
German TV doesn't show Masters Series, as usual :lol: I watched on a stream, but I couldn't offer you any recording because I don't know how it works and because the quality isn't exactly good that it would be so worthy recording it.

Neely
07-28-2008, 08:54 PM
Thanks to this Masters fianl, Kiwi jumped into the TOP 20 again, he's currently #19! :rocker2: Quite a good story how he makes it up there again and again :worship:

knight_ley
07-28-2008, 10:06 PM
Thanks to this Masters fianl, Kiwi jumped into the TOP 20 again, he's currently #19! :rocker2: Quite a good story how he makes it up there again and again :worship:

Let's hope he stays there a bit longer this time around. ;)

Yappa
07-29-2008, 01:05 AM
I tried not to get my hopes up between last night and today, and I failed. :lol:

Well, I didn't have any real hope, but was still frustrated that Nadal killed off all of Kiefer's break chances. I was doing some other things while following the match, but in said game, every time that I looked at the stream, Kiwi had bp and couldn't convert. I missed how he actually made the points to get another bp or how he made it back from Adv Nadal to Deuce. That whole game was a terrible experience. :lol:


If anyone had video of his speech, can you post it? ESPN2 decided not to show the ceremony... as usual. :mad:

If I had a good tool to cut asf files, then I could upload it. I'll see if I can find anything.
I still have to watch the ceremony. I didn't watch the Wimbledon one either. :D

knight_ley
07-29-2008, 01:15 AM
That whole game was a terrible experience. :lol:

So true! The entire match I kept saying that I just wanted Kiwi to break him once, and he had so many chances in that game. :banghead: Rafa is just too good. Can't even let our Kiwi get one little break. ;)

JMG
07-29-2008, 07:39 PM
Kinda expected withdrawal from him. I guess he couldn't care less about Cincinnati now with Beijing coming up.

Yappa
07-29-2008, 08:22 PM
Yeah, you're probably right. No need to take any unnecessary risks, now that he had such a fantastic week in Toronto.
Beijing is just too important for him. :)

knight_ley
08-19-2008, 12:53 AM
USO in a week!!!!!! :woohoo: I'm going the entire first week (with the exception of Wednesday) so hopefully I'll get to see him! ;)

Yappa
08-21-2008, 07:05 PM
His quarter:

(8) Andy Roddick (USA) vs Fabrice Santoro (FRA)
Ernests Gulbis (LAT) vs Thomas Johansson (SWE)
Guillermo Garcia-Lopez (ESP) vs Dominik Hrbaty (SVK)
Hyung-Taik Lee (KOR) vs (31) Andreas Seppi (ITA)

(20) Nicolas Kiefer (GER) vs Ivo Minar (CZE)
(WC) Scoville Jenkins (USA) vs Jarkko Nieminen (FIN)
Bobby Reynolds (USA) vs QUALIFIER
Ivan Navarro (ESP) vs (11) Fernando Gonzalez (CHI)

(15) Tommy Robredo (ESP) vs Mischa Zverev (GER)
Vincent Spadea (USA) vs Marat Safin (RUS)
QUALIFIER vs Carlos Moya (ESP)
Santiago Ventura (ESP) vs (19) Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA)

(30) Marin Cilic (CRO) vs Julien Benneteau (FRA)
Robby Ginepri (USA) vs (WC) Amer Delic (USA)
QUALIFIER vs Nicolas Mahut (FRA)
Arnaud Clement vs (3) Novak Djokovic (SRB)

The first match is a no brainer. I just hope that it won't take longer than necessary.
As for Nieminen, I can easily see a tough 4 or 5 setter. Normally, he should defeat him, though.

Gonzalez is possible, too. As usual, we'll have to hope for a bad Gonzo forehand day.

Neely
08-22-2008, 02:13 AM
wow, it really payed off that he is again a seed

I hope his health status is okay!

knight_ley
08-22-2008, 11:43 PM
Ooh I could have a Kiwi / Roddick match. Hopefully he'll make it that far (and Andy of course) cuz I'd love to go to that one! :)

knight_ley
08-25-2008, 10:29 PM
Tomorrow's oop!


Court 13 - 11am start.
1 Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Andreja Klepac (SLO) v. Ai Sugiyama (JPN)[30]

2 Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Hyung-Taik Lee (KOR) v. Andreas Seppi (ITA)[31]

3 Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Nicolas Kiefer (GER)[20] v. Ivo Minar (CZE)

4 Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Camille Pin (FRA) v. Alize Cornet (FRA)[17]

5 Men's Doubles - 1st Rnd.
Michael McClune (USA)/ Kaes Van't Hof (USA) vs. Eric Butorac (USA)/Jaroslav Levinsky (CZE)

:woohoo: I promise to take lots of pictures!!!! :)

Yappa
08-25-2008, 10:58 PM
A showcourt, that's good news. :)

Neely
08-26-2008, 11:51 PM
He retired after 6-4 1-6 4-6 1-4 against Minar :sad:

They said it was a shoulder problem :banghead:
My hope is that it isn't so bad, and that he is soon back in action!


Sorry Mary you didn't have better luck with his match and had to witness these unfortunate circumstances and Kiwi not playing well today! :hug:

JMG
08-26-2008, 11:57 PM
In the first few games he looked really good from the baseline. I was expecting an easy win then. His baseline game just got worse and worse, the game at 4-4 in the third was an absolute shocker. From 40-0 he gifted point after point, it almost looked like a tank.

Neely
08-27-2008, 12:26 AM
In the first few games he looked really good from the baseline. I was expecting an easy win then. His baseline game just got worse and worse, the game at 4-4 in the third was an absolute shocker. From 40-0 he gifted point after point, it almost looked like a tank.
I only followed it on TV and my impression was from the first few minutes on as they showed a small part of his match that he looked kind of strange and without bite. As if he couldn't get a grip in the match.

For me as a viewer, there was no clear break visable from where on he exactly got his shoulder problem. Maybe it was this shocker game in the third, but I didn't see him reacting strange, checking it out or holding his shoulder in that game.

Yappa
08-27-2008, 12:30 AM
I read that he got treatment after the 3rd set. I didn't see much of the match either, though I witnissed him wasting 3 rebreak points at 0:40 in the 2nd set. Who knows what would have happened, if he had converted one of those chances. :sad:
Painful end of an otherwise pretty good HC summer season.

knight_ley
08-27-2008, 03:50 PM
He retired after 6-4 1-6 4-6 1-4 against Minar :sad:

They said it was a shoulder problem :banghead:
My hope is that it isn't so bad, and that he is soon back in action!


Sorry Mary you didn't have better luck with his match and had to witness these unfortunate circumstances and Kiwi not playing well today! :hug:
It's okay. There was a lot of fun in the first set & a half. Kiwi and the one ball girl were making all of us on that base line laugh. He was being typical Kiwi and she was probably like 18 and kept rolling her eyes at him and stuff. So Kiwi kept on like taking balls from her or the other kid and then just dropping them so she'd have to run all the way to him and back. They were hysterical! And we all kept laughing so much. And then she left. So I don't know if he asked her to be removed cuz she kept making faces at him and rolling her eyes, or if she quit. :lol: Either way it was quite amusing.

We went to his court right before Seppi/Lee began and I saw that there were two front row seats availible. We grabbed them and I told her that I would not be moving until Kiwi was over. :lol: So, as I promised, I have a lot of pictures to share with you all over the next few days. :) One is attached now. :)

In the first few games he looked really good from the baseline. I was expecting an easy win then. His baseline game just got worse and worse, the game at 4-4 in the third was an absolute shocker. From 40-0 he gifted point after point, it almost looked like a tank.
Yea and you could tell something was really not right at all because the first set and the beginning of the second he was himself. And then as that match went on and he started sucking, he was so lethargic out there. He wasn't talking to himself anymore, he wasn't yelling. He wasn't typical Kiwi losing. And when he called for the trainer and they just talked we all assumed maybe it was a stomach issue or something. But now that I am home and see it was a shoulder thing some little things make sense. Like before the match, during change overs, and when Minar when on a bathroom break, Kiwi kept working on his shoulder. I guess that is why...

Neely
08-27-2008, 04:01 PM
It's okay. There was a lot of fun in the first set & a half. Kiwi and the one ball girl were making all of us on that base line laugh. He was being typical Kiwi and she was probably like 18 and kept rolling her eyes at him and stuff. So Kiwi kept on like taking balls from her or the other kid and then just dropping them so she'd have to run all the way to him and back.
:haha: great story! I saw that ball girl, but of course we didn't see that she was annoyed so much by some of his routines :lol:

When Kiwi always gives the third ball back, I didn't understand anyway why she (and other ball kids) made a few steps out towards him instead of just waiting on her position for the ball to come to her :shrug: Maybe they are taught this way, that they think it's faster, but I don't think so. Because Kiwi does not simply DROP the ball that it would keep sitting there, he more plays it with his racket into the corner.

And a few times I had to giggle a bit because I saw that she brought him the towel while Kiwi was standing with the back to her and/or just didn't need it, and was getting balls from the other corner. I thought she was very attentive :)

knight_ley
08-27-2008, 06:08 PM
:haha: great story! I saw that ball girl, but of course we didn't see that she was annoyed so much by some of his routines :lol:

When Kiwi always gives the third ball back, I didn't understand anyway why she (and other ball kids) made a few steps out towards him instead of just waiting on her position for the ball to come to her :shrug: Maybe they are taught this way, that they think it's faster, but I don't think so. Because Kiwi does not simply DROP the ball that it would keep sitting there, he more plays it with his racket into the corner.

And a few times I had to giggle a bit because I saw that she brought him the towel while Kiwi was standing with the back to her and/or just didn't need it, and was getting balls from the other corner. I thought she was very attentive :)

:haha: Yes. I think she thought he was doing that cuz he didn't like her or something cuz everytime she turned around then to run back she'd make a face. And every single time he gave her the towel back she'd roll her eyes. They were so funny together. I'm sad she left.


I forgot to mention too, that before the match, a kid brought ice packs out for Kiwi. I'm not sure if he used them during changeovers or anything because he was sitting on the other side of the chair ump, I couldn't see him when he was sitting down (which really sucked when he changed his shirt haha), so I don't know how often he used them.

knight_ley
08-31-2008, 04:49 AM
Hello?

Neely
08-31-2008, 05:35 PM
Hello?
yes? ;)

JMG
09-03-2008, 12:37 PM
Neely, when the coverage started at 6-4 0-3, did you notice that your friend Ralf Klinkenberg thought for about 5 minutes that Kiefer is leading 3-0? :retard: Then after Kiefer made the game and the scoreboard showed "1-3", Klinkenberg said something like "Oh, Minar was the one leading 3-0."

Neely
09-03-2008, 04:02 PM
Neely, when the coverage started at 6-4 0-3, did you notice that your friend Ralf Klinkenberg thought for about 5 minutes that Kiefer is leading 3-0? :retard: Then after Kiefer made the game and the scoreboard showed "1-3", Klinkenberg said something like "Oh, Minar was the one leading 3-0."
YES!!! That was classic again, he's just a legend! :lol:

Funny was also as he said: "Oh, Breakball Minar, da ist das Doppelbreak für Kiefer in Gefahr"

Especially it's funny that he thought the score was 3-0 for Kiefer for an entire game if you believe what the commentator of the previous match were telling us viewers that Klinkenberg had an eye on Kiefer's match :p

kiwifan
09-04-2008, 05:16 PM
hi,
My name is Sharon and I am new to the boards. I love Nicolas Kiefer and had the pleasure of seeing him practice a few weeks ago at the us open. He was a doll even giving my son his towel. I would love to hear from other fans!

knight_ley
09-05-2008, 01:17 AM
Hi Sharon! :wavey:
What day were you at USO?

I hope you have a great time here! We're all very nice. ;)

kiwifan
09-05-2008, 07:38 PM
Hi,
thank you for such a kind welcome!! I was at the open practice rounds from Tuesday through Saturday and got to see Nicolas every day!!!! I was dying to say something to him but I was too scared. My two sons are a lot braver than I am. He is even more handsome in person. I'd love to write him a letter but have no idea where to send it. Any suggestions?
thanks and be well,
Sharon